Hearing: The Peace Corps
Hearing: The Peace Corps
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HEARING
BEFORE THE
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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
JOSEPH R. BIDEN, JR., Delaware, Chairman
PAUL S. SARBANES, Maryland JESSE HELMS, North Carolina
CHRISTOPHER J. DODD, Connecticut RICHARD G. LUGAR, Indiana
JOHN F. KERRY, Massachusetts CHUCK HAGEL, Nebraska
RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin GORDON H. SMITH, Oregon
PAUL D. WELLSTONE, Minnesota BILL FRIST, Tennessee
BARBARA BOXER, California LINCOLN D. CHAFEE, Rhode Island
ROBERT G. TORRICELLI, New Jersey GEORGE ALLEN, Virginia
BILL NELSON, Florida SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas
JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, West Virginia MICHAEL B. ENZI, Wyoming
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CONTENTS
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Coyne, John, Peace Corps volunteer in Ethiopia/Eritrea (1962-1964), New
York City Regional Manager (1994-2000), co-founder, the Peace Corps
Fund, Pelham, NY ............................................................................................... 42
Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 43
Ferris, Barbara A., Peace Corps volunteer in Morocco (1980-1982); Women
in Development Coordinator (1987-1993), co-founder, the Peace Corps Fund,
Washington, DC ................................................................................................... 38
Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 40
Schneider, Mark, former Director, the Peace Corps; vice president, Inter-
national Crisis Group, Washington, DC ............................................................. 21
Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 25
Shays, Hon. Christopher, U.S. Representative from the 4th Congressional
District of Connecticut ......................................................................................... 4
Smith, Dane, Peace Corps volunteer in Ethiopia (1963-1965); president, Na-
tional Peace Corps Association, Washington, DC .............................................. 33
Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 36
Vasquez, Hon. Gaddi H., Director, the Peace Corps, Washington, DC ............... 5
Prepared statement .......................................................................................... 8
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THE PEACE CORPS
U.S. SENATE,
SUBCOMMITTEE ON WESTERN HEMISPHERE,
PEACE CORPS, AND NARCOTICS AFFAIRS,
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,
Washington, DC.
The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:38 p.m., in room
SD419, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Christopher J. Dodd
(chairman of the subcommittee), presiding.
Present: Senators Dodd and Chafee.
Senator DODD. Good afternoon. And I thank you. I apologize for
starting a little bit late, but we had a vote that began just around
2:30. And so rather than come over and start early and then have
to recess very quickly, I decided to wait a couple minutes.
I believe my colleague from Rhode Island, Senator Chafee, who
is the ranking member of this subcommittee, will be joining us at
some point. And other members may come in and come out. And
I thank them for their attention and support.
I am going to share with you some opening comments and re-
marks. I note the presence in the audience of my colleague from
Connecticut, Congressman Shays. And hiding out in the back of the
room, I would point out.
Congressman, you are more than welcome to join us up here on
the dais. I would not want you to get any exaggerated thoughts
about leaving the House, but you are welcome here to join us on
the dais if you would like to and be part of the hearing.
This is a wonderful friend and colleague, a former Peace Corps
volunteer himself, and very, very active and interested in the sub-
ject matter. I know it is uncharacteristic of Senators to invite
House Members to share in their
Congressman SHAYS. What side do I sit on, sir?
Senator DODD. Well, I would kind of like you on this side. But
if you want to sit on this sideanywhere you would like to be
Congressman SHAYS. Thank you.
Senator DODD [continuing]. We are more than happy. And thank
you for doing so.
Congressman SHAYS. Thank you.
Senator DODD. Thank you for doing so.
Well, today the Foreign Relations Subcommittee on the Western
Hemisphere, Peace Corps, and Narcotics Affairs convenes to receive
testimony on the future of the Peace Corps, and specifically on leg-
islation that I have introduced, along with Senator Gordon Smith,
Senators Kennedy, Toricelli, and several other members, to define
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the Peace Corps charter so that we are better able to meet the
challenges the Peace Corps will face in the coming years.
A companion bill has also been introduced in the House by Sam
Farr, Mark Udall, and others. I want to thank Congressman Farr
and Congressman Udall as well as members of the return Peace
Corps community for working with us to craft the bill that is the
subject of todays hearing. I look forward during the course of the
hearing today to receiving comments on the legislation and to dis-
cussing ways in which we can begin to address the needs and chal-
lenges of today and tomorrows Peace Corps so that it can continue
to be as relevant in the 21st century as it was in the latter part
of the 20th century.
As we all know, some 41 years ago, President John Kennedy
made public his vision for the future of an American volunteer
service. He spoke of a corps of committed and idealistic young vol-
unteers, the Peace Corps, who would travel all over the world pro-
moting world peace and friendship. He saw public service as an
ideal that would transcend political rhetoric.
Volunteers were not to reflect particular Republican or Demo-
cratic ideologies, but rather their service was to be a manifestation
of American values, values held in common by all of us as Amer-
ican citizens. The goal of this new endeavor was to support the de-
velopment and betterment of the countries and communities where
the Peace Corps volunteers served to foster a greater under-
standing of American values and culture abroad and to likewise
foster a greater appreciation of other peoples cultures on the part
of Americans.
Four decades later, and more than 165,000 Americans have vol-
unteered to serve in the Peace Corps and worked with diligence
and compassion to achieve the very aims outlined some 41 years
ago. As remarkable as the success of the Peace Corps has been and
as important a symbol and example it is of public service in the
aftermath of the tragic events on American soil on September 11,
it has become something more. It has become a necessity.
The terrorist attacks of last September have shown us that the
world has become a much smaller place. The United States can no
longer afford to neglect certain countries or certain parts of the
world. We need to find ways to help developing countries to meet
their basic needs, and we need to do so now.
We especially need to act in places where there are people who
are unfamiliar or hostile to American values. Now more than ever
the Peace Corps volunteers play a pivotal role in helping to achieve
a greater understanding of America abroad, especially in predomi-
nantly Muslim nations. If we are to expand the reach of the Peace
Corps, to send our volunteers into more countries, then we must
provide the Peace Corps with adequate resources to safely and ef-
fectively pursue these objectives.
I believe that the legislation that we have introduced last week,
the Peace Corps Charter for the 21st Century Act, provides a
framework for the Peace Corps to maintain its relevance in the
context of the new challenges it confronts and authorizes sufficient
funding to implement that framework, including expanding the
number of volunteers, as called for by President Bush.
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Senator DODD. Do not try to amend this bill with any campaign
finance reform.
Congressman SHAYS. Then-Senator Kennedy, John Kennedy,
when he was debating President Nixon, he captivated me by his
in eighth grade, the opportunity to potentially serve in another
country and walk in the paths that people would walk in, travel
their roads, drink their water, eat their food, dress in their clothes,
live in their houses, speak their language, you know, just get to un-
derstand and appreciate their culture. And I think that we both
learned that as much as we thought people were different, there
was so much that united us, so many similarities between people
of all cultures. And for me, the Peace Corps was the greatest expe-
rience in my life. And I came here truly not to participate here, but
just to understand this billbecause I have some questions. And
I want to understand the motivation and also frankly to support
the Director of the Peace Corps, because I feel that he is working
really hard to try to make this a very humane and magnificent or-
ganization. And I think all Peace Corps volunteers rally around
your effort to do that.
And so I thank you.
Senator DODD. Thank you very much, Congressman.
Now I am going to invite Mr. Gaddi Vasquez, who is the Director
of the Peace Corps. Gaddi, we welcome you to the committee. And
that chair right in front of you is your chair.
I said toin fact last week there were some wonderful cere-
monies. I did not attend all of them. But the reception on Thursday
night and a program at Constitution Hall on Friday morning where
Sargent Shriver came in and mesmerized the entire audience, as
apparently he did on Friday night or Saturday, arriving on a Har-
ley Davidson. I was thinking they gave me a Honda 50 when I was
a volunteer. I would have appreciated a Harley Davidson back in
those days.
But I said it then and I will say it here publicly for this record,
Gaddi, there were people who raised a lot of concerns when the
President nominated you for this job. I supported you. And you
have proven to be a good Director. You have only been on the job
a relatively short amount of time, but I like the fact that you are
getting out, you have visited as many different countries as you
have, you are meeting with all the return volunteer groups in the
country, listening to them, which I think is very, very important.
And so I commend you for the work you have done. It has been
good. And we look forward to working with you and are anxious to
receive your testimony.
I will say to you and to the other panelists who will be appearing
shortly that all of your statements in full will be included in the
record and supporting data, materials you may think are important
we will include as well as part of this record.
And so with that, the floor is yours, Mr. Vasquez.
STATEMENT OF HON. GADDI H. VASQUEZ, DIRECTOR, THE
PEACE CORPS, WASHINGTON, DC
Mr. VASQUEZ. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate this oppor-
tunity. And I also want to thank Congressman Shays for his com-
ments.
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Mr. Chairman, I also want to thank you very much for your con-
tinued support and interest in the work of the Peace Corps. As a
former volunteer, you certainly have a very unique perspective of
Peace Corps service. And I thank you for all that you have done
on behalf of the Peace Corps and the volunteers who have served
over the 41-year history of this great organization.
As you have mentioned, this past weekend, the National Peace
Corps Association hosted a gathering of our RPCVs, return Peace
Corps volunteers, their families, their friends, to celebrate that an-
niversary. These are exciting times for the Peace Corps as we em-
bark on what could really be one of the most significant areas of
expansion for the Peace Corps in many decades.
President Bush, as has been referenced, has called for a doubling
of the Peace Corps. And we have been mapping out organizational
plans subject to appropriations by Congress. But I can report to
you, Mr. Chairman, that the American public is responding to that
call. The interest in serving has seen an upward trend since Presi-
dent Bush called on Americans to engage in community and public
service.
From January to the present, we have seen an almost 17 percent
increase in applications over the same period last year. Requests
for applications are up almost 59 percent over last year. So it is
fair to say that the Presidents message, coupled with our recruit-
ment strategies, are having some results.
We have also been using technology to advance and expedite the
application process. I know that those who have served in the
Peace Corps would appreciate the fact that now you have online ac-
cessibility to tracking your application. And for those who have not
been, it is maybe not too important. But for those that have, that
is a major, major step forward in order to expedite our process.
And as the new director of the Peace Corps, I have made many,
many efforts and have engaged in visitations with staff, with vol-
unteers, and return Peace Corps volunteers, because that is a very
high priority. And based on their input and their unique perspec-
tive, I have initiated a number of efforts at the Peace Corps.
We are moving aggressively to become more agile and responsive
to the needs of the applicants, the trainees, and volunteers. And we
are enhancing our safety and security functions.
As Peace Corps Director, I have had the privilege of visiting 7
countries thus far, including Afghanistan, Pakistan, China, Peru,
Senegal, Mauritania, and Morocco. In Peru I had the privilege of
signing the bilateral agreement that will result in our reentry to
Peru after a 27-year absence. And in addition, on June 21, 16 vol-
unteers arrived in East Timor, the first new country of the 21st
century.
So, Mr. Chairman, I believe that we are well positioned to imple-
ment a smart growth plan by entering new countries, optimizing
the number of volunteers in existing countries, expanding our re-
cruitment efforts to create greater diversity in the Peace Corps, re-
cruiting more seniors to serve in the Peace Corpsand, I might
add, about 7 percent of our current volunteers are 50 and over
and using technology and advanced communications
Senator DODD. We still consider that very young.
Mr. VASQUEZ. Yes, sir. It is very young.
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And, just as President Kennedy challenged a new generation during the establish-
ment of the Peace Corps in 1961 to join . . . a grand and global alliance . . . to
fight the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war . . . To those
people in the huts and villages across the globe struggling to break the bonds of
mass misery, he said, we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves.
Kennedy went on to note that, . . . the life will not be easy, it will be rich and
satisfying. For every young American who participates in the Peace Corpswho
works in a foreign landwill know that he or she is sharing in the great common
task of bringing to man that decent way of life which is the foundation of freedom
and a condition of peace.
TRAVEL TO PAST AND PRESENT PEACE CORPS COUNTRIES
In the spirit of President Kennedys remarks, and inspired by the challenge from
President Bush, in early March, I traveled to the counties of Afghanistan and Paki-
stan where I met with government officials to discuss Peace Corps programs and
future opportunities that may exist for our Volunteers. In Afghanistan, in par-
ticular, I met with the Peace Corps assessment team members who were conducting
programming and security assessments, along with embassy officials, to determine
if conditions would support the sending of our agencys Crisis Corps Volunteers. I
traveled to China, and had an incredible visitwith Helen Raffel a Peace Corps vol-
unteer who, at age 74, teaches environmental science and English at Sichuan Uni-
versity in the Chengdu province of China. Her enthusiasm, vigor, and accomplish-
ments were truly amazing and offered many insights into the needs of these na-
tions. Peace Corps has the ability to provide trained men and women to meet the
emerging needs of their respective peoples, but within our grasp is the ability to
touch an entire generation of people throughout the world.
I traveled to Peru during President Bushs visit with President Alejandro Toledo,
and I had the privilege of signing a bilateral agreement with the government of
Peru. This agreement will allow Peace Corps volunteers to return to Peru for the
first time in more than 27 years. As a young man, President Toledo was taught by
Peace Corps Volunteers who lived in his family home. The Volunteers made a last-
ing impact on his life and he remains a strong advocate of the Peace Corps today.
In June, I visited Peace Corps programs in Senegal, Mauritania and Morocco.
While in the city of Azib, Morocco, I visited an environmental Volunteer and the
Womens Center where she works. The Volunteer is providing training and assist-
ance to expand the sales of their locally produced crafts.
BUDGET REQUEST
Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, I report to you today, that the
future of the Peace Corps is brighter than ever and we are setting into motion plans
that will lead the agency into the 21st Century and increase our efforts around the
world. This Administration is committed to the Peace Corps and the President has
demonstrated his support by requesting an increase in our budget from $275 million
in FY 02 to $320 million in FY 03. We believe that the budget request will enable
us to increase the number of Volunteers while at the same time ensure that the
quality of our Volunteers and the Volunteer experience remain high. We advocate
fill funding, which we believe is warranted.
SAFETY AND SECURITY
Safety and security remains a top priority for the Peace Corps particularly in the
aftermath of September 11th. Meeting the Presidents initiative to double the num-
ber of Peace Corps volunteers over the next five years is dependent on the Peace
Corps providing a safe and secure environment during each Volunteers term of serv-
ice. A number of important initiatives are now underway. These initiatives not only
strengthen the safety and security training for our Volunteers, but also galvanize
the security infrastructure at posts around the globe.
These new initiatives include:
The implementation and compliance ofnew procedures for Volunteer/Trainee
Safety and Security (Manual Section 270) to measure and monitor posts compli-
ance with important safety and security requirements;
The hiring of over 40 new personnel in the field and at headquarters in security
related positions;
The addition of one full day of safety and security training during staging for
new trainees;
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The establishment of regular safety and security staff training on a two-year
cycle;
An enhancement of the safety and security information message that a poten-
tial applicant receives from his or her first contact with Peace Corpsduring
recruitment and throughout the application process; and
The ready availability of a library of safety and security information on the
Peace Corps Intranet.
STRATEGIC PLAN TO DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEERS
Following President Bushs State of the Union Address when be called for the
doubling of Peace Corps Volunteers, we had an immediate 300 percent increase in
traffic to the Web site in the first 48 hours. Since January, interest in the Peace
Corps remains high. Traffic to the Web site is 89 percent higher than the same pe-
riod of time last year, inquiriesrequests to our offices for an applicationare up
39 percent over last year and the number of applications submitted both online and
on paper total 4,701, a 17 percent increase over this same period of time last year.
We received approximately 94,500 inquiries last year resulting in 8,897 applica-
tions, which produced 3,166 trainees in addition to those who were serving in the
field. Our standards remain high as to the suitability requirements and technical
skills required of the Peace Corps assignments. Currently, we have a number of
task forces to examine our recruitment and selection process, our internal proc-
essing of applications and to identify and examine barriers and obstacles to service.
Although there are more and more Volunteers who have advanced degrees and
specialized technical skills who are joining the Peace Corps, the vast majority are
people with solid generalist backgrounds with lots of leadership and community
service experience. Volunteers serve in a broad range of programs. Such as:
Education
Health and HIV/AIDS
Environment
Agriculture
Business Development
Information and Communication Technology
Recruiting is one of our key challenges and in responding to the Presidents chal-
lenge to increase the number of Volunteers, our agency has recently delivered to
Congress our Fiscal Year 2003 Congressional Budget Presentation, which outlines
our eleven goals to accomplish this effort.
The first goal is to reacquaint the American people with the mission of the Peace
Corpsby introducing the value of Peace Corps service to a broader audience, par-
ticularly school children, seniors and those baby boomers who are nearing retire-
ment, we bring the visibility of the work of the Volunteers to a new audience of po-
tential Volunteers.
Second, the agency will seek to expand recruitment efforts and increase diversity
of our Volunteer population. This means that recruitment efforts will grow beyond
college campuses. Just as the face of America has changed over the past 40 years,
so will our recruitment efforts so that we reach out to all people regardless of faith,
married couples and the disabled, seniors and retirees, and the scores of men and
women who are currently in the work force or between jobs and looking to make
a meaningfull contribution to the United States.
Third, efforts will be made to optimize the number of Volunteers and staff cur-
rently working in each country. The Peace Corps will continue to seek advice from
country directors about possibilities for growth and the placement of additional Vol-
unteers in new programs. We believe that incremental growth in a number of coun-
tries will increase the number of Volunteers worldwide.
Fourth, the Peace Corps will expand programs into new countries. I am pleased
to announce that just last week, we sent 19 eager and enthusiastic Volunteers to
the new nation of East Timor. It is thrilling to know that these Volunteers, after
traveling over 36 hours, will be the first Americans that many people of this island
nation will see. We will also be re-opening the Peru program this August. We have
been approached by a large number of representatives from the governments of
countries who are anxious to have Peace Corps return to their country. We are also
eager to forge new alliances with countries that have never had Peace Corps Volun-
teers.
Fifth, we are going to explore new ideas such as expanding current alliances with
organizations such as the American Red Cross and the AOL Time Warner Founda-
tion, as well as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. We are also work-
ing with the RPCV community on how to make best use of their collective talents.
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The 165,000 RPCVs are a resource that we intend to maximize both in their impor-
tant work with Third Goal activities and in the recruitment of potential new Volun-
teers.
Sixth, Peace Corps plans to improve the Volunteer delivery process. Nearly 60 per-
cent of current applications are now using the online application, which decreases
considerably the Volunteer delivery timetable. However, we have more work to do
to shorten the time between the first contact with a potential applicant and the time
that the applicant departs to begin training.
Seventh, we plan to expand and broaden the Crisis Corps program, which mobi-
lizes returned Volunteers to respond to natural disasters throughout the world on
a short-term basis. To date, more than 450 Crisis Corps Volunteers have served in
30 countries. Currently, Crisis Corps Volunteers work in eight countries in Africa
on HIV/AIDS-related activities.
Eighth, we are going to review the participation of the Peace Corps in the United
Nations Volunteer program. This program was developed in 1971 by the United Na-
tions General Assembly and is administered by the United Nations Development
Program. There are approximately 50 United States citizens currendy serving in
two-year UNV assignments supported by Peace Corps.
Ninth, I intend to strengthen and expand the scope of the Peace Corps domestic
programs that are designed to help educate Americans about other countries. The
Volunteers years of experience working and living in cross-cultural situations pre-
sents a treasure trove of information that must be preserved and made available
to the American public. Development of publications and placing these materials on-
line will be useful to domestic and international educators, students, domestic vol-
unteer organizations, and people who volunteer in their home communities. Exam-
ples of our publications include: Culture Matters: The Peace Corps Cross-Cultured
Workbook and Insights From the Field: Understanding Geography, Culture and
Service.
Tenth, we intend to continue to provide high-quality programming and training
support to our overseas staff and Volunteers. Building on our agencys existing
strength in teaching Volunteers to speak new languages, the Peace Corps will re-
assess and redesign our training programs. We are looking at additional training
opportunities prior to departure to ensure that Volunteers are prepared to under-
take increasingly sophisticated project activities in complex environments with dif-
ficult-to-learn languages.
Our eleventh goal is to place a special emphasis on the use of world class tech-
nology to communicate and share knowledge to achieve improvements in overseas
communications and connectivity around the globe. In August 2000, Peace Corps
headquarters completed its migration from a Macintosh-based to a Windows-based
computing platform. The Peace Corps also recently redesigned its Web site
(www.peacecorps.gov) and was nominated by the International Academy of Digital
Arts and Sciences for their prestigious Webby award. The Peace Corps was very
pleased to have been nominated among such notable organizations as Amazon.com,
Google.com and the United States Army.
THE PEACE CORPS CHARTER FOR THE 21ST CENTURY ACT
Collectively, we are all at the beginning stages of reviewing the legislation just
introduced at the end of last week. While I have not had sufficient time to thor-
oughly examine the specifics of the proposal, one of the major strengths of the Peace
Corps Act is that it is a broad authorization, which has over the years, given ample
opportunity for the agency to maintain its independence and its effectiveness. Con-
gress set forth broad objectives, and let the Executive Branch, in consultation with
the host government or its peoples and Congress, establish programs that meet the
individual needs of each country. Few agencies have been so successfully and effi-
ciently managed over such a long period. In addition to its traditional Volunteer pro-
grams, this broad authority has enabled the Peace Corps to launch such successful
initiatives as the Paul D. Coverdell World Wise Schools Program and the Crisis
Corps. These accomplishments were possible because of the flexibility under the
Peace Corps Act.
Our effectiveness in an era of continued growth and opportunity requires the
flexibility to manage a decision-making process that best serves the agency and,
most importantly, the Volunteers. While there are a number of initiatives and pro-
grams that we have undertaken at the Peace Corps; several stand out as prime ex-
amples of our ongoing efforts to build the Peace Corps for the 21st Century.
First, we consider the RPCV community to be the most underutilized resource we
have. That is why I have made it my highest priority to meet with RPCVs at every
opportunity in the U.S. and abroad. As I stated earlier, I believe they are one of
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our best resources for recruitment. These RPCVs have first hand experience in the
field and can help us to capture the imagination of those interested in international
volunteer service. I have also been working with Dane Smith, President of the Na-
tional Peace Corps Association (NPCA), to design a strategy to expand the role for
RPCVs and former Peace Corps staff in America.
Peace Corps has been in countries with predominantly Muslim populations since
the program began. Currently, 23 percent of Volunteers are serving in countries
with predominantly Muslim populations, while two-thirds of potential new country
entries are predominantly Muslim countries. From Senegal to Kazakhstan, the
Peace Corps mission in these regions has become increasingly important. Host com-
munities are exposed to positive and personal images of America and returning Vol-
unteers share their new understanding of different cultures with friends and family
in the United States.
The Peace Corps continues to be actively engaged in activities addressing HIV/
AIDS. Fightirg the ravages of this disease continues to be paramount to the lives
of people across the globe, and to this agency. Volunteers who serve in Africare-
gardless of their program sectorare trained to provide HIV/AIDS prevention and
education as part of their duties. This year we are re-entering Botswana and Swazi-
land, exclusively to address the HIV/AIDS epidemic in those countries. In June of
2000, the original HIV/AIDS Initiative was greatly strengthened with additional
funding from USAID and grants from the Gates and Packard Foundations. In the
future, we anticipate a further expansion of HIV/AIDS programs outside of the Afri-
ca region.
CONCLUSION
The Peace Corps has a clear mission that has served the agency well for the past
41 years. The strategy outlined above is our blueprint as we set out to double the
number of Peace Corps Volunteers over the next five years, heighten the visibility
of the work of the Volunteers, and create a renewed worldwide interest in inter-
national volunteer service. Our FY 2003 budget request of $320 million will also
support the enhancements to the safety and security of our Volunteers and permit
the Peace Corps to open new programs and, at the proper time, re-open currently
suspended programs with dedicated Volunteers.
In conclusion, I am grateful to you and members of the Committee for your con-
tinued support of the Peace Corps mission. September 11th is a grim reminder that
the work of past, present, and future Volunteers is more critical than ever. I believe
that the Peace Corps is well positioned to achieve expansion and build upon the suc-
cesses of the past 41 years.
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are and what we do, but also managing it, administering the actual
recruitment efforts in terms of accounting, in terms of accessing, in
terms of screening, in terms of approval, in terms of placement,
and obviously the deployment of volunteers in the countries in
which we serve.
So that has not changed. That remains very much intact. It is
true that if you go to the USA Freedom Corps Web site, it allows
you the opportunity, if I am sitting out in Nebraska somewhere
trying to figure out how I respond to President Bushs call to public
serviceis it Crisis Corps that is for me? Is it Peace Corps? I have
an opportunity then to go off of that USA Freedom Corps Web site
and link to the Peace Corps Web site and in turn then identify
what opportunities may exist for me.
So I think it facilitates information, but the USA Freedom Corps
office also facilitates some coordination to ensure that we are doing
what we can do to create those opportunities for Americans to
serve.
Senator DODD. Well, if that is going to be the role, I do not find
anything on its face that is troublesome about that. But obviously,
we all are going to be watching it.
Mr. VASQUEZ. Certainly.
Senator DODD. I understandand you and I have talked about
thisthere have been times over the 41 years when others have
sought to sort of deprive the Peace Corps of its unique historic,
independent role. And so we are somewhat sensitive to the subject
matter because we have been down the path before. And it took a
long time to undo the deprival of independence of the Peace Corps.
So keep your eye on this one very carefully
Mr. VASQUEZ. Certainly, Mr. Chairman.
Senator DODD [continuing]. Mr. Director. It is one where obvi-
ously people up here are going to be watching it carefully. But we
are sort of calling on you to keep an eye on it as well.
Mr. VASQUEZ. Certainly.
Senator DODD. Let me ask you about the budget submissions, if
I can. According to the fiscal year 2003 Peace Corps budget submis-
sion, the administration is projecting budget increases for the next
4 years to coincide with the Presidents proposal to double the
number of volunteers. I wonder how you develop those numbers.
And does it include additional funding to expand headquarters to
better manage the growth of the organization, the point I tried to
make in here, the quality versus quantity issue, which is some-
thing that many of us are very, very concerned about?
Mr. VASQUEZ. Certainly. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of
all, let me say that I am truly committed to the principle that we
will not compromise the quality of the Peace Corps volunteer expe-
rience. I think it is critically important on a number of fronts. And
I will speak to the budget specifically, but if I may for just a mo-
ment talk about the philosophy that we are trying to exercise here.
The philosophy we are trying to exercise is that we need to pro-
tect the core values of the Peace Corps. And one of the core values
is providing good jobs and a good opportunity for Americans to go
overseas and to serve in the Peace Corps, to make a contribution
in country, but also to come back with the experience of having
served and to hopefully then participate in the third goal of the
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Peace Corps, which you are more familiar with, which is to stay in-
volved through the National Peace Corps Association, the return
Peace Corps volunteer community.
One of the examples that I give to you of that commitment is
that I have had a personal hand in the selection of 20 country di-
rectors since I have arrived at the Peace Corps. And 15 of those
20 are return Peace Corps volunteers, because they bring a unique
perspective to the management and administration they can offer
in country.
That is very, very important because the country director plays
a major role in helping us to find what are those valuable jobs,
what are those opportunities, so when a volunteer comes in a coun-
try that they will be attached, affiliated with a responsibility and
a program that is meaningful.
So to that end, we have sought information from our countries,
our country directors. And that is why the quality of the country
director is important. We have asked staff and headquarters to give
us a foretaste and analysis of what it would take to achieve the
goals that have been set out and do so in an integrated way so that
the infrastructure grows incrementally with the growth of Peace
Corps volunteers.
So we are assessing what it would take to recruit, what it would
take for medical services; what it would take both at headquarters,
in our regional offices in terms of recruitment, to get to those goals;
as well as what it would cost to be able to finance the operations
in country.
Senator DODD. So you areI mean, this is, the issue of making
sure we have the infrastructure to support these increases is crit-
ical.
Mr. VASQUEZ. Absolutely.
Senator DODD. Let me do some followup on that, because in the
budget submission, the average number of volunteers as I read it,
now here projected for fiscal year 2003, was about 6,300, while the
number of volunteers expected to be on board on September 30,
2003, was 8,200. And I was confused about the discrepancy of al-
most 2,000 volunteers in those two numbers.
Mr. VASQUEZ. The numbers that we describe in our reports, Mr.
Chairman, have to do with the fact that we have a fluctuation of
numbers as trainees come into the service of the Peace Corps. We
typically use the end of September as the time to gauge the num-
ber of volunteers that we have in service. But at any given time,
we will have trainees who will be coming into the Peace Corps and
others who will be, what we call, close of service, at the end of their
Peace Corps service.
And so there are numbers that fluctuate. But we believe that by
the end of 2003 we will be at 8,200, based on all of the assessments
that we have done and recognizing that there are all those fluctua-
tions. But we use the number of 8,200 as the goal that we will
achieve. We have had internal discussions about that number and
about the goals that have been set out. And staff, both at head-
quarters and overseas, agree that we can achieve and attain that
target.
Senator DODD. Could you as welland you may haveI think
you shared this with me once before, but I have forgotten the num-
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volunteers, volunteers are the only way that people in those vil-
lages or communities could convey their sympathy about what had
occurred.
In Jordan, a Peace Corps teacher received this letter from her
Palestinian student. Please accept our, the class and I, condo-
lences and our deepest sorrow toward evil acts that took place in
the United States. May God bless the victims, their family, and
their loved ones. After all, we are all citizens of the world.
In China, a volunteer had to teach class soon after she learned
of the attack. As usual, she started to write a word on the board
at the start of the class that they could all discuss. Flustered, she
just wrote the word terrorism. The whole class of students imme-
diately starting crying. They stood and each hugged her, saying
how sorry they were for her, for her family, and for America. This
public expression of emotion was, as she wrote, not normal, in
China. And the response of her students was deeply moving to her.
When Walter Cronkite was asked what one could do to answer
the terrorists, he responded, Join the Peace Corps. And what he
meant, I think, are three things. First, that we have to engage
around the world even more than in the past. And there is no bet-
ter way for individual Americans to engage than by joining the
Peace Corps.
Second, we still have to break through the mythology about this
country and the misconceptions about our people. And the Peace
Corps remains the very best way to accomplish that mission as vol-
unteers live, work, and play with their host country colleagues.
And third, we need to find more ways to help nations break
through the constraints of poverty and equality, repression, and
fear. Peace Corps does work to reduce those conditions. And while
we may not be able to eradicate them entirely, it is also worthwhile
that others see us trying harder.
That message in a way also underscores the rationale for the
independence of the Peace Corps, which I am pleased to see under-
lined in bright letters within the proposed legislation. It is not
merely that the Peace Corps must maintain its own independence
in every sphere as you indicated is legally required, but it has to
be seen that way by other governments and other peoples.
Every Secretary of State has sent a message to ambassadors
around the world reaffirming the independence of the Peace Corps.
And let me just quote the 1983 cable from the Secretary of State
at that time. To be effective, the Peace Corps must remain sub-
stantially separate from the formal day-to-day conduct and con-
cerns of foreign policy because of its unique people-to-people char-
acter.
As former Secretary of State Rusk wrote to the chiefs of the U.S.
missions, To make the Peace Corps an instrument of foreign policy
would be to rob it of its contribution to foreign policy.
It seems to me that this legislation should seek to do whatever
it can to maintain and strengthen the independence of the Peace
Corps in every possible way. And I am pleased to have heard the
dialog that took place earlier.
In relation to the third goal of the Peace Corps, helping improve
our awareness and understanding of the peoples and nations
around us, our PCVs, like those who came here this past weekend,
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Americans on campuses all across the nation. Now 165,000 Volunteers have served
in 135 countries. As you have said frequently, Senator, as Volunteers we may have
contributed a little something to our host community and to our host country; but
we were the greatest beneficiaries of that experience. And we brought that knowl-
edge back home.
As a Volunteer, I learned of the realities of poverty in El Salvador, of the way
that repression denies human dignity, and of the courage of men and women who
risk everything to give their children a better life.
I can attest, that after four decades, after visiting Volunteers in 21 countries as
Director, that they too not only are contributing but also are learning skills, leader-
ship and international awareness in what may be the most effective graduate edu-
cation ever conceived.
Sarge Shriver said, The road to peace is no highway. It is racked with wars, rid-
dled with mistrust and suspicion . . . If humanity ever hopes to pave this road, it
must accomplish an understanding even deeper and more durable than the world
has ever known.
The Peace Corps has been trying to pave that road ever since.
On my trips, I met a half dozen government ministers who were students, col-
leagues and friends of Volunteers. Ask yourselves, how many million students
have been taught by Volunteers, or whose teachers have been trained by Volun-
teers?
The Director of the WHO campaign that eradicated smallpox from Ethiopia told
me it never would have succeeded without the Peace Corps. How many men and
women are alive today because Volunteers were part of the immunization cam-
paigns to eradicate smallpox and polio and measles?
How many families have avoided death from diarrheal diseases because Volun-
teers have explained, in 180 different languages, how to avoid waterborne dis-
eases?
As Director I was privileged to witness the dedication, energy and ingenuity that
Volunteers were bringing to their communities. After 9/11, I know there were those
who asked whether Peace Corps is still needed, is still safe, is still a priority.
My answer is yes, yes, and yes. Peace Corps Volunteers still are needed at the
development core of our work in carrying out the first goal of the Peace Corps
teaching in classrooms, carrying health and nutrition messages to distant villages,
and working with farmers to find more sustainable ways of growing food.
Todays Volunteers also are on the cutting edge of change.
They are answering the challenge of globalization by bringing computers and
information technology to the task of developmentnot only in the cities but also
in rural villages.
They are answering the challenge of HIV/AIDS by carrying education and pre-
vention awareness throughout sub-Saharan Africa. I am proud to have required that
all Volunteers in Africa be trained in HIV/AIDS prevention educationlast year
Volunteers reached more than 376,000 people with HIV/AIDS prevention education
activities. And the bills proposal to train more Volunteers on addressing global
health risks is to be commended, but with the caveat that the training obviously
must be appropriate to the Volunteers country of service.
And Volunteers also are beginning to play a role in helping countries coming
out of civil conflict find a new future. In most instances, Crisis Corps Volunteers
begin that processexperienced Volunteers who can be brought back to help coun-
tries respond to natural disasters, so too can they help their countries respond to
the aftermath of conflict, always after full evaluation and assurance of conditions
of safety and security.
I would like to urge a renewed effort to increase Crisis Corps capacity to serve
in HIV/AIDS support and in post conflict situations. More can and should be done.
We know there are jobs waiting to be done by Volunteers. And we know there
are countries who want Volunteers to fill those jobs. I am pleased that the bill rec-
ognizes that upping the number of Volunteers and the five-year funding authoriza-
tion also requires increases in funds for staff, in the countries, in Washington and
in our recruiting centres, as well as for strengthening programs and for strength-
ening the measures that assure the safety and security of Volunteers.
Also, with respect to recruiting, I want to commend the Chairman for including
a modest increase in the amount of the adjustment allowance provided to Volun-
teers, and for exploring the possibility of greater student loan forgiveness. Currently
only the Perkins student loan program provides for a volunteer reducing his or her
repayment obligation by 15% each of two years. Otherwise the current law and reg-
ulation merely provide for postponing interest payments while in Peace Corps.
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I would urge the Committee to consider measures to encourage the Masters Inter-
national program. It is a marvellous concept, which began before I arrived but
which I tried to strengthen. It provides for applicants to apply both for a masters
degree program at a participating university and to the Peace Corps. Usually, it
means all of the course work is done in the first year and the Peace Corps service
occurs in the second and third years and fulfills the thesis, or fieldwork require-
ment. The Volunteer finishes the Peace Corps and returns home with a Masters
Degree as well. I believe some incentive funding could multiply this program far be-
yond the 40 colleges and universities, which currently participate. It also could help
attract more Volunteers with more specialized training that some countries would
like to see for specific needs.
Peace Corps Volunteers also still are the best way to truly convey an under-
standing of who we are as a people. And the second goal of the Peace Corps is even
more crucial in a world where the Unites States is the last remaining super power
and a lightening rod of envy for too many raised in frustration and incapable of cop-
ing with the clash of modern and traditional cultures.
After 9/11, I thought about our Volunteers around the world and wondered about
the reaction. As in times past, the Volunteers were the only way that people in vil-
lages around the world could convey their sympathy and caring.
In Jordan, a Peace Corps teacher received this letter from her Palestinian stu-
dent: Please accept our, the class and I, condolences and our deepest sorrow toward
evil acts that took place in the United States. May God bless the victims, their fam-
ily and their loved ones. After all, we are all citizens of the world.
And in China, a Volunteer had to teach class soon after she learned of the attack.
As usual, she started to write a word on the board at the start of the class that
they all could discuss. Flustered, she just wrote the word, Terrorism. The whole
class of students immediately started crying. They stood and each hugged her, say-
ing how sorry they were for her, for her family and for America. This public expres-
sion of emotion was not normal in China, and the caring response of her students
was particularly moving to her.
When Walter Cronkite was asked what one could do to answer the terrorists, he
responded, Join the Peace Corps.
What he summed up in those words was an important lesson for all of us:
First, we have to engage around the world even more than in the past and there
is no better way for individual Americans to engage than by joining the Peace
Corps.
Second, we still have to break through the mythology about this country and the
misconceptions about our people and the Peace Corps remains the very best way
to accomplish that missionas Volunteers live, work and play with their host coun-
try colleagues.
Third, we need to find more ways to help nations break through the constraints
of poverty, inequality, repression, and fear. Peace Corps does work to reduce those
conditions and while we cannot eradicate them entirely, it also is worthwhile that
others see us trying.
That message also underscores the rationale for the independence of the Peace
Corps, which I am pleased to see underscored in bright letters, within the proposed
legislation. It is not merely that the Peace Corps must maintain its own independ-
ence in every sphere but it must be recognized by the rest of our government and
be seen by other governments as fully independent.
Every Secretary of State has sent a message to Ambassadors around the world
reaffirming that, and I quote the 1983 cable under President Reagan, to be effective
(Peace Corps) must remain substantially separate from the formal day-to-day con-
duct and concerns of foreign policy because of its unique people-to-people character.
As former Secretary of State Rusk wrote to the chiefs of U.S. missions: To make
the Peace Corps an instrument of foreign policy would be to rob it of its contribution
to foreign policy . . . . From the start Peace Corps was to be independent. If any-
thing has protected Volunteers across the globe, it has been that separateness.
Whatever is done with this legislation, maintaining the Peace Corps independence
is crucial.
In relation to the third goal of the Peace Corps, helping improve our own aware-
ness and understanding of the peoples and nations of the world, Returned Peace
Corps Volunteers, like those who came here this past weekend, have been engaging
in their communities and their nations in ways even President Kennedy never
would have imagined.
It happens naturally, but a few programs have developed to enhance that experi-
ence including Worldwide Schools, the National Peace Corps Association, now the
new Peace Corps fund and countless other Returned Peace Corps Volunteer organi-
zations around the country. My one suggestion about the proposal in the bill to help
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provide for some direct funding of such groups through the Corporation for National
and Community Service would be to make it even broader so that any organization
of Returned Peace Corps Volunteers would qualify for direct financing of its social
projectswithout necessarily going through an intermediary.
With respect to the third goal, I also would urge the committee to examine how
best to revitalize the Peace Corps Fellows program, so that all those who want to
participate in this program can do so. Returned Volunteers who want to go to grad-
uate school can get some of their tuition covered if they agree to work in an under-
served community for two years while they get their degree.
Mr. Chairman, President Kennedy said, Peace does not rest in the charters and
covenants alone. It lies in the hearts and minds of all people . . . The Peace Corps
has been helping to build that peace. The bill before the Committee can help give
countless other Americans the chance to become part of this magnificent 40-year
legacy of making a difference.
Senator DODD. Thank you very, very much, Mark, some very
good ideas and thoughts. And again, we thank you for your service
and your good leadership during your directorship.
Let me ask you how hard you think it is going to be. I mean,
I raised the issue of what the number of applicants was to accept-
ances to Director Gaddi Vasquez. And I wonder if you might share
with us, you know, how difficult you think it will be. Let us assume
we have resources and so forth. But is it going to be hard to raise
and get the quality of numbers we are talking about here? Is it in
any way unrealistic?
Mr. SCHNEIDER. I think it is going to be hard. I also think it can
be done. I think what has been interesting is that every time that
we have had the resources and the authorization to go higher, we
have gotten the applications increased. And I think that in this
case as well, that if we have the resources to reach out and do ad-
ditional recruitingand I think that Gaddis concern to expand di-
versity, which is something we have been trying to do over the past
10 yearsand Paul Coverdell started it. When he started, there
was about 6 percent of volunteers who were from minority back-
grounds. We are now at 15 percent. And I think that we can do
better.
And I think that we have to look at our advertising and recruit-
ing efforts. At the same time, I am convinced that we can reach
those numbers.
Senator DODD. Any other particular thoughts on altering the re-
cruiting practices in your mind? You mentioned a couple of things
there. But anything else?
Mr. SCHNEIDER. Well, again, I think that we need to do more ad-
vertising. I went to the movies the other night and saw the Marine
Corps had an ad in every movie that you go to. And it is volun-
tarily done by the Motion Picture Association and by the Adver-
tising Council of America. It seems to me that they might cooperate
with the Peace Corps in spreading our message as well.
Senator DODD. Pick a corps.
Well, let me ask you about thein talking about theI men-
tioned expanding Peace Corps activities in Muslim countries. And
part of our efforts to better understand and to create better under-
standing of who we are, particularly when you read reports of a
younger generation and their attitudes, that some of these
madrasses and other schools the other day in Malaysia, stories in
I believe one of the national newspapers, about schools that very
much duplicate what is going on in Pakistan and elsewhere, where
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you get a sense of the level of hatred being taught to very young
people.
And obviously, the Peace Corps cannot take on all this itself. And
public diplomacy at the State Department has to be vastly im-
proved. But the Peace Corps can play a role here, it seems to me.
What thoughts do you have about expanding Peace Corps activities
in the Muslim world?
Mr. SCHNEIDER. There is no question. And I think there are two
things there. One is that we already have a significant experience
in having volunteers in Islamic countries. And we need to build on
that and take the lessons.
And the second is thatand again, this goes back to diversity
I would suspect that we have not made any efforts to reach out to
the Islamic community here, specific targeted efforts.
When I was director, I asked what have we done to reach out
and communicate across the religious spectrum, especially at the
time of high school. In other words, a lot of times families that are
very close to their religions, they get a lot of their information from
their churches or their synagogues or their mosques. And yet we
have very little communication. It seems to me that we could do
more, particularly with respect to the Islamic community in reach-
ing out.
Senator DODD. Good suggestion. The Peace Corps has a modest
student loan forgiveness program. I wonder if you think it should
be doing more in this area. And the bill also raises the readjust-
ment allowance paid to volunteers for their service from $225 each
month to $275. Now I am going back a few years to my days of
volunteer. But I think my readjustment allowance was $75.
Mr. SCHNEIDER. I think that is right. But that is $75 for each
month of service.
Senator DODD. And I was a volunteer when Thomas Jefferson
was President. So that has not gone up much in those years.
Mr. SCHNEIDER. I think that you are absolutely right. I think
that going up to the level of $275 for each month of service is thor-
oughly appropriate. I also think that we should look at the whole
range of student loans, provide the opportunity to perhaps some re-
duction in the balance owed by volunteers who complete the 2-
years of service.
Senator DODD. Are you concerned at all about this USA volun-
teer program and the independence of the Peace Corps? Are con-
cerns that are being raised by that, based on what you know, un-
warranted?
Mr. SCHNEIDER. At the outset, I was very concerned. Knowing
that we have both you and Senator Chafee, I feel less concerned.
And I think the commitments from Director Vasquez earlier today
are important.
I think one has to alwaysthere is a tendency always to say,
well, gee, it would be more efficient to have all service agencies in
one department. And there is a tendency sometimes for people to
move in that direction. So I think you always have to be vigilant.
I remember the phrase, Trust, but monitor; trust, but verify.
Senator DODD. Senator Chafee.
Senator CHAFEE. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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not to make you live by it, but if you can just sort of keep your
remarks to around 5 or 6 minutes, so we can get to some questions.
And if you run over a little bit, do not worry about it. But if you
could try to keep it within that timeframe, I would appreciate it.
And we will obviously take all of your statements in full. And we
thank you all for being here.
Dane, thank you again for a very fine weekend. I am sorry I
could not participate in all the events. But I know Janice OConnell
of my office was on one of the panels on Saturday. And I gather
from press accounts it sounded like a good old Peace Corps party.
Having Sarge show up on that motorcycle washe came in on Fri-
day morning. And I know what his age is, and, believe me, I wish
I had half his energy. And I am half his age. He was remarkable.
His enthusiasm is contagious.
So we thank you, Dane, for your fine work this weekend, as you
have over the years with the National Peace Corps Association. We
will begin with your testimony.
STATEMENT OF DANE SMITH, PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEER IN
ETHIOPIA (19631965); PRESIDENT, NATIONAL PEACE CORPS
ASSOCIATION, WASHINGTON, DC
Mr. SMITH. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
Congressman Shays, thank you for your kind remarks about our
conference. We greatly appreciate the participation of both you and
Janice in our conference.
It is an honor to appear before this subcommittee to represent
the National Peace Corps Association and its membership. We are
a 501(c)(3) organization. And we are the only national organization
which represents return Peace Corps volunteers or RPCVs, former
staff of the Peace Corps, and friends of the Peace Corps.
We have 15,000 members in all 50 states. And we have 141 affil-
iate Peace Corps alumni groups in 44 of those states. We carry out
programs in global education, service, and peace-building. And we
have launched a Microenterprise Program working with FINCA,
the Foundation for International Community Assistance, and the
Calvert Foundation, to promote investment in micro-lending pro-
grams for poor countries.
In early January of this year, two members of the National Peace
Corps Association, Roger Landrum and David Hibbard, convened a
small group to formulate ideas to be conveyed to the U.S. Congress
on a new mandate for the Peace Corps, namely, how to strength-
en the agency and position it for greater effectiveness in the post-
September 11 world. NPCA leaders, including Pat Reilly, soon to
become chair of the NPCA board of directors; Ed Crane, our advo-
cacy coordinator; and I joined this group.
And immediately after the State of the Union Message, our
group, which had reached a kind of consensus on our views, sub-
mitted recommendations at the request of offices in the Senate and
the House, including your office, Mr. Chairman. And we have since
participated in consultations on the draft legislation before it was
introduced with staff of this subcommittee.
For the Peace Corps family, September 11 underlined more than
anything else the vital importance to our security and well-being
of Americas positive engagement with the rest of the world. No as-
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There are 165,000 Americans who have served in the Peace Corps.
They have brought knowledge and experience back from that serv-
ice. And they continue to serve in their own communities, as well
as overseas.
And I want to emphasize how pleased we are with the commit-
ment of Peace Corps Director Gaddi Vasquez to draw on the in-
sight and talents of our PCVs in moving the Peace Corps forward
and to the formation of the working group that he has mentioned.
In closing, I would like to make a few comments on section 10
concerning the Peace Corps Innovation Fund. The National Peace
Corps Association has been promoting service initiatives of the
kind envisaged for the proposed fund for more than 15 years. In
1986, we first awarded the Sargent Shriver Award for Outstanding
Humanitarian Service. And in the intervening years, this award
has been given to Peace Corps alumni who have done such things
as establish a family hospital in Appalachia or an eye clinic in
Haiti or carrying on reconciliation between warring ethnic groups
in Bosnia.
This year the award was just given to Molly Melching, who
through her Senegalese NGO Tostan has brought about decisions
in hundreds of Senegalese villages to halt the practice of female
genital cutting.
A second award, we also confer the Loret Miller Ruppe Award
annually to an NPCA affiliate group for group service projects. And
in recent years, the Ruppe Award has been given for such projects
as a mentoring program at a high school in inner city Chicago,
which includes a carefully tailored three-week visit to West Africa
for several students or conflict resolution work in civil war-ravaged
Sierra Leone and efforts by Ethiopia and Eritrea returned Peace
Corps volunteers to encourage a peaceful resolution of the war that
broke out between Ethiopia and Eritrea in 1998.
We not only encourage such projects, Mr. Chairman, but we are
beginning to provide funding for them. The NPCA has just
launched a program of continuation of service grants, seed money
to be made available for projects undertaken domestically or inter-
nationally by our affiliate groups under a set of criteria endorsed
by our board of directors. During the conference which just ended,
we raised $10,000 to support the continuation of service grants.
In anticipation that this legislation will be enacted, the National
Peace Corps Association is proceeding with planning for organizing
a separate nonprofit corporation which would meet the criteria es-
tablished in section 10. We expect to draw on the talents of our
new mandate group led by Roger Landrum and Dave Hibbard and
on others with experience in particular project areas and in project
design and evaluation.
And we anticipate that the new entity would give emphasis to
projects for educating Americans about the developing countries,
for AIDS education, for community, national, and international
service, including youth service programs, and for conflict resolu-
tion.
And so, Mr. Chairman, the NPCA supports this bill, the Peace
Corps Charter for the 21st Century Act, and intends, with its affil-
iate groups, to work hard for its passage.
Thank you very much.
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Mr. Chairman. I am Dane Smith. President of the National Peace Corps Associa-
tion, It is an honor to appear before this Subcommittee to represent the National
Peace Corps Association and its membership. The NPCA, a 501(c)(3) organization,
founded in 1979 as the National Council of Returned Peace Corps Volunteers and
incorporated in the State of North Carolina, is the only national organization which
represents Returned Peace Corps Volunteers (RPCVs), former Staff of the Peace
Corps and Friends of the Peace Corps. The NPCA has 15,000 members in all 50
states and has 141 affiliate Peace Corps alumni groups in 44 of the 50 states. The
NPCA carries out programs in global education, service, and peace-building and has
just launched a Microenterprise Program, in collaboration with the Foundation for
International Community Assistance (FINCA) and the Calvert Foundation, which
promotes investment in micro-lending programs in poor countries.
In early January of this year two members of the NPCARoger Landrum and
David Hibbard, who both served in the Peace Corps in Nigeriaconvened a small
group to formulate ideas to be conveyed to the U.S. Congress on a new mandate
for the Peace Corps, namely how to strengthen the Agency and position it for great-
er effectiveness in the post-September 11 world. NPCA leaders, including Pat Reilly,
soon to become Chair of the NPCA Board of Directors, Ed Crane, NPCA Advocacy
Coordinator, and I joined this group and hosted it at NFCA headquarters. By the
time President Bush delivered his State of the Union message proposing a doubling
of the Peace Corps within five yearsa proposal we warmly welcomedour group
had reached a consensus on basic ideas and had visited Congressional offices, both
Republican and Democratic, seeking support. Immediately after the State of the
Union message, our group submitted recommendations at the request of offices in
the Senate and the House. We have since participated in consultations on draft leg-
islation with Congressional staff, including staff of this Subcommittee.
Why has the NPCA pressed for legislation embodying a Peace Corps Charter for
the 21st Century? For the Peace Corps family, September 11 underlined more than
anything else the vital importance to our security and well-being of Americas posi-
tive engagement with the rest of the world. No aspect of Americas engagement with
the world over more than 40 years has been more positive and effective than the
Peace Corps. It has had a positive impact on 135 countries already, with many more
to come. Moreover, 165,000 Americans have served in the Peace Corps over 41
years. These Americans return still filled with a passion for service which they un-
dertake in their own communities in the United States, nationally or internation-
ally. The NPCA has just completed this past week-end a National Conferrnce cele-
brating the 40th Anniversary of the Peace Corps. The Conference brought over 2000
Peace Corps alumni to Washington. The primary question before this Conference
was: How can the Peace Corpsand Peace Corps alumnimake an even more effec-
tive contribution to a peaceful world through grassroots development and the pro-
motion of harmony and understanding among peoples of different ethnicities and re-
ligions? Mr. Chairman, we believe that S. 2667 goes a long way toward answering
this question and that it should be supported by a strong bipartisan majority.
Principles for a Mandate for the Peace Corps in the 21st Century
Having examined an initial draft of legislation and aware that the bill was likely
to undergo further change, the NPCA Board of Directors last month adopted a set
of general principles it wanted to see reflected in the legislation in its final form
so as to enable the Peace Corps and its alumni to address new challenges of peace-
ful, grassroots development in the 21st century. These principles are as follows:
1. Support for President Bushs proposal to double the number of Peace Corps
Volunteers over five years, in a context of quality programming and volunteer
placement and broader, more innovative initiatives of people-to-people develop-
ment assistance.
2. The historic independence of Peace Corps, from its inception, from other
agencies of foreign policy and from any and all forms of intelligence gathering.
3. A well-funded Strategic Planning Unit within the Peace Corps with the ex-
pertise and authority to guide the expansion of volunteer numbers and pro-
gramming initiatives with improved reserch evaluation, and forward strategic
planning.
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4. A streamlined, bipartisan Advisory Council to the Peace Corps composed
of Peace Corps alumni representing a broad range of international knowledge
and relevant career expertise.
5. An RPCV Innovation Fund providing grants to support selected innovative
projects and programs proposed by RPCVs, both domestic and international,
consistent with the goals of the Peace Corps and experience gained through
Peace Corps service.
6. A restructured Crisis Corps that better utilizes the career expertise of
RPCVs to extend the mission and goals of the Peace Corps into challenging new
contexts of peaceful development in the 21st century.
7. A new era of collaboration between the Peace Corps agency, the National
Peace Corps Association, other Peace Corps alumni organizations and initiatives
and other international volunteer programs.
NPCA Support for S. 2667
Mr. Chairman, the National Peace Corps Association considers that S. 2667 is
consistent with the Mandate principles we have formulated and strongly supports
its passage. We believe the bill, if enacted, would provide a strengthened mandate
for the Peace Corps and important suggestions about how the Agency can be
strengthened. We particularly favor the important role envisaged for Returned
Peace Corps Volunteers in contributing to a strengthened agency. There are 165,000
Americans who have served in the Peace Corps. They have derived important
knowledge and experience from their service overseas, and they have brought back
a passion to continue to serve, in their own communities as well as overseas. And
we are pleased that Peace Corps Director Gaddi Vasquez has indicated a strong de-
sire to draw on the insight and talents of RPCVs in moving the Peace Corps for-
ward.
Funding Projects of Peace Corps Alumni
In closing I would like to make a few comments on Sec. 10 concerning the Peace
Corps Innovation Fund. The National Peace Corps Association has been promoting
service initiatives of the kind envisaged for the proposed Fund for more than 15
years. In 1986 we first awarded the Sargent Shriver Award for Outstanding Hu-
manitarian Service. In the intervening years this award has been given to Peace
Corps alumni who have done such things as establish a family clinic in Appalachia,
create an eye clinic in Haiti, carry on reconciliation between warring ethnic groups
in the Balkans. This year the award was given to Molly Melching, who through her
Senegalese NGO Tostan, has brought about decisions in hundreds of Senegalese vil-
lages to halt the practice of female genital cutting. We also confer the Loret Miller
Ruppe Award annually to an NPCA affiliate groups for group service projects. In
recent years the Ruppe Award has been given for such projects as a mentoring pro-
gram at a high school in inner-city Chicago, to include a carefully tailored three
week visit to West Africa for several students; conflict resolution work in civil war-
ravaged Sierra Leone; and efforts by Ethiopia and Eritrea Returned Volunteers to
encourage a peaceful resolution of the Ethiopia-Eritrea war. We not only encourage
such projects, but we are beginning to provide funding for them. The NPCA has just
launched a program of Continuation of Service Grants, seed money to be made
available for projects undertaken domestically or internationally by our affiliate
groups under a set of criteria endorsed by our Board of Directors. During our Con-
ference, which just ended, we raised $10,000 to support the Continuation of Service
grants.
In anticipation that this legislation will be enacted, the NPCA is proceeding with
planning for organizing a separate non-profit corporation which would meet the cri-
teria established in Section 10. We expect to draw on the talents of our new man-
date group led by Roger Landrum and Dave Hibbard and on others with experience
in particular project areas and in project design and evaluation. We anticipate that
the new entity would give emphasis to projects for educating Americans about the
developing countries; for AIDS education; for community, national and international
service, including youth service programs; and for conflict resolution.
Mr. Chairman, the National Peace Corps Association supports the passage of
S.2667 A Peace Corps Charter for the 21st Century. Thank you.
Senator DODD. Thank you very much. You did say in 44 states,
you had that many affiliate organizations. So we look forward to
having cosponsors from all 44 states. And I tell you this much, I
can promise you this, when you were here and I know you had an
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fully support the third goal of the Peace Corps Act. I am here today
as cofounder of the fund, a nonprofit organization established in
the District of Columbia to provide grants up to $100,000 to re-
turned Peace Corps volunteers who want to carry out the third goal
in their communities in the shapes of programs, projects, and ac-
tivities.
The fund brings together an extraordinary team of returned
Peace Corps volunteers with demonstrated skills in nonprofit man-
agement, fundraising, grants management, budget and finance,
foundation relationships, communications, public relations, tech-
nology and vision combined with an extensive network that reaches
to every corner of our country and the farthest corners of the world.
In order to enhance efficiency and keep costs down, the Peace
Corps Fund will take advantage of the latest technology and facili-
tate our grant making on line through its Web site,
www.asknot.org. The online grant making process includes applica-
tion, awards of grants, project reporting, and evaluations.
Individuals representing three generations of the Peace Corps
family, including one of the early architects of agency and a re-
cently returned Peace Corps volunteer from Asia, incorporated the
fund. Many of the early architects of the Peace Corps, Members of
Congress, members of the National Peace Corps Association, and
numerous individuals and organizations committed to sustainable
development support this innovative idea.
The fund does not have dues paying members. It does not pub-
lish a magazine. It does not have programs and does not engage
in peacemaking activities around the world. The fund is open to
support all return volunteers who want to do third goal activities.
It will act as a fiscal agent to provide grants to do so. And my col-
league, John Coyne, will provide a more detailed example as to the
specific projects that the fund could support.
For the past 41 years, RPCVs have been bringing the world back
home in small ways with limited resources, as you stated earlier.
Creating speaker bureaus for their local schools, hosting forums to
discuss culture and tradition of countries where they served, teach-
ing English to immigrant parents with children in local schools,
and a multitude of other activities that continue to share what we
have learned and to carry on a tradition of service here at home.
While many RPCVs carry their unique experiences gained
around the world into classrooms and boardrooms, thousands have
become leaders in corporations, educational institutions, jour-
nalism, international organizations and here in our Nations polit-
ical leadership, both at the state and national levels.
Increasing the resources available to RPCVs will have a signifi-
cant impact on increasing understanding among Americans about
the people, places, cultures, and traditions of the nations where we
lived and worked as volunteers.
While I could spend days speaking about the depth and range of
the transforming projects initiated by RPCVs in their communities
with little or no resources, I do want to share with this committee
the 13-year-old calendar project, which I gave each of you, created
by the RPCVs of Wisconsin. And it is their collective effort to bring
the world back home.
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Mr. Chairman, Members of this Committee, I thank you for the opportunity to
testify today in support of the legislation of the Peace Corps Charter for 21st Cen-
tury Act. I am a Returned Peace Corps Volunteer from Morocco where I taught
English as a second language. I have served for 5 years as the Women in Develop-
ment Director for the Peace Corps, for 6 years as a member of the Board of Direc-
tors for the National Peace Corps Association, I chaired the 40th Anniversary Cele-
bration of the Peace Corps, co-chaired of the Committee for the Future of the Peace
Corps and am the co-founder of the Peace Corps Fund. And now I am the founder
and president of the International Womens Democracy Center, which trains women
outside the United States in the technical skills of how to run for elected office, how
to engage in building their civil society, and how to lobby their legislatures.
I want to applaud you and this institution for finally designating resources to sup-
port Returned Peace Corps Volunteers who want to implement the 3rd goal of the
Peace Corps as stated in the Peace Corps Act of 1961to educate Americans about
the people, places and countries where we lived and worked as Peace Corps Volun-
teers. Bill Moyers said that Peace Corps Volunteers carry two passportsone
stamped American and one stamped human being.
Last weekend, nearly 2,000 people from the Peace Corps family gathered in Wash-
ington to lead and attend workshops, celebrate the music and traditions of the coun-
tries where we lived and worked as Volunteers, honor those who died in service,
and support the very organizations that continue to embrace the challenges of serv-
ice.
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The Peace Corps Fund was created at the urging of thousands of Returned Peace
Corps Volunteers and staff who formally and forcefully support the Third Goal of
the Peace Corps Act of 1961, I am here today as co-founder of The Peace Corps
Fund, a non-profit organization established in the District of Columbia to provide
grants up to $100,000 to Returned Peace Corps Volunteers who want to carry out
the 3rd goal in their communities in the shape of programs, projects and activities.
The Peace Corps Fund brings together an extraordinary team of Returned Peace
Corps Volunteers with demonstrated skills in non-profit management, fundraising,
grants management, budget and finance, foundation relationships, communications,
public relations, technology and vision combined with an extensive network that
reaches to every corner of our country and the farthest corners of the world.
Individuals representing three generations of the Peace Corps Familyincluding
one of the early architects of the Agency incorporated the Peace Corps Fund and
a recently returned Peace Corps Volunteer. Many of the early architects of the
Peace Corps, Members of Congress, members of the National Peace Corps Associa-
tion, and numerous individuals support the Peace Corps Fund and organizations
committed to sustainable peace and development throughout our global community.
In order to enhance efficiency and keep costs down, the Peace Corps Fund will take
advantage of the latest technology and facilitate grant making on line through its
web sitewww.AskNot.org The online grant making process includes application,
awards of grants, project reporting and evaluations.
The Peace Corps Fund does not have dues paying members, does not publish a
quarterly magazine, does not have programs and does not engage in peace making
activities around the world. The Fund will be open to support all Returned Peace
Corps Volunteers and the fund will simply act as a fiscal agent to provide grants
to RPCVs and RPCV groups for 3rd goal activities. My colleague John Coyne will
provide a more detailed example as to the specific project the Fund could support.
For the past 41 years, RPCVs have been bringing the world back home in small
ways with limited resources. Creating speaker bureaus for their local schools,
hosting forums to discuss culture and tradition of countries where they served,
teaching English to immigrant parents with children in local schools and a mul-
titude of other activities that continue to share what we have learned and to carry
on a tradition of service here at home. While many RPCVs carry their unique expe-
riences gained around the world into class rooms, board rooms, thousands of RPCVs
have become leaders in corporations, educational institutions, journalism, inter-
national organizations and our nations political leadership both at the state and na-
tional levels. Increasing the resources available to RPCVs will have a significant im-
pact on increasing the understanding among Americans about people, places, cul-
tures, religions and traditions of the nations where we lived and worked as Volun-
teers.
While I could spend days speaking about the depth and range of transforming
projects initiated by RPCVs in their communities, I want to share with this com-
mittee the 13-year-old calendar project created by the RPCVs of Wisconsinas their
collective effort to bring the world back home. As a former teacher, the annual cal-
endar is one of the most powerful development education tools I have ever seen. It
not only lists all the holidays from all the Peace Corps countries every months, it
provides spectacular photos taken by RPCVs of one nation a month with a descrip-
tion of a tradition or event that highlights the culture of the country. At the mo-
ment, they produce nearly 35,000 of these calendars. Imagine the power of this
teaching tool if our nations school children were given one for their very own. It
is a very cost effective and efficient, simple way for kids to not only learn every day
and about different holidays and cultures, but every month, about a different coun-
try and tradition. More importantly, it would give students a chance to aspire and
dream about exploring other places.
September 11 changed us forever and we all continue to wrestle with the injus-
tices of terrorism. One way to fight terrorism is to learn about and engage in the
rest of the world. In 1961, when Sarge Shriver went to Ghana to lay the foundation
for the first Volunteers to serve there, the President of Ghana agreed to host Ameri-
cans on the condition that he sent the best and the brightest. The 166,000 Returned
Peace Corps Volunteers who have served in over 130 nations speaking 300+ lan-
guages for the past 4 decades giving 300,000 years of service are in my opinion, the
best and the brightest.
Among the many outstanding moments at the conference this past weekend,
Sarge Shriver said that Peace Corps stands for everything we believe in America
that we care about the people of the world that Peace Corps is dedicated to the goal
of permanent peace.
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Mr. Chainnan, I speak in strong support of the Peace Corps Charter for the 21st
Century Act and Section 10 which provides $10 million dollars for RPCVs to facili-
tate 3rd goal activities.
Thank you.
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duced the idea of a Peace Corps. It was a moment in time that defined four decades
of public service by young and older Americans.
I was one of the students on campus that night swept up by John F. Kennedys
challenge to go to Asia, Africa, or Latin America and contribute a few years to my
country. I had never thought of leaving the U.S. before. I would never even have
thought of leaving my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. Now I wanted to be part
of the New Frontier. I wanted to do something for my country.
In the summer of 1962, I went to Washington to train at Georgetown University
with the first group of Volunteers to Ethiopia.
On our first night of training, all of us Ethiopia-bound Volunteers went en masse
for a long walk on the C&O Canal. Leading us was Supreme Court Justice William
O. Douglas who had recently saved that canal by having it designated a historic
monument.
At the end of the two miles we stopped for hot dogs, beer, and an impromptu talk
from a lanky kid named John D. Rockefeller IV. I am not sure if Senator Rockefeller
remembers that evening or not, but he was just back from studying in Asia and was
working at the Peace Corps headquarters with Sargent Shriver.
Towards the end of our training we went to meet President Kennedy in the Rose
Garden. Leading us was Harris Wofford, then Country Director for Ethiopia and
later, as you know, U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania. Also in our group was another
young Volunteer like myself, the late Senator from Massachusetts, Paul Tsongas.
On the White House lawn, President Kennedy told us, I hope that you will re-
gard this Peace Corps tour as the first installment in a long life of service, as the
most exciting career in the most exciting time, and that is serving this country in
the sixties and the seventies.
Well, here it is in a new century and those of us who responded to President Ken-
nedys challenge of life long service are still trying to fulfill the Third Goal of the
Peace Corps to bring the world back home.
In 41 years of service in the developing nations of the world, the Peace Corps has
come to represent the best that America has to offer the worid. It is also one of
Americas best bridges of friendship to the peoples of the world. We have touched
the lives of people in 135 countries over these last four decades. We have made life-
long friends, and to an amazing degree, changed the global perception of America
by living among, and with the peoples of the world. We have changed the face of
the ugly American in many communities who have never had the opportunity to
see, to touch, and to know an American. And we have come home to America and
in our daily lives, within our extended families, and our communities, we have
taught America about what we saw and, more importantly, learned from other peo-
ple and cultures.
Our impact here in America has often been very personal.
In the 1980s, to fulfill this Third Goal of the Peace Corps of bringing the world
vividly home to America, I started with another Returned Volunteer from Ethiopia,
Marian Haley Beil, a newsletter to promote and share the writings of Peace Corps
Volunteers. Three years ago, we expanded this effort by developing a web site,
peacecorpswriters.org
We believe that the writings of Returned Peace Corps Volunteers, all their novels,
short stories, essays and poetry are a positive way of educating Americans about
the world, an essential Third Goal activity. This poetry and prose is a literary
bridge that links the cultures of the world. The writings of Peace Corps Volunteers
provide America a chance to learn about Peace Corps countries that they will never
have the opportunity to visit. Today, on our online bibliography, we have over 500
writers who have published more than 1,200 books, many of which are based on
their experiences overseas.
All this work on the newsletteras with the sitecontinues to be done on a vol-
unteer basis. We believe that we are promoting service by our own example of serv-
ing the Peace Corps community.
It was during the 1990s that I also edited a series of essays written by Peace
Corps Volunteersessays about their Peace Corps experiencethat I had first pub-
lished in our newsletter and turned them into a paperback book. These stories by
former Volunteers have been an extremely effective recruitment tool for the agency.
I also was recently asked by Paul D. Coverdell Worldwise Schools of the Peace
Corps to find essays for their new classroom textbook, Voices from the Fields, to be
used by language arts teachers in grades 7-12.
Mr. Chairman, these are just two examples of what can be done with the writings
of people who have served our nation as Peace Corps Volunteers. There are many
other projects and programs that RPCVs can do here at home to further the Third
Goal of the Peace Corps Act. It is my hope that the new Peace Corps bill will make
it possible for me to continue the work of peacecorpswriters.org and make the prose
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and poetry of Peace Corps writers accessible to students and older audiences across
the United States.
At this critical moment in our history, we can deliver a domestic dividend from
our Peace Corps service. We can share the lessons we learned living and working
in another culture. We can help our country understand the world by writing about
the people we knew as friends.
Mr. Chairman, in closing, let me offer the perspective of just one of more than
166,000 people who have served as Peace Corps Volunteers. At its core, the Peace
Corps is about serviceservice to our country, and service to our fellow citizens of
the world. Its a simple but very powerful concept, one that has stood the test of
time, and one that, in my view has helped strengthen the ties of cross-cultural un-
derstanding between Americans and the people of other countries.
This sort of understanding has never been more important than it is today, and
as returned Volunteers, we have a responsibility to share with our fellow Americans
what we have learned overseas, all in the hope of making the world a better, more
peaceful place.
This legislation will help us do our jobs as returned Volunteers. With your help
and support, we can continue to help bring the world back home.
Thank you very much.
Senator DODD. Thank you, John, very, very much; and, Barbara,
for the tremendous work you are doing with the fund. My com-
pliments to you and look forward to any ways we can be helpful
to it. It is a very worthwhile endeavor.
I am just curious, Dane, over the weekend I had the opportunity
to talk to a couple of people who have been up on the Hill talking
about the pending, well, proposed, legislation. I wonder if you
mightI know there was an opportunity to discuss it in some of
the workshops. Can you give us sort of a flavor of what the reaction
was among the participants in last weeks conference to the bill?
What were some of the comments, criticisms, whatever you think
may be appropriate to share with the committee?
Mr. SMITH. Mr. Chairman, as you know, during advocacy day, a
major aspect of what the returned volunteers and other members
of our association were doing as they met with their Members and
Representatives on the Hill, was to promote this legislation. And
the effect, as you said, was quite extraordinary. And I understand
that a number of sponsors were added as a result of their activi-
ties.
In addition, we designed the conference to have as one of its
major forums the future of the Peace Corps in the 21st century.
And that panel, which included Deputy Director Jody Olsen from
the Peace Corps, as well as Janice OConnell from your committee
staff, and Dave Hibbard, who was one of the organizers of the man-
date group that I discussed, collected a very large number of people
in the hall. It was one of our best-attended workshops. Ken Hill
also spoke as a former chief of staff of the Peace Corps.
So we had a tremendous response, which continued during the
course of the conference, and a lot of very positive reaction from
members. And a number of our affiliate groups have signed on. We
expect many more of them will do so in the coming weeks.
Senator DODD. Well, great. That is very helpful. Share with me,
if you wouldand all three of you comment on thisif you have
any comments at all about the bill, anything more than what Dane
has added in terms of the weekend. Again, the doubling the size
of the Peace Corps, the President has advocated this as, I think,
a general sense that this is needed. Obviously, there are concerns
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Senator DODD. One of the things, you know, we all heard this,
and it is a constant source of debate and discussion about the role
of the Peace Corps and its service. And I know when I left the
project in my community in the Dominican Republic, I think I was,
what was it, maybe the third, second or third, volunteer in this
community. And there was concern about exhaustion a little bit of
the Peace Corps. So there was some talk, obviously, of giving the
community a break for a period of time and to see what would hap-
pen in a sense after having gone through 6 or 7 years of a Peace
Corps experience.
And that goes to the issue of whether or not we are becoming
more of an aid agency or people-to-people program. And there is a
sense in many communities that after they have had their fourth
or fifth English major who brings some wonderful attitudes, or
skills even, to some degree, there is a level at which they are look-
ing for more. They want something more than just the people-to-
people experiences.
And I am wondering how thatfirst off, do you agree with that?
But second, how that can be accommodated if we are expanding the
numbers to such a degree? I know there are a lot of places in the
world people can be, but there is obviously security and other such
considerations that narrow the scope worldwide to some degree,
and then being able to service volunteers in such a way that they
are going to be effective.
I wonder if you might address those points.
Mr. COYNE. Well, I was an associate director in Ethiopia after I
was a Peace Corps volunteer. And when I went in as a volunteer,
they would not allow women to leave the major cities. And this
changed rapidly over the year. But this is a big concern in terms
of recruitment.
When I was out as a volunteer, I think the women were 23 per-
cent. They are now approximately 64, maybe 65, percent. So there
is a security issue on that part. But recently I looked at a map of
Ethiopia. And we had served in over 200 different villages, towns,
and places I had never heard of. So there is an endless stretching
of the possibilities of going into new countries.
I think that it is possible to take a BA generalist, who I think
is still the strong volunteer, and prepare them as they did years
ago in India with checking identification projects, to do a specific
skill for a period and also do the other part of it that Mark has
alluded to earlier about being on the ground.
President Toledo talked about this. You cannot replace this
touching another person. This is a key factor, I think, in the experi-
ence, not only for the volunteer who comes home and talks about
it, but also for the country that there is an individual, there is a
family, there is a community, that knows America as a person, as
an individual.
Senator DODD. Good points. The independence of the Peace
Corps, we have talked about it here today. Any of you have any
concerns about the USA Freedom Corps and its relationship with
the Peace Corps? Dane, do you want to start.
Mr. SMITH. We are absolutely committed to supporting the inde-
pendence of the Peace Corps from the foreign policy agencies and
intelligence. I frankly do not see a problem with the White House
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They have responded that, you know, please relax on this one. This
is notthis is not your concern.
And just to say I have lots of respect for all of you. And I will
just end by saying that, you know, when you said, Barbara, if there
are 10 people, there are 11 opinions. But, you know, you did not
finish the story. I find with Peace Corps volunteers, when you put
us all in a room, we get consensus pretty early. There are lots of
different opinions. We express them. But we find consensus pretty
well. It is one of the skills, I think, that I learned from my Peace
Corps experience.
The other thing I would say to you is that one of the dangers in
the Peace Corps, it may have been true in your case, but in Fiji
where I was, in the urban areas there were a number of us. And
we liked each other so much that there was always this danger we
did not just want to be with each other, because we all had certain
goals and certain interests that were very compatible. And we
sometimes had to remind ourselves, you know, we cannot be too cli-
quish, you know, as Peace Corps volunteers overseas and need to
make sure we are reaching out to the people we work and live
with.
So thank you all for your participation. And, Chris, I want you
to know that this still feels a little weird to be over on this side.
And thank you for giving me this very weird experience.
Senator DODD. We know what you House Members think of Sen-
ators.
Congressman SHAYS. No one else laughed. How come?
Senator DODD. Well, I thank you, Chris, for being here.
Congressman SHAYS. Thank you. It is an honor to be with you.
Senator DODD. And it was a great job. As I say, in Connecticut
we were the only state with two former Peace Corps volunteers, I
believe, in the Congress. And we are bicameral and bipartisan in
that sense. So it is a pleasure to have you over here.
I served alone in the Peace Corps. And there were times when
I envied the volunteers who were clustered with each other. But
then again, in the long run, I much preferred the situation where
I was in the sense of really getting into it. I had no choice. But you
really had to learn the language and the culture and so forth to get
along. And that was one of the advantages of being alone as a vol-
unteer.
But in many places, that does not work. And the importance of
having volunteers on joint missions is extremely valuable.
Congressman SHAYS. I wonder if you would allow me to note just
for the record, I got concerned when I saw the Director stand up
and all the staff stand up, that all the staff came back to listen to
our colleagues as well. And I would like the record to show you still
have your Deputy Director here and your chief of staff and others
who wanted to listen to what our colleagues had to say.
Senator DODD. Very good. We note the presence of the Peace
Corps staff in the room. We thank them for being here. I thank all
three of you for your work. And we look forward to your continuing
effort.
And, Dane, you have some work to round up the rest of these co-
sponsors on this bill. So the ball is in your court.
Mr. SMITH. We will get at that.
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