[#51834] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7780][Open] Marshal & YAML should deserialize only basic types by default. — "marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune)" <ruby-core@...>
[#51864] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7784][Open] [mingw] r39055 creates test failures and functionality loss — "jonforums (Jon Forums)" <redmine@...>
[#51870] [Backport93 - Backport #7786][Assigned] fix for abstract namespace — "shugo (Shugo Maeda)" <redmine@...>
[#51897] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7791][Open] Let symbols be garbage collected — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM, rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)
(2013/02/06 22:50), shyouhei (Shyouhei Urabe) wrote:
A slightly different idea, closer to the existing garbage collection:
I think Koichi's approach is a better one. I don't think there are any
(2013/02/07 20:25), Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:
[#51898] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7792][Open] Make symbols and strings the same thing — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>
On 8 February 2013 03:01, jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) <
Em 07-02-2013 19:15, Matthew Kerwin escreveu:
Hi,
Em 07-02-2013 21:58, Yukihiro Matsumoto escreveu:
You don't need to hijack any code for it, you'd just use it as
Em 06-02-2013 12:36, Yorick Peterse escreveu:
I don't think I'm following you, can you explain what's supposedly
Em 06-02-2013 13:25, Yorick Peterse escreveu:
> What I'm trying to say is that the main reason why symbols exist in
Em 06-02-2013 16:22, Yorick Peterse escreveu:
> And "growing until you hit your memory limit" is actually only valid
On 7 February 2013 20:46, rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas) wrote:
Em 07-02-2013 10:04, Matthew Kerwin escreveu:
On 7 February 2013 23:09, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:
On Feb 7, 2013, at 10:43, David MacMahon <[email protected]> =
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[#51965] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7795][Open] Symbol.defined? and/or to_existing_symbol — "Student (Nathan Zook)" <blogger@...>
[#51977] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7797][Open] Hash should be renamed to StrictHash and a new Hash should be created to behave like AS HashWithIndifferentAccess — "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>
[#52042] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7805][Open] ruby 2.0rc2 core on solaris — "groenveld@... (John Groenveld)" <groenveld@...>
[#52048] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7806][Open] inconsistency between Method#inspect and Method#name — "Hanmac (Hans Mackowiak)" <hanmac@...>
[#52073] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7815][Open] Backport: Warning about TracePoint events to 2.0.0 — "zzak (Zachary Scott)" <zachary@...>
[#52075] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7816][Open] Don't invalidate method caches when defining a new method on a class without subclasses — "charliesome (Charlie Somerville)" <charlie@...>
[#52077] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7817][Open] (Unable to compile Ruby 2.0.0-rc2 on OSX (clang version 2.1) — "injekt (Lee Jarvis)" <ljjarvis@...>
[#52087] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7820][Assigned] Let's decide Ruby 2.0 supported platform list — "mame (Yusuke Endoh)" <mame@...>
Dne 10.2.2013 13:01, mame (Yusuke Endoh) napsal(a):
[#52130] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7829][Open] Rounding error in Ruby Time — "loirotte (Philippe Dosch)" <loirotte@...>
2013/2/22 David MacMahon <[email protected]>:
2013/4/4 David MacMahon <[email protected]>:
2013/4/5 David MacMahon <[email protected]>:
[#52131] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7830][Open] Ruby packages should not build with -Werror when distributed — "kremenek (Ted Kremenek)" <kremenek@...>
[#52165] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7839][Open] Symbol.freeze_symbols — "tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson)" <aaron@...>
[#52206] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7842][Assigned] An alias of a "prepend"ed method skips the original method when calling super — "mame (Yusuke Endoh)" <mame@...>
[#52215] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7845][Open] Strip doesn't handle unicode space characters in ruby 1.9.2 & 1.9.3 (does in 1.9.1) — "timothyg56 (Timothy Garnett)" <timothyg@...>
[#52254] p385 breaks bakward compatibility — V咜 Ondruch <v.ondruch@...>
Hi,
[#52267] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7854][Open] New method Symbol[string] — "Student (Nathan Zook)" <blogger@...>
[#52371] Broken email notification from Redmine? — =?ISO-8859-2?Q?V=EDt_Ondruch?= <v.ondruch@...>
Hi,
[#52492] Redmine & utf in title bug — Marc-Andre Lafortune <ruby-core-mailing-list@...>
I notice a lot of
[#52495] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7879][Open] File.readable? fails when ruby runs as root — "balbi (Feliple Balbi)" <balbif@...>
[#52508] Should I document refinements in a PickAxe update? — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
Gentle core folk:
On Feb 18, 2013, at 19:58, Dave Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think a document in a PickAxe update with appropriate warnings would
2013/2/19 Dave Thomas <[email protected]>:
[#52581] Fwd: Fixnum: freeze status on ruby 2.0.0 rc2 — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...>
[#52596] [CommonRuby - Feature #7895][Open] Exception#backtrace_locations to go with Thread#backtrace_locations and Kernel#caller_locations — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>
(2013/02/21 6:02), headius (Charles Nutter) wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM, SASADA Koichi <[email protected]> wrote:
[#52701] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7914][Open] Case for local class methods — "trans (Thomas Sawyer)" <transfire@...>
[#52704] Feature Request w/ Patch: CSV::Row, adds ".each_pair" as an alias for ".each" — Ryan Dowell <ssstarduster@...>
A very simple patch. Adds ".each_pair" as an alias to ".each" in
[#52722] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7917][Open] Can't write to a Logger in a signal handler — "mperham (Mike Perham)" <mperham@...>
"mperham (Mike Perham)" <[email protected]> wrote:
[#52723] Improving order of NEWS — Marc-Andre Lafortune <ruby-core-mailing-list@...>
I feel the NEWS are in the wrong order: C API, builtin classes, std-lib,
[#52727] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7918][Open] Create Signal.in_trap?() — "kosaki (Motohiro KOSAKI)" <kosaki.motohiro@...>
(2013/02/23 11:31), kosaki (Motohiro KOSAKI) wrote:
[#52737] What's the *right* way to build Ruby from source on a Linux system that doesn't yet have Ruby? — Paul Sherwood <paul.sherwood@...>
We'd like to add Ruby support in a clean Linux environment which has
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Paul Sherwood
On 23/02/2013 13:16, Luis Lavena wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 13:16, Luis Lavena wrote:
[#52876] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7957][Open] rb_str_modify() does not prevent shared string from rb_str_set_len() — "normalperson (Eric Wong)" <normalperson@...>
[#52877] Any documentation about debugging in Ruby 2.0.0 — Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <rr.rosas@...>
Hi, I couldn't find how to debug Ruby 2.0.0 programs, but only a few
On Monday, February 25, 2013, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:
Em 25-02-2013 10:47, Jeremy Kemper escreveu:
(2013/02/26 0:22), Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:
(2013/02/26 2:34), SASADA Koichi wrote:
Em 26-02-2013 15:14, SASADA Koichi escreveu:
(2013/02/27 4:19), Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote:
Em 26-02-2013 17:23, SASADA Koichi escreveu:
I rewrite a debugger for Ruby 2.0.
Thank you very much, Koichi, but I couldn't get it to work yet:
[#52997] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7978][Open] boolean to_i — "alexeymuranov (Alexey Muranov)" <redmine@...>
[#53017] [ruby-trunk - Bug #7982][Open] rb_raise segfaults on %lli format with (0xffffffff + 1) — "erik.s.chang (Erik Chang)" <erik.s.chang@...>
[#53035] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7986][Open] Custom case statement comparison method — "trans (Thomas Sawyer)" <transfire@...>
[ruby-core:52004] [ruby-trunk - Feature #7792] Make symbols and strings the same thing
Issue #7792 has been updated by rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas).
I could see myself using "Map(a: 1, b: 2)" instead of "{a: 1, b: 2}" when I want HWIA. Sounds good to you? Should I create a ticket like this one?
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Feature #7792: Make symbols and strings the same thing
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/7792#change-36011
Author: rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)
Status: Rejected
Priority: Normal
Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Category: core
Target version: Next Major
Recently I had to replace several of my symbols to plain strings in my project. Here is what happened:
I generated some results with some class that would add items to an array like this:
results << {id: 1, name: 'abc'}
Then I would store such results in cache using Redis, encoded as a JSON string. But then when I restore the data from cache the hash will be {'id' => 1, 'name' => 'abc'}.
This wasn't a problem until recently because I never used the results directly in the same request before and would always use the value stored on Redis and parsed by JSON.
But recently I had to use the values directly in a view. But then I had a problem because I would have to use symbols in the results for the first time and strings the next times when the result was available on cache. I really don't want to care about memory management in Ruby if possible and symbols forces me to abandon the new sexy hash syntax many times. Now I have to write
results << {'id' => 1, 'name' => 'abc}
when I'd prefer to write
results << {id: 1, name: 'abc}
This is not the first time I had a bad user experience due to symbols being different from strings. And I'm not the only one or ActiveSupport Hash#with_indifferent_access wouldn't be so popular and Rails wouldn't use it all the time internally.
It is really bad when you have to constantly check how you store your keys in your hashes. Am I using symbols or strings as keys? If you use the wrong type on plain hashes you can find a bad time debugging your code. Or you could just use Hash#with_indifferent_access everywhere, thus reducing performance (I guess) and it is pretty inconvenient anyway.
Or if you're comparing the keys of your hash in some "each" closure you have to worry about it being a symbol or a string too.
Ruby is told to be programmers' friendly and it usually is. But symbols are certainly a big exception.
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