MADS - Eenergy Crisis in Middle Age - Laura Frontiero
MADS - Eenergy Crisis in Middle Age - Laura Frontiero
hello and welcome to the world premiere of the Ageless energy Summit
mastering gut health sleep and hormones in midlife
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my name is Jason prw and along with Lowa fron we'll be your host over the
next 6 days where you'll discover some of the
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researchers doctors healers and Integrative Health experts on the planet I want
to take a moment to thank
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everyone involved for their tireless work that has gone into the production of
this event including the incredible
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speakers for donating their time and sharing their expertise and I want to thank
you for joining us and investing
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in your health and well-being now let's dive right into the first interview with
my co-host Laura frano
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Laura has spent her career focused on root cause medicine and I've primarily
focused on longevity and when you combine these two areas of focus can
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help people live well and live longer Laura is the founder and CEO of bior
radiant Health she has served thousands
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of patients in both the clinic and a virtual setting as a nurse practitioner over
the last 25 years her focus is to
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solve the root cause of chronic health conditions by supporting cellular energy
production gut health and detoxing the
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whole body her work in the health industry marries both traditional and
functional medicine and she's known by
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her community as the energy lady Laura welcome thank you so much Jason I
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pinched myself that we're actually doing this project together it is so good and
so relevant so important yeah it is such
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a good fit and and I remember when we first met um there was a a shared
kinship a shared uh like a spirit that
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that we both had um and so I'm I'm really excited to be to be partnering with
you and and I feel like we have
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the same mission in mind when we're working with our clients and and and
sharing the information that we do um
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and so this is this is such an exciting project to be working on with you and I
couldn't couldn't have picked a better partner to do it with so um today I want
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to focus on your story um in this interview and and really kind of why this this
mission was so important to
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you um and I'll first start with kind of the your your background and and when I
first met you I was a little bit
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um and why you made that transition out of that into a more functional
practice and and your own practice Yeah well
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there's a story there of course and I think it starts with the middle-aged woman
who is feeling energy is not what
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it used to be her brain is foggy she uh might have joint pain and headaches
and
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maybe she's collecting autoimmune disorders and pretty much her doctor
doesn't understand what's happening to
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her um I saw many of these women and Men quite frankly but it seems like we
see a
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lot of this in women M mid-age and Men it catches up a little bit later by mid
age I mean you know starting around age
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40 and Beyond and so um it really starts with with her because I saw her in
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clinic and I was never able to truly help her you know the what we used to tell
people or what I used to tell
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people what they still tell people in Western medicine is you know maybe you
should try an anti-depressant you know
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we've run all your Labs we've done all these tests we can't find anything wrong
with you we can't find a reason for the way that you're feeling we I mean
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obviously you have an anxiety issue and maybe you're bordering depression
and um I think you need some counseling and you
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know here's a medication for depression here's a medication for your bowel
irritable bowel symptoms here's a
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where you've got that flare up and you know get your cholesterol and blood
sugar and and and blood pressure checked
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every year and make sure get your wellwoman exam don't forget your
mammogram and we'll see you next year I mean kind of that's it right we we
can't
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we can't help beyond that and so and and ironically I worked in a I worked
primarily with mid-age women for at
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saw women just declining in their Vitality declining in their strength declining in
their confidence as they
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went through year by year you know literally shrinking in everything aspect
shrinking in their lives shrinking in
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their bodies shrinking and so um at some point Jason I really was really hit a
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happened when I stumbled on the gut microbiome this was nothing that was
taught in the western world and funny
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thing I was watching Summits very much like what we're producing right now
together and all those years ago if you
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would have told me that I would be a Serial Summit producer and you know
host many many Summits down the road I would
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have laughed because I was literally using them for Education when I was
learning about all by the by the way I
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was too so when I walked into functional uh Health this was one of the tools
that
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I use to um not to get necessarily like the the Deep um clinical background but
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it opened my mind to the reality of what was out there right so I I'm with you
like it was like a thing that I I
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consumed many of yes and and and and we're forever Learners right even to
this I'm still I still study with a
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mentor I still uh I still try to prove or disprove what I think I already know right
because that's what medicine
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best practice or is there something better is there a better way to help people
so um the ironic thing is at when
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clinic now fast forward you know all these years later two decades later and
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if you're a man it's a PSA right checking for prostate cancer um and really what
I want you to realize in in
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this is that it's actually not prevention to do a mamogram it's actually not
prevention to do a
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colonoscopy it's an early detection system yeah we're trying to find disease
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prevention is fueling the body with nutrients true prevention is stress reduction
and Trauma release I mean
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that's true prevention and we don't do any of that in the western world and so I
just find it so ironic that I thought
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I was practicing prevention I was very proud of the work I did and I did good
work and don't get me wrong there's a
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lot of there's a lot of support in the western medicine model for acute
conditions like the ER is great right
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we're just not very good at solving chronic health conditions so once I learned
about the gut microbiome and
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once I learned about functional medicine it's like you can't look back Jason you
can't turn back it's either I had two
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choices I could either keep going down the road I was on practicing early
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detection medicine and really not having solutions for people or I could make a
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complete 180 pivot and truly help people prevent chronic illness and
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reverse the conditions that they had gotten into and actually help people age
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well age better and do it for myself and my family too so once I made that
decision I was all in and I actually
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retired from the conventional world uh in 2022 I walked away I worked for
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Kaiser Permanente the biggest HMO in America um and and I retired right I I
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was 50 when I retired and um and I walked away from two-thirds of my pension
I had to leave it behind uh I
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mean that was huge right like that was a safety net working there tot and so
that was like a huge commitment for me like
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I'm gonna I'm gonna walk away from my security blanket and actually do this
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for the rest of my life because this Fel me up lights me up makes sense and
actually gets people results well and
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and that's one of those things that actually helps us age well right like that's
the things that when we have some purpose and passion and it can be
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and by the way you said you retire you retired at 50 which I'm sure some
people probably like did a double take like
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wait what she's she's 50 so this is the same reaction I had when I first met you
and and learned your age I'm not in the
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the practice of of asking women their age but um in this Cas I think I think it's I
think it's warranted because it
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is truly shocking please actually share your age because I think it's you act as
an inspiration for all of us men or
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women um that when we see people that are aging well um it it shows us it
gives us an example of what we can what
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how we can age better well I'll be 52 in in about four months wow so you look
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fantastic you really do thank you and I want everybody to feel and look
fantastic and so there is a way to
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achieve that and and I'm so glad you just mentioned me following my passion
is really important to me actually
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living a strong long life because if you're stuck in the trenches of doing
something that you e either either a
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decrease your lifespan yeah and and that goes for relationship ship too right
and which isn't to say we need to walk away from certain relationships but it's
a
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can this be repaired and and if so we need to make that a priority because if
we're stuck in this chaotic relationship
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that can um create a lot of health issues and I've seen it time and time again
with clients and same thing with
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these and saying do I want to fix this is it fixable and if so it is worth the
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energy and the focus to be able to do that or do we take the next step and say
okay I'm going to find a different
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relationship whether it's the personal relationships or whether it's the work
relationship absolutely so critical so
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when you walked into integrative functional medicine talk to me about that
because I know the transition I was
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well I did but but but only with the societal kind of Frameworks were I didn't
have a a classical training that I had to unlearn but you did you had a
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little bit of a a transition so talk to me about that what were kind of some of the
key understandings as you walked
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into functional medicine well U I'm glad that you framed the question like this
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because many many practitioners in the Natural Health space are actually just
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we're not relating it to the gut we're not relating it to what's happening in the
brain we're not relating it to um
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the immune system we're not connecting the dots yeah and so in the
functional space we kind of a lot of practitioners
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do the same thing where they say I'm a thyroid specialist or I'm a hormone
specialist or I'm an adrenal specialist
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um and really what I had to learn the hard way is that if you focus on
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all very important but if you start there in the functional medicine world
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to solving those problems it's going to be a long road for the patient they are
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going to have little improvements and then they're going to feel stuck and the
reason is because they're not getting
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underneath what's actually causing the hormone disregulation the thyroid dis
disregulation the blood sugar
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working with many many clients in the in my own functional practice and not
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helping them get the results that we quite had hoped for and sometimes even
making them feel worse and them
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literally running away from me I mean I can remember when I first started
working with gut protocols and I caused
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people to have herxheimer reactions because I didn't learn in my functional
medicine training how what needed to
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come before gut work in order to solve that problem and prevent it which I
know now of course but many practitioners do
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not know that and so there's a lot of the same patterns happening in the
natural medicine space unfortunately so
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this where people get better results if we don't focus on those things first if we
get down to the root cause so it was
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a journey Jason I didn't always get it right I didn't always make people feel
better and I will say my track record is
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much better now people feel a lot better when they work with me based on
what I learned but it took some trial and error
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and I'm just being honest about that any practitioner who's not being honest
about you know we work with a lot of people and figure it out as we go
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medicine is Art right like it'ss an evolving thing it's not a cookie cutter it's not
the same for every person you
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got to work with a lot of people until you figure out how to help people 100%
agree and you know we've it's
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interesting because that's really what the core of this Summit is really all about
right um the reason we came
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one that actually ties everything together so that people can have an
understanding really what's going on to
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give them solutions for the things they're actually dealing with right like that's
really the key and and we've got
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some thyroid Specialists and hormone specialists and you know that I've
interviewed already for the summit and
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and and what what's interesting is that they're they're bringing in a holistic
view so you know they those Specialists
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the the ones that are stay focused on the organ and don't have the ability or
haven't yet um learned to bring in these
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other systems right primarily the gut I would say um they're going to be stuck
like you mentioned and yet there's some
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out there that we've got that we've got included here that have a more well-
rounded uh Viewpoint and so that's
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really the the objective of this Summit it's really what I think makes this
Summit different um is the ability to
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connect the dots and provide the solutions for um the things that people are
suffering from right and you and you
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work with a lot of uh people in that middle age that is really and it it's the
classic symptoms right I've seen it
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time and again right it's low energy hormones are kind of a mess sleep tends to
be a mess gut function is just kind
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of all over the place digestion issues reacting to Foods you know some
autoimmune symptoms popping up chronic
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pain right hair skin and these are just kind of classic signs that things are kind
of falling apart and when when you
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work with somebody like that you know you you you start to realize okay
there's it's the millu that's that's out
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of balance right there's there's something that's just there's chaos happening
at the body level and it's not
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that's going to be systematic you know and and a process that we can carry
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through because that's really what it's all about right and for you I know gut
plays a central role in this in this
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process it does um one point I want to make just on something you just said is
you know we're bringing a lot of of
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singular topic experts onto this Summit because it's critically important that
once you solve the root of what's
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creating hormone thyroid blood sugar sleep like all these disregulation right it's
really important that you do work
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with a hormone specialist so you do with a thyroid specialist I always talk about
just like in Western medicine we create
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a team right so you've got your primary care doctor you've got your
dermatologist for women you've got your gynecologist for men um you you
know we
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see heart disease show up in men quite frequently so maybe you're working
with a cardiologist women too um maybe you're
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working with a urologist if you're a man because you've got some prostate you
know problems going on maybe the prostate is getting larger it's causing
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difficulty with urination so anyhow you get my drift you've got a team of people
well in the Western in the in the
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functional medicine space you also should have a team of people you should
have somebody that's working with you on
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root cause Solutions which we'll get into you should have a hormone specialist
you should work with a
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thyroid specialist you should work with somebody to help with stress and
Trauma release so you got to build your team
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based on what what works for you U and what makes sense for you and
sometimes you can get the hormone and thyroid
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specialist in the same person right in the same practitioner but I my patients all
the time come to me and they say can
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you prescribe my hormones I say no that's not my that's not actually my goal
with you my goal with you is to get
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underneath that and figure out what's causing the hormone disregulation in the
first place this is the zone of Genius that I love to live in so I have really
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that can be connected with them in that way and really support their hormone
Journey but not until they've done the
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foundational work so sorry to get back to your question I digressed there but I
think that was really important to set
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that framework like you got to have a team of people working with you and
we're hoping that you find those people when you listen to The Summit that
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somebody resonates with you and you think oh I want to work with that person
on hormones down the road or I want to work with that person on thyroid down
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the road or you know insert you know you know specialty that you're looking
for
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Cardiology I'm just thinking of the people we're bringing on to this Summit um
and and a lot of these people we're
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our own team to support you here absolutely and so what was your question
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yeah no it's okay I I'll work it in here because you have a great acronym that I
love that you've you you've coined mads
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middle-age deficiency syndrome and I love that because it describes this this
this problem um that that many people go
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through as we get into middle age um and I know the gut plays a central role in
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this process so so maybe talk to me how you came up with mads and and
really where where that's that came from yeah
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sugar metabolism all of this it's all important but there's actually a layer deeper
and becomes um it really comes
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down to a deficient state in the body so it's occurring in middle age it's
happening around age 40 and beyond for
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everybody it's different some people hit it at age 50 some people really hit it at
age 60 it all depends on you your
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genetics your lifestyle your your way of handling stress and Trauma and what's
happened in your lifetime so it's
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deficiency so let me explain what I mean by that and all the things you just we
just discussed Jason right it's food intolerances it's digestive symptoms
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it's low energy it's brain fogginess it's uh skin eruptions like eczema and
dermatitis it's migraine headaches it's
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it's all this cluster of mystery symptoms like what the heck is going on
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with me despite you know doing everything right and and you know a lot of
people just think oh it's menopause
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right and I'm no it's not or it's manpa or menopause whatever middle AG so
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what's the and real real quick I'm going to interrupt you there because what
happens I I've seen in this in this scenario where somebody's presenting
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with all these symptoms you know practitioners not all but some will try to just
find a acute
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diagnosis like there's that's the thing it's like we're trying to name this all these
variety of symptoms as if it's one
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thing that is causing the problem right and like that's and I understand why
because we it helps us grasp the issue
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so that we can tackle the issue right but the challenge is is that there's all
these discret symptoms and and yes
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they're related but not in the way that we can just name it right like that's the
problem so yes and so there's
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there's four root causes underneath this and we'll get that to that in in a
moment but the deficiencies you've got
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health deficit you've got a nervous system deficit so there is a deficiency in all
of these systems in the body
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enzyme reactions are deficient they're not working correctly so you have all
these deficiencies going on deficits and
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underneath that this is truly the Crux of what's going on underneath that are
four main problems number one is
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infections that can be anywhere in the body not just inside of the gut so we're
talking about pathogens like bacteria
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fungus parasites primarily viruses all of this um taxes and creates deficiency
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in the immune system in the mitochondria in the nervous system in all the
main systems in the body that regulate
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blood sugar thyroid hormone production that affects metabolism uh all of the
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problems that people are trying to solve we got to get underneath this so
infections the second thing is toxins
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and we have lots of people on this Summit talking about toxins and all of the
areas of toxins uh in the
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environment and the toxins that we're exposed to those toxins create
deficiencies in all those systems and I'll give you one
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really great example and it drives nutrient deficiencies which is my third point
so infections toxins nutrient
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bad farming practices people are eating more processed food or maybe they're
just in a rut not eating diversity um
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and not changing up their different food sources uh they're just eating the
same thing day after day or you know people
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are just eating the wrong things but I would argue that the toxins that are in
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our body are actually blocking nutrients from getting in and creating deficiency
so I want you to think of your cells
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like having doors and windows that open and close and think of toxins as uh
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boarding up the doors and windows they they actually block the ability of
nutrients to get into the cells and they
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and they block enzyme reactions from occurring the way they're supposed to
and so when tox TOS are in the body
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you're not going to absorb your nutrients so so again we've first three have
talked about are infections toxins
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we're getting polluted and there's bad farming practices and the soil is
depleted of minerals and all of that but
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it's a little deeper than that and then number four which is something you've
you know um dedicated a tremendous
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amount of your time and energy and career towards which is uh helping people
with stress and Trauma and um I
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can't wait until we get into me interviewing you on this Summit because I really
want to dig into your work around that but this is a really
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around the body middle-age deficiency syndrome um driving that is also stress
and Trauma so unless you're solving
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these four buckets you will be on a hamster wheel of forever adjusting your
hormones taking different doses of
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thyroid medication trying to solve your elevated hemoglobin A1c and blood
sugar disregulation being on a quest for
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fixing your adrenal fatigue right I say that with air quotes because well that's
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a whole another topic we get into on another talk but underneath it that's
where that's where
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I came up with middle-aged deficiency syndrome that's why I coined the term
because it's not just menopause it's not
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not just hormones it's just just thyroid it's not just blood sugar it's not just
adrenals it's much deeper and it's not just gut either I want to I want to I
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want to have our audience here loud and clear it's a very important strategic
move to fix the gut properly and we're
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going to need to unpack how to do that too but um that's only one part of the
picture I love it and and parasites also
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notoriously steal nutrients right like they actually so even if you're popping
nutrients uh via supplements like they
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can just rob you of those right yeah iron deficiency so people who have this
random iron deficiency they've had a
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absorbing iron and all of a sudden you know we finally discover oh you got
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parasites let's get rid of those they're eating your irons Ian and you know
what's what's interesting about about
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the Paradigm that you just shared the the the the four things that are causing
deficiency what I didn't here was your
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body is the problem your body's deficient you know there's something wrong
with you right so this is often
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the case when we are suffering from chronic illnesses especially for a long
period of time there's either an overt
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or or very CT way that we are blaming ourselves there's something wrong with
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me you know my thyroid doesn't work right um for me I had I had chronic pain
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for most of my life so there's something wrong with my knees right so there's
this self blame um game that can happen
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reason right it's because there's toxins because there's parasites it's because
there's metal there's these things that are happening so I just want to kind of
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lay that out there that I love your framework it's the exact framework although
I didn't give it such a clever name so you're much better at um at
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it's the same place that I ended up which is oh my gosh in in everybody that
I'm working with it's essentially the
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environment that they're in it's the things that are in and around them and that
the way that they're interacting with their environment the way that
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right the microbial environment right it's all that type of stuff it's the behavioral
interactive process of
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we're making the wrong decisions um and or straight up even if we're making
the best decisions we can we live in a very
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modified world and so we're building up of toxins and by the time we get to 40
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50 60 even if we've done a decent job over the last five or 10 years we've lived
most of our life acquiring
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accumulating and building up of these things that are creating the deficiencies
and while the body can
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the reality of of growing older that that we don't have the Vitality at 50
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that we did when we were five I mean I look at my four-year-old and it's just like
oh my God like I can just feel and
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see the Vitality right like we are just so vital at those young ages and so that's
the reality is that we get this
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accumulation and the body is just unable to keep up right and the bucket
overflows it's the classic uh metaphor
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but it is so true and so how do we get how do we unwind that process right
that's really what we're talking about
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here yeah I it's funny I look at my 19-year-old and I and I see the same thing I
see that that that Vitality that
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youthfulness that Rec we don't even know it when we're that young that's the
thing right and the recovery the speed
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with which she recovered so literally she had covid last week and and the
speed with which she
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recovered from that compared to what it took me to recover from that yeah
when I
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had it is like night and day yeah day and um yeah I do we watch our
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kids and think gosh I remember if I would have known then what I know now
the different choices I would have made
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right I mean I I I totally abused my body in my college and and you know a few
years after college right like the
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amount of drinking and partying and staying up late and eating just the just
horrible foods like and even prior to
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that when I was in in high school right I was an athlete and had I known better
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and I was able to uh make better choices again it's all out of ignorance right so
I'm not even really blaming or
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criticizing myself it's just wild to to um think about and to kind of recall the
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the abuse that I put on my body and there's there's absolutely no matter how
much how good I take care of my body
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today there's absolutely no way that I could do what I did back then and still
make it through the days like there's
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just no way Jason full true story full disclosure when I was in nursing school
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I would get up at 4:00 a.m. and go do drive an hour to the hospital do clinical
rotations go to class all day
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then go to work at the Mexican restaurant that I serve tables at drink probably
three or four Pepsis during
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that shift and eat a whole ton of Mexican food and then I would go to my
second job at a sports bar bartending
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drink while I was on the job and go to Taco Bell at 2: in the morning after I
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got off that shift eat and then go home sleep a couple of hours and rinse and
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repeat right and sleep maybe maybe 3 to 5 hours depending on what I had to
do
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the next day and I could sustain that and do it but I when I look back and
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think about my health back then I ended up having my tonsils out at age 21 I
had
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eczema I had uh I would say I would say I had brain fog it was very hard for me
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gain at that point in my life I mean I was not I look back all the signs were there
right but I had a full addiction
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to Taco Bell and Pepsi for sure for all my college Years yeah yeah so before we
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wrap up here I just I think what you laid out here is fantastic like this is the
point of this Summit this is what
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we're going to deliver is solutions for the core aspects of of the the things
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that are creating this middle-aged deficiency syndrome these things that are
creating um energy issues the things
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that are creating immune issues these these things that are creating the gut
and digestive issues all these symptoms
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that we're dealing with especially as we get into our middle age and Beyond
you know um we're going to get to the root
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cause of that and how to actually deal with that so um anything that I left out
before before we wrap up here Laura no I
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think this is a good first start here I'm glad that we went here and that we
discussed all of these topics on this first talk just I would say stay tuned
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listen in Jason and I have a lot more to unpack for you as this uh Summit goes
on
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make sure you catch as many of the interviews as you possibly can uh because
we have really curated our list
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of our favorite people super smart people people with Solutions people with a
holistic View and people who we trust
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and work with in the industry so we're really glad you're here and um yeah
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your health prior to this that you can recover and you can shift out of this and
you can turn back the hands of time
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and you can age with strength age with Vitality age with Vigor age powerfully
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and with Grace all at the same time yeah absolutely beautifully said and this is
a bit of a primer but we are focused on
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solutions for this Summit so stay tuned everyone um so excited to have you
here thank you Laura for for this first
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