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ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THIS TRANSCRIPT: This telepathic channeling has been taken from transcriptions of the
weekly study and meditation meetings of the Rock Creek Research & Development Laboratories and L/L Research. It is offered in
the hope that it may be useful to you. As the Confederation entities always make a point of saying, please use your discrimination
and judgment in assessing this material. If something rings true to you, fine. If something does not resonate, please leave it behind,
for neither we nor those of the Confederation would wish to be a stumbling block for any.
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Saturday Meditation
May 7, 2016

Group question: Spiritual information often

suggests that our spiritual growth is a consequence of
the suffering we go through and that we should not
avoid it by running away, but rather it should be
embraced, and we should always try to bolster our
faith and patience as a catalyst runs its course,
especially as much catalyst as pre-incarnationally
chosen. Another school of thought states that our
experiences are due to our thinking and feeling and
that it is our duty to create better conditions for
ourselves. The implication is that if we dont like an
experience, say, poverty, sickness, etc. we can change
it by concentrated and focused thinking and feeling.
We figure that both positions are probably accurate
but there seems to be something of a contradiction
between the two, and we would like Quo to shed
some light on the subject.*
(Jim channeling)
I am Quo and am grateful to be able to speak
through this instrument and greet you all in love and
in light this day. It is our great privilege to be called
to your group for by this means, speaking to entities
such as yourselves, are we able to provide our service
to the One Creator. We would ask you, as always, to
use your own discrimination as you listen to our
words, and use those words which ring of truth to
you, and leave behind any that do not, for in this
way we will feel free to be able to offer our opinions
without feeling the possibility of infringing upon
your free will, for we are not what you would call the
ultimate authority upon any matter but share that
which has been our experience as we have moved
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along this same spiritual path upon which you find

yourselves this day and all days. Though we may
have moved a bit further than have you, still we walk
the same dusty path with, what you may call the
clay feet.1 We can make mistakes and have done so.
To begin you have asked us whether or not it is
more appropriate to embrace the traumas that come
your way upon this spiritual path and to attempt to
learn from them, rejoicing in them, and moving on
from them having learned what they have to teach.
Or if, perhaps, it is your obligation as a seeker of
truth to bring more harmony into your life, to let
your life exemplify those qualities of the truth, the
peace, the love, and the power of the One Creator.
Or if perhaps there is a third path which is a
blending of the two. My friends, we can tell you that
there is a certain kind of emphasis or primary quality
to the learning of lessons through what you call the
difficulties, and indeed many have programmed
these into their lives for this very purpose. You can
find that there are abilities that are brought forth
from you, [from] the very depths of your being, that
quality of your soul which is so valuable yet
inestimately and seemingly distant from you. These
can be called forth by the necessity of meeting the
challenges that are yours as you move through each
days round of activities, and perhaps discover that
there is a certain loss that you must bear, a certain
problem you must solve, a certain wound that you
1

From Wikipedia: Feet of clay is an expression now

commonly used to refer to a weakness or character flaw,
especially in people of prominence.

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must heal; all of these are the stuff, shall we say, of
your third-density illusion.
You see all about you the opportunity to witness not
only the One Creator who is actively offering you
these opportunities for learning, yet you also see that
there is, perhaps, that which is required of you, that
you do not know whether or not you have within
you to put forth as a means by which to bring
healing where healing is needed, to bring
understanding where difficulty and hurt feelings are
in existence, to do that which seems to make one
uncomfortable. For the disharmonies can be great
within ones mind and heart and even into the soul
of ones own being as you wrestle with the various
means by which difficulties may be offered within
your third-density illusion; and these, as you know,
my friends, are many. Each of you has suffered
greatly at one point or another or perhaps at many
points within your life pattern. Perhaps it has often
seemed to you that there is an abundance of
suffering, and why should there be more suffering?
Why should you have to endure once again what
you felt was completed?
When these patterns move around in the spiral of
endlessness that is your incarnation, into and
through and beyond the third-density illusion, you
may rest assured, my friends, that you have found a
pattern that was put in place previous to the
incarnation and that this pattern has within it the
opportunity for you to be more than you thought
you were; to exhibit those qualities that you were not
that sure you had; to find love where there seems to
be none; to find harmony where there is
disharmony; to find healing of wounds that are
deep; to make clear the communication which has
been stifled and muffled and distorted. Yes, my
friends, there is much to recommend the learning by
the traumatic experience in confronting that
experience, shall we say in your colloquialism, headonnot running from it at all, not attempting to
avoid it at all, welcoming it as a precious treasure
that you will be able to learn from, and to, as you
may say, blossom as the seed that is cracked open
rather violently by the expanding of its own inner
nature, but brings forth the flower that is of great
beauty, the scent that is sweet, giving pleasure to the
eye, purpose to the mind, and a means by which one
may see that there is growth possible in the most
difficult of circumstances.

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However, my friends, this is not the only path to

growth, and not the only means by which you may
approach a situation which seems difficult beyond
measure.
At this time we shall transfer this contact to the one
known as Steve. We are those of Quo.
(Steve channeling)
I am Quo and am with this instrument. We greet
you in the love and in the light of the One Infinite
Creator upon a day that has special meaning to those
in this part of the country 2, and upon a time of year
when there is abroad in the land a rebirthing of all of
the forces of life, finding new ways to express the old
ways of the Infinite Creator.
We would like, at this time, to call your attention to
the character of the experience which you currently
enjoy, which is that it is an opportunity; it is an
occasion for engaging in creative activities that
permit mind, body, and spirit complexes such as
yourselves to recreate themselves and to enter upon
that great adventure that is the creation itself. This
entails an active doing, and doing is essential to the
nature of the kind of experience which you now
enjoy, and in that regard it is to be seen as distinct
from the kind of experience which you enjoy
between incarnations. We have expressed this
difference as the difference between space/time and
time/space. And in time/space which is that portion
of your experience you undergo when you are not
incarnate, you are given ample opportunity to reflect
upon who you are, what you have become, and to
discover intimations of what you wish to be. There
are, in time/space, few limitations upon these
processes of contemplation and self-reflection, but
there are also few opportunities for the realization of
the plan, shall we say, or the preferences that are
beginning to take root in the depths of your being.
For these changes to take place, space/time, which is
what you experience while you are in the incarnate
space, is a useful set of conditions for undergoing the
transformations to which you have learned to aspire.
Now, as a portion of the experience which you now
appreciate, there is a kind of programming in place.
And that programming, we would say, has primarily
to do with the set of limitations which you have set
2

The date of this channeling coincided with the 2016

Kentucky Derby horse race, a festive event which is generally
treated as a true holiday by those local to Louisville.

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yourself and which, coming into this experience,
begins from the moment you are born to attract a
certain kind of experience which you will then have
the honor and the duty to process. We would
suggest to you that it is a significant portion of the
character of the experience which you enjoy while
incarnate to actively engage in the catalyst, in the
response to catalyst, and in the circumstances which
permit you to change the parameters in which
catalyst may be received. So we would commend you
to the activity of engaging with the world around in
such a way that you may transform the world for the
better, even as you seek to transform your response
to the world for the better, and thereby to transform
yourself and that little portion of the being of others
which has joined you in your experience of your
selfhood in this life.
So, to the extent that transformation is the order of
the day, it is not fully and entirely a question merely
of acceptance of the status quo, acceptance of the
catalyst as given. However, there will inevitably be
the need for such acceptance, at least insofar as the
catalyst which you are given is indeed that which
you face. And we find that it is a significant portion
of the failure to process catalyst that the catalyst is
deemed inaccessible from the start, and so that it can
be the case that one resists what is given and this, we
may say, is catalyst gone awry. And yet one may and
does well to, as the poet says, take arms against a sea
3
of troubles and by opposing, end them. For we can
assure you that the point of the catalyst as given is
never simply to suffer it, but rather to engage with it
so that the suffering is, to the extent that it is
necessary, seen not as part of the intent of the
catalyst, but as by-product of the difficult process of
self-transformation that the catalyst is there to
promote. The sense of destiny that arises when you
begin to recognize a kind of pattern in the catalyst
that you experience is an indication of the progress
that you are beginning to make in learning that there
is secret intent impressed within the very fiber of the
3

From Shakespeare's Hamlet, Act III, Scene i:

To be or not to be-that is the question:

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And, by opposing, end them.

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catalyst you receive. And this intent can, when you

reflect upon it in your meditative state, be a clue for
how the catalyst might be successfully processed and
how the catalyst might find its way to future catalyst
that continues your growth upon a desired
trajectory.
The more you are able to discover within even those
situations which give difficulty, even those situations
which tend to elicit from you a rejectiona feeling
of being hurt, a feeling of anger, a feeling of hate
even these we say, can, if allowed to develop into a
deeper sense of love which one does achieve through
acceptance, suggest that the catalyst that has been on
offer is indeed serving its function well. We would
say to you that catalyst that is allowed its play in
such a way that it inspires you to response is catalyst
that is properly received, and you should not despise
your inspiration in the response that you come to in
relation to your catalyst, which can often take the
form of seeking to improve the circumstances of
your life, in seeking to improve the circumstances of
the lives around you, and in seeking to improve the
conditions of the social complex of which you are a
part. All of those activities which reflect the
inspiration to betterment, the inspiration to
expression of love, the inspiration to a resolve to
healall of these are indications of a good and
proper use of catalyst.
Now, it is true that catalyst comes very often in
forms that are harsh. It is true that catalyst comes
very often in forms that do not suggest an immediate
way forward, and that for all the world looks as if it
simply is something about which one can do
nothing, about which there is nothing to do but to
accept what is given and suffer through its givenness. And we will not deny that there are days and
days upon days which will have this aspect in which
the Creation shows a somber face to the seeker, and
that the intrepid seeker can but put one foot in front
of the other, day after laborious day in the quiet faith
that at the end of this dayand if not this day, then
the next, or the nextthere will come a time in
which the sun again will shine, in which the birds
again will sing, in which the heart again will leap up
in joy. In the meantime, there can be the memory of
these experiences; there can be a slowly forming
resolve to allow this memory, this inextinguishable
joy, this ineluctable aspiration, to have a place, even
in those experiences which reflect catalyst at its most
harsh, at its most difficult, at its most confusing.
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If you are confused, that, too, is something upon
which you may reflect, and as surely as the day
follows the night, there is significance lurking even
in the most scattered and confusing kinds of
experience. You might reflect upon the elements at
play within the confusion and you might ask
yourself how each individual element feels to you,
how each individual element feels in relation to
other individual elements, and how the totality of
the experience which you undergo as confusion feels
to you. And even confusion, if that is the feeling
with which you come away, has to it a kind of unity,
has to it a kind of intelligibility. For it is, after all,
this confusion and not another; it is after all, this
pain and not another.
What is it about this pain, you might ask yourself?
What is it about this circumstance in which I have
felt myself to be torn out of my zone of comfort, to
be thrust into a world that seems unwelcoming, to
be faced with other faces glaring back at me in
hostility or judgment or disappointed expectation?
And I, who have few resources apparently at the
ready seem asked to respond in a way that is
appropriate and yet without having a sense of where
that appropriation would lie. Even this situation has
to it an integrity. Even a situation such as this is the
bearer of a secret message. A situation such as this is
catalyst in a form most raw and calls for a response.
One cannot be simply passive in the face of catalyst
but must take it up actively in some way. It is this
catalyst one must decide, or it is that catalyst one
decides. It has this meaning for my life going
forward; it has that meaning for the service I may
offer. That is an active processthat is a process of
taking in, interpreting, and accepting what is given,
but doing so actively. Doing so in such a way that
one feels thereby actuated, that one feels thereby that
one has agency in the process of transformation one
is undergoing.
And so, there is, indeed, a difference between
acceptance and self-activation in relation to catalyst.
But we would suggest they are two sides of a single
process, and that process is the very process you have
incarnated to see through. You have incarnated to
carry forth and you have incarnated to participate in
the furtherance of that process. The more
consciously you are able to participate in relating
yourself to your catalyst, the more that catalyst
begins to resonant to the inner harmonics of your
being, and thereby the more you become author of
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your own catalyst. But catalyst is a subtle thing, my

friends, more subtle than a faint aroma on a summer
breeze. Now you see it, now you feel it, now you get
its scent, and now you dont. And so it is of such a
nature that just when you think you are the master
of that catalyst which is yours to process, you find
that once again you are not; once again, it has left
you bereft of your sense of authority, bereft of your
sense of being in control of your situation, bereft of
your very sense of who you are. And there you are
again, confronting the mystery of the Creation in
the moment, but you are doing so in possession of
the greatest gift the Creation has to offer, which is
the gift of your capacity to be a portion of its selftransformation, its creative happening. And if you
allow that creativity into your process of activating
your own innermost resources, you are closest to the
catalyst that you can possibly become. And so we
find that this is a paradox that does have a
resolution. This paradox of catalyst which seems to
come from outside, but in such a way that it
resonates with something within. It has, as we say, a
resolution, but it is a resolution which ever and anon
will once again unresolve itself and appear to you in
the form of a paradox.
That is the nature of catalyst, my friends, and it is a
very significant portion of the reason you have
incarnated: to undergo catalyst in the strongest
possible sense and to have, as a portion of your inner
resources for dealing with this catalyst, a mere
fraction of your whole beingand a distorted
fraction at thatso that what you are working upon
at any given point in time is something of your
being which you have determined is perhaps not
quite yet in balance. And while it may seem that you
are overbalanced in your reaction to individual
events that catalyze you into response, this too is
greatly informative when you are able to step back
from it and to reflect upon it and to begin a process
of assimilating both the event and your response to
that event into a sense of the wholeness of your life
experience. That wholeness of life experience is
something in which you may dwell in the meditative
state, in which you may dwell when you gather
together in events such as this with others and comingle your meditative states in a way that provides
healing catalyst for all here present. You offer us
similar catalyst, though this may not be known to
you, and it is a great gift to us when you invite us to
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group seeking, for it catalyzes our growth as well as
your own. We are grateful to you, my friends.
We are those of Quo, and we would at this time
leave this instrument in the love and in the light of
the One Infinite Creator and return to the one
known as Jim to ask if there are further questions
upon your minds. I am Quo. Adonai, adonai,
adonai.
(Jim channeling)
I am Quo and am once again with this instrument.
We are happy to be able to offer ourselves in the
attempt to speak to any further queries which those
present may have for us. Is there a query at this time?
Gary: Quo, Todd asks: When loved ones of ours
have passed on, is it possible for them to hear our
thoughts and sense our feelings for them? For
example, if we visit the grave of a grandparent or
parent and we focus our thoughts and feelings upon
them, if we then 'talk' to them in our mind, is there
any chance they will receive our messages of love?
Q'uo: I am Quo and am aware of your query, my
brother. It is indeed so that those who have made
their transition from the third-density illusion into
the world of the spirit remain in contact with those
they have left behind, for those times which, as you
have said, there is a concern, a worry, a sense of love
wishing to be communicated, or the like, for their
ties are with entities of their own kind, not only
within the world of the third-density illusion, but
within the world of the spirit where there are also
families and grouping of entities that move in
harmony together, learning the various lessons of
this density in which the choice is made to serve
others or the self. If one is concerned to make such a
contact, simply speaking from the heart, perhaps in a
place familiar to both, or significant to both, is a
good means by which to establish this contact.
Is there another query, my brother?
Gary: George asks: Can Quo comment on the
topic of addiction to pornography. It is a problem
that I and many others of my generation struggle
with.
Q'uo: I am Quo and am aware of your query, my
brother. Within your society there is what might be
called a mass of mixed messages concerning this very
basic level of experience. The red ray energy center is
that which is concerned with both the survival of the
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entity and with the sexual activities of the entity

the reproduction and the raising of the young, shall
we say. Within your culture the sexual activities are
also used most frequently in the advertising realms,
seeking to sell whatever the product might be by the
expression and experience of the sexual activities.
The entities that are aware of such experiences,
observing the programming of the parents, shall we
say, that activity of a sexual nature is to be avoided,
is to be put off, is to be ignored because it has a
certain stigma attached to it, shall we say, often
causes those who have a natural curiosity to be
distorted in their own view of this activity. For the
opportunity to work with this distortion we would
recommend the meditative state and also the, shall
we say, gaining of information of a healthy nature
from those sources who provide such information,
for there are many within your culture who have a
very healthy view of such activities and who have
shared them in the form of videos, in the form of
books, in the form of lectures. We would suggest the
informing of the mind, and the informing of the
heart and soul of the healthy nature of such activities
so that there is no need to engage in the secret
viewing of sordid representations of these very
healthy and necessary experiences.
Is there a further query, my brother?
Gary: Not from me, thank you Quo.
Q'uo: I am Quo. Is there a further query from
anyone within this circle of seeking today?
(long pause)
I am Quo and we would again offer the chance for a
final query at this time.
C: I have a question. A number of the individuals
that I work with are labeled in our culture as antisocial personalities, are called sociopaths, and
theyre often regarded as having no conscience and
that there isnt much to be done with them as far as
rehabilitation and making them productive members
of our society. And I wonder if you could comment
at all on this classification of people, and if it reflects
any spiritual principle, if its service-to-self
individuals, or anything else?
Q'uo: I am Quo and am aware of your query, my
sister. The situation which you describe is one quite
difficult to respond to in a sense which might bring
clarity to a situation that is most muddled within the

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mind/body/spirit complex of such an entity as that
which you describe as the sociopath. We are aware
that there are entities who have this separation of self
all about them in the sense of the negatively oriented
entity, and in many cases this is the situation for
such a sociopathic entity. There is the desire to be of
dominance and control of those about one.
However, we find in most instances, there is, shall
we say, a mental configuration that is constructed in
order that a certain opportunity be presented to the
entity to deal with the reactions of those about one,
in a sense which would be, shall we say, supported in
a nature which is strong in its reliance upon
discipline, the acceptance of certain boundaries, and
the expression of the self in a manner which does not
infringe upon the free will of others. There is the
difficulty with such an entity in, shall we say,
observing these requirements for its own treatment,
as you may call it.
We find that it is most often helpful for such an
entity to have a relationship with one other entity
that is of a bonded nature, that kind of nature which
such entities usually are not able to experience in the
earlier years, or indeed throughout the entire
incarnation. The ability to reveal oneself in full to
another in the honest representation of the
emotions, the thoughts, and the desires, is what is
often helpful to such an entity. And yet when this
entity is in the situation in which an other-self
approaches it in this manner, without the ability to
observe the previous necessity of boundaries, of
clarity, and so forth, we find that oftentimes the
entity described as a sociopath will take advantage of
the situation and further express its own sociopathic
nature upon the one seeking to serve it. Thus we
find that the entity expressing these qualities is
oftentimes looking for the overall, shall we say,
corralling or dividing itself from others so that it
must be in the institution and experience the
treatment of the self as being so far out of bounds
that it must be able to redefine itself, or exist within
the narrow boundaries of the institutionalized
situation. We are sorry not to be able to offer more
concrete examples or how such an entity may be
approached in a loving manner, but entities program
such experiences in order to see how they may exist
without that quality which you would call love, and
how they will be able to bring forth other qualities
within themselves that may perhaps compensate in
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Is there a further query, my sister, upon this topic?

C: No, that is very, very helpful. Thank you so
much.
Q'uo: We are those of Quo and we are grateful to
you as well, my sister. We shall offer a final-final
query to those who may be hesitant to query.
Steve: Thank you Quo, thank you.
Q'uo: We are those of Quo and we are most
grateful to each of you my friends. As we mentioned
at the outset of this meeting, we are able to provide
our services only because you invite us to do so.
Without your invitation, we would have no
beingness within this circle of seeking and no
opportunity to serve the One Creator. We are aware
that each within the circle has a great many concerns
that are heavy upon the mind, perhaps heavy as well
upon the heart. We would remind each of you that
you are much more than you believe you are, that
when you call upon the spirit of the Holy Spirit, the
One Creator, upon that entity known as the Son,
Jesus the Christ, whatever your preference might be,
there is aid available, that sustenance may be given
within your meditative state, within your
contemplative state, within your prayer-filled state.
Ask for this assistance; ask and ye shall receive.
Again, we thank you, my friends. We are known to
you as those of Quo. At this time we shall take our
leave of this instrument and of this group, leaving all
as we have found you in love and in light, for there
is nothing but love and light, my friends, in truth.
We are those of Quo, Adonai, adonai vasu borragus.
*Thanks to Scott T. for sending in this question.