T8 B16 Misc Work Papers FDR - Email From Miles Kara To Faith Corson OSD-NII Re Missing Pilot Logs140
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9/11 Document ArchiveMiles Kara
From: Miles Kara [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:03 PM
To: 'Corson, Faith, CTR, OSD-NIT
Cc: 'Dana Hyde'; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Doc req 4-8, 4-9 (U)
Faith
Pilot names, please, and current locations. Are these guys telling me that they don't
maintain personal log books to account for flight hours? Count me as skeptical.
Here is what I know from my work on BTTR. We obtained very specific information from
pilot personal logs that was no where else available. If this becomes too hard to do I
suggest Col Burris from CONR call me directly and he and I can sort out what I believe to
be true and what the pilots are telling you.
FYI, we learned at Andrews Tower that flight strips are held for 15 days unless there is
need to hold them further for investigation. If someone is telling us that they were
shredded, then we need a piece of paper explaining why flight strips for 9/11 were not
held and why they were routinely destroyed even though the SOP allows that.
Faith, I've been in DoD for decades. That and my DoD IG experience tell me that we are
getting convenient answers. I surely hope that is not true.
Miles
----- Original Message -----
From: Corson, Faith, CTR, OSD-NII [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:04 PM
To: Corson, Faith, CTR, OSD-NII; Miles Kara (E-mail)
Cc: Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI; Powers, Brian, Col, OSD-USDI
Subject: RE: Doc req 4-8, 4-9 (U)
UNCLASSIFIED
Miles,
I've been in direct contact with the pilots at HEADS -they are still not sure what
specific data/piece of information you are looking for in DR 4-8 - e.g. flight hours, take
off and landing times? They tell me that AF records show flight times and that "form 781"
(maintenance record) will show info for all AIRCRAFT. Regardless, NEADs does not have this
info - and recommended we would have to contact each squadron directly.
He (one of the pilots there) also tells me that the "line up card" is shredded daily, so
they would not hold those. , ... ...,»,
Are you looking for pilot names, or do you already have that? ""tSK-Gw.
Thanks - if you can help me clarify, we will continue to work through another channel and
get you what you need, vr, Faith
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Corson, Faith, CTR, OSD-NII
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:24 PM
> To: Miles Kara (E-mail)
> Cc: Downs, Pat, Ms, OSD-USDI
> Subject: Doc req 4-8, 4-9 (U)
>
> UNCLASSIFIED
>
> Miles,
>
> Per your request, I have responded back to JCS regarding 4-8 and 4-9.
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> I have clarified that you are looking for both personal pilot logs (4-8) and
> then for 4-9, "Flight Strips."
>
> Thanks
> vr,
> Faith
