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Former Dulce Base Security officer Thomas Edwin Castello provided insights into the construction and operations of the Dulce Base, suggesting it was established in the late 1930s and expanded through advanced tunneling technologies. He described the presence of various alien entities, including reptilian humanoids, and the existence of extensive underground networks across the U.S. Castello also mentioned the controversial use of cattle and human organs in experiments, and the complex relationships between human workers and alien species at the base.

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Former Dulce Base Security officer Thomas Edwin Castello provided insights into the construction and operations of the Dulce Base, suggesting it was established in the late 1930s and expanded through advanced tunneling technologies. He described the presence of various alien entities, including reptilian humanoids, and the existence of extensive underground networks across the U.S. Castello also mentioned the controversial use of cattle and human organs in experiments, and the complex relationships between human workers and alien species at the base.

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A DULCE BASE SECURITY OFFICER SPEAKS OUT

The following is a list of questions that were directed to former Dulce Base Security officer
Thomas Edwin Castello approximately a year before his death [or disappearance]. They are followed
by his responses:

QUESTION - When exactly was the [upper human-occupied level of the] Archuleta installation
constructed?

ANSWER - I heard Dulce was started in 1937-38 by the Army engineers, enlarged over the years, most
recent work was completed 1965-66 to connect tunnels to the Page [Arizona] Base, site of one of the
older underground facilities. The four corners base is called PERICA. Most of the Native Americans
[the Indians] living in that area are aware of that base, and could tell us about the underground
life forms that frequently are spotted near those communities, Bigfoot, etc. (Note: The references
to the Dulce base here deal mainly with the upper levels, not the extreme lower levels which
include vast natural caverns and, some believe, very ancient tunnel systems as well. This would
include the tunnels illuminated by phosphorus pentoxide which the alien grays avoid, and the origin
of which is unknown. In fact sources have informed us that some of the underground NORAD facilities
of Colorado were constructed within already-existing cavern systems, suggesting that Ray Palmer and
Richard Shaver were correct when as early as the mid-1940's they wrote about the government's
search for ancient underground cave and tunnel systems to be converted for their own use. -
Branton)

Q -- By what means was the [upper] installations constructed? Are you familiar with the alleged
developments made by the Rand Corporation of a highly-efficient bore or mole machine capable of
melting rock using nuclear powered wolfram-graphite tipped 'drill-cones'?

A -- According to several senior maintenance workers, part of it was blasted by nuclear devices in
the sixties. There are sections, like the shuttle tunnels, that were formed by an advanced
tunneling machine that leaves the tunnel walls smooth. The finished walls in those tubes resemble
polished black glass.

Q -- By WHOM was the Dulce installation originally constructed?

A -- Nature started the caverns. The Draco [reptilian humanoids] used the caverns and tunnels for
centuries. Later, through RAND Corporation plans, it was enlarged repeatedly. The original caverns
included ice caves and sulfur springs that the 'aliens' found perfect for their needs. The Dulce
caverns rival Carlsbad caverns in size. (Note: Carlsbad caverns and especially the adjacent
Lecheguilla caves are 'officially' among the largest and deepest in the world, with several 'leads'
that remain to be explored by professional speleonauts - Branton)

Q -- What exactly are the cattle [and human] organs such as blood, anal tissue, eyes, reproductive
organs, tongues, etc. used for -- i.e. the organs obtained via cattle and human mutilations?

A -- Read the so-called Dulce papers [for more information].

Q -- Are the various electromagnetically-controlled air or space craft -- [that have been seen]
leaving from and arriving at Mt. Archuleta -- manned by humans, the 'alien entities', or both?

A -- Archuleta Mesa is a minor area... the craft leave [and are stored] in five areas. One is SE of
DULCE, one near Durango Co., one at Taos, N. M., and the main fleet is stored at LOS ALAMOS
[under]. (Note: I believe Thomas Castello is referring to the 'joint-operational' fleet. From
combined sources however it appears as if Dulce is absolutely SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES by 'alien'
bases, and that Archuleta peak -- although apparently the central NEXUS of the entire underground
network -- is nevertheless just one part of an overall complex that some claim is nearly the size
of Manhattan! One source has indicated that there are chambers a few hundred feet below the very
town of Dulce itself that are part of level one of the facility. This close proximity may explain
why it has usually been described as the 'Dulce Base'. Apparently even with his high-security
clearance, Thomas Castello was only familiar with one part of the overall mega-complex which
underlies the area. Whatever amount of activity is taking place there, different sources seem to
indicate that the town of Dulce nevertheless lies over a major crossroads, convergence or
'intersection' area of alien activity even though the 'core' of alien activity has been extended to
Los Alamos. Los Alamos and the mountainous regions east and southeast of it in and around the Santa
Fe National Forest seem to be the MAJOR 'nest' of Reptiloid/Gray forces in North America, although
there is also a large number of 'dens' scattered throughout the underground networks between Dulce
and Area 51. Dulce seems to be a major 'through' point for exterran and subterran reptilian
activity, a central 'infiltration' zone for surface operatives, as well as an operational base for
abduction-implantation-mutilation agendas and also a major convergence for sub-shuttle terminals,
UFO ports, and so on. - Branton)

Q -- Others have suggested that some of the entities below Dulce are not of 'extraterrestrial'
ORIGIN, and that they are actually descended from saurian or reptiloid beings such as the
Velociraptors or Stenonychosaurus Equallus -- a 'serpentine' race or races similar to that hinted
at in the third chapter of the book of Genesis?

A -- Yes, some 'reptoids' are native to this planet. The ruling caste of 'aliens' ARE reptilian.
The beige or white beings are called The Draco. Other reptilian beings are green, and some are
brown. They were an ancient race on Earth, living underground. It may have been one of the
Draconian beings that 'tempted' Eve in the Garden of Eden. Reptoids rightly consider themselves
"native Terrans." Perhaps they are the ones we call the Fallen Angels. Maybe not, either way, we
are [considered] the 'squatters' on Earth.

Q -- Some have suggested that the so-called underground 'E.T.' bases and tunnels may, for a large
part, be literally thousands of years old... constructions of an antediluvian race which attained
to a considerable level of scientific complexity, and who were destroyed by a Divinely-initiated
cataclysm which took place after they attempted to merge their science with occult/supernatural
forces. For instance some have suggested that the Bermuda Triangle phenomena may be the result of
an out-of-control Atlantean experiment that led to a space-time disaster which produced
"electromagnetic fallout" in the Triangle area and elsewhere after they had accidentally loosed
powerful forces and energies into the world that they knew very little about. Do your observations
tend to confirm or refute such a possibility?

A -- I'm not sure about the Divine part, but these 'aliens' consider themselves 'NATIVE TERRANS.'

A -- Where do the little gray Aliens fit in?

Q -- They work for, and are controlled by the Draco. There are other gray skinned beings that are
not in league with the Draco.

Q -- Did you ever talk to any of the 'Aliens' at the Base?

A -- Since I was the Senior Security Technician at that base, I had to communicate with them on a
daily basis. If there were any problems that involved security or video camera's, I was the one
they called. It was the reptilian "working caste" that usually did the physical labor in the lower
levels at Dulce. Decisions involving that caste were usually made by the white Draco. When human
workers caused problems for the working caste, the reptoids went to the white Draconian 'boss', and
the Draco called me. At times, it felt like it was a never ending problem. Several human workers
resented the "no nonsense" or "get back to work" attitude the working caste lives by. When needed,
intervention became a vital tool. The biggest problem were human workers who foolishly wandered
around near the "OFF LIMITS" areas of the "Alien Section." I guess it's human nature to be curious
and to wonder what is past the barriers. Too often someone found a way to bypass the barriers and
nosed around. The camera's near the entrance usually stopped them before they got themselves in
serious trouble. A few times I had to formerly request the return of a human worker.

Q -- Are there other sites tied-in to the 'shuttle network' other than those which you mentioned,
and if so, where are the entrances?

A -- WHERE!?! EVERYWHERE! THEY CRISS CROSS THE WORLD AS AN ENDLESS SUBTERRANEAN HIGHWAY. LIKE A
FREEWAY, EXCEPT THIS ONE IS UNDERGROUND... The subterranean highway in America is like a freeway
except it's underground. That highway depends on electric motors [for trucks, cars and buses] for
the paved roads, and it is for limited travel. There is another style of transit for freight and
for passengers that is for rapid travel. That world wide network is called the "Sub-Global System."
It has "check points" at each country entry. There ARE shuttle tubes that 'shoot' the trains at
incredible speeds using a mag-lev and vacuum method. They travel at a speed that excels the speed
of sound. Part of your question involves the location of entrances to that base. The easiest way to
answer is to say every state in the U.S.A. has them. Frequently, the entrances are camouflaged as
sand quarries, or mining operations. Other complex portals are found on military bases. New Mexico
and Arizona have the largest amounts of entrances followed by California, Montana, Idaho, Colorado,
Pennsylvania, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri. Of all the state's Florida and North Dakota have the
least amount of entrances. Wyoming has a road that opens directly into the subterranean freeway.
That road is no longer in use, but could be reactivated if they decide to do so, with minimal cost.
It's located near Brooks Lake.

Q -- Are there any 'bases' in the state of Utah? (Note: Thomas mentioned several areas surrounding
Utah -- Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and Idaho, where there are 'connections', but little
on Utah which according to some sources lies directly over one of the largest NATURAL cavern
systems in North America, one that is said to reach deep beneath the Western Rockies as well as
beneath the Bonneville basin) Have you heard anything about an alleged underground installation
within the Wasatch Mountains...?

A -- Salt Lake, Lake Powell Area, Dark Canyon, Dougway Grounds, Modena, Vernal. All have exits
there. Others too.

(Note: There have been many rumors of ancient 'tunnel' systems being intersected during the
excavations of sub-basement levels below major industrial and mall areas in downtown Salt Lake
City. Various stories surrounding these tunnels include: explorers who have entered the tunnels and
never returned; reports of 'lizard people' down in the labyrinths; reports of grays working with
humans on electronic equipment and massive building projects going on in huge caverns beneath the
mountains to the east; reports of humans who are part of an Asian-based 'Agharti' kingdom who
maintain colonies within the tunnels and caverns below -- and who are in conflict with the
reptiloids, grays, and a group collaborating human fascists from a network of massive underground
facilities beneath the Neu Shwabenland region of Antarctica; reports of men in suits having been
seen pacing back and forth through large underground chambers carrying uzi machine guns; reports of
seemingly bottomless shafts; large tunnels strung with lights that are "big enough to drive a semi-
truck through"; sections of tunnel walls that looked solid yet which one could put their hands
through; rooms which emanate a strange greenish phosphorescent glow; abductees who are taken below
and encounter all types of aliens; discs that have been seen emerging from the mountains to the
east and attacking incoming UFOs over the valley; Dungeons & Dragons fanatics who have been down in
the tunnels and tell wild stories of hundreds of miles of maze-like passages; reports of
connections to the tunnel systems via the sewer-drainage network especially underneath the downtown
"Crossroads" area; reports of alien activity similar to that which has been described in connection
to Dulce New Mexico; and reports of a huge cavern network that reaches beyond the border of the
state in all directions -- a huge network that connects the underground systems of Nevada with
those of New Mexico. There is a famous story which is not openly talked about -- there are two
versions... both may be true. In one version a Mormon Temple worker penetrated an underground
tunnel below the 'square' in downtown Salt Lake City and traveled for some distance through a
series of underground catacombs until running into a 'lizard' like man. The creature attempted to
attack him but the man escaped and managed to find his way back to the surface. He began telling
other people what had happened and soon afterwards the 'government' arrived in the area and went in
and closed off many of the tunnels leading to the sub-basements of the Temple. Presumably there was
some heated debates over how much of the underground system this denomination was allowed to
control. A similar dispute apparently occurred to the southwest where the LDS church maintained a
large storage facility under Granite Mountain in Little Cottonwood canyon, within the upper levels
of a vast network of caverns. Fascist CIA elements and the Grays came in and took control of the
larger caverns deeper within the mountain and ordered the 'vault' workers to stay out of the
'forbidden' areas -- and stated that the "U.S. Government" was now using them for "National
Security" purposes and that it was their "patriotic duty" to maintain the secret. The other version
concerned a custodian who entered a tunnel near the cinemas area below the Crossroads Mall across
the street and to the south from the temple square, while excavation was being carried out in a
that part of the Mall. The worker entered the tunnel and before long encountered a 'serpent' type
man, beat a hasty retreat, and told his fellow workers what he had seen. The FBI and/or the local
police soon arrived and sealed the tunnel. Another story involved a young man who, along with a
friend, had used a chain tied to his pickup truck to rip-up a manhole cover in the area near the
'Mall' and the 'Square'. They navigated through a maze of sewer passages underneath and came to a
shaft that descended in a series of 5 small 'rooms' one below the other, and from the bottom room a
tunnel led south into a large chamber wherein they saw a seemingly bottomless shaft, a large
southwest tunnel strung with lights and 'large enough to drive a semi through', and the footprints
of some type of three-toed bi-pedal creature. Other sources imply that early pioneers and settlers
of the area who explored these tunnels came in contact with and in some cases even joined with some
of the Telosian-Agharti-Melchizedek-Mayan underground colonies below the Salt Lake Flats, the Salt
Lake Valley and the Western Rockies. These subterraneans had formerly established territorial
agreements with the Reptiloids and Grays before the aliens begun invading their subterranean lands
below the intermountain west en-masse in the early 1900's. The treaties were part of an attempt to
stave off a possible inter-species conflict, as skirmishes between the humanoids [Teros] and
reptiloids [Deros] within the cavern networks of North America had been increasing since the
1920's, 30's and 40's. Because of a somewhat non-exclusive collective-mind with which these humans
interacted, it was decided that one possible way to 'convert' the reptilians into becoming beings
of emotion and compassion was to allow them access to the group consciousness. The reptiloids
however, once given access, immediately began taking advantage of the collective and used it to
CONTROL the humans on a subliminal basis. The ease with which this occurred may have been enhanced
by the fact that the Reptiloids and Grays were already operating as part of a collective or group
mind, one which was far more complex than the Ashtar or Astarte collective itself which many of the
'Aghartians' depended on. This suggests that the reptilian 'collective' or HIVE itself is
absolutely void of any and all care, concern or compassion for human beings. Individual reptiloids
operating distinct from the draconian collective might however be 'tamed' by other collective-free
humanoids in some cases -- as some have reportedly been 'tamed' by the Andro-Pleiadean worlds. If
the non-humans could be severed from the 'collective' they might be deprogrammed and reprogrammed
so-to-speak and even attain individual awareness and a degree of emotionalism. In such cases it
would not be advisable to give these creatures equal standing among humans, and absolute
subservience and monitoring should be enforced even if means were found to sever them from the
collective mind network. When dealing with the reptilian forces, unconditional surrender should be
first offered, and if this is not accepted than direct military action would be justified
especially in light of the many permanent 'abductees' whom the Greys and Reptiloids have taken
captive [those who are still alive] to their underground systems. Most of the treaties that the
humanoids had made with the reptiloids 'down under' have since been broken... especially following
the Groom Wars of 1975 and the Dulce Wars of 1979, during which time much of the underground U.S.
base networks [which were funded by American tax dollars by the way] were taken over by the Grays.
Some sources have implied that the aliens took advantage of the chaos especially during the Dulce
wars and commenced to invade and conquer several of the older underground colonies. This apparently
led to a rift in the 'Ashtar' collective, with many humanoids and hybrids splitting off and joining
with the Andro-Pleiadean Federation non-interventionists, and many reptiloids and heartless
humanoid agents splitting off and joining with the interventionists of the Draco-Orion Empire. The
Sirius-B system which -- aside from Arcturus and Sol -- has been the major center of 'Ashtar'
activity, has since been shaken by this split between the two opposing Ashtarian factions and war
had reportedly raged through the Sirius system for several years, according to some 'contactees'...
an apparent reflection of the division within the underground networks of North America between the
Pleiadean-backed Sirian humanoids and Orion-backed Sirian reptiloids which both had maintained
operations within the underground levels before the "Dulce Wars" broke out. The Dulce wars were
just the mere tip of the proverbial iceberg when we consider that the overall events which happened
at Dulce had a chain reaction effect throughout this whole sector of not the galaxy. Before the
division occurred, the reptiloids were invited to take part in 'peace talks' in Telos and elsewhere
as an act of good faith, but the reptiloid-grey collectivists were more interested in expanding
their empire and feeding their insatiable appetite for conquest than they were in making peace,
although they agreed to peace treaties that they never intended to keep for 'Trojan horse'
manipulation purposes. There is a remnant collaboration such as that taking place in the
underground facilities near Paradox Nevada where collectivist humanoids and reptiloids from Sirius
and Sol still maintain a collaboration of necessity -- in order to establish a global control
system, however a large number of humanoids within the underground systems are at war with the
collectivist-interventionist Reptilian infiltrators who would otherwise 'assimilate' these
humanoids into their collective through deception, espionage and mind control. Now several
contactees like Alex Collier, Ray Keller, Stan Johnson and others are claiming that the conflicts
in Sirius between the Andro-Pleiadean backed Ashtar forces and the Draco-Orion backed Ashtar forces
-- which were infiltrated and commandeered by Draco-Orion agents -- have now spread to the Sol
system, as both stellar superpowers have focused on this most strategic system, intent on
protecting their respective 'interests' here from being subverted by the other side. - Branton)

Q -- Does the Mt. Archuleta "shuttle system" connect with a shuttle system which allegedly radiates
from Mt. Shasta in northern California?

A -- Yes. Mt. Shasta is a major site of Alien - Elder Race - Reptilian Race - Human meetings.
Beginning Cleveland, Grover every president in U.S. history have visited Telos City. Truman was
supposed to have visited the Lower Realms as a High Archon on Earth. He was supposed to have met
the King of the World there, and gave him the "Keys to the U.S.A." (Note: Whether or not the
reigning 'King' of the Agharti realms at the time had benevolent or other motives, subjecting
America to an outside super-power without Congressional consent would be considered high treason.
Although unelected/appointed 'individuals' working within the Executive-Military-Industrial branch
of 'government' might choose to do so of their own volition without Congressional or Senatorial
consent, such an act cannot apply to the 'America' which is based on the Declaration of
Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. There are apparently two 'nations'
occupying the United States, the traditional grass-roots 'America' established by the founding
fathers and led by the 'Electorate' government, and the fascist Bavarian-lodge-backed 'underground
nation' led by the 'Corporate' government which is contesting the original 'America' on its own
soil. Some predict an inevitable civil [?] war between the Electorate/Constitutional/Surface
government of the U.S., and the joint humanoid-reptiloid Corporate/National-Global
Socialist/Underground New World Order government, which incidentally was bought and paid for by
American taxpayers and other unsavory money-making projects. This war will apparently provoke an
armed United Nations / New World Order invasion of the U.S.A. which, according to George
Washington's famous 'vision' at valley forge in 1777, will ultimately end with an American victory
as a result of Divine Intervention. Something like this may be inevitable if FREEDOM is to be
preserved on this world, and beyond. We should never forget however that the NWO corporate elite
and their draconian masters intend to 'depopulate' the surface of this planet AND the underground
systems as well. According to one Navy intelligence source the 33-plus Masons [there are allegedly
several degrees above the 33rd degree which interact directly with the draconians and are part of
the interplanetary initiatory lodges] intend to set the left-wing caverns and the right-wing
caverns against each other in order to depopulate the underground realms so that they can impose
absolute Bavarian-Draconian global control of 'both' worlds. The 33+ and higher degrees according
to this source intend to ride out the inferno in super-secret fortified caverns while the 33rd and
lower degree masons and their respective left-wing and right-wing armies will be left to die in the
surface and subsurface wars. It may be that some of the 33+ Masons intend to ride-out the holocaust
in their Alternative-3 bases on the Moon and Mars, IF those bases are still active. Remember, the
roots of BOTH the 'right-wing' National Socialist AND the 'left-wing' Global socialist agendas
trace back to Bavaria. Isn't it interesting that the legendary 'dragon' has TWO 'wings' -- a right
wing and a left wing -- both of which are controlled by a single 'beast'?. In essence, when it
comes right down to it the war is between the Judeo-Christian based Constitutional Republic of
America and the Luciferian-cult-based Socialist empire of Bavaria. Both the right and left wing
movements are Machiavellian extremes created by the Bavarian Black Nobility ['Black' here being a
reference to something hidden that cannot be seen, and NOT skin color] in order to foment global
chaos. There are several claims that the collaboration with the Reptilians began with the
Luciferian cults of Bavaria, and was later brought into America via the infiltration of the
Scottish Rite and the fascist core of the NSA-CIA. There may have nevertheless been a reptilian
presence below North America within the caverns that dates back several centuries, however a
MASSIVE reptilian infestation of these underground systems seems to have begun near the beginning
of the 20th century. 'Mt. Archuleta' might be considered the 'capital' of the ALIEN segment of the
'secret' [Bavarian-Draconian] New World Order government in America -- with the deep underground
systems beneath the Denver International Airport being the 'capital' of the HUMAN segment of the
secret government. - Branton). Truman received assurance to new high tech knowledge, and victory
over all enemies on Earth. He then was introduced to Samaza and Khoach, aliens from Bootes and
Tiphon [Draco], both reptilian 'kings' or Embassadors. Truman updated the '100 Treaty' [that began
IN 1933, Roosevelt] and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed,
Samaza partially agreed. He exchanged hostages for genetic experiments and magnetic advance, but
vetoed space and beam weaponry.

Q -- Did you notice any involvement of high-level Freemasons, Rosicrucians or Jesuits within the
underground installation and/or with the aliens? (This question is based on the assumption made by
some researchers that many of the Masonic lodges were, beginning about 1776, infiltrated by the
Bavarian Illuminati. Much of the Masonic world is ultimately controlled by the Bavarian-lodge-
backed 33+ degrees of Scottish Rite Masonry, a 'Rite' which according to early Masonic authority
Rebold can be traced back to the JESUIT college at Clermont in Paris -- a Rite which advocates the
destruction of national sovereignties in exchange for world government, the destruction of
religious and especially Judeo-Christian movements, and the destruction of the family-structure to
be replaced by 'State' control of children, etc., as opposed to the more traditional Protestant-
Christianized YORK RITE of Masonry which the SCOTTISH RITE has attempted to subvert since its
inception into Masonry. This question was also based on claims from a former 33rd degree Mason,
James Shaw, that the Scottish Rite headquarters in the "House of the Temple" -- which lies at the
northern apex of the pentagram-like street layout of Washington D.C. -- is filled with all kinds of
indications of serpent worship in the form of murals, carvings, statues, etc., depicting serpentine
figures. Actually, from what my sources tell me, not only are there degrees beyond the 33rd degree,
but the 33rd degree itself is made up of two cores, an inner and outer core, the 33rd degree and
the 33+ degree. In the past when the 33rd degree initiation was reached a potential initiate might
have been given a Bible or a Cross and asked to spit on it or desacrate it in some manner. If they
refused to do this they were told that they had made the "right decision" and remained in the outer
core of the 33rd degree, thinking that they had finally 'arrived'. If they did or do commit this
form of blasphemy then they are told that they have made the "right decision", and they are sent on
to the inner core of the 33+ degree, which is the springboard to the higher levels which interact
with the joint humanoid-reptiloid Ashtarian lodges or branches of the 'Serpent Cult' on other
planets, within underground cities, and possibly even other dimensions. One source informs me that
former president George Herbert Walker Bush -- who was at one time the HEAD of MJ-12 -- had
attained to the 42nd degree, however he may have attaned to even higher levels since that time. I
would guess that the one who holds the highest level of initiation would be the 'dragon-king' of
Draconis himself, or whatever appellation the leader or the leaders of the Draconian Empire may go
by. - Branton):

A - Yes I did, but that is a loaded question, and I won't comment further. I'm not a Mason, or
member of any other secret fraternal group. There is one organization I am a member of [in the
U.S.A.]. That group is commonly called the "Central Unit." It is a pleasure to tell you that I AM a
member of the "Sub-Galactic League" of Costa Rica.

Q -- Is there any truth to the allegations that the CIA/'Aliens' have established 'bases' on the
moon, and also Mars?

A -- I've HEARD that too, but I haven't seen proof with my own eyes. The 'aliens' do allegedly have
bases on several moons of Jupiter and Saturn. The CIA operates in other COUNTRIES, but I've never
heard they operate on other PLANETS (Note: Perhaps we should have referred to the CIA's superior
agency, the NSA, whose personnel reportedly pilot the "black-budget UFOs" between the LUNA and
DREAMLAND bases. - Branton).

Q -- Have you heard any hints or rumors suggesting that there may be lower levels beneath the
ULTRA-7 level of the Dulce base, and also, where these might lead to and what they might consist
of?

A -- YES. Your guess is as good as mine... Sure, there was lots of TALK but that doesn't mean it's
there. However, I will tell you I saw elevators that were "off limits" unless you had an UMBRA or
higher security clearance. At that base, information is supplied to me at a "need to know" basis
ONLY! [My clearance was ULTRA-7]

Q -- Some insist that the U.S./Secret government has developed it's own disk-craft based largely
upon top secret antigravity experiments carried out by the Nazi-German scientists during World War
II. Have you heard anything referring to this?

A -- When I was working in Photo-security, heard a lot of talk, never saw the proof, but once in
the Air Force I developed a roll of film that showed a craft LIKE ADAMSKI'S, WITH A SWASTIKA ON THE
SIDE. (Note: A letter from 'R.J.M.' of Pennsylvania dated 1-31-91 stated: "...I have a lot of UFO
videos. I also have 'THE SECRET LAND' [1947]. It shows Bunger's Oasis and says they discovered warm
land at the South Pole. One German author claims the Nazi's had a photo-finish FIGHT with Byrd. At
the end of the movie, it says: 'Byrd's Intrepid 4,000 met and defeated ANTARCTICA'S TOUGHEST
BATTALIONS.' I don't think they were talking about the weather..." Another source has stated that
there were loses on BOTH sides, and the Battle for Antarctica against the Nazi's "Last Battalion" -
- which had fortified themselves in underground bases below the mountains of Neu Schwabenland,
Antarctica -- ended in a stalemate. Question: Why would Adolph Hitler and Eva Braun commit suicide
after Hitler had spent so much energy executing over 5000 Nazi officials whom he 'suspected' were
behind his assassination attempt at the 'Wolf' bunker, especially if he had a way out via a secret
Nazi South Polar base? The March 18, 1994 issue of THE PLAIN DEALER [Cleveland, Ohio] carried an AP
story titled "DOCTORS FIND BURNT BODY COULD NOT BE HITLER'S". Excerpts include: "...French forensic
experts say the charred corpse said to be Hitler's is not his body... experts FALSIFIED
verification reports ordered by Josef Stalin to APPEASE the Soviet dictator.... the body is
actually that of an unknown German male. [The forensic experts] spent more than two years analyzing
the autopsy reports prepared by Soviet coroners in the days following [the] surrender of the Third
Reich in 1945... the body [said to be Hitler's] had an extra tooth and only one testicle... no
German doctor who had examined Hitler before his death ever mentioned either anomaly." This is also
interesting when we consider that the well-known 'abductee', Barney Hill, remembered the following
experience under regressive hypnosis as recorded in the paranormal encyclopedia, "MYSTERIES OF
MIND, SPACE & TIME". Barney and his wife Betty were abducted by gray-skinned humanoids "from Zeta
Reticuli". HOWEVER, one of the 'beings' on the craft was described by Barney Hill under regressive
hypnosis in the following words which are taken from p.1379 of the encyclopedia: "...another figure
has an EVIL face... HE LOOKS LIKE A GERMAN NAZI. HE'S A NAZI... HIS EYES! HIS EYES. I'VE NEVER SEEN
EYES LIKE THAT BEFORE!" Remember that this occurred nearly 15 years after Europe had supposedly
been "de-Nazified". There seems to be an Antarctic connection with the Dulce scenario as well as
other possible 'Nazi' connections: German 'tourists' scouring New Mexico, exploring mines and caves
and buying up land and mineral rights just before the outbreak of WWII; the Nazi-connected CIA's
involvement and their placement of several Nazi S.S. agents -- who had been brought into the U.S.
via Project Paperclip -- within the Dulce and other underground facilities; the involvement of
secret 'Bavarian' lodges at Dulce; and the possible Antarctican-Dulce connection to 'Alternative
003'. Another interesting connection is the fact that the secret Nazi teams involved in the
construction and operation of the underground bases below the mountains of Neu Schwabenland and
elsewhere in Antarctica were called ULTRA teams. ULTRA is also the code-name for the DULCE base!
Also there seems to be a direct connection between the Dulce base and the Montauk base in Long
Island -- which was/is[?] reputedly jointly operated by the Draconian Reptiloids, Orion Greys and
the Bavarian Thule Society which had backed the Nazi agenda. - Branton)

Q -- Tom, did you have access to the alien craft? Were you ever inside any of them?

A -- Yes, I frequently saw them in the garages, there are quite a few of them. The main fleet is
stored at Los Alamos. Yes, I entered several crafts. There were two things that stick in my mind,
the odd spongy feeling of the floors, and the unusual pinkish purple color of the lighting. The
crew stated the floor becomes ridged in flight, and the purple tint of the lighting changes to
bright blue white. The entire inside of the air craft are scaled down in size, when compared to the
average human. The halls were curved and narrow, but some how, when inside it appears bigger than
it looks. Certain areas, the outermost sections, almost felt and looked alive. I was never taken up
in one.
Q -- Can you give me more information on the reptilian race, what do they do on the sixth level?
[The area called Nightmare Hall.]

A -- The worker caste does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors, cleaning the cages, bringing
food to the hungry people and other species. It is their job to formulate the proper mixture for
the type one and type two beings that the Draco Race has created. The working caste work at the
labs as well as at the computer banks. Basically speaking, the reptilian races are active at all
levels of the Dulce Base. There are several different 'races' of aliens that work on the east
section of level six (No doubt some collaborating 'Nordic' factions included. - Branton). That
section is commonly called "the alien section." The Draco are the undisputed masters of the 5-6-7
levels. The humans are second in command of those levels. I had to ARGUE with one large Draconian
'boss' frequently. His name is difficult to verbalize, Khaarshfashst [pronounced throaty kkhhah-
sshh-fahsh-sst]. I usually called him 'Karsh,' and he hated it. The Draconian leaders are very
formal when talking to the human race. These ancient beings consider us a lower race. Karsh called
me "Leader Castello," but it was used in a sarcastical way. However the worker caste is friendly
enough, as long as you allow them to speak first. They will answer if you address them. They are
very cautious beings, and consider most humans to be hostile. They always seem surprised when they
found many of the humans were open and trustworthy. There is no fraternizing with the aliens off
hours. It is forbidden to speak to any alien race [in the halls or an elevator] without a clear
business oriented reason. Humans can talk to humans, and aliens can speak to aliens, but that is as
far as it goes. At the work site, however, it's different. There is "free speech" in the labs. The
camaraderie found in the labs also reaches the computer banks section. In those areas, everybody
talks to anybody. However, everything changes the minute you cross the threshold of the hall.
Instantly, all conversations become strictly formal. Hard as it was, several times I had to arrest
some one, simply because they spoke to an alien. It's a strange place.

Q -- Exactly what first made you aware that something was wrong at Dulce? Seems to me that a place
as obviously horrible as this one wouldn't need an Einstein to know that this is a CRIME site! What
took you so long? Are you the guy who blew the whistle?

A -- There are several things you should know about. I took an oath, under the penalty of death,
that no matter what I saw or heard I would never divulge the information. Also, I signed a waiver
that states I would willingly give up my life if I was found guilty of 'treason'. At the Dulce Base
treason is "ANYTHING that mentions the details of daily operations at this facility, when outside
the confinement of the this base." When I first arrived, a "need to know" policy was in effect. The
story the 'honchos' told us was that "this is a Tri-Biotransfer Facility with Advanced Technology,
doing advanced adventurous methodology for medical and mental gains." Which is a fancy way of
saying they do really risky things with human life just to see what would happen. If a medical cure
happens, it will be heralded on the surface of the earth as a marvelous new cure, saying it was
found after years of research at some well known medical lab. The real story of the cure is never
explained. After all, the Dulce Base IS A SECRET FACILITY! These people are very good at what they
do. They do not tell the truth about the unfortunate people that end up in "Nightmare Hall." I
worked with aliens. With that in mind, you should get the idea of the secrecy and the security at
that place. Yes, I know this was not the usual hospital type job site, but in the beginning I
'bought' the whole package. I was reminded daily by intercom, in the elevators, that "this site
does high risk advanced medical and drug testing to cure insanity, please, never speak to the
inmates, it can destroy years of work." I'm sensible, when doctors say don't speak to them, who was
I to destroy the delicate situation? But one man some how caught my eye. He repeatedly stated that
he was George S---- and that he had been kidnapped and he was sure someone was searching for him. I
don't know why he sticks in my mind, I found I was remembering his face, thinking he sure didn't
look or sound insane, but many inmates said that. The next weekend I convinced a friend of mine, a
cop, to run a check on the guy, saying I had a run in with him and was curious. I didn't mention
the base at all. It was a sickening feeling when the computer confirmed that George S. was missing.
What's worse, the cops thought he was just another guy that got tired of the daily grind and split.
That was the beginning. Am I the one that blew the whistle? No. The next Monday, I searched for
George, but he was gone. There were no records that explained what happened to him. It was another
security officer that came to me saying he and some lab workers wanted an off duty meeting at one
of the tunnels, [off the record]. Curiosity took over and I said OK. That night, about nine men
showed up. They said they knew they were risking me turning them in but they wanted to show me some
things they thought I should see. One by one they showed records that proved many inmates were
missing people. There were newspaper clippings, and even photos that they had some how smuggled
into the base. They hoped to smuggle them back out, without me turning them in to the honchos. I
could see the fear in their faces as they spoke. One man stated he would rather lose his life by
trying, than to lose his soul by not doing anything at all. It was that remark that turned the
tide. I told them about George and the things I found out about him. After a few hours we pledged
to attempt to expose the Dulce Base.

Q -- The name Nightmare Hall is descriptive, but surely there was a 'regular' name, what was it
called in the manuals?
A -- In the manuals it was called "The Vivarium". It describes Dulce Base as a "secured facility
for tending bio-forms of all types." In their report it is retold as "a private subterranean bio-
terminal park, with accommodations for animals, fish, fowl, reptile, and mankind." After SEEING
this 'park' the name Nightmare Hall is far more accurate than the manual. The 'accommodations' for
the inmates at Nightmare Hall fall short of the pretty picture the manual describes.

Q -- You mentioned one reptilian leader, Khaarshfashst, do you know any thing about him, like where
is he from? Is he from Earth or some other planet?

A -- His name means "keeper of the laws". They recieve their name after they reach the "age of
awareness". They do not recognize time as an important factor in "being aware" the way humans do.
Upon their "age of awareness" they are cognitive of the station or position they are destined to
fulfill. At that time they chose or allow someone to choose their name. Their name will include the
position they hold and several personally chosen letters. Each letter has a personal meaning, known
only to the alien and the one that chose their name. Since Karsh's name means keeper of the laws
his name includes kaash [memory or keep, base word for 'Akashic' record] and fashst [law, base word
fast or bind]. Reptilians choose to be not only private but secretive of the location of their
natal place. To them birth, or emergence of life, is considered as one of the sacred rites of life.
They consider Earth or Terra their "home planet", but several reptoids discuss several star maps.
Most of those stars were within the Milky Way. Within those star maps lies the stars and planets of
the Planets of the Allegiance. Earth being one of the planets in their trade routes. If any human
asked clear questions about the Allegiance, the Aliens referred the questions to the Draco. The
Draco in turn, referred the questions to their supervisor [me]. I did not have that information
about the stars, because information was supplied on a "need to know" basis. I didn't 'need' that
information.

Q -- Did any of the working caste join in the revolt? Could you give me some names?

A -- A few of the reptilian janitorial crew let us know that THEY knew WE were attempting to
sabotage the work going on in the sixth and seventh levels. One of them, with the name Schhaal,
secretly formed a small group of reptoids with the same mind set as my group (Take note of the
similarity between this scenario and the NBC mini-series "V", which is now available on video
cassette after years of non-availability. I have it on good authority that the original author of
the "V" idea was an investigator who knew Thomas Castello on a personal basis. He had connections
in Hollywood and had written a motion picture script, which was in turn seen and 'borrowed' without
permission by an NBC employee and re-written as a mini-series. The show was based on

reptilian humanoids from Sirius-B who had come to earth under the guise of benevolent human-like
space brothers to bring a new order of universal peace. In reality they had a secret agenda to rape
planet earth of her resources and steal her people for biological sustenance. This agenda was being
contested by a human resistance who refused to fall for the reptilian's facade, and these resistors
were in turn working with a secret fifth-column of reptilians who did not agree with their leaders'
agenda for planet earth. Could this mini-series have had an actual basis in a bizarre reality? -
Branton). Sshhaal took upon himself the danger of informing me. He was as open as is possible in a
unique situation. On the day I found out about it, I was inspecting a camera near an exit tunnel.
He approached, stooped down (the tall reptiloids average about 7-8 ft. in height according to most
witnesses - Branton), seemingly scraping some non-existent dirt, and he quietly said, "A few of us
agreed that you are singular in your interest in missing-human reports. If true, walk away. I'll
reach you. If it's untrue, destroy my life now!" My heart almost leaped out of my chest, but I
silently walked toward one of the wide halls. For the rest of my life I'll remember those words! It
was the first time I KNEW reptilians could have individual thoughts and opinions! Basically, they
formed a uniform front with a small variety of interests. Or at least, that was what we had
thought. It was a couple days before I heard from him again. As he walked beside me in the sixth
level's infamous hall, I heard him say "Enter the exit tunnel on the sixth level, north, after your
shift." The next few hours were long and filled with thoughts of betrayal, or worse, but I
shouldn't have worried. I contacted one of the original nine [resistance] men, and let him know,
just in case. Gordon wanted to go with me, but I convinced him to wait a few feet from the exit and
pretend he was having trouble with his cart [electric, like a golf cart]. When I got there, there
were three of them. SSHHAAL formerly introduced FAHSSHHAA and HUAMSSHHAA [name base word is SSHHAA
or assist]. With that, I quickly grabbed Gordon from the hall and the five of us talked and walked
in the dark tunnels about three hours. After that day, the joined resistance group got bigger and
bolder. Ultimately, it ended when a military assault was initiated via the exit tunnels and they
executed anybody on their list, human or reptilian. We fought back, but none of the working caste
had weapons, nor did the human lab workers. Only the security force and a few computer workers had
flash guns. It was a massacre. Every one was screaming and running for cover. The halls and tunnels
were filled as full as possible. We believe it was the Delta Force [because of the uniforms and the
method they used] that chose to hit at shift change, an effort that killed as many as named on
their list (NOTE: If Thomas Castello is correct in his assertion, then based on his overall
revelations, as well as the revelations of others such as Robert Lazar, Phil Schneider, etc., the
Dulce Wars were the result of at least five overlapping factors or scenarios which converged at
more or less the same time or played into each other. This may have also involved a conflict of
interest within MJ12 itself, and apparently involved different security forces including the Delta
Force, Black Berets, Air Force Blue Berets, Secret Service, FBI Division Five, CIA stormtroopers
and Dulce Base security. The various factors which seem to have played into the Dulce wars would
include animosity towards the Greys for their slaughter of several scientists and security
personnel in the Groom Wars below Area 51 three years earlier as described by former MJ12 Special
Studies Group agent Michael Wolf; accidental [?] encounters between aliens and human construction
workers and security forces near Dulce as described by Phil Schneider; an attack on the Dulce base
'resistance' that was apparently ordered by die-hard collaborators in deep-level intelligence as
described by Thomas Castello; an attempt to rescue several of our best scientists who had been
captured by the aliens after they had discovered the "Grand Deception" involving a violation of the
established treaties, that is the permanent abduction of thousands of humans to the Dulce and other
bases for God only knows what purposes, as described by John Lear -- could it be that MJ12 / PI40
was unaware of these abductees, yet their superior agency the BLACK MONK / MAJIC agency was aware
and had agreed to an actual exchange of human life for technology?; and another factor would
involve a dispute over whether human security personnel could carry flash guns as opposed to
machine guns. All of these were apparently contributing factors to the 'altercations' which raged
throughout the Dulce Base beginning in 1979. - Branton). We, to this day, do not know who BETRAYED
us. Gordon Ennery ran beside me as we ran into the third level exit tunnels, and he died when
several bullets slammed into his back. I vaporized that assassin and kept running. And I'm still
running. Gordon will be remembered.

Q -- Tell me more about the flash gun. Is it difficult to operate, or is it like the weapon on Star
Trek, that can stun or kill on different modes?

A -- It is an advanced beam weapon that can operate on three different phases. Phase one, like Star
Trek, can stun and maybe kill, if the person has a weak heart. On phase two, it can levitate
ANYTHING no matter what it weighs. Phase three is the SERIOUS BUSINESS mode. It can be used to
paralyze anything that lives, animal, human, alien and plant. On the higher position on the same
mode, it can create a TEMPORARY DEATH. I assure you, any doctor would certify that person is dead,
but their life essence lingers in some strange limbo, some kind of terrible state of non-death. In
one to five hours the person will revive, slowly; first the bodily functions will begin, and in a
few minutes, consciousness followed with full awareness. In that mode the alien scientists re-
program the human brain and plant false information. When the person awakes, he 'recalls' the false
information as information he gained through life experience. There is no way for a person to learn
the truth. The human mind 'remembers' and believes completely the false data. If you attempt to
inform them, they would laugh or get angry. They NEVER believe the truth. Their mind always forgets
the experience of re-programming. You asked if the flash gun is difficult to operate. A two year
old child could use it with one hand. It resembles a flash light, with black glass conical inverted
lens. On the side are three recessed knobs in three curved grooves. Each knob is sized differently.
The closer the knob to the hand the less the strength. It's that simple. Each knob has three
strengths also, with automatic stops at each position. The strongest position will vaporize any
thing that lives. That mode is so powerful it will leave NO TRACE of what it vaporized.

Q -- Is the weapon called a Flash Gun or is there a different name in the manuals?

A -- Everybody calls them Flash Guns, or more commonly "The Flash" or "my Flash" when talking about
it. In the manual it is first introduced as the ARMORLUX Weapon. After that, it is explained as the
Flash Gun.

Q -- What type of security is found at the Dulce Base? What else is used against espionage or
unauthorized entry?

A -- I'll mention a few, but it would be nearly impossible to cover it all. The weapon, besides the
Flash Gun, mostly used is a form of sonic. Built in with each light fixture [and most camcorders]
is a device that could render a man unconscious in seconds with nothing more than a silent tone. At
Dulce there also are still and VCR cameras, eye print, hand print stations, weight monitors,
lasers, ELF and EM equipment, heat sensors and motion detectors and quite a few other methods.
There is no way you could get very far into the base. If you made it to the second level, you would
be spotted within fifteen feet. More than likely, you would become an inmate and never see the
light of the surface world again. If you were 'lucky', you would be re-programmed and become one of
the countless spies for the Ruling Caste.

Q -- According to certain reports, the Dulce Base is host to [other] aliens that live in level
five. Is that true? Can the humans freely roam or meet one-to-one in the halls or is some type of
protocol in effect?

A -- There is protocol from the first time you enter the base and it MUST be followed every time
you SEE an alien there. From the working caste, to the visiting aliens, to the Ruling Caste, there
is a never ending check list of rules, law, and strict protocol. There is never a chance to roam on
the fifth level. The alien housing area is off limits to any human. The Hub is surrounded by
security, arsenal, military and CIA\FBI sections. The area past the security is one of the most
secured areas because it houses so many classified files. The entire east side of the fifth level
is off limits except for security personnel holding ULTRA-7 [security clearance] or higher. The
garage on the west side of the fifth level requires ULTRA-4 clearance.

Q -- Is there proof available that could confirm the allegations of the underground base, or are we
just supposed to believe you?

A -- Many people have asked that one. No, I don't expect people to believe with blind faith, there
is tangible proof that has been seen, felt or inspected by quite a few folks. I'm in no position to
go on a lecture circuit to explain to every person on a one-to-one basis. I am trying to stay
alive. All I can do is state again, that Dulce is a SECRET FACILITY. They work HARD to make sure
nobody can find the place. If everyone could easily find it, it wouldn't be a SECRET facility. I've
explained the extreme security methods they use. There is other proof available. There are five
sets of copies in five different boxes in five different locations that hold complete proof of
every thing I have tried to explain. Here is a list of contents of each box (delivered into the
safe-keeping of five individuals known only to Thomas Castello and to the individual recipients -
Branton): (A) 27 sheets of 8 x 10 photographs of Aliens, creatures, cages and vats. (B) One silent
candid video tape, begins on the computer banks, shows the vats, multi shots of Nightmare Hall, two
shots of Greys, one shot of the Terminal showing sign saying 'To Los Alamos' and about thirty
seconds of the Shuttle train arriving. (C) 25 pages of diagrams, chemical formulas and schematics
of alien equipment. (D) A copy of the new treaty complete with signatures. (E) 2 pages of original
Alien documents signed by Ronald Reagan [as governor of California], each page includes Reagan's
signature. The ORIGINAL set mentioned above is sealed in one piece oxygen free heavy plastic box.
That set includes: (A) 27 sheets of 8 x 10 WITH original negatives (B) The video tape, AND the
original micro film, from which the video tape was copied. (C) The 25 original pages of diagrams
[with notations], formulas, alien equipment schematics plus the schematics for the Flash Gun and MY
Flash Gun. (D) The treaty with Reagan's signature plus seven other political signatures and four
Alien signatures. The working Flash Gun in that box is an extremely dangerous weapon. In the wrong
hands, there is no limit on the danger it could inflict. That proof must be protected. But when
placed in the hands of certain government agencies, it would not be treated as proof for an Alien
visitation. That government branch KNOWS THE TRUTH and they publicly lie. Think about it like this,
do you KNOW, for certain proof, that George Washington lived? Or do you believe what other people
SAID about him? There is no one alive that saw with their own eyes what is claimed about him. You
judge all you know about him by what other people SAID. Columbus SAID there is a new land, and it
was found. I am SAYING there are aliens in several underground bases in this country and terrible
things happen in those places. If I die, before it is proven, search for proof (after all, the
Dulce Base and the other bases aren't going anywhere. Unlike UFO's themselves they are not "here
today and gone tomorrow". If they are there, then there are bound to be some indications of the
fact. - Branton). Demand that the government admit it. If enough people demand it, they WILL find a
way to explain the base, or at least explain why they must keep it secret. There are MANY people
that work at the Dulce Base that know me. I am challenging those co-workers to speak up, at least
anonymously. Send a letter, or a telegram [or fax] to confirm what I have explained. In the name of
the brave men, woman, children and aliens that died TRYING to let the public know what is going on
at the Dulce Facility, EXPOSE that horrid place before thousands more innocent people are tortured
and die unspeakable deaths.

Q -- What about the elevators, do they drop from the surface to the seventh level in a couple of
seconds? Do you know anything about them? Are they electrically lifted? Every where on the surface
world there are elevators made by Otis Elevator Company. Does that company make the elevators at
Dulce?

A -- I failed to notice what brand was available in the elevators at the base. I could tell you
that there is no elevator anywhere at Dulce that drops from the surface to the seventh level. The
security blue prints show the levels are 'stepped' down. Each level drops one floor only. Not even
the Hub has an express elevator. After the third level, not only would you change elevators, you
are weighed and color coded, before you re-enter the car. All the elevators are magnetically
controlled, even lights in elevators, as well as all lights on all levels are magnetically induced.
The light bulbs are not the type bought on the surface, but a totally different type of light
system. The illumination found there is a closer match to natural sunlight than any artificial
light on the surface world. The shape of the elevators is unique. If you have ever seen a
Tupperware sugar bowl, you could see the shape copied in the elevator. Sort of like an open ended
oval with another half oval on each side. The elevator shaft matches the shape perfectly. The
magnetic controls are in the half oval shape. If you could stand in or close to the half ovals, you
would feel the slight pull of the power of those magnets. The motion is smooth and silent, there is
a nearly unnoticed surge when the motion starts or stops. There are no cables needed, because the
lift is magnetic, not electric. Since there are no cables in the elevator cars there is no chance
of them falling.
Q -- I understand that certain groups of cleared individuals in the government are collaborating
with alien groups. Is it known how many groups and of what type they are working with?

A -- I don't know how many groups or what type they are working with.

Q -- A mysterious security man calling himself agent "Yellow Fruit" says he worked at Groom Lake
[Area 51]. The Security Officer states that he's been in contact with benevolent aliens, at the
Groom Lake facility -- are you aware of such a group?

A -- Yellow Fruit is one of the slang names for Yellow Jack [or Yellow Flag] that shows quarantine
and caution in the labs. There are so many different slang names at Dulce labs that meant
quarantine that the workers published a booklet to show the meanings. At Dulce, Yellowfruit are the
lab workers [so called from the yellow light outside the decontamination chambers]. Banana is the
older workers, lemon is the new guys and so on.

Q -- Is there an alien installation under Groom Lake or Papoose Lake at the Nevada Test Site, and
are they conducting biological research at these sites?

A -- Most of the stuff at the Groom facility deals with defense, but there is a large storage area
in the tunnels that holds thousands of alien craft parts. From what I have heard, the medical tests
at the Nevada Test Site are conducted by and for the Navy.

Q -- According to my sources, the Aerospace companies have a secret underground installation in the
Tehachapi Mountains, not far from Rosamond near Edwards AFB. Insiders refer to the Tahachapi
Installment as the Ant Hill. They are experimenting with advanced technology such as antigravity
disks. Some have seen basketball sized floating orbs patrol the facility, do you have any further
information on this?

A -- The California mountains [Tehachapi, Chocolate, Shasta, etc.] all have alien security methods
and equipment. The basketball size orbs are used for unmanned patrol. They are silent, but when
photographing living beings there is a humming sound. The glow that emits light is magnetic aura.
This [light] is in the visible spectrum [3900 angstroms]. You can see the light, but the light does
not reflect off any thing.

Q -- Is there anything you can tell me about the moon - alien installations? Atmosphere? U.S.
bases?

A -- There is not much I can tell you there. I wasn't in the Lunar Program. I heard there was a LOT
of equipment sent to the moon between 1959-1964 under "Project Whiteout".

Q -- How do the aliens use magnetism? Do they use it as an energy source? Is there more we need to
know about magnetism?

A -- The aliens use magnetics for EVERY THING! They use magnetics as the basic structure for their
energy source. The more you learn about magnetics, the better. The Human Race calls them 'magnets',
the Aliens call them 'lodestar'. They have been harvesting lodestars [lodestones] for centuries.
Not only that, they want ALL the magnetic power on Earth. They intend to continue harvesting that
power, now and in the future. As long as we were only using magnetic power as an oddity, there was
no problem. But in recent times, the human race has begun using magnetic power and finding more
ways to utilize that commodity. There was a treaty made. In the original treaty, the human race (or
those who supposedly 'represented' the human race, if you could call it that - Branton) didn't mind
at all, 'we' considered magnets as hardly more than useless. As people searched for another source
for power, we turned to magnetics. The aliens wanted a new treaty. What could we offer? They chose
land, underground mining rights, animals and humans for new experiments. The general public NEVER
KNEW about the treaty. The governmental [Bavarian cultist] heads of the world chose another treaty
in 1933. This time 'we' got high-tech knowledge in exchange. So now, the more we use magnetics, the
more they claim humans, and the lands of the U.S.A. We were 'sold' in exchange for magnets. If you
doubt it, look around -- there are token companies that 'really' utilize magnetic power, but are
depending on electric based or ceramic magnets, NOT lodestar [magnetic oxide of iron] based
magnets.

Q -- What do the aliens do with the cow blood and other parts from mutilated animals? Do they need
these fluids for research or survival?
A -- The aliens use the blood and body parts for formula to keep them alive [their food] and for
use in the growing vats, and for the artificial wombs. Plasma and amniotic fluid are the two most
vital ingredients for their lives. Also, the 'sap' of some plants can keep them alive for months.
Most of the plants are parasitic in nature, but red grapes and okra plants can also be added to the
formula to keep them alive, if they have no 'regular' formula.

Q -- Female abductees report being inseminated by aliens. Are they trying to hybridize our species?

A -- Yes, they are breeding slave-warriors for the upcoming war with the alien races (the Nordic
races? - Branton). The serpentine races are in orbit around Earth, Venus and Mars.

Q -- Abductees have reported that the aliens can pass their bodies and that of the abductee through
window glass. Is this a feat of magic achieved by advanced technology or is it a psychic power?

A -- The aliens have mastered atomic matter. They can go through walls like we go through water! It
is not magic, just physics. We can learn to do the same thing. It has to do with controlling atoms
at will.

Q -- Are you in communication with benevolent aliens or do you have contacts that are? If you are,
can you tell us how we can communicate with their teams?

A -- I am not at liberty to discuss communications with any friendly alien life forms. I can tell
you there is a friendly factor active in Costa Rica, I am in direct communication with that factor.
I am an active member of the Sub-Galactic League of Costa Rica. This organization, using a small
satellite dish, a television set and ham radio equipment reached this factor. I might suggest that
by using similar equipment and a low band frequency, you may reach the same factor.

Q -- Do you stay in the U.S.A., or do you live abroad? Do you work now? I know you have been on the
run for several years.

A -- Yeah, quite a few years. I visit the U.S., but it's really dangerous when I do. I've lived in
several countries. I spent a few years in Mexico, working as a mercenary soldier. It's rough work,
frequently living in the bush, eating what ever I can find. I spent time in South America, fighting
the drug cartel [it's not the citizens, it's the secret government, top officials AND American
alphabet boys -- CIA, FBI, etc.]. I settled in Costa Rica, 'bought' a small house in Limon.
Actually it is a shanty that some one abandoned. I paid the equivalency of $11 to one of the local
constables for the right to call it 'mine'. My name changes when I think some one is asking
questions. I've worked in one of the underground bases near the Panama border. It's in the
mountains, not very far from a passive but 'active' volcano. It is not as fancy as Dulce, but the
people are wonderful.

Q -- What is the best city in Costa Rica for an American to visit and maybe move to live?

A -- None of them are worth anything [by comparison], but I like Limon. There is a real culture
shock when you get past the tourist sections. Inside the urban areas, it's not so bad, but away
from the beaten path the picture changes. There are no improvements in the shanties, no sewers,
plumbing, or paved roads. But if you stay in the cities, and you don't mind the big difference in
the cultures, the countries have a lot to offer. Nice weather, great beaches and beautiful trees
with fruit growing everywhere.

Q -- Are there any other security level names [other than 'secret' - 'top secret' - 'ultra']?

A -- There are many other security clearances, here are a few, UMBRA, STELLAR, G2-7Z, TRIAD, UMT
[Universal Military Training] and UMS [Universal Military Service], ASTRAL and SUB-ASTRAL. UMBRA is
higher than ULTRA (Note: It may be conceivable that some of the higher security clearances are used
for the joint human-alien interstellar projects. For instance Whitley Streiber described an
abduction to another planetary sphere where he encountered ancient ruins, aliens and human
personnel dressed in military kackies and carrying camcorders, automatic weapons, etc. Obviously
such personnel would have to possess an extremely high security classification, such as "Universal
Military Service" for instance? The joint alien-illuminati "alternative-3" projects have reportedly
taken part in joint offensive operations against the peaceful residents of other worlds, this
according to a couple who 'defected' from the alternative-3 movement after an agent from the
'Federation' warned them about such atrocities. - Branton)
Q -- Ever see a badge with 'MAJI'?

A -- No.

Q -- Since you have lived in Spanish speaking countries, it's obvious that you are bilingual. What
other languages do you speak?

A -- Other than English, the only other languages I speak are Spanish and Eusshu, the common
language [alien] spoken at Dulce. I speak Spanish fluently, and enough Eusshu to keep my self out
of trouble. Shortly after I first transferred to Dulce, I took a crash course in Eusshu. Any one
that plans to spend more than one week working at that base, they are wise to learn the basics.
Other wise, you are required to wait for an escort to get around. All the signs at that base are
written in the universally recognized symbolic language. Eusshu is logical and easy to learn.

Q -- What are the eating habits of the aliens? Are they carnivores?

A -- That depends weather they are one of the gray worker caste, one of the reptilian worker caste,
or one of the higher developed Draconian Leaders. Also, the created beings, replicants, type two
being, or one of the really strange [genetic] mixtures. I'll try to cover a little of each. The
formula includes amniotic water, plasma and several other body parts [raw, usually bovine]. This
nearly clear mixture with a texture of pureed peaches, and almost in that color. The grays make the
attempt not to 'eat' around the humans, because the odor of it is VERY unpleasant to ANY human.
They can spend days or even weeks between feedings. The working caste of the reptilians eat meat,
insects and a large variety of plants including vegetables and fruit. They prefer their meat raw
and very fresh, but have learned to enjoy some cooked meat like rare beef steak (Note: According to
many abductees, the reptiloids are not above eating human flesh. It has been said that they prefer
flesh that is young enough to be free of toxins, yet old enough to be imbued with a lifetime of
accumulated "emotional energy residue" which is resident within the human body. Some abductees
claim that certain reptilian factions have such complex bio-technologies that they are able to
remove a human's soul-energy-matrix and place it in a containment 'box', and use the controlled
'body' for whatever purpose they choose. Some abductees also insist that in some cases the
reptiloids can create a cloned duplicate of a person in a short amount of time through time warping
and replace the soul-energy-matrix of a person back into the new cloned body if their disappearance
from society would otherwise create too many problems. This way they can ingest the emotional-
residue-imbued original body without the abductee realizing [in most cases] that their soul-memory-
matrix has been transferred to a cloned body, because they would have experienced a total 'soul-
matrix' energy transfer and a suppression of any memories relating to the transfer process. The
cloned bodies do not possess the integrated emotional residue that the vampirialistic reptiloids
apparently crave and find intoxicating in a similar manner as a human on earth who is addicted to
hard drugs. - Branton). Unlike the Greys, they eat frequently and usually carry or send for food on
their breaks. The Ruling Caste is SECRETIVE about their foods. They have created several dietary
myths that they carefully embellish when the chance arrives. One of their favorite legends involves
one of their ancestors' ability to eat an entire flock of geese in one setting. They RARELY eat in
sight of any other species. They carefully choose their food, then carry their meal to their
quarters. It was only when dignitaries arrive at the base did they join their meals. They enjoy the
same foods we do, and they have been seen secretly munching on a freshly found snail. The "human
looking" replicants eat some cooked vegetables. They rely on vitamins and liquid protein for
sustenance. If they have to eat on the surface world, they can eat what ever they are served, but
as soon as possible they regurgitate. Their digestive systems frequently fail to process the food
properly. The engineered beings have a special diet, created for their dietary needs. The mixture
includes several organ foods blended with plasmatic fluids, amniotic liquids and parasitiplasm
materials. These unique 'animals' also enjoy occasional green plants, usually grasses or lettuce.
The creatures that are designed to become warriors, eat protein filled liquids.

Q -- In the Dulce Papers, copper seems to be high on the importance list. In what methods is copper
used?

A -- One of the main uses of copper at Dulce is containment of the magnetic flow, magnets are used
every where at that base. The infamous vats' interiors are lined with copper, and the exterior
walls are clad with stainless steel. The mechanical arm that stirs the liquid is made of a copper
alloy. Other uses include dietary needs in a few of the transbiotic beings. There are several
specially made cells or rooms built first with lead, then magnetic steel then clad in copper. It is
in those cells on the Fourth Level that contain living aural essence. This essence is what you
would call [a captured disembodied] 'soul' or..."astral body". (Note: This may tie-in with the
reports of certain remote-viewing "astral spies" who claim to have "projected" into underground
facilities like Dulce New Mexico or Pine Gap Australia, only to have close encounters with these
astral containment fields, or have been captured by the same and released after being
'interrogated' via super-sensitive electronic equipment. In one case an Australian remote-viewer
was probing the Pine Gap facility where he also "saw" three other astral spys.
The magnetic or astral body of one of these people had been captured by such a containment field,
which really disturbed him. This man, Robert, also saw Greys and Reptiloids operating in the deeper
levels of Pine Gap and also Nordic-type humans who were apparently captives and who did NOT seem to
be very happy about being there. - Branton)

Q -- Growing multi-species beings, blood formulas and human parts in vats sounds like a bad plot to
a science fiction movie. The doctors and scientists of the world claim you can't mix the species
(Note: Naturally this may be true, however through genetic bioengineering and gene-splicing this
has apparently been accomplished to some extent - Branton). The concepts mentioned in the Dulce
Papers sounds far fetched. Could you provide information that the average "surface world" reader
could understand about similar things?

A -- The doctors and scientists on the SURFACE world may say that, but underground, away from the
prying eyes of ethics boards, they DO GROW TRANS-GENUS BEINGS! There is a lot of written material
available at libraries. One of the best sources is an easy to read book published back in 1969, by
Prentice-Hall International, with the title of "THE SECOND GENESIS, THE COMING CONTROL OF LIFE" by
Albert Rosenfelt. In this book, they discuss "animals that may be especially bred to supply
genetically reliable organs for people." -- and "...the use of fetal or embryonic material from
which adult sized organs and tissues may be grown..." Also he discusses the fact that embryonic
tissue has no immunological activity, therefore it cannot provoke the defense mechanism in the
recipient. IT WILL JOIN THE BODY NOT AS A FOREIGN ANTIGEN, BUT AS A NATURAL PROTEIN. He further
discusses solitary generation, commonly called virgin birth, but also known as parthenogenesis.
With one "virgin birth" in 1.6 million births average ON THE SURFACE of the world, in Dulce that
rate is reversed. Occasionally, a "normally born" human infant is born in the hospital wards on the
Seventh Level. Parthenogenesis is the method used to grow type two beings. The now common
transsexual surgery on the surface world, began at the Dulce Base. Men became women on a whim in
the Seventh Level labs, and with the Fourth Level technology, the brain washing [resulted in] the
"eager desire to become a woman" and that poor man [whether a willing or unwilling participant]
FIRMLY BELIEVES he always wanted to be a woman. No one could convince him to believe the truth. ALL
THINGS ARE TWISTED AT DULCE. A quote by Dr. Ralph W. Gerard [in THE SECOND GENESIS] put in his now
classic statement: "There can be no twisted thought without a twisted molecule". MOST have
originated at Dulce.

Q -- How are the human workers stopped from telling everything about Dulce?

A -- Implants, fear threats to harm the families, EM control, also reprogramming with ELF
[Extremely Low Frequency] and drugs are the most common methods to 'encourage' the workers not to
divulge the location or daily routine.

Q -- A construction worker at "The Ant Hill" [The Northrup's Tehachapi Base] reports seeing 10-12
foot tall human looking beings in lab coats. Who are these guys, are they from the hollow earth?
(Note: The Hollow Earth theory is one that was postulated by various well known individuals,
including Marshall B. Gardner, Raymond Bernard, William Halley - discoverer of Halley's comet,
Edgar Allen Poe, Edgar Rice Burroughs, John Cleves Symmes, John Uri Lloyd and others. Basically the
thesis involves what one might refer to as the Geoconcavitic sphere theory, or that as the earth
was forming in its molton state the planetary spin created a hollow or concavity within the center
similar to the hollow created by the centrifugal force of a horizontal washing machine following a
spin cycle. The theory, which has been postulated in para-geological theories, in adventure novels,
and in some cases even in alleged visits to the "inner world", states that the 'shell' of the earth
averages between 800-1000 miles thick, with an interior surface consisting of oceans and land
illuminated perpetually by a sphere of electromagnetic and/or nuclear energy suspended at the very
center of the "empty space". There are reputedly funnel-like openings near the polar regions,
perpetually concealed by mist created by the collision of cold air from the outside and hot air
from the inside, which permits ingress and egress to and from this inner 'world'. The theory states
that the inner surface has its own gravity, yet slightly less than the outer surface gravity. One
side-theory is that between the inner and outer surface where gravity is nullified there exists a
layer of weightless or low-weight caverns in an eternal state of chaos where minerals, liquids,
gases and chemicals continually slam together from the earth's rotation, causing intense magmatic
activity, a virtual inferno, or "bottomless pit". Some have theorized that -- based on the
Apocryphal book of Esdras, chapter 13, which contains non-cannonized Jewish legends -- that the 10
'lost' tribes of Israel disappeared beyond the river Sambatyon and to a place in the far north
where humans never lived before called 'Arzareth'. In the last days, a path would be made through
the ice and waters of the north and the lost tribes would return. There are three tribes accounted
for as of this writing, or rather two tribes and two half tribes: Judah, Benjamin, half of the
Levite tribe, and apparently half of the tribe of Dan if we are to believe the Ethiopian 'Jews' who
claim to be descended from Dan. The '13th' tribe would be accounted for by the fact that the two
Josephite tribes of Ephraim and Manassah are considered distinctive tribes in and of themselves. As
for the 'giants', some believe that these have a direct connection to the 10-12 foot tall 'Anakim'
people mentioned in the Old Testament who were driven out of Palestine, following which the Torah
gives no further details as to their fate, although there have been many reports of such 'giants'
being encountered in large cavern systems below Alaska, Oregon, California, Utah, Texas and Mexico,
and also reports of ancient gravesites in the western U.S. and elsewhere where the remains of human
giants have reportedly been discovered. Most often they -- like the fifth dimensional "Sasquatch
people" themselves -- have been described as being benevolent, unless provoked. - Branton)

A. They are probably inner earth drones [workers]. The deeper you get, the stranger the life forms.
The tall men are from the subterranean levels, lower yet are the dwarfed deformed forms. I don't
trust either of them. There are other forms, that both the tall men and the dwarfed men fear and
loathe, they are similar to Bigfoot in appearance, but extremely violent and enjoy eating what ever
they find while it is still alive! They are subhuman and demented, with an IQ around 15 (Note:
Apparently, according to another source, these lower 'Bigfoot' type creatures -- having more of a
resemblance to apes than to the more "human-like" faces and features of the much friendlier
Sasquatch people who frequent the surface -- dwell in wild cavern systems some 6 or more miles
deep, along with other very large and dangerous insectoid and quadruped or serpentine reptilian
life forms reminiscent to something from out of a hadean nightmare. This is according to a report I
investigated some years ago of a group of speleonauts who reportedly broke into a vast underground
labyrinth west and northwest of Cushman, Arkansas, where they encountered these types of creatures
as well as friendly blue-skinned humans who claimed to be descended from a family that had survived
an ancient global deluge by taking refuge within a large ship. These ancient people claimed that
their ancestors had come to the Americas and discovered the cavern 'world', wherein they commenced
to establish their hidden civilization. - Branton). The reptiloid [hominoid as opposed to quadruped
or serpentine] life forms stay in caves or caverns that aren't very deep. They prefer the desert
mountains. They use camouflage rather than fighting, but they do carry vril rods for protection
[flash guns]. They do have a symbol, not the hokey "snake-with-wings" that I keep seeing in the
public (which is used mostly by the GREYS and also as a medical symbol for the Delta Force -
Branton). The REPTOIDS use a dragon with its tail in its mouth [a circle] with seven pointed stars
in the middle.

Q -- There have been reports of the Delta Force having black vans with no tires that hover over the
ground. How much are we [U.S.A.] already inter-working with alien cultures?

A -- I haven't seen the black vans you mentioned. We are totally submerged with alien cultures.
Very little of the original human cultures have survived.

Q -- How can WE [the public] go after, or expose an alien culture which is covert and hidden?

A -- Go for the best shot. That means go after the REPTOID. They stay near the surface, they choose
to try to hide and avoid contact. They are soldiers, doing a job and usually there are two or three
at each job site. They are 'manning' a remote post. They are not to bother the humans unless they
are endangering the post. Most of them are not hostile and won't kidnap you, they may blast you
with a flash gun that may paralyze you [you won't remember the flash] for an hour or two and cause
confusion and mild fear. It could cause you to black out [pass out] for a while. It is their way to
escape and buy time to hide any visible equipment. If you know any areas with repeated reptilian
sightings, then that is the place for you to look. They are fearsome to meet face to face, and
their voices are harsh and whispery with heavy ss's, but most of them understand English [and
several other languages]. Wear something with a reptile [not something violent, like St. George
killing the Dragon!] in sight. If you see one, keep your hands OPEN, palm forward, arms DOWN. That
is the non-aggression approach. DON'T raise your arms, unless told to. DON'T carry anything in your
hands or arms. If he doesn't run, walk SLOWLY towards him. Let him speak first. They consider
humans repulsive and hostile and threatening [with good reason!]. DON'T try to offer him anything,
DON'T touch him or anything of his. If he hisses at you, back up a couple feet, but DON'T LOOK
AWAY! It simply means he finds you smelly. DON'T try to overpower him, he is stronger than ten or
twelve men! Usually, if he hasn't run so far, he is curious and wants to talk to you. FIGHT YOUR
FEAR and your thoughts of panic.

Q -- How do we get closer to some kind of data to prove to others that there really is a danger
from non-human beings?

A -- Good question. I'm afraid we will find the proof the hard way, when we are invaded. Try to
keep a small camera with you at all times. When you search for reptoids, keep it in your pocket.

Q -- Is there a specific location where the public can set up their cameras and equipment to
DOCUMENT an alien-government base, and/or their activities?

A -- The problem is, most of the meetings are held in military bases or underground. The Groom Lake
Facility does fly several alien craft that regularly fly over unpopulated land that go back and
forth from several bases, Southern California has several notable areas. Twenty Nine Palms --
Lancaster or Chocolate Mountains are well know for such activities.

Q -- Could you provide us with a copy of your badge or card you used at Dulce?

A -- Badges or cards never leave the bases. All exits have bars or walls of metal... to open, to go
out requires using the card. When you use it for an exit slot, the card won't come out. Each time
you leave the base, you are issued a new card, with all the usual data about you, plus your weight
added, corrected daily. There are several mines in the Chocolate Mts. that open into a base
highway, but be aware that they are patrolled regularly and there are cameras there.

Q -- There are so many types of really far out 'Aliens' seen in TV, movies, magazines and popular
fiction, is there one type of a fictional unknown race, in your opinion, that fits the term
'Alien'?

A -- Yes! There are two, an alien that is totally indescribable, and another would be a pseudo-
alien.

Q -- What are the dimensions of the Dulce Facility?

A -- There are 1,700 paved miles of roads under Dulce and Northern New Mexico., towards Los Alamos
is another 800 miles of tunnels. The base is STILL GROWING [due west].

Q -- What is the top depth?

A -- The First Level starts 200 feet from the surface. Each level has a ceiling of seven feet,
except levels six and seven, the ceiling there is 45 and 60 feet. There are approximately 45 feet
or more between each level. The average highway ceiling is twenty five feet. The HUB at the base is
3,000 feet wide. Use a 7.5 minute scale map to try to comprehend the size of the place.

Q -- Are there "regular vehicle" exits that can be observed from the ground?

A -- Yes, but they are inside Los Alamos.

Q -- Are their aerial exits that can be observed?

A -- Twenty miles due north of Dulce (across the border into southern Colorado? - Branton) is a
large hanger, it is hidden by a facade of cliffs. Look for an isolated short road on the top of a
mesa, with no road to or from the top.

Q -- Are the ventilation shafts visible?

A -- The ventilation shafts are hidden by bushes or vents inside caves. There are five on the top
of the mesa, be aware there are cameras inside most of the vents.

Q -- Is there external security, and could we recognize them in or around the town itself?

A -- There is minimal security on the surface, most of the men [and women] are Air Force or
"highway crew" men. There used to be a Best Western motel that hosts or hires a lot of Base workers
from Level One. I don't know if that motel is still operational. Most of the security force live in
Santa Fe. Others live at White Pine [Los Alamos].

Q -- Are there security sensors? What type? If so, what is their power source?

A -- Yes there are many types of sensors, radar, infrared, heat sensors, microwave, EMGW, and
satellite. Most of the sensors are powered by magnetic power. The only thing you may notice on the
surface, would be an occasional satellite dish.

Q -- If you can, give us some information on the upcoming war with the aliens. When does it start?
Do you recommend going underground?
A -- The war has already begun. To start, they use "weather control" devices that can cripple a
city in hours. Storms, flood and drought -- with those few things they can bring any country to
their knees in a hurry. Yes, I do recommend going underground. Choose a location that has a higher
elevation than the surrounding terrain. Pick out a cave or even an abandoned mining shaft or two,
bury a cache of supplies [including food and water!] near these locations. Place the supplies in
heavy plastic boxes that have tight lids [to prevent the destruction by earth burrowing rodents and
insects]. Then plan to live like a squatter when it becomes necessary. If you own land, create a
system of tunnels and tell no one. Use your tunnels to secrete your supplies, and plan to live in
those corridors when you must.

Q -- What about the reptilian ships that are in orbit around the equator (presumably including the
original two 'planetoids' that arrived in geosynchronous orbits around earth at 400 and 600 miles
up in 1953. This reportedly led to an NSA project which successfully communicated with the Grey
aliens and resulted in a contact-landing-treaty scenario involving president Eisenhower and other
Executive-Military-Industrial officials at Muroc/Edwards/Holloman Air Force Bases in 1954 -
Branton), are they cloaked?

A -- They are not cloaked the way you may think. It's more like nobody is learning to SEE, even
though it is in plain sight. Like the mail man becomes invisible because you are so used to seeing
him you never noticed he is alive. One of the favorite methods of covert activities is to 'hide'
their operation in such an OBVIOUS way [or place] that no one would suspect it is covert (for
instance, hiding entrances to underground bases beneath religious shrines, federal buildings,
mining works, malls, libraries, lodges, hotels or basically areas that one would consider the least
likely places to hide or accommodate an entrance to an underground facility. The underground New
World Order 'FEMA' facilities throughout the United States apparently utilize this type of
concealment with many of their bases. - Branton)!

Q -- What are the Greys susceptible to?

A -- The grays are photosensitive, any bright light hurts their eyes. They avoid sunlight, and
travel at night. Camera flashes causes them to back up. It could be used as a weapon against them,
but they recover quickly. It could buy enough time to escape. Use commands, or nonsensical words in
the form of commands and they will back up. Their brain is more logical than ours and they do not
create 'fun'. They do not understand poetry either. What really confuses them is saying things in
"pig-latin". We learned that in a hurry, and used it against them [the GREYS] in the Dulce Wars.

Q -- Can greys read your intentions if you came up behind one?

A -- Yes. They read your INTENT, because they use your body's frequency. The human race broadcasts
a frequency, that they recognize as an electromagnetic impulse. Each person has a slightly
different frequency, that difference is what we call 'personality'. When a human thinks, they
broadcast strong impulses, in the case of 'fear' the frequency is 'loud' and easy to recognize (by
the same right, a calm and composed mind-set should be far more difficult to 'recognize' -
Branton).

Q -- Can we shield ourselves against their mental control?

A -- We CAN shield ourselves against them, however 95% of the human race never try to control their
thoughts, and controlling our own thoughts is the best weapon. The average person rarely thinks in
a clear pattern. That allows the brain to think in a chaotic way. Control your thoughts, AND YOU
CAN STOP THE ALIENS ATTEMPTING TO ABDUCT AND CONTROL YOU. Controlling my own thoughts have kept me
alive for years.

Q -- Could you shed some light on the type of human the aliens are looking for when they abduct?

A -- I can tell you that the most common are petite women in their early twenties or early
thirties, dark haired boys between five to nine, small to medium size men in their mid-twenties to
mid-forties. But, let me stress that there are ALL TYPES of people being held against their will in
the Dulce Base! There are tall heavy men and women, teenagers, elderly folks and very young girls
in the cages AND the vats. I only mention the most common age-size are the small young men and
petite women. The boys are favored because at that age their bodies are rapidly growing, and their
atomic material is adaptable in the transfer chamber. The young small women are frequently very
fertile. The men are used for sperm. I have no idea why they prefer small to average size men.

Q -- Did you ever see twins or triplets, etc.?


A -- Since you mentioned it, no. It never crossed my mind to search for them. But then that doesn't
mean they aren't there. There is no way I could have seen everybody at that huge complex.

Q -- What is the prevalent human race at the Dulce Base? I am curious about both the human workers,
and the inmates.

A -- The human work force is made of people from every nation on the surface world. The one thing
they share is that they all speak english. If you are asking if there are white, black, red, yellow
and brown skin color, again I'll have to say that there is no 'prevalent' race there. As for
inmates, I could see ALL races there. From what I could see, it looked like there were more 'white'
people, but again, I saw a constant flow of different people, many I think, were only there for a
few hours.

Q -- Please explain the method they use to identify each inmate.

A -- No one has a name. When first brought to this facility, they were issued one large 'number'.
Usually that code has a mixture of numbers and letters. They show the place, how, and by who,
followed by the time, age, sex and finally the personal number [their S.S. number]. For example it
might look like this: NVLV-00A-00700-P00:00:00-00-M-000-00-000

Q -- With that huge facility, trash and garbage must be a real problem, how do they dispose it?

A -- It was never a problem. Some of it is 'reformed' or melted down then remade. Some of the wet
garbage is 'eaten' by bacterial forms, and what's left is vaporized in a vat like chamber. The
residue of that action [it takes them months to get enough to measure] is used in a complex lye and
used to fertilize crops.

Q -- Where is your family? Not just your wife and son, but parents and siblings?

A -- Cathy and Eric are still missing. My parents died in a car crash when I was in my teens. I
have one brother, if he is alive I suspect he is inside an underground base some where. I haven't
heard from him for several years. Please pray for them, please!

Q -- What is your birth date, and where were you born?

A -- 23 April 1941, Glen Ellyn, IL [actually in a farm at home, in the place now called Glen Ellyn,
my birth certificate list is at Wheaton, IL]

Q -- You have been through so much, and yet keep fighting, what is your biggest fear?

A -- That the general public will forget THE TRAPPED INNOCENT PEOPLE in the despicable place, and
will ignore THE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN, WOMEN AND MEN ADDED TO THAT PLACE EVERY MONTH.

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