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MUA S 2 {ike » F 14,0001) westett FE BAL Bh pe esmonmaries anoanscsin exmwas exerWELLS 6 ME Pe AR SREB aS 16 Ps Seah (2 RAO 2 Baty Wy,a-t- 36 Bill > REMAN CARB OAME— iE J 31 HAA AMOWTE BTOMBK CS) SSGGB HERR 42 Jeska seat = Kam 89 BR AA Fh— fac (6) 48 RUHL CORAMUM AIL 8 RGAE ERASE 54 venient Tin BE 60 sic eIn WBE £ 64 MADD OF 70 ae 7 AEH: AMZN RAN ES: AIKI NEWS CONTENTS + Stanley Pranin EDITORIAL 4 + Tth Dan Kyoju Dairi KATSUYUKI KONDO INTERVIEW 6 + 9th Dan Swordmaster KIYOSHI NAKAKURA INTERVIEW (2) 16 + Doshu and Daitokan Views RESPONSE TO JOHN STEVENS (2) 6 + Language Study JAPANESE FOR AIKIDOKA (8) % + Minoru Mochizuki Sensei ESSAY ON JIGORO KANO OF JUDO 37 Kanemoto Sunadoma MORIHEI UESHIBA BIOGRAPHY (8) 42 Tokimune Takeda Sensei SOKAKU TAKEDA BIOGRAPHY (6) Gozo Shioda Sensei “AN AIKIDO LIFE" 48 4 + Miyamoto Musashi ESSAY ON “GORIN NO SHO" 0 + News, events, announcements HEARD IN THE DOJO “a + Readers’ Views LETTERS TO THE EDITOR 0 @R= a2 LOSES AT GOO 200FY LEK MASAI Um F9SY 2 IPRA BONE MEA 79 + RE DARE REM WAT MRE GIT FABER = aA F160 MORMRMTREK ARSE «41 +9201 R26(03)359-6265 seNPTUME 7941 AABBUSE (Hi) 2 mB /EDITORIAL by Stanley Pranin DAITO-RYU AIKI JUJUTSU: THE PRESENT STATE OF AFFAIRS This issue will be of particular interest to a large segment of our readers. Several of the featured arti cles in this number deal with the art of Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu and its history. I would like to clarify some of the reasons for this focus on Daito-ryu, the main precursor art to Aikido. The first and foremost reason is a historical imperative imposed by the fact that most of Aikido techniques have as their origin the techniques of Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu. The second is the fact that the major role of this traditional jujutsu school in the development of Aikido has been largely ignored or minimized in treatments of Aikido history. Regular readers of this publication will know that the techniques of Daito-ryu were widely disseminated in Japan beginning in the early 20th century by Sokaku Takeda Sensei. Over a period of some 40 years he taught in literally thousands of locations es- pecially to persons of high social standing. Following his death in 1943 he was succeeded by his son, Tokimune Takeda, who had been prepared for this role from an carly age. Among Tokimune Sensei’s important contributions to the preservation and spread of Daito-ryu are the assignment of individual names to the 118 core techniques of the Hiden Mokuroku which has greatly facilitated the learning process and the establishment of some 60 branch dojos throughout Japan. His efforts have yielded fruits as Daito-ryu is the most widely practiced of tra- ditional jujutsu schools in Japan MAIN TRENDS IN DAITO-RYU TODAY Present day Daito-ryu has evolved in several diree- tions, The main line is represented by Tokimune Takeda Sensei who is based in Abashiri, Hokkaido, and his recently designated representative, Katsuyuki Kondo Sensci. Of close affinity in a technical sense is the Takumakai organization in Osaka which was originally established by Takuma Hisa Sensei an presently under the direction of Hakaru Mori Sensei. 86-year old Yukiyoshi Sagawa Sensei, a direct stydent of Sokaku Takeda represents another tendency Daito-ryu which includes many technical innovations but is taught on a very limited scale to only a few stu- dents. The Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu Kodokai and Daito- ryu Aiki Jujutsu Roppokai headed by Yusuke Inoue Sensei and Seigo Okamoto Sensei, respectively, both trace their roots back to the teachings of Kodo Horikawa Sensei, another one of the senior students of Sokaku Takeda. As in the case of Sagawa Sensei, the Kodokai and Roppokai have developed technical- ly along different lines from that of the main tradition. Also, the Kodokai, principally through the efforts of Katsumi Yonezawa Sensei, has set up a network of branch dojos in the United States. The main tradition, operating organizationally as the Daitokan and overseen by Tokimune Takeda Sensei, is now in a transitional phase due to the ad- vanced age and frail health of the Headmaster. As a result, many of the leadership duties in connection with the operation of the Daitokan have fallen upon the shoulders of Tokyo-based Katsuyuki Kondo Sensei, holder of the 7th dan and the subject ofthis is- sue’s featured interview. Kondo Sensei, the only living kyoju dairi or certified instructor, was recently entrusted with the title of Soke Dairi or official repre~ sentative of the headmaster by Tokimune Sensei, ‘Among his duties will be periodic visits for instruc- tional purposes to branch dojos in Japan and the task of supervising the overseas development of the Daitokan tradition of Daito-ryu including the award- ing of dan ranking certificates. SHIMBUKAN DOJO OF KONDO SENSEI The Shimbukan dojo of Kondo Sensei in Tokyo is quite unique in several respects. It is directly attached to the construction company he operates and many of his employees also practice Daito-ryu. The result is a closely knit group of practitioners, a number of whom have been training side by side for 20 years, The walls of the dojo are graced with several remarkable pieces of calligraphy by the famous 19th century Zen priest, swordsman and calligrapher, Tesshu Yamaoka. An- other rare work displayed in the dojo are the charac- ters Buyu (martial valor) penned by Admiral Isamu Takeshita, an avid practitioner of Aiki Budo and early supporter of Morihei Ueshiba. Despite the historical reluctance of the Daito-ryu school to reveal its techniques to the general public, there has been a recent trend toward a more open stance regarding dissemination of the art. For exam- ple, Kondo Sensei will be making his first US. tour in 1989 and the first video tape introducing Daitokan techniques will be released shortly. He is also opening the doors of his Tokyo dojo to foreigners wishing to engage in serious training in Daito-ryu for extended periods. Kondo Sensei explained to me that he viewed Daito-ryu as representative of a Do or Path and one of any number of appropriate vehicles for conveying Japanese culture. This too can be regarded as a wel- come form of diplomacy for cementing positive ties between Japan and foreign countries in this ever- narrowing world Kondo Sensei speculates that modern Aikido would not exist if it were not for Sokaku Takeda and I be- lieve there is no question but that this is true. 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ER, SRRMOMOIERE CHD IE Ke MERE Lt, BRAGA BAEOAER Birk (RB) ooh eT ARM, CRE CREC DIO ORME 5 DoeOTHR, COMRO WRI L, MR, LOA 7 YIM NS 2 Sct OE Lite HAE, AR IC BOOT 19 AMA? > — AMATI DH ETL, AME DROS C7 + OMABHENSFEL oe. E Poy SOMA DIE AMC CBR LAE ME ABAD TI, AGRMROBOPIA SRE Lite DE Le Bid, AMR AOH ERAT S LOT O. LOO RAT MLORINAIE LUE BCH GL 1d WH LL CHATS od LA, BEA RE SHERI oC, PL CE DEF IRMA TL (Rabie, 59 LAR LS COM RABRUCHS LUA BO CBC L 2 De JEM, RRA LIC RR EMME E Litem 2 EB DNETA, CHOU TH HSK MECH, & Mn PIL ED ARMOR LCC tebe, AS RAE LCRA OAMLENTH DOR, MEMFBLO Ath, SME MING LAR Lim b= 2 CHD, ORI Lik, SOKMMO RU tem ok OTHFLCL 2 BPTANSESHS ERE Tokimune Takeda in action in mid 1960s. SRNR 1960! A young Katsuyuki Kondo (standing right) with hie fist teacher ‘Teunejire Hosono Sensei (standing let) BIOKRROD SERA FI ‘ede ) Esme (BRB ) SYNC abies = Ves Lel = AIKI NEWS: Would you describe Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsu for our readers who are unfamiliar with the ant? KONDO SENSEI: It would be difficult to explain the whole history so I will just touch upon a few points. About 800 years ago there was a man named Saburo Yoshimitsu Shinra residing in the Daito Mansion of the Aizu clan, It is said that he was the Founder of Daito-ryu. The art of Saburo Yoshimitsu Shinra was then transmitted to the Minamoto Fam- ily and then to the Takeda family in Kai (present- day Yamanashi Prefecture). After that it was hand- ed down through the Takeda family as a gotenjutsu (martial art for use inside the palace). On the other hand, in the time of the fourth Tokugawa Shogunate, Ietsuna, Masayuki Hoshina of the Aizu clan, the fourth son of Hidetada, entered the Edo castle as an instructor to the Shogunate family and completed development of the art which came to be known as oshikiuchi. Therefore, the Daito-ryu of the ‘Takeda family and the oshikiuchi of Lord Masayuki Hoshina were transmitted separately. Then in the Meiji period Sokaku Takeda Sensei perfected Daito-ryu by combining the school originated in the KATSUYUKI KONDO INTERVIEW ARMCARH, CO. Takeda family and the school of the Aizu clan. Thus, Sokaku Takeda Sensei is the father of Daito- ryu and should not be omitted from the history of, the art. AIKI NEWS: What are the main differences be- tween Daito-ryu and Aikido? KONDO SENSEI: I don’t think there is any dif- ference, In Daito-ryu too practice begins and ends with courtesy. And its final goal is the spirit of love and harmony. AIKI NEWS: How about technically? KONDO SENSEE: I do not think that there is much difference technically, either. However, there technique named ikkajo in Daito-ryu which consists of 30 different movements of which ten are seated techniques, five hanza handachi (equivalent to hanmi handachi in Aikido) techniques, ten tachiai techniques and five ushirodori techniques. These 30 techniques have individual names. 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RMLROWM, TOMB Tobe Buk tia, PD ACRES. ame RnR DCL a OA SEM ERIE EA ICH DBM HABORBY ET, MO bRA Peet. sola Pati BAR, EBL OAK, HRT ES ACH, CORORA ARMA TO ET. RIC CR ANLD Eo CURT, SHULDusually taught in the beginning. In Daito-ryu too we teach a difficult shinkendori technique at first. This ippondori, | believe, is ikkyo in Aikido and also is related to techniques like shomenuchi ikkyo, katatedor’ ikkyo, ryotedori ikkyo, and so on, Ikkajo has 30 techniques and only the ippondori technique became ikkyo in Aikido. There are 29 other techni- ques such as gyaku udedori, kurumadaoshi, Koshiguruma, and so on. Nikajo, also has 30 techni- ques and only one of them is called nikyo in Aikido. And the case is the same for sankyo. Yonkajo in- cludes 15 techniques and one of them is called yonkyo in Aikido. Gokajo has 13 techniques and one of them is called gokyo in Aikido. Therefore, there are 118 different techniques from ikkyo to gokkyo in Daito-ryu, which are called the Hiden ‘Mokuroku (catalogue of secret teachings) and only five of those techniques were included in Aikido. I would like to clarify these points to avoid any mis- understanding. The difference between Aikido and Daito-ryu in the eyes of the general public is that in techniques of Daito-ryu you must break the balance of your op- ponent the instant you touch him. This is because there is aiki in the technique. Using aiki we break the balance of the opponent. This is a major charac- teristic of Daito-ryu. Another characteristic is its use of atemi, This atemi is also a part of aiki in Daito- sea WNC LEM DEBE 0 CX SORE ORS BLUE Ch. HRHOBS, MEO —TERMCHR ETO & HAC OS LHR DARA BA CUB SUCH, © OID ERO — Bic, A MTEMIT SB, IF HOR, BH) Ric MSEBUET, HAL 3 OKBD, LORD AMD AML D RIL HC, HLMMIRY, HHL, MOL, 29KHSOC To AMID ATH 3 OAK D. 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He was living in Edogawa, Tokyo and his dojo was called the Shin’eikan, When Tokimune Takeda Sensei came to the Shin’eikan dojo I was taught by him as a student of Hosono Sensei. That was the first time I met him. At that time I didn’t know even the meaning of the term soke (headmaster) and I just remembered hav- ing met someone great. However, Tokimune Sensei later said to me that he remembered me clearly from among the many students present. He said, "Mr. Kondo, you were sitting in such and such a position from the left, weren’t you?" He even de- scribed my physique. T'was really surprised. I didw't think I was that conspicuous then. Around 1963 before Fosono Sensei passed away I went to see him in the hospital. There Hosono Sensei said, "After practicing under Sokaku Takeda WL a 5a, COMTHLAMDS BROTH, EX, AMHUTERN RISIC RS EBA ETAL FHC GRAN C5 1) ED, CHO TROT, DBO eT RET OM= 3-2 HU SBT MOSH, 3 .OKMT DROME S CTA, LORIE LCA A BaD ROD, EBT ORF I LRM Sh SBR: BOUIMIS FB ERO tek, RAE DRBO—-A CH SAMI C, HAO ANIC Is PELL, MAEM E LRRD C Lt, SRI RATIO ARGC, EPPA OPT RAE & LCRA Fete DMO THE Lig TAME RRO RMOU ACT, MALI CHIL £5 AR HO PELL, ERR SME ATID Hts EU 5 ROH Ltd 9 Ea Ae EE ADRERENEIE BD LR THENEES O. CIRRRI AD DIF De Cheb FTA BIH > Tht) Lb, LOBE CHA TONSOTH, Ey PUURL te MBER, AAR ORL, AMIESensei, I studied under Kotaro Yoshida Sensei. Kondo, you must study under him now.” Then I went to visit Yoshida Sensei. At that time he was living in a place called Namekawa in Mito, Ibaraki Prefecture. I was still a student so I went there every Saturday afternoon. Since I went to Sensei’s house by taxi from Hitachi station, he found me pretty un- usual. Yoshida Sensei was paralyzed on one side. Although he had no difficulty speaking, his left side was paralyzed. I signed my name in his enrollment book and trained not in his house but in his garden. Sensei sat in the room and taught from there. When I didn’t understand something, Sensei would show a technique with his right hand. However, since he could not use his left hand, he couldn’t execute a complete technique. So I had to do it by myself. In the beginning I was training there alone but I found it inconvenient and decided to train there with one cof my fellow students, Mr, Tomabechi. When T was training under Hosono Sensei I paid on a monthly basis but Yoshida Sensei charged for cach techni- que. For example, after we learned the kotegaeshi technique, we needed to pay for the next technique. ‘When the time came to move to the next technique, Sensei would tell us to change. There were no other students other than Tomabechi and myself. I think it ‘was a very unusual practice method. Sensei taught us very conscientiously. ‘There were many names written in the enrollment books of Yoshida Sensei. For example, the name of Masutatsu Oyama Sensei of Kyokushin Karate ap- pears. However, it is not certain whether Oyama Sensei actualy studied with him or just talked to him. Yoshida Sensei had another scroll which was not from the Daito-ryu school. Representative of his personal techniques were the tessenjutsu (iron fan techniques). Daito-ryu also includes fessenjutsu in the emonodori techniques, but they are not separate techniques. I believe the fact that Yoshida Sensei ARR REVAL : LRBZRAR ARAL TEBS, MORECM KEBLE Toh, Reus BAL, AERA AE te OdL SAT, BEI HL PPT, FEAR HARARE D OM tothe, PAM Bo te, HMR, = BITS UTED MuteSu) LAbhe Lie Elite, Fee Mi, Bes Chit, Mittens oko CAG Ir SEM tea aoe Ls 8 RIC BSE 5 ERE OP HEI: Ke Hin 27 —ChRo TT. WHEE AAC Lite 8H PEA DURE LCE Lites FF ARIE LE Lt, MNBL C, IR OKOKER CR NH LE Lite BAM (5S: MRSHELE. 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AIC MEM D Od CORT EL BO ETON RRR E 9 MeL Bo a Lot Loe $5 OM DwWEH CSET HI, BES Sea IEC BT, AEC R ENT, OOF UM TH ORE BET, RA DHT ORVORMEC, AMOK, FOWL Co hai AWK) 2B 0 CAMCHA DATE Lite BNE FHOMSKACIEHNSHI TH, CHO RERE FCDA L-CHRAIE DB Eto tet, FAR AMELI H BBE ECS otMES HO TET, ROD, had his own fessenjutsu scroll was proof that he con- ducted thorough research into the use of this weapon after having studied with Sokaku Sensei Yoshida Sensei taught us how to use the iron fan and move the wrists emphasizing that this was the important thing in the beginning stage of our train- ing. Using the iron fan you can break a sword with just the movement of the wrist, So, Sensei was really strict about how we moved our wrist. I still have the iron fan Yoshida Sensei gave me for practice. AIKI NEWS: How much did he charge for one technique? KONDO SENSEE | don’t remember at all. 1 was a university student and didn’t have much money and so I don’t think it was that expensive. It was quite a trip to Hitachi though. We went over to Sensei’s house on Saturday and had a little practice that night and then we stayed in an inn and practiced on Sunday beginning in the early morning and then SBI + RAMON Kateuyuki Kondo Sensei with members of the Shimbukan Dojo ARH a—-2! WOM LOM MSMCLE: SERS PRICY ERA, AFCA ste Lice, FAMEBEDHSMMTIDICL L, TALIM HE BUHL, AIEE CHC ORAMEA TT, ERED WICC LIE LTE MMBICIA DEA RC mo EC UTM t. SHORES TH, AER OL Lictthid OME LT, ty ALB LE LE “0 HO EBA, % KRRCOMEA A le fe ROCHON, SER AM RAOMIR EM oe RT, MNBEEO PRELIM A | te ORFS LC APA te BH Lt Enelcame back by train in the evening. Naturally, I had to study after that. I spent the weekend that way. AIKI NEWS: How long did you train there? KONDO SENSEE- I guess it was about two years. I started the "Daito-ryu Aikido Club” at Chiba Kogyo University in 1964 and invited Kotaro Yoshida Sensei to become an adviser. Naturally, since Sensei could not physically come, I was only borrowing his name. Although I didn’t receive any rank from Kotaro Yoshida Sensei, I was given a shikishi (square piece of stiff paper used for writing poems) which says Aiki Budo, He said when he presented it to me that I was receiving it as his last student and that he would teach me everything. However, I don’t think he meant everything including all of the menkyo kaiden techniques or anything like that, I only studied under him for a short period and I don't think I learned very advanced techniques from Yoshida Sensei. But I still keep this shikishi with Aiki Budowaritten on it, Since I learned from Yoshida Sensei that the soke of Daito-ryu was living in Abashiri City in Hok- kaido, later I decided to train there and wrote Tokimune Sensei a letter. I went up to Abashiri in 1966 and stayed there for about ten days. It was the first time I was seriously taught by the Soke. Since hhe was working for a company then, I practiced with him from four to seven o'clock in the morning and KATSUYUKI KONDO INTERVIEW TH. MRRAIKDRERADT, BANNED LU ELK PRED SIRI BRAC LIA, FER HR) Ev 5 RHEE Le, CMR OB FC RCRA SEV I BRE) EB > THO LEVEL LTE IE EL BOR CII ERO E TL MIRC LEG AF CLEA Oe HME DH > KERB TUERA, £0 (ERR) OBES TL BiktoCl et, AMAA, HKAMEMI EA THONG EMT BOELKOT, TOK, MAINT o CHB) LRRD HERPES, FREI LE Lt, ORI 1 MICE BOLL. 10 AMIEL Lic, Tab CRRA ATELY SICH. FELLAMDOH CS > Le ROTM, ABD TRG E EHR OTOL, IAI LE, BW (OBIE —MEE AALS, BAM THB. HOMO T CHE Lic, D1 DEPLECe The BI, MMO BURCH STOR ARAL STOR MMI HEA CSG EE LID T, GRRL ARTA then during lunch time for a short while. Then again starting at six o’clock in the evening I practiced with members of the dojo. After the members left the dojo, the Soke again conducted a special class until 12o’clock midnight! At that time there was a person man Shinpachi Suzuki who was a kyoju dairi (certified instructor) of Daito-ryu living in the Daitokan Dojo. I practiced with this Suzuki Sensei and the Soke, just the three of us. I trained there for a full ten days. By the time I returned to the inn it was already about 12 midnight and I was almost, crawling. The training was that severe. When I was not training, I just slept like a dead man. At night I could not sleep because of the pain in my body. The Soke was at that time around 50 years old. His wrists were as thick as logs. What I felt when I trained there was how little ability I had. In those days I started the Aikido club in the university and was teaching there. I was only in my twenties and I think I was also very conecited. That was the kind of person I was and I actually cried in the Soke’s dojo. Before then my techniques used to work on anyone whether at the university or in the dojo. However, they didn’t work at all on ei- ther the Soke or Suzuki Sensei. I realized my weak- ness and really cried as I was mortified. It's still true now, but I felt that there was a world of difference between my ability and the Soke’s ability. Therefore, 1 am embarassed to call myself Soke Kyoju Dairi ARH PRALA : LABZRARARARCCTERS, REL INHERIT, LOAME, H9e DE Lite MICMSOR, WO] 2H, ATI LUMO EL te SOULE LUM Lite MAO IEL. BERIEA RARICHE CL Litse, BILOBA TUR ESS OBOE Lite LOMMREOEL CME E Lisle ERE CORO, KETO MM-CH HA Mel AMID CH, ES AMARC AT oC. FIC AIA RIC LBM EL, AMC ASOT IOM SEL, (PLC THE CAM ORLHLE LA, SCHES TT LOW, RR LRORMABILO BLEU te blt eC Db Hots L< CR DUR IOEN £ DRIVEL & b> + ALEHA, AMI 3 OMIT LTE TA, FRICAAMIC DINER Ay SMLICTRD RIC YR i Lome BET, RRALOED 6 OLELEDRTSDTTE, & nTn 12 (instructor certified by the headmaster) or Soke Dairi (official representative of the headmaster). Al- though I have been practicing Daito-ryu for over 30 years, my technique is still powerless against the Soke. Objectively speaking, I really believe my ability is far inferior to his. The Soke has been prac- ticing for more than 60 years, you know. And his practice was not haphazard at all. Even now, he swings a thick log every morning. Although he suf- fered a stroke which left him partially paralyzed, he began rehabilitation on his own ignoring the doc- tor’s advice to the contrary and overcame his paralysis. He trained that hard. This is the reason he doesnt lose physical power. AIKI NEWS: We understand that you actually briefly met and trained with Morihei Ueshiba Sensei, Would you tell us about that experience and your impressions of the Founder of Aikido? KONDO SENSEI: I believe it was around 1967 that I met Morihei Ueshiba Sensei at the old Hombu Dojo. This was through the introduction of Soke Tokimune Takeda and I was fortunate to have had an opportunity to train with Morihei Sensei. He was holding a jo in his hand then. I mean he was doing jodoritechniques. Morihei Sensei talked to me ina friendly way and told me to hold the end of the jo he had in his hands, The moment I touched the jol was thrown, It was a beautiful throw. Since I was putting PGMA CHO CT, RRL URI STRONET. RRM CH Oh T. at ORMOR oT OCHA, RHO SDS BMT EL DINED EMSA, SOMMLML TLE DREOT ib, TOL BL, MGR o TOR ET. RICE DOKL IA ORLOUICHSOCT. A GNA C os, Ai eR MEE Rite ht Ee Lica, iO RD WIRED CLECL 2 5m SIG: RIL OMNI C, BRA 2 AEST ER Letra, IARI C, AEM tsee LH ROTH D LU DAMME MAEM LIE, EO SPREE Co LakOet, MLD CT 1, WEA, MEM BH LTRS D. TBO Rebs ok BoE) LRbHE LE. Keone B RURZENE Lich, LOOMMEHITONE Li, AROMAS TE LEM SHAE ENE Listas = PUP ORR eG BEE LE LE Lt a lot of power into my grip of the jo, all of the that power was directed back at me and I was thrown far. Then I talked to Morihei Sensei about various things. AIKI NEWS: Did Ueshiba Sensei talk about Sokaku Takeda Sensei then? KONDO SENSEI: Naturally, he talked about Takeda Sensei but not in detail. He said something like he ad studied Daito-ryu too. I thought that Morihei Sensei was a great teacher, AIKI NEWS: The figure of Sokaku Takeda is a very fascinating one and surrounded in controversy. Would you summarize his importance for Japanese martial arts of the 20th century? KONDO SENSEI: I consider Sokaku Takeda Sensei to have been an unparalleled master. T be~ lieve that without Sokaku Sensei, Aikido would not exist now. In other words, Sokaku Takeda Sensei of Daito-ryu should occupy a position of importance in Aikido history. According to one book I read recently, Daito-ryu didn’t have much of an influence on Aikido and Morihei Ueshiba Sensei only studied the art for a short period. This is incorrect since Morihei Sensei actually studied the art for a long time, from 1915 to 1937. Moreover, he received in- structor certification in the art, that is, the kyoju dairi license and also the goshin’yo no te scroll, — KATSUYUKI KONDO INTERVIEW Ri LOWRAMHRLOM 6B 9 Lied SER SS, MRO BIR LE Lice, BLE Prote Cts Eb AIEEE LEWD ED Tee ton AMEND LUTE E BLE Lite RAMA LICREOS REE EW SMS az ATRL, TMC RORR SE MOU bie CLBHCTA, 2 OKO NAORMR (SRI OMA OW TIGL FEET SBE: NIA SEHELL, RIEMORAD—AEL BLT IRM, BORA Mem ot EB R Te EOC HU, KILO TARIN TAL O MEE SORE CMO CHR Ice LS EBT, RAK A LO RTE, ARPUL ERIC LT WMA CUT N MORRILL ITE HALTOM EV DED Te Emilee TLE Lies etuw OC, BBC, IEA ee AAT DEEwhich was the highest level of Daito-ryu awarded in those days. If you consider these facts, you cannot say that 20 years of practice is a short period of time. 20 years out of one’s life is quite long. Although the Omoto religion was also naturally related to the re- markable progress of Morihei Sensei in Aikido, I am sure that it is no exaggeration to say that without Sokaku Takeda Sensci, Aikido as we know it today ‘would not have come into being. AIKI NEWS: Sokaku Takeda Sensei was really a unique martial artist in the sense that he traveled around Japan for many years instructing only per- sons of high standing such as judges, police and mili- tary officers, ete. What is more, he recorded all of this. I think this is unprecedented. KONDO SENSEI: I believe you are referring to the cimeiroku (enrollment register) and sharciroku (payment received ledger) he kept. As you pointed out, Sokaku Takeda Sensei taught, even from the early 1900s, people like police and military officers, judges and influential persons in the town he hap- pened to be in, Before that the art belonged exclu- sively to the Aizu clan and was never allowed to be shown to outsiders. However, Sokaku Sensei started to teach it to people in general for the first time. Unlike today, at that time it was considered to be a sign of great status to teach at a military institution or a police department. This is because they consid- ORM C, PREM SIT OTL BRE H I AMILOT A SFM GNC 8 DET, HALE BL CAPS MMOAMMORMLOMENLT 2 CHT THOET, LORIMER HIE, 2 0SEMOM TE MM LETREVEBLET. MEOMO 2 0 fIaEIE Rb OCT Ly AMOR RIMES AA AE SOIL, AKARENMMRL TC SEBUETA, TAREE te LICK, BED SMITH 9 HLT TH MA CVEBVET. SMS. MMM REEARS = — 7 CRU fee DEO, MESON Atte), AOE, RET Bate ENO BSI FIEO O CIM Sh, Lhe ee BLROTT AG, (ICME ARV EB ET BE: CHARA ALMOWEL BETA, OI OME, RURMM REMODEL DTCC, RATT HA RAR, WOW DBR RA Tt Lit, Choe CEPR, SPO LOK Ow, BTM Alc He BBCI oR CT 6 ered themselves to be the descendants of Samurai, you sce. I think that during the Mei such a social hierarchy still lingered, it was really a CPRMAL, UME REICH Sem seed, eis BIE CAT CURT Ly MO RR RORR Cle. EO RRA RUBVEOMK IEE LEE BOET, 1 PRK oT >, BAN em ot, WREROMNS Sete, FCDAMORRALERDALERUET, MRE LM DCT. MRE KAT ZOTH, MME DMD (2, KAB CHER PAL OND ob LE, MCHA CUBES OTA, SUA eA RL CBRE BOER Ae STOBHETH, TALKRMM BMI TET,EEE | ATSUYUK! KONDO INTERV) Ss AIKI NEWS: Despite the fact that Sokaku Sensei taught Daito-ryu at police departments in the old ays, we do not hear much about the art of Daito- ryu in police departments today. Is this because he didn’t develop instructors? KONDO SENSEI: I believe that the reason for this is that Sokaku Sensei taught only periodically and also because he did not give individual training. He was in the process of training himself while t in various places. He was a real martial artis sense, Although I have heard recently that there is somewhere, perhaps Sendai, in the Tohoku region where Daito-ryu is taught, I believe that realistically such places are few and far between. Since the art ‘was taught in those places starting in the Meiji Peri- 04, I think Daito-ryu should have been transmitted up to the present. However, itis true that instruction was halted prematurely. We have to take into con- Katsuyuki Kondo Profile | B. in Tokyo, in 1945. First learned Daito-ryu Aiki Jujutsy trom Tsunejizo Hosono and Kotare Yoshida. Later studied under Tokimune Takeda, son of Sokakti ‘Takeda. Currently operater Shimbukan dojo ia Tokyo. SERRE ee SOD 4 IL | PANIES, RNRMO RM, KOSHER, SH ALGO, AMOWM ARMA RRORME MS. REE, KU STMT T A, ama TR: ERA, RURAL RRR CK HOHE SACU bib, BHERMECCEK WEES BLS EMS EA, REM OAT tome DEN SSE CLE Sh SER OE ACR L.A EU Bk tHe Lich het DMD SD TIREL CHO, REEL RAGA LC tebit et. AMOS CTH, (le Pe EME IC, HED BAER 2c tote OBE CBR DCU E UD ABEMIL IS Ea DE Ta, SINCE EDO OMILDIN TL Ste HHS. ARI MID FORE TBO THD. 4-0 OTR E IRIE ® SEBO RTO, Re Chai: ET, ROM HB TKE (Mot cue sideration the fact that the structure of the police changed greatly following the war. Sokaku Sensei also taught judges, prison officers, justices and pub- lic prosecutors, but no dojo has survived today. I think things changed considerably after the war. AIKI NEWS: What is your opinion of the rela- tionship between Sokaku Takeda Sensei and Morihei Ueshiba Sensei? KONDO SENSEI: This is just my personal opinion, but Morihei Sensei studied Daito-ryu for over 20 years and served Sokaku Takeda Sensei as hi master and Sokaku Sensei looked after Morih Sensei as his student in various ways. There are many stories about such aspects of their rela- tionship. In any case, those stories are based on the courtesy of a student towards his master and the af- fection of a master towards his student. This kind of relationship continued for a period of time and at a certain point Morihei Sensei began to seek his own path and eventually created modern Aikido. There- fore, I think that Morihei Sensei was a great person. Tbelieve that anybody who can be called great al- ‘ways exceeds his master. I do not know that Morihei Ueshiba Sensei exceeded his master, Sokaku Takeda Sensei, in terms of real ability, but I think that realistically speaking, Morihei Sensei far ex- ceeded Sokaku Sensei in terms of number of stu- dents and also the extent of his reputation. ARH PROGAZ : LBB CLARA ARAL CTS, LCDSCLs 5, RAE CMBR ORME, ete plore RE bE TORT, Fic otic Ea MOT. RRL MAMMA R (Bo CUBE BUET, A RA ck & ME AEA ODMR OL CHILE D HRI D ETD SE CZ, BCE TOMMADHA CHD, MRE FRAME 2 OFIERNE TTS heC, BNI ate DIS BHER Ly MIRAE IEE, YR Ca 2 mR ees MAMA LMT DET, E55 HEIL CObDOET. OT h bOI F CRT ome PBR 2 AL I tc B6BB-C ERT, eR MAREE A OMe Eh, SEO BAGH M She Lik, Chik hae EEL RAHELEABUET, MALADHSAR, AFOR BATHS OCI TL 2 De BRENNA EE HL SPRATT, MA Shut ES MIE AD EEA, BRI, ROMERO STA, 2S LORE RRBORT, CORBI)In ‘This is the second of a two-part interview with Kiyoshi Nakakura Sensei, 9th dan hanshi in both Kendo and Iaido and one of Japan’s top swordsmen. It was conducted on December 23, 1987 by Editor Stanley Pranin at the residence of Nakakura Sensei in Higashi M Murayama City. School and the Military Police School? NAKAKURA SENSEI: Yes, he also the Naval Staff College sometimes but he did not receive a monthly salary from them, He ved an honorarium every 1 visited these places AIKI NEWS: We understand AHH BrmeoRnTe mimes Kiyoshi Nakakura with Morihel Ueshiba 1995 RR Hain DDD» seccccccccct SIC RILEM Oct BR az HEA comhkES Cha ie Tete teES, OOS FRSC SAMBO T S| Mace eS PERO RL. METRE LAY, Rise FRORF ELH S HORA BALE EES. SBS. BRERE SO fe 4PGFO SRR ORT E8 FICS SMBBSOMRICE o BIC OU TM 2Tb5 0k. Bi LORS FMBKiyoshi Nakakura that Admiral Isamu Takeshita studied under Ueshiba Sensei for along time. NAKAKURA SENSEI: While I was at the Ueshiba Dojo, he was an adviser to the Kobukan or something of the sort. T met him many times and also visited his house. He was present at my wedding as well. He also prac- ticed at the dojo. I understand that he left some 2,000 pages of notes of Ueshiba Sensei's techni- ques. AIKI NEWS: Of course we now call the art “Aikido” but in those days a different name was used, I believe. NAKAKURA SENSEI: The art was called "Daito-ryu” because of the connection with Sokaku ‘Takeda, Then a few years later it was changed to Aikido, It seems that while I was there, various names were used for the art. For example, "Aioi-ryu” or "Aiki Budo” and so on. I'think that the name "Aikido" was used quite a bit later. The dojo was built be- fore I enrolled but its name was changed to the Kobukan while I was there, probably around 1932 or 1933, The land used to be part of a mansion called the "Tsugaru” which was owned by a lord of Aomori Prefecture. The Ueshibas used to rent a section of about 100 tsubo (one tsubo 3.954 sq. yds.). 1 think it wa around the time I was leaving the dojo that they were asked to buy the land and they AIKI NEWS: How did Admiral Takeshita support Ueshiba Sensci? NAKAKURA SENSEI: When I was there Ueshiba Sensei never received money from him or any- thing like that. Sensei used to receive a gift during the tradi- tional bon summer period and the end of the year from Admiral ‘Takeshita and that was all. There was an association named the “Harada Sekizenkai’ which con- tributed funds to places like the Ueshiba dojo and a man called Osumi who was an admiral was the president, Admiral Takeshita told Mr. Osumi about the Ueshiba dojo and the dojo used to receive 100 yen per month from this association. 100 yen at that time was quite a sum, I im- agine that Admiral Takeshita ‘was around 70 years old then. AIKI NEWS: | belicve there were navy officers practicing at the dojo who had connections with the Omoto religion such as Admiral Seikyo Asano. NAKAKURA SENSEI: The Kiyoshi Nakakura Inter vie wv MMIII ep) NNN NHN MHA MMHG JK ea > fos bfilbas LCA, Mico toes, Matron tei ote tf NEALE O. SIRE oo, BE tro oun site tire Bs tA CU ED m2 > ASHE Lt: mR (REA WRIT, SHRIKE HE. BILLIE CHIBI) OE RoR or pe 100 WELD -CU OCHA BMH Che BALI 3 tom, aL 19, Wotact. ARS a2 MAHL D te OME De Ae He hea: ELON re AR BC Be Mo te ‘ i DBO ECT, MEMO Airc RBS mM AA WF BAd Ek PGI 9. SMI 00 FI EL, MBF 1 0 OFZ oh, LOREAL, TOFEC n EBA, Us Lite REFIE AS (HCH ) JARO TAL FOROS LEOT KAMIRHLE SA wma eat BL. BR atom pil, BO ks HERES. CHAT OAICTA, LL, te PE 2ROL, BiBU 5 RUEARET Lud LSB tht BL kA BRAOR LALOR e DD B beta, A: BRL OFDM? MAIL OL 2ABA, ABUT PRRPR, 175.0: 0- 20S MMO Hoth tee = te fe Oe LU Fe Fa RYT OF Ck ger Ct MOE SMa. Sh tO PCE AAR RL th re 80 Fete $%) APRESS o ATH‘OUULU VANUATU Uc 18 Omoto religion did have a posi- tive influence on Mr. Ueshiba as well as on Aikido. However, there were some negative aspects too. I think it is because Mr. Ueshiba was an Omoto believer that he created such divine tech- nigues and also came to hold such a faith, So these are pluses. However, from our standpoint, a religion responsible for an inci- dent of lese-majeste is questionable. Actually, though, I don’t know now whether the ac- tivities of the religion were really disrespectful to the Emperor or not AIKI NEWS: We understand that the second Omoto incident of 1935 (where the pre-war Japa- nese military suppressed the Omoto religion destroying much of its property) put Ueshiba Sensei in a very difficult situa- tion. Do you know anything about the matter? NAKAKURA SENSEI: In the Omoto im ent of 1935, Onisaburo Deguchi Sensei as ROCHE SBME L169 HINA MRP DDE tA TT. EO HPSS Li, RHO REC, BE BRUT, SatOMRER (FoR #) Cho RRMA (ODE REAPER TRO CT. SARMESAD: MMB IS tc cela TS ACh, SACMMEAA, MME S ARRMT DIS, EPR RH LC PEI LMoRLTT, ShcA BSALB RATT. BR 2 Ks MTL TORARL Rub Limetm ha L5H, MRDIROSA DK RCL, RUIAGRICS >, BEA AOI Lice MEAD EE 1, KADOMRMR THOR L, Picks te ME eS MeMM AS Bi well as his wife, the second suc- cessor of the religion, were ar- rested. Also, the Osaka police department was ordered to ar- rest Ucshiba by the Ministry of Internal Affairs, At that time he was instructing police officers in- cluding a Mr. Kenji Tomita who was then the chief of the Sonezaki Police Department and who later became the head of the Criminal Law Bureau. Mr. Tomita knew that Mr. Ueshiba was not the sort of person who would involve himself in a lese- majeste affair. Mr. Tomi sisted that if they were going to arrest Mr. Ueshiba, they would have to arrest him first. It was because of his efforts that Mr. Ueshiba was not detained. AIKI NEWS: Was Ueshiba Sensei in Osaka at that time? NAKAKURA SENSEI: That's right. His wife, Hatsu, was also there. I was in Tokyo. Kis- shomaru was here also. In the Ueshiba dojo there were shrines dedicated to Omoto deities and a VOLE TB RAT Fe MES A nts oats Locke BOTH, SHURA BAL THT LE OATH, Mbt ee ak DLT [EAREELTONN DCTH) EMCOCTA, LEE Ls BBR Bts B OMe NTE IRIE EVDELT, Thy MBAR! Mo CHER ORR PEA TL Re SLEOMMEAMUED, Beit Hote ote BURT, MOU tem Dt bME CE LRM OTH. AMAA IMOT LE HE PREMIO MIL <2 9 Litem shar 4 othe, ORR EL SRAM ot LOWRY HD ERAT Like WFR SA MARLEE Tit Ih atimb ot. AMS 12 ME ORLOR many framed calligraphic works by Reverend Onisaburo Deguchi hung on the wall. They were things which Mr. Ueshiba valued highly. However, I tore all of them down and burned them. The live-in students were sur- prised and asked me if it was all right for me to do so. However, it had nothing to do with being right or wrong. To hang up or display such things was a lese- majeste affair, you see. If Mr. Ueshiba’s wife was present then, I don't think I could have done such a thing. I could only do it because nobody was there. AIKI NEWS: How many cal- ligraphic works by Onisaburo Deguchi were burned then? NAKAKURA SENSEI: There were about four. There weren't many works by Onisaburo Deguchi in Tokyo. That was be- cause Admiral Takeshita disliked the Omoto religion. AIKI NEWS: We understand that Ueshiba Sensei went to in- ae: Pe ARBRE. MMIC ICUS Lise Lad ots OTL CTA, FEM CHE BRR CRT che: ME AeA AMP MBIC BIST DATES EAM CTS SERIES A, ORF ORS ADEM ET VOTH BRB! TIS TS Mallee (HAS) LOS cE -caERS ROTI TL a a AMIE SABRE PRIA L otk, Anis Ete TPO deo tHEhMhot, MEA AIA THERETO CH AHO FRAP CRATE, FRR SRROMSL SoTL ROT Fetite GR ORAARA, CH SETA, Ch. RAMBLES APE LAKE Loot BR a—z WSARRWRAstruct at the Noma dojo of the Kodansha Publishing Company. There were many photos taken at this Noma dojo which have survived. NAKAKURA SENSEI: Actual- ly, Ueshiba Sensei never went to instruct at the Noma dojo. The son of Seiji Noma (founder of the Kodansha Company), Mr. shi Noma, used to train at the dojo in Wakamatsu-cho. I think Ueshiba Sensei demonstrated Aikido there rath- er than taught it. It seems that Seiji Noma practiced Kendo in is youth but he was no longer doing it when we came to know him. He apparently was putting his energy into his son, Hisashi. He didnt even have his son go to middle school but insisted he would educate his own child by himself. He thought that it would be a problem if his son was edu- cated poorly and so he had tutors come to his house to have him study with them. Therefore, Hisashi Noma only graduated Kiyoshi Nakakura Interview MINIMUM ¢t@@y))0n0 Mn mtn nit Hitec 2 oth 8 EBB cas Ep Fa RAO ECM LACT. AH (SARIS (HULME O IE ) OPLAT Lite FROUDE OCT. B EDO LORE, HORTA S Mi, BOT OHS CAMMCL < te DE Lite MMA Lit, Ft o ROM MM OLE CT Le RAMBO E OR= az MMIC ONC POOR L SL 2 sha TRIER SeEA, REAL IL WMARG MMLC ATL BA, CH. THD, MESA REED SUVE LK, REREBH MMO DSIRE SLAIN Cet DCT. LOMEAUR LI. MOR from elementary school. AIKI NEWS: We understand that Mr. Hisashi Noma partici- pated in the Tenranjiai (ourna- ment in the imperial presence). NAKAKURA SENSEL: He won the event in 1934. He was a stu- dent of the Yushinkan dojo. He ‘went to train there when he was a child and was one year older than me. He died of cancer of the rectum at the young age of 30. He was a great man. If he were still alive he would be the president of the Kendo Federa- tion now. AIKI NEWS: Do you know any- thing about Sokaku Takeda Sensei? NAKAKURA SENSEI: Sokaku Takeda Sensei would never fail to contact Ueshiba Sensei if he didn't send him money for living expenses. That was the reason Mr. Ueshiba used to send him money. One time when Ueshiba Sensei happened not make a payment, Sokaku Sensei came to CIA He AIMEE RAOCH TAS L, REE AE FUBOPM LBA DOCH SOW CRUE MDE RELY ACT, ZN CREME oT FET] 26 DEL CHORAL WHOCT (K). SUCRE OR FIRS DDR CBSA CIOS ERO CMD, WETIC Ret oct, Sho Rae MEME A Af oR MEM K OT, KDA Tote EROROCT, AMOMBIET > DEMS OC, MA TMALO AR RIC A DCO ELELEDICH, ZHK BIST RA CHEE Lt. ABE WOUREMOAT, SRCMESA ERIN AUK TRE CH TEROTH, TOK, MESA Tebedsb, PAEEIC RR Cote l BAS DOMBELTRBI L, EONHD visit him at the Kobukan. I was there then. I heard something that sounded like an argument going on at the gate and went out of the dojo to find Takeda Sensei pushing a taxi driver into a gut- {ert It seems that the driver said something about money to Sokaku Sensei and so Sokaku got ‘mad at him and pushed him into the gutter. (Laughter) So T apologized and paid the driver his money explaining that Sokaku Sensei was just an old martial artist. Then, Sokaku Sensei asked me where Ueshiba Sensei had gone and I replied that Sensei had gone down to Osaka. Next he asked where in Osaka he had gone and I ans- wered that he went to instruct at the Asahi Newspaper dojo. Sokaku Sensei immediately went down to Osaka. This was around 1933. Mr. Ueshiba returned to Tokyo because Sokaku Takeda Sensei went there. After Mr. Ueshiba returned to Tokyo no one was left in Osaka to teach. So Sokaku Sensei decided to stay J 0 AH BARI CH, ECA MRLOR ECR (ABR DRE ZR, OV CRAIC Lt ) ELDAR. 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