From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...>
Date: 2012-12-13T01:20:45+09:00
Subject: [ruby-core:50834] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #7549] A Ruby Design Process

>> What people can do is to persuade matz or fork Ruby.
>
> An attitude like this is almost guaranteed to end in a fork. I do not want Ruby forked.
>
>> Standard language of discussion of designing Ruby is C and Ruby.
>> People can use English, Japanese and other natural languages for assistance.
>
> How are we supposed to persuade matz and the people who have the most influence on him if the language of discussion is only spoken by 1.7% of the world's population? We have to utilize a lingua franca for us to communicate our ideas with each other. In this day and age that language must be English.

Proper language depend on the communication place. example, I and
naruse-san talk by English when discussing on ruby-core. but I usually
use Japanese when I get lunch with matz or other japanese developers.

We are already discuss by English, right? You can't inhibit face to
face meeting language because it's totally meaningless. you anyway
don't listen such talk. That is language independent issue. I think.

If you want to inhibit face to face discussion itself, it doesn't make
sense too because each rubist naturally talk about ruby when they meet
and get a lunch. Nobody can stop it.

And your worry is just illusion. As far as I know, almost all feature
discussion was discussed on ruby-core. So no one can solve an
illusion.


> Personally I don't think of this proposal as a "heavy process." I see it as a starting ground for discussion on how to make the evolution of Ruby a more collaborative process. With the challenges that face Ruby in the next couple of years, collaboration is *essential* for the continued prosperity of Ruby proper.