swore Fly calcustion& peleson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais ‘Welcome sharu. [Log out]| ‘Home Page » Forums » Analysis Solutions » CAESARII » Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio t My Stuff Calendar Active Topics Search FAQ New Reply| nixoni23 © Registered rzj0syo7 main ith erose Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio #14676 - 12/06/07 12:49 AM Can anybody tell me how poisson ratio is mathematically related with flexibiity calculation. If possible plz give reply with conventional formula Search 1 registered (Pox), 10 ‘Guests and 0 Spiders online, Key: Admin, Sioa! oe, Mod January Su M Tu WTh F Sa 1234 56789101 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 main Teh eross roo Toa \ Reply Quote \ Quick Reply. Quick Quote Notify © Email Post (Re: Ftexibitty calculation & polsson ratio (Re: nxon123 +4683 ~ 12/06/07 02:52 AM bom © ember [think tis not posible! Registered Mathematics for material sounds unrealistic. Powe! 205 te: ania Regards! Phippies om foo \ Reply Quote I Quick Reply |. Quick Quote 2 Notify FLEA Post pet Flexibility calculation & polsson ratio (ae: nam) 714692 - 12/06/07 05:53 AM Inixont23. © Member Ok can you give me the basic engineering formula relating the poisson ratio and egiteed flexiblity equation, Because in ASME B31. its mentioned poisson ratio of 0.3 can nepaere be considered for flebity calculation, so i want to know how flexbilty equation = Powe! Exalpha*L- (12-11) and poisson ratio ls used in stress analysis Where, alph = Coefficient of thermal expansion (mmn/mm deg C) E = Modulus of elasticity (Nmen*2) L= length (mm) ‘Reply Quote i Quick Reply :_Quick Quote Notify = Email Post | Forum Stats 19847 Members 13 Forums 32265 Topics 55420 Posts, Max online: 57 @ 12/06/09 11:14 AM Gi Re: Flexibitity Richard Ay Q Registered 12/13/93 Texas, USA” ree calculation & poisson ratio (Re: nixon1231 1914702 - 12/06/07 08:52 AM Poisson's ratio is not used in the equation to determine the thermal growth of a straight pipe (the equation you referenced above) Poisson's ratio is a termin some of the equations used in generating the element stiffness matrix. Poisson's ratio relates the elastic modulus of elasticity to the shearing modulus of elasticity. Find any text that discusses the stiffness matrix for ‘beam elements’ and youll have all the equations. Regards, Richard Ay Intergraph CAS INTERGRAPH’ ‘Reply *,Quote Quick Reply :.Quick Quote Notify © Email Post Gre: Flexibitity John Breen © calculation & poisson ratio (Re: Ricaré Av] #14710 - 12/06/07 10:47 AM Hello Nixon 23, fle: /Docunents%20and%s20Setings/SHARUNIMy#:20Documertdonnlcadslcondaexblliys20calculatlerts208%20paissonts20rabo%20-420Inergra.. 140swore Registered 93/05/00 Poste: 482 {ber Ptesburgh, PA (Texas) Fly calcustion& peleson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais ‘Actually, yours is a "very good question" as it motivates us ALL to think about "the basics" (something most of us are guilty of doing too infrequently). Understanding the fundamentals of beam theory is essential to becoming a competent piping engineer. While (whilst for our Land of Oz colleagues) the understanding of the response of straight beams is Important, It leads us to the more complicated study of curved sections of pipe and the inevitable torsional loadings, You may be interested in reading Dr. Hashem M. Maurad's 1999 thesis as he does @ fine job of reviewing the history and theoretical development flexiblity analysis before he get to "the meat” of his study. Actually most of us should read it again. Go here to the University of Michigan archive: www personal.umich.edu/~hmourad/PDF/MS_Thes's. pdf or just go here: hetp://www- personal.umich.ecu/~hmourad/ and find the thesis under the “The American University in Cairo" heading, Well if you want equations, they can be found. Of course poisson's (ratio of strains for a given material and a given stress) is related to the modulus of elasticity and all of that is shown by wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson%27s_ratio Regards, John -Eatted by John Breen (12/06/07 05:00 PM) (Coe! Not71 a3¢ main itn eross fle:tic/Docuerts%20and%20Seting s/SHARUNIMy?:20DocumertsdonnlcadsicondaFexblliy20calcultlers208%20peissont20rao%20-420nergra John Breen Tae \ Reply Quote \, Quick Reply :.Quick Quote Notify © Email Post (det Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio (xe: nixoni23) #14717 - 12/06/07 06:15 PM bom © Member Ofcourse yes... Poisson's Ratio can be use to calculate flexbilty but you need 2 enitered or the G to have the lit Registre "Se I want to know how flexbilty equation = E*alpha*L*(T2-T1) and polsson Posts! 20s is used in stress analysis." oe ar, Pippines Flexbiity is true, but thermal exoansion please read this one this will help you understand what poision’s ratio are about http://silver.neep.wisc.edu/~lakes/Poissonintro. html ‘Thanks Sir John for the link.. Me to need this kind of links for my study Regards! tte by bom (42/06/07 06:24 PM) Bom Tae ‘Reply Quote \, Quick Reply .Quick Quote Notify © Email Post (Ge: Flexibility calculation & polsson ratio (e: bom] #14805 ~ 12/12/07 08:27 AM nixon123 Q ember “Thank you friends for the kind reply egstered Friends i have another question? Repairs AAS per ASME 831.1 what is meant by “STRESS RANGE Ponts! 9 41) Why should be called as stress range? 2) We all know Thermal Exoansion Stress range equation as per ASME B31.1 210swore roo Fobliy calcusation& peeson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais Served from fundametals. 3)Why Sc is muttiaied with higher factor as "1.25" and Sh with lower factor as 0.25" Basically | need funda behind stress range equation very clearly, because itis the root of stress analysis without understanding it clearly it doesn't make sense as good piping engineer, so plz guide me with good explanation | Reply Quote Quick Reply |. Quick Quote Notify © Email Post le: Flexibility craigs © ember Registered os/16/06 Poste: 373 calculation & poisson ratio (Re: nixon123) 1914833 - 12/12/07 08:38 AM Search the forum here. This has been explained several times. The original theory goes back to Spielvoget's work in the 1950's, Basically, the sum of the multipliers Is 41,50 because the basic allowable stress for materials 's no greater than 2/3 yield, ‘And we deal in stress ranges because piping stress analysis is primarily a prediction of the fatigue life of a piping system, Tim sure John Breen has a 5000 word essay on this subject tucked away somewhere on this forum, He can exolain It much better than I can. [oer Romania cage Toe ‘Reply Quote \, Quick Reply :.Quick Quote Notify © Email Post Re: Flexibility calculation & polsson ratio (se: nixon123) #14097 - 12/12/07 09:58 AM marion © ember May I recommend you a book negutered Its "Piping Handbook" by Mohinder L. Nayyar, McGraw-Hill Professional; 7th edition Regitere 15BN-10: 0070471061, Poss! 998 Chapter 84 is “Stress Analysis of Piping Systems" and defintely isnt my favorte. The reason I recommend you this book is the availablity on market; you can buy it from Amazon, for example. In this book, you can find basics of the stress analysis (I'd like to say no more than acceptable” basics) as well the main Codes review formulas. You may find interesting that for restrained lines 831.4 counts the longitudinal compressive stress due to the combined effects of temperature rise and fluid pressure with a formula that include Poisson coefficient while other Codes don't Why? Because 831.4 deals with restrained lines, others no, ete fle: /Docunents20and¥20Setings/SHARUNIMy#:20Documentsdonnlcadsicondeexblliys20calulaterk208%20peissonts20rao%20-420nergra 10 a lotto lear and you must pay your personal effort. Success! Regards Teo ‘Reply Quote \, Quick Reply. Quick Quote 2 Notify FLEmal Post Re: Flexibility calculation & polsson ratio (Re: nxon123 114879 12/16/07 04:07 AM marion © Member Dear nixont23, Realsered 1t's not the primary purpose of forums to explain Codes formuls. More comron isto Powe! 908 give you references, Maybe i's alowed to make an exception today, A quite commron mistake in today (and yesterday...) engineering is to mix forrulas, concepts, Ideas, computer results, some knowledge and good intentions. Your question i’s a good example: you mix B31.1, a common value for Poisson coefficient, "flexibilty equation =" and a positive determination to leam by melting all in a stress analysis pot. Probably you are confused by a formula similar to one given by B31.4, paragraph 419.6.4 (b) "Restrained lines”. For those lines, the net longitudinal compressive stress is due to the combined effects of temperature rise and fluid pressure (and) shall be computed from the equation: SL=E*alpha*(T2-T1)- nu¥SH. Supposing this is the source of your confusion, please note that “nu” Is Polsson ratio and SH is the hoop stress due to fluid pressure. The formula must be applied only for "totally restrained lines", which means "zero a0swore Fly calcustion& pelsson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais longitudinal strain”. Zero longitudinal strain doesn’t meen zero longitudinal stress, Gespte 2 nawve and wrong idea of Hook law appled as proportionality everywhere ‘Ths stress status is characteristic to pipeline buried, far away from pig reps. ‘The term *-nu*SH' is due to pressure. I's not the place here to explain why the pressure term has this form Some authors are caling this term Poisson effect Congitudina shrinkage due to hoop strain). ObviousWy, a shrinkage effect exist; however for me ths termis not more than the tension done by pressure in zero longitudinal stain Insoftware resus , this value of lngitudinal stress "naturaly” appears when the Pipeline modal is well dane and extenced enough to have "zero longtudinal strain No connection between the above formula and piping ‘without substantial axial restrain under 831-4, 831.3, B31.1, ete Codes. Pay attention to tis aspect! Basically, for those lines, the behavior is fo transmt the thermal expansion to the adjacent legs, by bending them (for some cades also counting in 2 way" the fatigue due to cyclic loads) With the hope I helped you and excusing I get bored all the rest. Regards | \ Baply "Quote |. Quick Rep Quick Quote Notify Ema Post Re: Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio (Re: marioa) #14881 - 12/14/07 06:44 AM nixon123 Q egisteres aso Dear meriog, rence GetNetara ise | thank you for clearing my doubt excellently, this doubt came to me once i gone tain ith crass | through the book "Mohinder Nayar, but a& yau told missed to notice the 108 difference in codes (ASME 831.1 & ASME 831.4). Hereafter i will not post these type of questions in forumyexcuse me this time | \ Reply ~ Quote \. Quick Reply Quick Quote © Notfy Ema Post Re: Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio (Re: nixon 23) #14894 - 12/14/07 11:48 PM nixon123 Q hepeeved Dear friends Rgpistere What is meant by pressure stiffening and how it can be related technically with rons engineering equations? CoetNerart ase train horse | \flaply "Oust |. Quick Reply Quick Quote © Notify rLEmal Post '@ Re: Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio (Re: marioa} #14895 - 12/15/07 03:23 AM \Jozm © psmber orig Posted By: mariog B Dear nixoni23, Regiteret 1's not the primary purpose of forums to explain Codes formuls. I's not osjrer the place here to explain why the pressure term nas this form ise Garage more royalist than the king! Reqarts, savian | \aply "Quote |. Quick Repl Quick Quote © Notify rLEmal Post Re: Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio 2s: axon129) #14050 - 12/15/07 09:56 AM mariog © fle: /Docunerts%20and¥20Setings/SHARUNIMyéi:20Documertsdonnlcadslcondeexblliys20calculatlert4208%20paissonts20rao%:20-420Inergra.. 440sore Registered 3/25/07 Posts: 398 Coe! Romania Fly calcustion& peleson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais In my last 3 major projects I've been fighting with Clients (Contractors) that had the strong idea all B31.3 Code engineering is not more (and not less...) than the formula given by para. 304.1,2 "Straight Pipe Under Internal Pressure", Maybe this, explains the fight for that formula It’s good to have as target to minimize the piping thickness , to be competitive on market... but engineering is not only a formula, Anyway for my Clients the APPENDIX D and the notes enclosed within, especially note 1, were not more than “pure theory”... Maybe I was very lucky... ‘The point is...perhaps you are "the next generation’ since you try to discover (or reinvent?) more than one formula linked to the Codes. That's good! It's @ progress! But finally t’s really good you keep thinking. Answers for your question ~ to consider this effect in Caesar, search this forum and Caesar docs + as formula, see Appendix D "Flexbilty And Stress Intensification Factors" Note 7 -to see what's beyond the formula, see "Effect of Internal Pressure on Flexbilty and Stress- Intensification Factors of Curved Pipe or Welding Elbows", an article by Rodabaugh and George = wand if you lke mathematics, stucy the Appendix I of the article, with an elegant von Karman, Galerkin- Ritz method. BTW, what's next in your adventure? Some Stiffness Matrices techniques by hand? {Ber eresburgh, PA (@ Texas) fle:tlc/Docunents20and¥20Seting s/SHARUNIMy#i20DocumentsdonnlcadslcondeFexblliys20calulatlerts208%20peissonts20rao%20-420Inergra Regards, roo | Reply "Quote Quick Reply \_Quick Quote Notify [Email Post Re: Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio (Re: marica} 934901 - 12/15/07 12:43 PM John Breen © Memoer Hello again Nixon123, Registered * r Please learn to use the powerful "SEARCH" function that this discussion forum Powe! 82 provides. You wil ind that MANY of the questions that trouble you have been previously discussed here in detall. Judging from your questions you will have to do 2 lot of studying to "catch up” with the “basic concepts’ You cannot perform competent piping design and stress analysis unless you completely understand several basic concepts. You must totally understand the beam theory method of structural analysis. The B31 Codes for Pressure Piping are based upon beam theory methods. For piping flexibility analysis, stresses are calculated as the bending moment divided by the pipe section modulus (the general formis M / Z). IF the beam is other than 2 straight piece of pipe, a stress intensification factor (SIF - using the syrrbol "") is included making the equation for calculating the stress (or stress range) M * I / Z. The stress intensification factors that are appropriate for various piping components came from fatigue testing of various piping components and they can be found in appendices "D" in 831.1 and 831.3. To find the bases for the ASME B31 Pressure Piping Code SI's it would be good to read the Markl Papers that are found in the book "Piping Engineering” that was published by Tube Tums Company. The book can be found on the Internet [As per ASME 831.1 what is meant by “STRESS RANGE”? 41) Why it should be called as stress range? You must completely understand the difference between primary and secondary stresses and why the piping Codes evaluate these stresses differently. This leads airectly to the cancept of using "the total range for calculating secondary stress” and the Code allowable stress range. Please understand that in piping structural analysis, the concept of thermal expansion and contraction stresses (secondary stresses) is all about alternating loadings and the effect of fatigue. We consider tthe piping "as installed” at the ambient installation temperature to be "without expansion stress". When the piping contracts as the temperature falls from the “ambient installed temperature” (perhaps winter weather and out of service) to the coldest temperature, it will experience bending stresses results throughout the piping system. When the piping expands as the temperature increases from the “ambient installed temperature” to the highest operating temperature, i will experience bending stresses results throughout the piping system. The entire 50swore fle:tic/Docunents%20and¥s20Setings/SHARUNIMY#%:20Documertsdonnlcadslcondaexblliys20calculatlertk208%20pessonts2rato%20-420Inergra Fly calcustion& peleson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais RANGE of stresses from the coldest temperature to the hottest temperature must be considered and compared to the Code allowable stress range. Read this previous http: //wmw.coade, com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000057. htm ‘And maybe this one: htto://wmw.coade, com/udbthreads/ubt ea ..ch=tryesPost693 and bttou//www,coade,com/support_discussionasp 2) We all know Thermal Exgansion Stress range equation as per ASME B31.1: Sa = (1,25Sc + 0.25Sh),what Is the basis for this equation and how itis derived from fundametals. 3)Why Sc is multiaied with higher factor as “1.25” and Sh with lower factor as "0.25" ‘The equation that you cite: Sa =f * (1.25% Se +0.25 * Sh) IS NOT the equation for calculating the Thermal Expansion Stress Range. Rather it is the equation for calculating the Code allowable stress range. This equation for the “allowable” provides the stress range that you must compare to the calcul (by Caesar IP stress renge as given in paragraph 104.8.3 of 831.1 d SE=i* Me /Z Note that the expansion (or displacement) stress range, SE, must be less than (Sa +f* (Sh- Sh) ‘The expansion (displacement) stress RANGE, SE, that you calculate (and compare to Sa) is the range of stresses from the coldest temperature to the hottest temperature (e.g., consider a piping system that is installed at 70 degrees F - if the coldest temperature is 20 degrees F and the hottest temperature is 500 Gegrees F, the temperature range to be considered in the SE equation is 480 degrees F (70 to 20 = 50 plus 70 to S00 = 430, therefore the sum (range) Is 480, degrees F). ‘As T mentioned, you can find many of the answers that you seek here at this discussion forum simply by searching the archive of previous discussions, for example http://wmw.coade.com/udbthreads/ubbthrea., .h=trued#Post 1252 ‘Also, search and find the archive of COADE "Mechanical Engineering” newsletters because our esteemed colleague John Luf and many others (including our COADE board moderators) have written many articles for these newsletters that will help you to understand the “basic concepts’ ‘There are some good books available that may make your study easier: Process Piping: The Complete Guide to ASME B31.3. Second Edition. Charles Becht IV. ASME Press http://eatalog. aeme.ora/books/PrintBook/Process Piping Complete Guide.cfm ‘The Fourth edition of the CASTI Guidebook to ASME 831.3 - Process Piping ‘The authors are Giynn Woods and Roy Baguley. htto://www.casti cs/891 3h ‘A new book from ASME Press: Applying the ASME Codes: Plant Piping & Pressure Vessels (Mister Mech Mentor, Vol. 2) by Jemes A. Wingate http://eatalog. asme.ora/books/PrintBool/Applving Codes Plant Pioina.cfm a0swore Fly calcustion& peleson rai - lergragh CADWore& Anais [And this one: Piping Systems and Pipelines ASME Code Simplfied (Hardcover) by Philip Ellenberger http://www. amazon.com/Pressure- Vessels-ASME-Code- Sinplified/dp/0071436731 Be a good student, Regards, John Edited by John Breen (12/16/07 09:35 AM) John Breen Fran ‘Reply ".Quate Quick Reply -Quick Quote Notify r Email Post | Re: Flexibility calculation & poisson ratio [g: ohn Brasn} ‘#14908 - 12/16/07 12:26 AM nixon123 Registered Dear Friends 32/05/07 ‘Thank you for your suggestions, but i need to know whether the questions i am roo asking is right or wrong, whether i am going in the sight path or wrong path, whether my intention to learn about manual calcualtion behind code formulas is Tight or wrong. My ultimate goal is to become excellent piping engineer with fundas In tip. Just now i fished my one year professional Ife in piping am considering everybody as guru in this forumso plz tell your suggestions. |i Reply "Quote Quick Reply |. Quick Quote Notify [Email Post Gi Re: Flexibitity John Breen © Member Registered 03/03/00 Poste: 482 {ber ptesburgh, PA (a Texas) calculation & poisson ratio (Re: nixon123} 1714907 - 12/16/07 09:54 AM Nixon123, You wrote: | need to know whether the questions | am asking is right or wrong, whether | {am going in the right path or wrong path, whether my intention to leam about manual calculation behind code formulas fs right or wrong Some people posting above ARE answering your questions. You are also being asked to "do your homework’ and READ the material that is being suggested. There is no such thing as 2 trivial question in the engineering field but when you receive answers from those you ask itis your responsiblity to USE the suggestions ("do your homework'). With all due respect, if you have been working in piping engineering for one year and you (at this point) are asking questions about fundamental concepts, you have not learned much about piping engineering in your fone year (are your working under a senior engineer?). Now (for the sake of other People's safety) you must study harder - READ THE BOOKS!!! It took the mentors that post answers here many years of “doing their homework” to become competent piping engineers. There are no "shortcuts", YOU must also be willing to study the material that is being suggested to you, Read and reread the suggested material and THINK about the concepts. THIS 1S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Read this: http://www .eng-ti viewthread.cfmgid=1696208pa Respectfully, John. 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Not71 a3t main ith erase cost of snubber? (Re: C2108) #23330 - 12/20/08 06:32 AM Dear Friends Tquery regarding the occasional stress check as per ASME 831, 1Rev. 2007 a)Whether all the occasional loads such as seismic (both inertia, & seismic anchor moverrent), safety relief valve, steam harrrer, wing, should be clubbed together for occasional stress calculation ar accasional loads shoulé be done separately & check with allowable ‘ksh Code tells only wind & seismic need not to be considered together. But regarding other occasional | didn't found any details from code about to be clubbed or not to club all the occasional cases. Morever code tells that the occasional stress due to seismic anchor movement condition shall be added to thermal expansion stress range equation, What is you opinion & world wide practice for occasional stress check as per ASME 31.1 Rev.2007 Note: If iam clubbing all the occasional loads acting on the sare time, then the pipe is failing ‘Reply "Quote Quick Reply Quick Quote Natty "Email Post | Re:What is the John Breen Registered 05/05/00 oe! Pkisburgh, PA (@ Texas) Toe cost of snubber? (Re: nixont23} #23363 - 12/22/08 09:12 AM Nixoni23, PLEASE start a NEW THREAD when you have a NEW question that is not related to ‘the question in the original posting. This is the polite and respectful way when using discussion fora CraigB advised you to learn how to use the search facilty that is available in this discussion forum because your questions have been addressed in past discussions. Please heed Craig8's advice John John Breen | Reply ».Quote Quick Reply \. 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