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For donations to desert, send them to Free America Radio Network, 121 Seaparc Circle, Suite B, Kingsland, Georgia 31548. Phone number: 912-882-2142. Cell: 304-629-7169. For reference: Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd ) ***************************************************** Start ***************************************************** {01:41:28.086} [Howard] and I said those 35 or so cops should be executed tomorrow morning because theyre the terrorists and so should the child protective service workers be executed. They ought to be hung out in the streets in public view to show that the people are just not going to put up with this anymore. Of course, you know that nobodys going to listen to me because all these Christian and Jewish and Islamic assholes that believe their religious shit that you shouldnt hurt anybody, you shouldnt kill anybody. Theyre not going to do anything like this. They dont read the Bible, they just listen to what the preachers have to say so nothing like thats ever going to happen. Its not going to be done. And, really, I do agree that the best way to do this is in the courts if you can find somebody that will help you to put the right stuff into the courts. Well, it sounds like this ladys lawyer has found the right stuff. And, by God, didnt that just prove exactly what I just said that you dont have to continue cooperating with anything. They cant force you to continue to cooperate with anything that they try to force you into. At any time you have the right to withdraw and get out of any activity. As a matter of fact if you had any sense wed get out of Medicare entirelyevery one of you. Theres an alternative way to take care of anything and probably youll last a lot longer than you will if you stick to the damned Medicare drugs bullshit that these medical people push on you. But thats hard to digest for a lot of peopleI know. Anyway, rarely, and I mean very rarely do you ever ask me or hear me talk aboutonce in a while somebodyll ask me if Im going to remind the peopleabout sending a donation

to support our work. Well, somebody like one of our listeners, Neil in Kentucky, has to remind me to do that. God bless Neil. He worries about whether or not well be able to keep going and thats why he does that. And I just figure that if God intends us to keep going somethings going to come from somewhere to do it. Im not a beggar thats going to get on here and beg for money for our work much less for anything else but Im going to make an exception and Im not going to ask you to send a whole lot of money but I would suggest you get that e-mail and find out what location it is and try to send a couple of dollars to help this lady to fight this because this is a very, very important case across this entire country for a lot of parents who are having this same problem. This is a horrendous problem that is going on all across the country that some moron doctor said the kid should be on some kind of a drug because the school moron said that the kid is hyperactive. All kids are hyper. All kids are active. If activity is hyperactiveness then somethings wrong with the moron who is making this determination. All kids are active. Its natural for kids. Now, maybe its parental mistakes and parental failure to teach the children a little bit of self control but its not necessarily the kids fault. Its also the fault of teachers who by rules and regulations cant do anything to the children to make them behave themselves. All they can do is say, time out, go sit over in the corner. That doesnt work. I hope you know that. A good smack along side the upper side of the buttocks and some times itll take five or six of those smacks before itll work but thats not allowed anymore because you might harm the child. Anyway, somethings got to be done about the control of our children because your children are your private property {so what are they doing with a birth certificate??} and they are interfering with the use and enjoyment of your private property and nobody not even this lawyer for this lady is going to bring this case in the proper way. She doesnt even know enough to know that what theyre doing is a breach of their public trust, that they have no right to interfere with her private child and tell her how to raise her child. If her child wants to end upwhat was that song Elvis Presley didborn in the ghetto and he went out with a gun and the next thing you know he was dead. These things happen. Some children are going to do that. I dont know if its part of the time and place where they were born. I got some ideas but I wouldnt say I know for sure what causes these kinds of things. Other children are born in those situations and end up being leaders in the country. They grow up to be really something important. Other ones grow up to be big business people and make big money and move out of those bad situations and take their family out of those bad situations. Other ones make the situation even worse by breeding more stupid kids that will live in the same situation. A friend of mine has a Tee shirt that says stupid people shouldnt be allowed to breed. I dont know who in the hell has the right to determine who is a stupid people and who isnt in order to determine who has the right to breed. Maybe you should realize yourself that youre not very bright and you shouldnt breed children that are not going to be very bright either. Maybe its all upon you to do it. But whatever. Government has no authority to step in until after something has happened. Government has an absolute authority to protect the rest of society from an individual who causes some kind of a problem. If he assaults you or rapes you or robs you or murders somebody in your family government has a duty to move in and do something. There is no way of avoiding that jurisdictionit is absolute. But they have no authority to step in ahead of time and try to create these avoiding situations, especially under the pretense that a doctor knows what the hell hes doing by giving you some kind of a drug that is going to end up being more harmful to you than good. I dont know how many

parents in this country have fought against these kinds of orders in the past but a lot of them who have tried to fight I know have lost the fight because they knew nothing about their right of private property and their lawyers know nothing about the right of private property and their lawyers know nothing at all about the government breaching its loyalty to the Constitution and the public trust that the Constitution created to step out of their authority and into the authority of your private lifethey just know nothing about this. Slowly, I think some of this stuff is beginning to come out. Some people around the country are starting to listen and hear what I and a few others like Mr. Rod Class is starting to teach and he is much on the right track. Hes still failing to realize that stupid things like civil rights cases do not apply to most of the people. As a matter of fact somewhere here I have a court case where some light-skinned female filed a complaint against the college under Title 42, Section 1983, a civil rights case, and the case went up to the Court of Appeals in Philadelphia and it was rejected and thrown out and dismissed as improper because it does not apply to her. She is not a minority. What ever the hell a minority means she does not fit under the minority category and had no right to file under a civil rights claim. Dont follow these civil rights claims leaders very far because most people dont fit into the minority. It matters not what color your skin is. It matters what your origin is and what you can trace your roots back to. Most people dont fit into the minority. If you cant trace your roots back to having been a slave back in the 1800s1700s and 1800s in this countrythen you dont fit into that minority category. There were many people that had dark skin that were not in slavery. They were business people, they were working class people in this country. They werent in slavery so they dont fit into the minority category. The whites definitely dont Read Title 42, Section 1981 and 1982. It very clearly explains that this did not apply to the other people that were not in slaverywrong way to go about But breach of the public trust has nothing to do with that category of being a minority or being entitled to civil rights. So Id suggest you be very careful of listening to anybody who promotes civil rights cases unless you happen to be able to trace your roots back to being a slave in this country. Now, let me tell you something. If you go back to Egypt you can trace back the roots of light-skinned people and find out that they were slaves. They were controlled by a dark-skinned community, a dark brown community. They were owned. The light-skinned people were the slaves. If you trace back into the Moroccan Empire you will find out that the light-skinned people were the slaves. They were the minority. But that is not applicable to this government and its concept of laws that the minority in this country were the slaves that were in this country. Its funny how history has switched back and forth over the years, how one group of people have had the higher authority and other groups have had the lower authority. Well, in this country there wasnt supposed to be anything like that and its still not supposed to be like that. So this 14 Amendment and this civil rights crap actually is unconstitutional. It should not apply to anybody. The only that applies in this country is whether or not the Constitution is adhered to. If they arent loyal to the Constitution which means in accordance with the law then theyre in breach of their trust and fiduciary duties. As a much stronger case it cannot be thrown out of court under some pretense that the state cant be sued or the individual in government has any kind of immunity because he has no immunity from breach of his fiduciary and trust duties. Read these cases that weve finding and talking about lately. They very specifically apply to the kind of activity that is going on with these government

people who are imposing rules and regulations like they did on lady in Detroit and her daughter with no authority to do such a thing whatsoever. [Dave] The website for her if you want to support her efforts is www.justice4maryanne.com and that is the website to support this lady, ~Maryann Godbaldo. [Howard] I would strongly suggest that any of you that could afford a couple of dollars would send something to her. I dont know who she is, Ive never met her, Ive never been in contact with any of them. I just got the e-mail a couple weeks ago when that incident first happened and now weve got this other e-mail that the lawyer is showing that she was in the right and what they did was wrong. And thats as much contact as Ive had with them. I dont know them. All I know is that story just proves how out of control this government is and how wrong it is in what it does. And if these kinds of things are not stopped in one way or another and continue to be stopped in other places by people who will stand up against it then were going to live in a total Communist state. {01:33:23.671} . . . {02:30:51.370} [Howard] The primary case that I first found related to this breach of the public trust was Jersey City v. Hague, which right off had I dont think I have the cite on that {Jersey City v. Hague, 115 Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8 (A 2nd )} I think its book 115 of Atlantic Reporter 2nd, page 8, if my memory serves me correctly {good mem.}. Now, youre not going to find that real easily. Youre probably not going to find it on the internet. You might find if you Google Driscole or Driscolle, Driscole v. Burlington Bridge Company. I think that is on the internet. Both of those cases reiterate the same basic statements that the people have the power to bring these complaints against public officials and I think the court might have said that particularly in Jersey City v. Hague because as the story goes Mr. Hague was the mayor of Jersey City from 1904 to 1944 and it wasnt found out until after he left office in 1944 and a new mayor took over that he had been charging the people that worked for Jersey City government three percent of their paycheck payable to him in order to keep their job. What an interesting racket he had going. He had no right to do anything like that. That was definitely a breach of his fiduciary and trust duty as a public official and the court heard the case. It went all the way up to the Supreme Court and they spelled this out that government has no right to step outside of the law and no government official can do this and get away with it unless it is allowed by the people to happen. Unfortunately there is an awful lot of this stuff going on but that case has absolutely no relevancy to the other things that were finding that are so crucial to the freedoms and rights of property of the American people and I havent found a case that addresses any of these arguments as far as the trust cases go. I have found cases where private property rights have been argued and there are dozens and dozens of those kinds of cases on private property rights and some of them cover things like zoning is an interference in private property and your use and enjoyment of private property. Zoning regulations violate the law. Well, that does somewhat show that theres a breach of the fiduciary duty of the

government officials who apply your property to their zoning regulations but it never went into the breach of fiduciary duty or breach of trust arena with the cases that were filed. They were strictly on private property and the right of private property being interfered with by government. So lawyers have managed to keep all this stuff separate and lawyers seem to have a tendency to stay away from anything to do with either a constructive trust or breach of the trust unless theyre being paid enough. If you got a lot of money and you can pay the lawyer enough hell do one of these cases and we found a whole slew recently and this fellow that sent me the disk also sent me a couple of printouts of a whole list of very recent cases up through the 1990s and the 2000s of cases on constructive trusts and if you look into those cases they repeat some of the things that were said all the way back in the 1940s and 1950s in cases like Jersey City v. Hague and Bristol v. Burlington Bristol Bridge Company showing that the intent of the law has never changed when you get far enough up in the courts. In the lower courts it appears that you will get very little or no respect with the law. The lower courts seem to be just as corrupt as what the rest of the lawyers are and go along with what the lawyers want in order to protect the scams and rackets that lawyers and agencies of government that are controlled by lawyers are running to extort from the American people. It is going to take an effort to go to a higher court from anybody whos going to get involved in any of this kind of stuff, at least for a while until we build enough cases to have a background to present to a lower court and say to the lower courts that if you continue along the line that youre doing then you will be liable for breach of the trust. That might straighten some of these judges out in these lower courts. It might also straighten some of these prosecuting lawyers out in some of these lower courts. It might even straighten out some of the defense lawyer at whatever level they defend and are supposed to be protecting your private property and dont do it. But these cases are oriented around the loyalty to the trust document. The trust documents being either the state or federal constitutions depending upon what your situation may be. In a case of interfering with your private automobile, a case with interfering with your private home that you bought and paid for it comes down to the constitutional mandate either from the state constitutions or from the federal constitution applicable to the states through the 14th Amendment that government has no right to interfere with the use and enjoyment of your private property and if they do that would be indeed a breach of their public trust, their fiduciary duty to act honestly with the highest level of integrity and good faith. I cant help but to choke and laugh every time I repeat the courts statement that government has to operate at the highest level of honesty, integrity and good faith because in my years of life I have had a lot of dealing with governments and I have never seen good faith, honesty or integrity. They can manage to twist everything around backwards, turn it upside down and put it in a position where they benefit more than you and I do. 02:38:35.073 . . . {02:43:34.796} [Howard] But the point Im trying to make is that the breach of public trust occurs when a government official, be it a little low-level police officer or the lawyer who prosecutes it or the judge who hears the case and leans towards the prosecution that the prosecutor wants are breaching their public trust when in any way any of them interfere with the use and enjoyment of private property because they have no right to do that. They

had no right to register our birth certificates and put us in a position of being property of the government and thats exactly what happened with the birth certificate. The property of the body was turned over to the government for its control. Theyre controlling everything your body does. Because its registered in government theyre presuming you to be resident within the government. You reside in one of their file drawers so youre a resident. And just in case you dont understand that the news media has been taught to use that term constantly to refer to the people who live in a certain area, the residents of this area had this problem. Down in Alabama the residents have suffered terrible damage down there. The news media is full of stories about the poor residents. I dont know who these God damned residents are. They must be cockroaches because theyre everywhere. But the poor people, they dont even mention the people. God bless those people, they have certainly gone through a terrible experience down there. Theyre people, theyre not residents {res (Latin, thing) ident}, theyre not cockroaches but this cockroach government created this position of resident and it traps you into being a party to them {part of government} so that they can apply their rules and laws to you and thats why they taught us to do this and what you have to show is that you are not a resident, you are not party to the government {a presumption stands until rebutted}, that you never asked for such a privilege knowingly and on purpose and that they are imposing upon your private property that you bought and paid for as your own private investment in the property and they have no right to regulate it or tax it or control it in any way, shape or form. And if they attempt to do so it violates their public trust because they are not being loyal to the constitutional mandate that government cannot take private property for public use and benefit without paying just compensation for it. And my question is, did they pay for your automobile when you registered it? Did they pay you for your right to travel and move about freely when they made you get a drivers license? Thats a valuable property right, the right to move about freely, did they pay you for it? Well, if they didnt pay you for it then they took that right, that property right, or the property rights in the automobile or the property rights in your home or the property rights in your body through the registration of some piece of paper that identifies any one of those pieces of property and they took it for their public use. Government, remember, is public. We are not the public. We are private people unless you work for government. If youre a party to government then youre part of the public. And this stupid bull crap going around this patriot community about the difference between the private side and the public side, these idiots have no idea what theyre talking about. Anything to do with government is on the public side. Everything involved in government is involved in the public government functions. If youre involved in a public function such as banking you are on the public side. You put yourself there. Your private side has been lost. The only way you have a private side is to be private and not involve yourself in any kind of government public functions. What is it with these people? Why are they so brain dead that they cant understand that or that they think that government will give you both a private side and a public side? Im just overwhelmed by the idiocy that some of these people come up with. But I guess its all explainable by the fact that they have an education. Education was probably the biggest detriment to freedom in America to property rights in America. {02:48:49.101} . .

. {03:17:56.867} [caller] Mr. Griswold, I have something to share with you before you go. For those who have problems with foreclosuresmay I? [Howard] Yeah. Yeah, theres a lot of new information coming out on foreclosures which is showing as I spoke about a week or two ago that is going to eventually shut down all these major banks and cause a terrific economic problem in this country. [caller] Yes, and this is something that some of your listeners or the callers today they have heard me say it because Im just telling everybody about it and if its good, good, if not, well, well keep trying. It has been accepted and is being done by, believe it or not there are some good attorneys and they are on this side of the fence. And, actually, I myself did everything by the book according to the best of my knowledge and I did everything by the book and they shredded me. So, they threw me out of my home so I went to one of my rentalsfine, dandy, Im happy, but mentally destroyed. I went to this attorney to a seminar, to the good attorney thats on our side and he said to me, you can do three things. And I asked him, what is the best and the fastest thing? He said, were going to do, whatever they did to you were going to do it on them. And I said, what do you mean? He said, were going to do an unlawful detainer on them. Were going to do an unlawful detainer, serve them with thecomplaint but answering that its going to be a strategy we have to go with and they will fine a quiet title and they wont be able to get you out and What do you think? [Howard] Hes right. This is part of what Ive been trying to teach to people that we have to learn to do exactly what they do only turn it around backwards and show where the law applies to what youre claiming, not to what theyre claiming. [caller] Right. And someone asked me, what if they come to the table and they ask what are they going to bring to quiet title, what are they going to bring? [Howard] Actually, they have little or nothing to bring in, in defense of what theyve done as long as you use the law and show that what they did and how they applied the law was improper. [caller] Yes. And before I go, if I wanted to fileI am working on the program you mailing me back, if somebody else wants to do a security agreement on his property, do they have to go through the whole thing like with the indemnity bond and UCC or can they file a security agreement besides that? Am I clear? [Howard] Well, actually, no, youre not clear but let me try to make it clear. If the security agreement is not properly done and properly file it is useless garbage. There is plenty of useless garbage out here on the market for people to buy. Whoever put some of this junk together never studied the law, never understood what the purpose of such a thing was and didnt do it in the proper manner. If it isnt done in the proper manner it will acquire any respect in the court because the court knows what the hell something like that

is supposed to be. Theres an interesting little article that somebody sent me. Homeowner Forecloses on His BankI did it all, the research, the litigation, all myself without the help of a lawyer. The mortgage company was forced to settle before their office was to be sold at public auction. [caller] I saw that but I havent read it to be honest with you.

[Howard] Its a fellow up in Philadelphiaa picture of him here in the article. It doesnt look like hes very old. He might be in his thirties, maybe forties. He beat Goliath. [caller] Thats exactly what were trying to do on them, reverse everything. See, the unlawful detainer they have, its a very, very fast process. Its all on the landlordtenant. [Howard] They are breaking laws in almost everything that government does today whether its through their banking system or anything through the lawyers at all. In some way or another what theyre doing is actually violating some law. The trick is for us to find out what law. In a lot of cases it can be found, as Ive explained before by looking up the criminal code and finding out what criminal act they did in violation of the criminal code and sending a complaint to the attorney generals office for the criminal violations that these people are perpetrating. In a lot of cases, not always, because some of these morons are so stupid that they actually wouldnt understand what you did and wouldnt think it mattered and they might show up in court. But in most cases what we found when we do any of this criminal charge against people they dont show up in the court case against you and your case gets dismissed if you know how to motion the court to do that. All you have to do is verbally make a motion to the court to dismiss for failure to timely prosecute because they didnt show up today and today was the day it was scheduled for them to be here and if they arent here then theyre in default and the case should be dismissed. And in that way you get rid of your cases by filing these kinds of complaints against them for the wrongs that they do. But in civil issues such as what this fellow was up against something to do with the mortgage company. Wells Fargo was doing something that they werent supposed to do and creating a real expensive situation for him against his money by imposing some kind of a requirement that he have some horrendous amount of insurance on his house or something like that and he sued them and they didnt answer because they couldnt. The way he put it together he did it well enough that they could not answer. He showed their improper activity, their breach of the law in the way he did it and they didnt respond and because they didnt respond he got judgment and with the judgment he went to the sheriff and arranged for a sheriffs sale of their property. Yep, these things can be done. The American people have to put an effort into doing it. Like he said, I did all the research and litigation myself without the help of a lawyer, and he put the mortgage company in a position where the property that they operated out of was about to be sold at public auction by the sheriff. And they came to him and settle with him and gave him a bunch of money and withdrew all their force that he have the insurance they way they were originally trying to enforce it so he beat them. Yes, these things work. Yes, you can do this but each and every one of you has to go look up something to do with the law and find out how they breached it. The simplest thing is what I just told Jim that asked me about the breach of trust is that they are breaching their public trust duty whenever they

take private property for government benefit and profit without paying just compensation to you for what theyve taken whether its arresting you and charging you with driving without a license or confiscating your automobile and towing it away because you didnt have the proper license tags on it or threatening to sell your house because you didnt pay the mortgage or because you didnt cut the grass and we sent our government people in there and they cut the grass and the bill is $2000 for cutting the grass. How ridiculously horrendous that is but thats the kind of stuff they do and theyll sell your house at public auction to get their $2000 and theyre very nice if they can sell it for $10,000 even though its worth $100,000 theyll give you the $8000 difference minus the cost of two or three more thousand and the original $2000 that they claim you owe them. Theyre very nice about things like that. Theyre a bunch of damned thieves is what they are. They are stealing the whole value of your property for whatever their penny ante claims are and using the law improperly to do these kinds of things which is a breach of their fiduciary duty because they are not being honest to the law and protecting your property and your liberty in this country as they are supposed to be doing under their trust document which is their constitution. Am I making myself clear with this explanation? Well, each and every case has its own little specific details and specific things that might particularly violate the law. This is why we have to learn to read better, understand the words better, go to a dictionary like I do all the time and look these words up. This is how I can explain a lot of these things that I talk to people about. I go trace the meaning of words all the way back into the ancient Hebrew to find out what they really meant. Not what they tell me it means today but when were dealing in law they apply what it means in their law books so thats where you go. You go to their law books, you look up the definition of their words, you find out what they actually mean and you show that what theyve done using that word and its meaning actually violates some other principle that they were not supposed to violate under the concept of their public trust. For instance, the word, delivery, very interesting term. Theres a little room in the hospital where the pregnant lady is always taken for the child to be birthed. They call it a delivery room. Look up the legal meaning of the word, delivery. Its very, very interesting. It means to turn the property or substance or res of the property either physically or constructivelyconstructively could mean that its written and described on a document, an instrument of some kindover to another for the others control. The birth certificate is a written instrument describing the property of the new born child and by the nurses or doctors or some administrative agent at the hospital who handles this kind of stuff it is turned over to the state government for supposed registration and ultimately ends up being a delivery of the property to the state for their control of the property. No wonder we are not sovereigns as the poor gentleman out there in Nebraska might think he is. He has a birth certificate registered. Hes not a sovereign, he is property of the State, whatever state that birth certificates registered in he is a slave, he is property of the state. They have his property for their control because mommy didnt know what she was doing. She signed the birth certificate application. Mommy didnt know what the hospital people were going to do, that they would turn it over to the state and mommy didnt understand that that registration was going to create an evidence that her newborn little boy or girl or whatever was going to become property of the State. Mommy didnt understand slavery.

[caller] Mr. Howard, on the note that youre speaking about, delivery, I read that two days ago in Blacks Law 4th it said exactly what you said. It was more elaborate in the term but fundamentally it definitely said what you said. Then I went from that to marriage license and as I left marriage license I looked up deeds for land deeds and stuff or property. And its astonishing how from the very point of conception to school to even signing a report card to getting a drivers license, as they said it is the permit of privilege and then on to work and get a house, a car, and so on and so forth. We have literally been deceived and misled because what we read in our regular dictionaries and what we read in a law dictionary are two totally different things. [Howard] Yes, most definitely they are totally different things. This is why you have to realize that education made you stupid. They didnt even tell you to go look up the word in a dictionary, in a common everyday dictionary. They told you what youre supposed to believe the word means which may not even be the proper meaning of the word in the first place much less do they teach us anything about how the legal terminology twists the meaning of that word around to apply to something else. So we definitely lack knowledge of what theyre doing behind the scenes and how they do things. And the only way youre going to gain that knowledge is to put out an effort to look these kinds of things up, to learn it on your own. I have looked up a lot of these things. I try to convey this to people and I am sure that there are wonderful people out here in this religious asshole society who think, oh, he cant be right, they wouldnt do that. Well, fine, I dont care what you think. Its only going to hurt you to not go look it up, to not try to learn on your own. It doesnt hurt me. [caller] They have been so brainwashed and the Lord will take care of me.

[Howard] Just because your parents taught you and its been engrained in you all your life or the church you went to, whatever religion you belong to taught you and its been engrained into you all your life or the cops have told you, the news media has told you the news media tells people that the doctors claim that cigarettes cause all these ailments that people have today. The fact is poor nutrition in the dietary supplies in this country is what causes all these problems, not cigarettes. But you can believe any damned thing you want just because you heard it. I really dont care what you believe. Ive told people before, I gave up all the beliefs that Ive been taught to have in life except one and that one is Ill believe Ill have another drink. Other than that I dont believe anything. . . . [caller] Ralph Winterowd came up with something interesting this week. He was talking about a DOJ casewell, it was an IRS case up in Alaska. Apparently he went to try to get interrogatories with the IRS or depose the IRS or the DOJ and the DOJ said, no. They got a protective order, you cant depose the United States of America and they blocked him from all that, no depositions, no anything. [Howard] Yeah, weve been up against this many times in the past.

[caller]

Oh, ok, thats what I was wondering.

[Howard] As a matter of fact, there is stuff coming out today in these mortgage foreclosures that are answering questions that we put in as much as twenty years ago. We asking the same questions today but were getting answers today. Theyre being forced by the judges because the judges are starting to wake up and realize that something is wrong. Once the judge and his money became endanger then he began to open his eyes and look at things and wonder if the banks are doing the right thing. So were getting better results out of judges today but twenty years ago or more we asked the same kind of questions, wheres the instrument, wheres the beef? Where is the real instrument with the live signature on it? Where is the proof that there was a mortgage? Where are the instruments and were they negotiated, which means put into commerce or were they invested in some way or another thats what negotiate means. And the judge said they dont have to answer that. [caller] I must agree with you, Howard, 100%. All of this did not happen in the last two years. It happened in the last twenty to twenty-five years. [Howard] More than that. In 1933 on, as a matter of fact a law professor at the University of Alabama School of Law wrote a book called The Law of Fraudulent Transactions and in his book he said that there has not been a legitimate loan made in this country since 1933. Everything that goes on is a fraudulent transaction. The transfer of your body to government through birth registration is a fraudulent transaction for money purposes. The registration of your automobile is a fraudulent transaction unless, of course, youre using it in real commerce. They do have the authority to control, tax and regulate commerce. If youre really in commerce, if youre driving some truck that transfers someone elses goods from one location to another then youre in commerce. If youre driving a bus that transfers passengers or an automobile such as a taxicab that transfers passengers from one location to another for a fee that is commerce that they have a right to regulate. They have no right whatsoever to regulate your private automobile that you use to convey yourself from home to a place of work and back home again or to the grocery store or to church if youre stupid enough to go to those kinds of ridiculous places. Thats your business, you do what the hell you want in life. If you think thats wonderful convey yourself to church and listen to the deceptions. Maybe some day some of the deceivers will start recognizing the truth and speaking it out and a few are starting to do this. Some of the religious people are starting to look into whats going on and help to enlighten their congregations a little bit but its only, again, recently like the lady just said, this stuff didnt just start happening in the last two years, its been happening, its just starting to be brought to light. And as I said earlier about the information in that book and when well get to use it and how well well do with it will depend on our Creators intention of when all this stuff is to be exposed and not any sooner. So, apparently it was meant that we were supposed to go through all this fraud and deception and learn a lesson from it for our last day. Before we leave this existence we were to learn a lesson. . . . {03:46:22.605}

[Howard] If theres no substance of reality in the transaction then its a fraudulent transaction. Well, all transactions are done on a piece of paper representing something but they arent the real thing. [caller] Thats the valuable consideration element of the principal tenants of constructive trust contract lawright? Those are good faith valuable consideration, clean hands, so theres no valuable consideration here and theres certainly no full disclosure and good faith. [Howard] The way it is viewed in the courts and under the pretense of law that were operating under is that there is a valuable consideration in the document that describes the property and that, right there, is a fraudulent concept to start with, isnt it, because the piece of paper is worthless. [caller] Well, ok, well, thats the constructive trust contract element wherein the intrinsic monetary economic ownership rights in the private land or property, it is clandestinely transferred without informed consent to the municipal corporationright? [Howard] By the registrationyes.

[caller] And the presumption is that even though it may not be informed consent although that would be their presumption it nevertheless is implied consent on the recording partyrightbecause its presumedlike they say, ignorance of the law is no excuse and if you think youre ignorant go hire a lawyer and then youll be in good hands. [Howard] [caller] Yeah, and youll be twice as ignorant. in jail to go with it.

[Howard] Yeah, you might end up in jail doing what a lawyer told you to do. You got to be careful of that. . . . {05:23:53.000} [caller] I got a hold of an interesting book and it came from Sweden and its by Juri Lina and its called Under the Sign of the Scorpion and its all about the Russian Revolution and some its predecessors, the French Revolution and so forth. Apparently, theyre opening up the history archives in Russia now and theyre telling the Russian people a lot of what actually did happen during those revolutions. Its a very interesting book. www.geocities.com/jyrilina {Nobody knows that Zionism appeared as a Marxist movement, a socialist one Zionism is actually a revolution. Sergei Lezov, scientist at the Soviet Academy of Science, Institute for Scientific Information. Strana Mir magazine (Munich), No. 3 1988, p. 94

The ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism. Jewish Chronicle, 4th April 1919 (London)} {see the following link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-apbkQzhUo } [Howard] Whats really interesting about that is that there is a statement in the Bible that says in the last days all knowledge will return to the people. {apparently, Obama hasnt read that yet}. And, yes, theyre opening up all kinds of books and history of the past and bringing things forward and enlightening the people. So, yes, knowledge is beginning to return to us in all kinds of ways including all of this group of people today that are so interested in herbs and herbal treatments for medical problems and things like that {essentially now illegal in Europe now, however.} This is all ancient knowledge that was here long ago and in recent years weve gone to a drug racket instead of real proper medicine.