Understanding, Measuring, Reducing Output Noise in DC - DC
Understanding, Measuring, Reducing Output Noise in DC - DC
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What are Power Modules?
LMZ31710 Safe
Operating Area
12Vin, 1.2Vout,
300kHz
LMZ12003
TPS82084 4.5-20V, 3A LMZM33602/3
6V, 2A TPS82140 LMZ35003
3-17V, 2A 4-36V, 2/3A 7-50V, 2.5A
LMZ20501/02
5.5V, 1A / 2A LMZ30602
6V, 2A TPS82150 TPSM84209 LMZ34202 LMZ36002
3-17V, 1A 4.5-28V, 2.5A
LMZ10501 4.5-42V, 2A 4.5-60V, 2A
5.5V, 1A TPS8268090/105/150
5.5V, 1.6A
LMZ21701/00 LMZ12001/2 LMZ14201/2/H
TPS82697/98 3-17V, 650mA / 1A 4.5-20V, 1A/2A 6-42V, 1/2A
4.8V, 800mA
LMZ10500 LMZ34002
TPS81256 5.5V, 0.65A TPSM84203 40V, 2A (Neg)
Boost, 400mA* 28V, 1.5A. T0220
TPS8267X LMZM23600/1
4.8V, 600mA* 4-36V, 0.5A/1A Coming Soon
TPS82695 TPS82740
4.35V, 500mA 5.5V, 0.2A
Vin max ≤ 6V 14V ≤ Vin max ≤ 20V 28V ≤ Vin max ≤ 60V
Detailed Agenda
• Understanding noise origin and measurement
– Noise origin, relevant parasitic elements, high frequency and low frequency components
– Measurement techniques and examples
– Noise reduction techniques
• Output noise filtering comparison
– 2nd Stage LC filters
• Passives parasitic elements and filter performance
• Design example
• Tradeoffs
– LDOs
• Filtering performance
• Design example
• Tradeoffs
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Understanding noise origin
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The ideal buck regulator
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More real buck regulator
V V V
T T T
VIN SW L
VOUT
LOAD
High
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COUT
CIN does not like SW
GND
“Free” components in red
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LF ripple origin • Result of the inductor ripple current
and output capacitor impedance
“LF” Ripple at Buck switching frequency
Lo iLo Io
SW VOUT
Iac ESR
iLo
Io
Co
ESL
Total LF Ripple = + +
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HF noise origin • Who is generating the noise?
– High di/dt current loop and any inductance in its path
– Noise appears on the SW node as ringing at each edge
V V V
T T T
VIN SW L
VOUT
LOAD
High
+
di/dt
loop
-
COUT
CIN
GND
“Free” components in red
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Measuring noise
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Measuring noise
• Before we explore ways/tools for reducing the output noise, let’s make sure we
are measuring it properly.
• Improper measurement techniques can results in exaggerated output noise.
• Exaggerated output noise measurements can result in overly conservative
“methods” for fixing it.
• It is important to know the “real” amount of noise before we start reducing it.
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BAD Measurement (example)
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Improved measurement (example)
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Comparison
~2x difference in measured noise!
~200mV pk-pk
The circuit is exactly the same.
The difference is the measurement technique.
~100mV pk-pk
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Using a 1X probe
1x Cleaner reading
probe Can zoom to 1mV/div for sub 1mV
measurements
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LF ripple reduction
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LF ripple reduction
How do we reduce this ripple?
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LF ripple mitigation
- Inductor
- Output capacitor
- Switching frequency
Ceramic
Tantalum
OSCON
Aluminum
electrolytic
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Filter Calculator with
LF ripple mitigation Equations
0.7mV/5V(0.014%)
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HF noise reduction
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HF noise reduction – component placement
• First step is to optimize (minimize) the area of the high di/dt loop.
• For Buck, the high di/dt loop is formed by the input capacitor and the power
MOSFETs (switches).
– Input capacitor as close as possible to IC = Smaller loop area
– Smaller loop area = Lower ringing on SW node
– Lower ringing on SW node = Lower output noise
• So first step = optimize input capacitor placement for Buck
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HF noise reduction – component placement
• For a Buck converter…
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High di/dt capacitor placement - example
• Buck Regulator comparison with CIN location
• 12V input, 3.3V output, 2A Buck
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75
70
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SW 18.1V
60
Cispr 22 Class A 3M
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max 50
Level in dBµV/m
Cispr 22 Class B3M
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40
44dBµV/m
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30
25
VOUT 20
75mVpp
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10
0
30M 50 60 80 100M 200 300 400 500 800 1G
Frequency in Hz
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High di/dt capacitor placement - example
• Buck Regulator comparison with CIN location (2 times smaller loop area)
• 12V input, 3.3V output, 2A Buck
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SW 14.5V
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Cispr 22 Class A 3M
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max 50
41dBµV/m
Level in dBµV/m
Cispr 22 Class B3M
45
40
VOUT 35
47mVpp
30
25
20
15
10
0
30M 50 60 80 100M
VOUT200 300 400 500 800 1G
VIN Frequency in Hz
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HF noise reduction – Power modules save layout troubles
• Reducing the high di/dt loop area – integrated input capacitance.
• Reducing the high dv/dt node area – integrated L and smaller switch node.
Discrete solution without optimized layout DC-DC Power Module
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IC package construction can help
• Bond wire vs Copper pillar interconnects
Standard wire bond QFN package ‘Hotrod’ flip chip on lead frame QFN
Wire Bond Silicon Die
Silicon Die Copper bump
Lead frame Solder
Board Lead frame
Board
“Hotrod”
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HF filtering
• After careful input capacitor placement and layout there will be some left over
high frequency noise – we cannot completely eliminate parasitic L and C.
HF Cap
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HF filtering – parasitic component and pitfalls
• Which one is better?
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HF filtering – parasitic component and pitfalls
SIMetrix schematic example:
10µF
10µF + 0.1µF + 0.1µF + 0.1µF
10µF + 1.0µF + 0.1µF + 0.01µF
parallel_capacitor_impedance.sxsch
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HF filtering with wrong capacitor (example)
76.2mV
85.7mV
64.4mV
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Filtering Techniques
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Filtering techniques comparison
• 2nd stage filter (L-C)
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2nd stage LC filter
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2nd stage filter parasitic elements
Ind_L
Cap_C
Ind_L
Ind_C Cap_ESL
(Ind SRF) Ind_C
Cap_ESL
Cap_C
(Cap SRF)
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Inductor tradeoffs: high frequency filtering and
SRF
• High frequency filtering
– The SRF of the inductor can affect the L-C filter performance at high frequency.
– May be better to choose smaller L and larger C if HF attenuation is desired.
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Example with 2nd stage filter using the LMZM23601EVM
Conditions:
• Vin =12V
• Vout = 3.3V
• Iout = 500mA
• 1X Scope probe
• BW set to 250MHz
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2nd stage output filter schematic
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Initial filter design (2.2uH + 44uF)
HF noise = 5.8mV
Calculated HF attenuation = 6.7dB
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Another filter design (1uH + 94uF)
HF noise = 5.4mV
Calculated HF attenuation = 7.7dB
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2nd stage filter tradeoffs (efficiency)
• Power dissipation penalty depends on the DCR of the inductor and the load current
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2nd stage filter tradeoffs (load regulation)
• Depends on whether the 2nd stage filter is inside the feedback loop
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2nd stage filter tradeoffs (LF attenuation at light load)
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2nd stage LC filter key takeaways
1. 2nd stage filter can help reduce both LF ripple and HF switching noise
2. If the switcher has power savings mode with lower switching frequency at light load, the
LC filter may need to be adjusted for the appropriate frequency
3. HF switching noise reduction highly depends on the filter parasitics
– May need to simulate and optimize filter design at HF ringing frequency
4. If LC filter is inside the FB loop
– Regulation penalty is avoided
– May need damping to avoid regulator stability issues
– Damping will affect the filter attenuation at HF so HF switching reduction may be affected
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LDO as a filter
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LDO as a filter
• Many low-noise applications utilize the PSRR (power supply rejection ratio) of
the LDO to “clean the supply”.
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LDO as a filter – example with LMZM23601 + TPS7A4701
• LMZM23601 is a 36V 1A power module • TPS7A4701 is a 36V 1A ultra low noise LDO
LMZM23601 + TPS7A4701 output noise
SWITCHER OUTPUT
LDO OUTPUT
• Measurement shows attenuation
of HF noise from 15.6mV to
6.4mV for a total of 7.6dB
attenuation
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LDO as a filter tradeoffs (efficiency)
• Additional power dissipation – need to give the LDO some Voltage headroom to regulate VOUT.
• The additional dissipated power is Voltage headroom x Load current
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LDO as a filter tradeoffs (BOM)
• At a minimum, the LDO requires 3 components (Cin, LDO, Cout)
• Additional components could be FB resistors, reference filter cap
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Filtering performance at light load
• Many switchers have power savings mode at light load with reduced switching frequency (e.g. PFM mode).
• The LC filter may not be adequate for filtering the PFM frequency.
No Load No Load
FPWM Mode PFM Mode
SWITCHER + LC Filter
SWITCHER + LC Filter
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LDO as a filter key takeaways
1. Can help reduce both LF ripple and HF switching noise
2. If the switcher has power savings mode with lower switching frequency at light load, the
LDO will still work well
3. HF switching noise reduction depends on the LDO PSRR at high frequency which
depends on the LDO output capacitor
4. Load regulation issues are mitigated with LDO
5. Tradeoff is additional power loss, BOM count, and board space.
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DAC adjustable low noise power supply
• Some test and measurement applications may require DAC adjustable and low noise
power rail
• If LDO is used to “clean up” the power rail and the switcher output voltage is DAC
adjustable, the voltage difference between the LDO input and output can be larger
• To avoid excessive power loss the switcher can be configured as a tracking pre-regulator.
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So, LDO or a 2nd stage filter?!
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So, LDO or a 2nd stage filter?!
• LC filters can be tricky at high frequency
– The designer needs to consider the parasitic elements of the capacitor and inductor
– Filter damping needs to be considered along with stability
– It may require lower BOM count than LDO but it depends how many capacitors are
used
• If power savings mode is employed, the LDO will definitely provide better
filtering
• In terms of design, the LDO is straight-forward
• LDO can always be followed by “high frequency” capacitors to clean up the
remaining switching noise.
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Summary
• Understanding the noise origin is important for noise mitigation
• The parasitic elements are usually the trouble makers
• Measuring noise properly can save us effort in trying to design filtering
solutions
• There are many noise reduction techniques (e.g. layout, stackup,
component placement, filtering, etc.)
• 2nd stage LC filters and LDOs can be used to “clean up” a noisy power
supply
• LDOs may be preferred based on the tradeoffs discussed
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References
• Design a Second-Stage Filter for Sensitive Applications
• Output Noise Filtering for DC/DC Power Modules
• Understanding, Measuring, and Reducing Output Noise in DC/DC Switching Regulators (Part 1)
• Understanding, Measuring, and Reducing Output Noise in DC/DC Switching Regulators (Part 2)
• You Think LDOs are Simple?
Any Questions?
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Conducted EMI filter and radiated EMI performance
Default
configuration
Input Filter
Calculator
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Inductor tradeoffs: high frequency filtering and
SRF – example in frequency domain
• High frequency filtering
– The SRF of the inductor can affect the L-C filter performance at high frequency.
– May be better to choose smaller L and larger C if HF attenuation is desired.
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2nd stage filter tradeoffs
• Ideal filter
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• Real filter
FILTERED
VIN SW L
VOUT VOUT
LOAD
High RDAMP
di/dt
CIN loop COUT
GND
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PSRR curve details
• Region 1 depends on:
– Internal reference and internal filtering
• Region 2 depends on:
– Open-loop gain of the LDO error amp
• Region 3 depends on:
– Parasitic capacitance across the pass device and the
LDO output cap size
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LMZM23601 + TPS7A4701 output noise in frequency domain
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Making a 1x probe (example)
• Short coax cable soldered
to the output
• 0.1µF coupling capacitor
• 50Ω termination
ter
m
• High pass filter with cutoff frequency
at 31.8kHz. OK for most modern
switchers with loaded output.
• Probe OK for 250MHz scope BW
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