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MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST PETER BUCK BRINGS
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served rock's eardinal rule: Not
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(Ou OF Time, With their new telewse, Auto.
taic For The People, REM. deliver the
soads once again. I's one of those moody
psyche each time you Tisten. And hey, it
rocks in spots ton,
Peter Buck's supple guitar work play
no small role in creating and sustaining all
these moods. Wheiher singer Michiel Stipe
is ranting at Republicans or meeting And
Kauffiman in the afterlife, Buck's got atex-
8 ture or rfl to sut the occasion. Other
§ tatists might find i imiting 10 work with
rolific lyricist. ("Less room for solos,
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dul.”) But Buck Finds it liberating. Stipe's
wordseapes are alway’ opening up new
sonic vistas, virgin canvases that call fo
fresh s- And colorssare what Peter
Buck does best
Automatic For The People is named af
the motto of the boys" favorite down-home
soul Food joint back in Athens. Bu REM.
travelled tar from home to make their new
cor, cutting tacks in New Orleans, Seat
tHe, Miami, Atlanta and Bearsville. Ne
York, “We just lik
a new city each time we work
Buck. sp
Pim the kind of person who likes to pack
GUITAR WORLD: Do you ha
PETER BUCK; You've got 1
cisco and New Orleans. New Yor
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bout
been in tly and Spain, Everyone
likes Amsterdam becau
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hats half of what everyone does there: wet
stoned.
{Gw: There are the sex shows,
BUCK: Yeah, and I don’t dig that cith
Basically everyone goes there to get stoned
and look at buildings
GW: You look at naked cornices and
las
BUCK: Yeah, that firmness of architecture
ew: You play a lot of acoustic guitar on
written on mandolin or bourzouki, But when
it eame time to record them, I just felt 1
‘wanted to do more guitar playing. Man:
dolin is really grea, but i's so distinetive
hat it tends to dominate every sone it'son
So songs like “Man On The Moon” and
The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite” were wri
ten on bouzouki or mandolin, but the
hem. [ike acoustic instruments lot, And
tw play them a lot on this record. But
here's lot of electric guitar buried under:
GW: Since when have you been playing
‘big mandolin, you
tracts Michael if 1
e mandolin, Th
high pitched it doesn't really support his
ay. So 1 got a bouzouki
ike a
guitar. F tune the bouzoukiPETER BUCK
tuning that a friend taught me, I's just G.
D, G, D—so most of the the chords have
jus two notes in them. 1s really good for
one staff Russian str. “Monty Got A
avs Deal” isin that tuning.
GW; So that’s the bouzouki we hear 0
there?
BUCK: On “Monty” it's bouzouki. There's
bouzouki and mandolin on “Man On The
Moon” as well as about cight guitars
‘lot of
BUCK: Only on some of the songs—like
Tgnoreland,” “Try Not To Breathe" and
‘Man On The Moon.” But alt of thy
are 0 intimate an inward that we tried to
foverdub a little as possible, “Drive™ has
nly one acoustic guitar, which was record
. And! then there
‘Sweetness Follows” is just
ita with ile layers of feedback
eds part ofthe basic
's just one overdub:
underneath, And on a fot of other songs,
st played one part
‘Owe [really like your lead one on “Drive
BUCK: Yeal, that’s sort of my tribute 10
Brian May. I's « Les Paul through a big
Marshall, overdubbed six times in a row
and picked with a coin, We thought ofits
unofchestral part—kind of a Queen thing.
And Brian M than English six
pence, I'm sure it's some kind of three
thousand- year-old coin, But T just used
Jim and overdubbed the riff six or seven
times. As Lrecall, se bounced all that down
tanned them pretty
together in the mi.
ow, “T
BUCK: Well it's kind of ironic, in that it's
probably the least rock and roll song you
ould possibly write, But the Iyries say
Hey kids, rock and roll’—in a very lack-
tadaisieal Say: don’t know if you want
tke it cynically oF not. There's just that
layer of ambiguity you usually get with us,
GW: There's a sense of distance from the
audience there: Michael's deadpan voice
“Hey kids,
Yeah, that's just us, the way we
things. We wouldn't write [citing
par
pros
the Kiss song] "Rock and roll all
ty every day
Think I played iti
But that’s not the way we write, I person:
aly never would have thought we'd ever
mean, that's
and in i
use the words “rock and roll” in
GW: Speaking of rock and roll, what was it
Tike working with John Paul Jones? [The
Led Zep bassist wrote string arrangements
far Automatic For The People. |
BUCK: It was great, Afterall the things I've
read about Led Zeppelin, lexpected he'd be
carrying a lot of that emotional b
with him, But aot at all. He
st showed up
with the charts, They wete great charts, and
‘he was areal gentleman. I mean, he’s notre
cent about the Fact that he was in Led Zep-
pelin, But i's not his main topic of conver-
sation either. After us, he did the Butthole
Surfers, So ear
Gow: Were you a big Led Zeppelin fan?
BUCK: I auess it's hard not tobe. hate all
the people that imitated them afterward.
But I liked Led Zeppelin a Jot. | admired
hal they could tr alo of di
folk songs, big heavy metal tracks, blues
naybe he's having a weird
ute psychedelic songs...
wasn't a huge metal fan when L was
enager, but | always respected Led Zep
pelin. And they sound pretty damn good in
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that all of the rock cfitics ofthe day were
putting them down and calling them stupid
‘while praising al these other records that
were supposed to be intellectual and cool,
ind that time hasa’t treated
well at all. And Led Zeppelin’s records
sound really great today’
GW: Did you talk bout that with John?
BUCK: Yeah, “cause | was reading this hook
of [rack critic Robert Christgau's Seven
ties’ rock record reviews. John looked at
the book, wineed and said, “Does it men:
tion Led Zeppelin at all? How'd we do” |
said, “Pretty good: all B plusses and A
sinuses.” And he said, "Oh man, we nev
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AMD THE PSYCHEDELIC explosion of new
troups making their debut in the charmed
‘World that was London, 1967, was qua
‘et called The Pink Floyd. In small, smoky
clubs like UFO and the Roundhouse, the
Toyd galvanized the London scene with
their extended, free-form instrumental
sams. Fle
ing Hlower children grooved 1o
the heady new Sounds in rooms that seem
to bob and levitate as blobs of multicolored
liquid light melted the walls around them,
Perhaps even more than Cream and the Jimi
Hendrix Experience (1wo more groups who
debuted in °67) The Pink Floyd were
psychedelia personified,
x. however, the bi
the rapidly de
to contra
rating mental condition
brilliant-but-unstable a
In 1968 The Pink Floyd
their name—and they dropped Syd
Barrett. Guitarist David Gilmour, an old
school friend of Sys, was drafted to
replace him. Unguestionably, Barrett
ented The Pink Floyd, and his troubled
senius would later furnish the subject mia
{er for some ofthe band’s best songs. But
it was David Gilmour and his lyrical guitar
‘work which provided Pink Floyd with the
sonie signature that helped carry ther to
ational stardom in the Seventies,
the smoky clubs of their swinging
London days gave way vast arenas and
“When the three of us sit
down and play, it sounds like
Pink Floyd. There’s a very
distinct value in that, which
was important for me to
discover. There's something
there that’s bigger than any
one person's ego.”
——
stadiums, The Ployd’s trippy instrumental
textures evolved to new levels of complex:
ity, perfectly complementing their other
worldly concent visuals,
Pink Floyd's next big erack-up didn't
‘occur until 1985, when David Gilmour and
Waters came toa bitter part
'-Gilmour assumed sole lea.
hand in 1987, With Waters's
brooding lyrics out of the mix,
searing, expansive guitar style
mous
the core of
the band’s sound since its Flower Power
days —assumed an eve
These days, David Gilmour i a distin-
haired English gentleman
0 becomes instantly youthful once he
set
uitar in his hands, To celebrate
Shine On (Columbia), the new Pink Floyd
boxed set, Gilmour consented to share
some of his memories with Guitar World,
Shine On really isa cause for celeb
LLavishly packaged and loving!
the box contains pristine di
ings of seven entire Floyd albums 4A
Saucerfel OF Secrets, Meddle, Dark Side Of
The Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals
The Wall and A Momewary Lapse Of Rec
son), There's also a whole dise of previo
ly hard-to-find early singles, including Syd
classics like “See Emily Play.” “Amold
Layne.” "Candy And A Currant Bun” and
Scarecrow.” Now, set your controls forthe
heart of the sun and seitle hack as the ami
able Mr. Gilmour conducts ti
through 25 years of Floydian history
ip back
GUITAR WORLD: Long before Pink Floyd.
you and Syd Barrett hung out together in
ein Cambridge, playing guitars. Can
you recall war you played or how you
influenced one another?
DAVID GILMOUR: We
hen we picked up guitars later on, I was
playing professionally in groups before
Syd. So technically speaking, ! was.a litle
better than Syd when we
colDAVID GILMOUR
We sat around learning Beatles songs,
Rolling Stones songs, r&b, blues songs.
in recall spending some time working on
“Come On,”the first Stones B-side or what
ever it was, working all that out, playing
hharmonicas and stuff. He'd know some:
, T'd know something and we'd just
1a people do in back rooms every
Where, He then left that college and moved
up to an art college in London, which is
‘when Pink Floyd then got formed
GW: There's a famous story about Syd
being phased out ofthe band in 1968. You
were all in a van, going to a gig in
Southampton,
‘GILMOUR: Not ina van, no, In a Bentley
GW: Righl. And someone said, “Oh, let's
rot pick up Syd tonight.” C
tecall who said that?
GiLmoUR: Probably Roger. Certainly not
rme—I was the new boy. I was in the back.
jomeone probably said, "Shall we go and
pick up Sy?" And Roger probably sain
conspiratorial tones}, “OR no, let's not!”
‘And off we went down to Southampton
‘We were playing with the Incredible String
Band and Tyrannosaurus Rex that night
‘GW: In the carly days of Pink Floyd, did you
Feel like you were just a Syd surrogate?
GitmoUR: Oh, T was; to question about i
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They wanted me to play his parts and sing
his songs. Nobody else wanted to sing the
and I got elected, That was my job—a far
as live shows were concerned, anyway. Me
and Syd played together in only five gis
Pink Floyd. Or maybe four. Maybe
Southampton was supposed t be the llth
fone; | don’t remember. While allthis was
happening, we were also trying to make the
new album, A Saucer Of Seerets. But ive,
wwe didn’t play the tracks from that, but vie
tually all Syd’s stuff. Because there wasn't
anything else to do, I was either that or back
to Bo Diddley covers.
“A SAUCERFUL OF SECRETS"
A Saucerful Of Seerets(1968}
‘ow: Let's talk about the ttle track from A
Saucerful Of Seerets. What made the band
decide to take ona lengthy, abstract inst
‘mental like that?
GILMOUR: That's hard to say. | had just
joined the group shortly before that, I don't
think the band rally knew quite where they
‘wanted to go after Syd"s departure. "A
jaucerful OF Secrets” was a very impor-
tant track; ¢ gave us our direction forward
If you take “A Saucerful OF Secrets,”
“Atom Heart Mother” [Atom Heart Moth
cr, 1970], and “Echoes” [Meddle, 1971|—
i lead logically w Dark Side Of The
Moon, "A Saucerful” was inspired when
Roger and Nick [Mason, Pink Floyd's
ddrummer| began drawing weird shapes on
‘apiece of paper. We then composed music
based on the structure ofthe drawing
GGw: You mean you used the drawing to dia-
gram the dynamics?
GILMOUR: Yeah. We tried to write the
‘music around the peaks and valleys of the
art, My ole, suppose, was to try and make
ita bit more musical, andl to help creat
balance between Formlessness and struc
lure, disharmony and harmony.
GW: Yours was fairly conventional hack
round; your previous group, Jokers Wild,
‘was essentially a cover band. Can you recall
\what your response was to this more avant
ardc approach to music?
ILMOUR: Well, | 3s aware of what Pink
Floyd was. Fd known them all for quite «
long time before then, so was expecting it
to be strange and avantgarde. I don’t have
any particular memory of saying, “Oh no,
this is awful.” [think rather enjoyed the
paces.
GW: Producer Norman Smith wasn’t 100
keen on “A Saucerful OF Secrets,” was he?
GILMOUR: No, Norman worked as an engi
reer on the Beatles and had seen one of
‘contemporaries, George Martin, move up (0
the pinnacle of success by producing the
Beatles. That was the route he wanted to
take, He ried that out with us an the Pret
ty Things, One of us was supposed to
become the next Beatles. But you know.THE ULTIMATE PINK FLOYD
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| his larger-than-life sound.
BY JIMMY BROWN,
Daw GiuMouR isthe dean ofthe less:
mere school of rock gultar. Like jazz
‘trumpeter Miles Davis, the soft-spoken
Englishman speaks volumes with @
handful of notes, more than many of
today's techno-shredders do. with
dozens. His guitar sive s characterizes
by simple, huge-sounging riffs, gutsy,
welkpaced solos and rich, ambient
chordal textures. Where marty rock gu
tarists ty to impress their listeners with
| fash and sheer speed, Gilmaur—tke
Jimi Henerix—rits them over the head
with an unstoppable, biggerthan-ife
Sound, His Solos on such Pink Foy clas-
sics as "Money," “Time” and “Comfort
‘ably Numb" cut through the sonic ar
\waves lke @ laser beam through fog.
Davie recently sat down with us, Strat in
hand, to share some of the secrets
behind his soulful, polished lead style
‘and rich chord work. His observations
‘wore Insightful and his comments —ike
his solos—were simple and direct.
{asked David how he gets such a wal:
inglead sound. “I usually use fuzz box,
a delay and @ bright eq setting,” he
fopliad. “To get that kind of singing sus-
tain, though, you really need to play
loud—at or near the feedback thresh
old, W's Just so much more fun to play
when you have a good guitar sound—
when bent notes slice right through you
|| lke a razor blade.”
| One of Gilmour's biggest assets as a
lead guitarist is his intuitive sense of
phrasing. Rather than just spewing forth
a string of licks, he'll bulld a solo by
developing a few simple ideas. David
equates soloing with storytelling, anc
‘often resorss to scat singing to capture
|| raw melodie ideas before he even picks
up his guitar.
“Til sometimes sing a solo onto tape,
then go back and learn iton the guitar,”
Gilmour revealed. “Another thing I'l do
‘tp generate some Ideas is record sever.
a improvised soles over a rythm track,
‘than go back and develog certain licks—
many of whieh are accidental discover-
|es—and ‘ry to put It all together into
some sort of cohesive statement.”
‘A prime example of Gilmour's story
teling approach to soloing can be found
| In Figure 4, an excerpt trom his classic
“Another Brick In The Wal (Part M)" (Thecums cris Wain solo. Staying primarily within the D
‘minor pentatonic Scale, David mesmer.
izes the listener with haunting, bluesy
bends, dramtic sting rakes and funky
sdouble-stops. Note his deliberate use of
silence and melodic repetition through-
‘out. Particularly noteworthy Is the way
he adorns his phrases with a natural,
vvocabike vibrato,
“You bend @ note, hold it then shake
Itt Gilmour explained. "t's kind of lke
‘the way classically trained singers hold
anote for a couple of seconds, then add
Vibrato. I've always enjoyed listening to
guitarists who do that well—players lke
Peter Green,
"A lat of young players today have
‘such awful vibrates. They're elther too
rigiculousty wide or too fast and nervous
‘sounding. Someone once described Eric
Clapton's vibrato as ‘cultured.’ That's
{he king of vibrato I've always liked. I've
never consciously analyzed it or prac-
ticed! it. There's just a way that feels
right to me and a way that feels wrong,
‘The excerpt llustrated in Figure 1 also
serves as a great example of Glimour's
signature precision bending technique,
pariculary the soulul twoane-shalfstep
‘compounébendandelease in bars 10
and 14 (Phatas A and B), "This kind of
bend is much easier to execute on the
2nd string than on the 4st,” David
advised. Notice how he uses three fir
ers to bend the string. This reinforced
Fingering provides him with more strength
with which to push the string and better
rreunes control over the note’s pitch. Notice also
In Phota B how David anchors his thumb
{round the top sige ofthe fretboard, This
helps keep his hand stationary as the
fingers gush ageinst the string.
For those who are having trouble zero-
ingin on the "terget pitches" inthis com-
bound bend (D, E and), try playing them
= free isl first as unbert fretted notes on the 8
string at the 15th, 47th and 48th frets,
‘Roun "eoMFORTASLY NUME BRIOGE GUITAR SOLD 7 especies. Compas each bent nate
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‘This pitch comparison method wall hela
‘rein your eers and fingers for precision
bending
Another key element of Glmour’s lead
style is his jucicious use of double- and
‘ple stops (two and three-note chords},
particularly those formed by barring atin.
{er across the top two or three strings.
David demonstrated this technique by
playing @ meaty double-stop lick similar
to a lead fill heard in “Shine On You
(Crazy Diamond (Part I)” (Fig. 2). Instezd
of playing the lick in position, he travels
Uup end down the neck on the ist and
2nd strings, exploiting their bright,
‘wangy timbre and convenient barre fin-
ering for playing fourths,
Though he lacks any formal musical
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Understanding of chora/metody rela:
tionships, as evidences by his brilliantly
‘constructed bridge solo in “Comfortably
Numb” (Fig. 3). Notice Now he outines
‘he underiving triads without sounding
methodical. “1 know all te relationships
between the melody notes and the
chords—what the “sweet’ notes are in
the tlads and so forth—but | try not to
ink about them too much.” Devid says.
viously, if you're unsure what to do,
playing off the chord shape is safe
bet”
‘One of the keys to Gilmour's soulful,
Wailing sound is his subtle manigulation
‘of the vibrato bar. Unike the hordes of
whammy wankers who violently clutch
‘and jerk their bars like a child taking out
her frustrations on a rag doll, Gilmour
ently caresses nis. He regularly uses
the bar to produce 8 natural, vocaHlike
vibrato, an effect otherwise achieved by
ccrefully bending and shaking a string
\witn the fent hand (bend vibrato). Using
the bar to shake a bent noteis especialy
Useful when the bend is ahaitstep or at
the top tret—two situations in which
implementing an even, relaxed bend
vibrato with just the left hand can be
quite cffcut.
‘Most of Gilmour's Stratocasters (he
‘owns many, Including the very frst one
built!) sport “sawed-off” whammys that
are apgroximately half 28 long as the
Standard gatden-variety vibrato bar. For
‘quick aocass, he sets the bar so that it
stays more-orless parallel tothe strings.
Unfortunately, the guitar we supplied
David with for this lesson came
equipped with @ standara fulbiength
viprato ber
“My bar is only about naif as long,
David explained. "| have it set so thet i
stays in place under my hand when I'm
rot using ft. | don’t have to reach down
and grab it R's ight there ready to use
tniess | move it dawn’ [Photo ©)
‘One of the things that makes
Gilmour's solos so unique is the fact
that he's basicaly ablues guitarist play.
ing in a progressive artrock context. “I
started out listening to players like Lead:
belly, Haulin’ Wolf and Pete Seeger, anc
later moved on to B.8. King, Peter Green,
Claptan ana Hendrix." David nated.
These influences, particulary the last
+wo, were no doubt the main inspiration
behind Gilmour's psychedalic blues weit
ingin his “Money” solo Dark Side Of The
‘Moon), Figure 4 is an excerpt from his
first 2&-bar chorus (a standard 120°
‘inorblues form extended by staying on
‘each chord for twice a6 many beets.
Using only @ hanatul of notes from the 3
minorpentatonic scale (B, D. E, Fi At,
Gilmour briliantly constructs a themat:intuitive
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a few nasty-sounding bends. Notice now
he bullds upon his intial idea and paces
himself. pausing brietly ater each
Phrase as if to let the listener "digest"
Itbefore moving on.
David's dark, bluesy solo in “Time”
(Dark Side OF The Moon) Is a master
Biece of phrasing and motivic develo.
ment, Figure 5 depicts his frst 16 bars,
Again, notice how he paces himself
throughout and builds upan his initial
idea while leaping into the upper regis-
ter with tenured overbends, soulful quar-
ternotetriplet arpeggios and an impec-
cable bar vibrato
Gilmour's uncompromising quest ror a
fat gultar sound carries over to his chord
‘work as well. “RUN Like Hell” (The Wai,
“Breathe” (Cark Side OF The Moon) and
“Welcome To The Machine” (Wish You
Were Here) are but a few of the many
Pink Floyd songs that feature shimmer
ing. wallotsound rythm guitar tracks,
Pan of Gilmour's secret in this regard
lies in is wise use of open stings. Take.
for example, the majestic “Wish You
Were Here” riff (Fig. 6). This simple, yet
compeling, rhythm figure features a
warm, resonant open-gasition bassline
melody beneath a hypnotic, droning
chord. Notice how the chord takes on
different harmonic implications 2s the
Dassuline melody moves from & [EMT] to
D4G/D) to A Asus),
Another case in point is the instantly
recognizable, spine-tingling, four-note
‘moti rom "Shine On You Crazy Diamond
(Part I) (Wish You Were Here) (Fg. 7.
“I stumbled upon that one by accident,”
sald David. Paying ine E and G nates on
the open ist and 3ra strings enables,
him to sustain al four nates and explo
the iwangy resonance of the open
strings, This datk, haunting tone cluster
formed the instrumental nucleus of what
was to become an epic song in nine
“movements.” An obvious autgrowth of
this motiis the mysterious sounding fin-
gerpicked accompaniment behind the
‘Sax solo In "Shine On You Crazy Die
mond (Part ¥)" (Fg. 8)
“lluse any trick I can,” Davia candialy
proclaimed as he played the shimmering
tkelele-ike rift shown in Figure 9. This,
‘gure, similar to a fill heard in “Breathe
{Dark Side OF The Moon) is anatner |
example of Gilmour's resourcetuluse ot |
‘open stings together with fetted notes
In the upper fretboard region. “I'm sim
ply sliding the open A? shape up an
en
ger[REUREE “SHEN YOU CRAZY SIAMOND PART VI" FNGERPICKED ACCOMPANIMENT octave,” David pointed out (Photo D).
om "italways amazes me when some kid
£ 3 Fete comes up to me and shows me how ‘|
ALi fF1 played something.” Gilmour comment: |
«ed. "I's usually some ridiculously com> |
plicated way that 'd never even consit |
ered.” As | had seen several different |
transcriptions of the arpeggiated intro |
|
figure ftom "Hey You" (The Wai), | asked
1h) ete inlet +n aches Davia to set the record straight as to
hhow he actually played it. To my surprise,
the way he piays it Is completely differ
ent from any ofthe transcribed versions.
Davia replaced the low E string with a
high E string and the A, D and G stings
with thinner strings tuned one octave
higher than normal (Fig. 10). Having done
1s, Ne was then able to play the arpeg-
lated Em(eda3) anc Dm(eda9) charas hy
the open position with minimal effort
oures ‘PoUREWTUNMEFORBEGINNINGOF“HEY YOU" (Fig, 14, Photo El,
© nes "| always tr to find the easiest way to
play something,” Gilmour explained, I've
arranged this intto figure for standard
{ning for comparison (Fig. 42). Though
the notes are the same, they don't
‘sound quite as briliant as they do when
played David's way. The picking pattem
is also more complicated.
Incidentally, David used this same
“high strung” tuning for the acoustic
rhythm track ding the bridge section of
PURE 1 HE YOU" TRO OAVIOS ORIGINAL VERSION) "Comfortably Numb” (Fg. 13). Photo F
Ges ise shows him fingering the Cadd9 chord.
“The nice thing about using this tuning,
Is that you can abuse common treitions:
of guitar playing. If, for example, you
were to include the open low E string in
‘an open D chord it would ordinarily sound
(dreadful, but with this tuning, It sounds
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People have their own ideas of how they
Want to be. Norman was a great teacher in
terms of studio ‘echniques, ftowever, We
Zot along very well. Bot ance or twice he
lust had to avvept the fact that We weren't
i doitthe way he chaight we should,
here are varying stories as 10 whether
‘not Syd ison the “Saucerful Of Secrets
track
{SILMOUR: No. he's not, That’ totally false.
He's on three or four other tracks on the
album, including "Remember A Day” and
“lug Band Music” [Sea's sole composition
‘nthe Saucerful afb). les also emai
bit of "Set The Controls For The Heart OF
The Sun." I think I'm on “Set The Con:
trols” as well
9W: Can you recall any of the techniques
you used to get unusual guitar tones back
‘hen’?
GILMOUR: Well, 1 the micklle section of
“A Saucerful OF Sevtets.” most ofthe time
the guitar as lying on the stad Hour. And
unscrewed one uf the legs from mic
stand...You know hove mie stands have
tee steel legs about 4 foot long? I just
whizzed one of those up and down the
Deck—not very subtly. Anether technique.
which came a bit later. i co take w sinall
piece of steel and sub it trom side to side
across the strings. You ust mave itand stop
itin places shat sound goad. 1's something
Tike an E-bow
“ONE OF THESE Days:
Meddle {1971}
GW: Another technical point: the instru
mental “One OF These Days” was born
\When someone plugged a bass into a “Bin.
son Eharee,” What is this device?
GILMOUR: The Binson was an alian-made
elay unit. I was strange because it didn’t
uilize tape loops. Instead, it used a metal
recording wheel. [Binson's Echoree wes
basically @ wive recorder—a precursoy of
Imaignetic tape. tt had six knobs: an input
‘lume, one 10 condrol the lenerh. volume
ad tone of swell a three-poriton selec
‘ar knob anda 12-pasition switching knob,
The selector accessed either echo (one
repeat), repeat (more than one repeat oF
swell (reverbs cleverly devised by feeding
the outputs of the heads back to them
Selves). while she switching bob accesse
12 variations of these.—Fat | You could get
some wonderful delay effects that aren't
attginable on anything that's been made
since, “One Of These Days” evalved! from
some of my experiments with the Binson
4s did “Pehives” [also fiom Medile|. One
day, Roger decided to take some oF the
techniques that I was developing and try
them out himself on bass. And he cume up
With that basic rif which we all worked on
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For the middle section, another pieve of
technology came into play: an HH amp
with vibrato, set the vibra to more-oF
less the same tempo as the delay. But the
slelay was in 3/4 increments ofthe heat and
the vibrato went with the beat. just played
the bass through it and made up that ite
section, which we then stuck on to a bit of
tape and edited in, The tape splices were
then camouflaged with cymbal crashes.
Gow: So you played the bass on that tack?
GILMOUR: Yes, The opening seetion is me
and Roger, On “One OL These Days.” tor
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second bass is very dull-sounding,[fenghs]
We sent rote oi to hoy'some Strings, ful
candered off ose his giliend instead.
‘Gw: How did you hiton te idea af playing
slide guitar om the tack?
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tomized with Fender pickups Forside pans
The lap steel on “Oue Of These Days” is
tuned to an open E minor chord-—E, B, E,
G.B, E, low to high, The other lap stet is
Inasically tuned to an open G chord [D, G,
D,G, BE. low high], Luse that for The
‘Great Gig In The Sky.” You'll notice that
Thept the top string tuned to an F so that
‘could do major ae! minor chords on the
Tins three stings
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rover had any iaterest in that
GW: “One OF These Days" is one of tho
carly tabs chat erystalizd for people what
Pink Floyd was all about, Did you have that
sense within the band—that you'd really
discoxered something?
GiumoUR: Well. [ think “Echoes” isthe
masterwork of the alfum—thi
swe were all discovering wht Pink Floyd is
about. "One OF These Days” is alittle sub-
Sidiay piece that came out of the work on
‘Eghoes,” Talways loved it e's seminal. 1
suppose, yeah Tot shorter, in any 2
dottor for radio play. Meade is really the
alum where all four of us were finding our
Feet—the way we wanted Pink Flayd toe.
‘Meh more than on Urimagirnma or Aram
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inthis box set
GILMOUR: Well. wo just had to pick and
choose the ones we felt were most mpor
tant, And although Avon Heart Mosher hay
some pointer an direetions aso where we
would finally go, it's not as important 4s
Meddle was, | would have liked to inelude
versting, but we cou, because of
prive constzaints. The record company fel
that once the price aa box set gets up user
200 bucks, people aren't going to buy i
Who am Tio argue?
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Duck Side Of The Moon [1973]
GW; Let's move on to Dark Side Of The
Moon. Where did the famous 7/4 time si
‘ature for "Money" come from?
GILMOUR: I's Roger's rtf. Roger came in
with the verses and Lyties for "Money
more ar les completed, And we just made
up middle sections. guitar solos and al that
slulf, We also invented some now riffs —we
created 344 progression forthe
and made the pot
in 74, was my id ak down and
become uty and empty forthe second cho.
tus of the sol,
GGW: Were you purposely ying to getaway
rom just playing & [2-bar blues on guitar?PINK FLOYD
Wall Of Sound
The Wail producer Bob Ezrin and Dark Side Of The
Alan Parsons reveal a saucer-full of studio secrets.
BY ALAN OI PERNA & BRAD TOLINSK
808 ezrin
How po you reason with two guys who
‘once went to court over artistic ownership
of aig niober pig? That was Bob Ezrin’s
mission when he agreed to eo produce
The Wall with David Giimour and Roger
Waters. The legendary tensions between
the two feuding Floyds came to a head
during sessions for The Wal in 197:
which was why E2rin was called in
‘My job was to be Henty Kissinger—
to mediate between two dominant pei
sonaiities,” recalls Ezrin from the $3
distance of 12 years. “Each one
hhas a need to express himself in
his own style, And sometimes
those siyies are very afferent
‘Seasoned by sessions with Lou
Reed, Alice Cooper and kiss, Ezrin
was the ideal man to copproduce
The Wall He first discussed the
project with Roger Waters “during
the Animals tour, in the back of a
limousine on the way to Hamilton,
Ontario, He (Waters) told me that
because he felt so alienated, he
had this concept of building a wall
between the band and the at
tence. We kicked the idea around
inthe car, Honestly, | never expect
ed anything to come of
But soon Ezrin found himself in
the thick of Pink Floyd's most
ambitious recording up t
time, No mere referee, he had
Plenty of his own ideas for The
Wail“ fought fr the introduction
of the orchestra on that record—the
expansion of the Fleyd’s sound to some
thing that was more orchestral, theatr
a)..tilmic’ is the word. This became a
big issue on ‘Comfortably Numb." which
Dave saw as 2 more bare-bones trac
with just bass, drums and guitar, Roser
sided with me. So ‘Comfortably Numb’
\s a tue collaboration—it's David's,
‘music, Roger's iyic and my orchestral
chan.
David Gilmour's classic guitar solo on
Comfortably Numb” was cut using &
combination of the guitarist's Hiwatt
‘amps and Yamaha rotating speaker cab
inets, Ezrin recalls, But with Gilmour. he
adds, equipment is secondary to touch
You can give him a ukulele and he'll
make it sound like a Stradivarius. He's
truly got the best set of hands with which
ve ever worked. People always ask me,
How the hell did you get that astound.
ing guitar Sound at the end of “Another
Brick in The Wall"?" That's just Dave
direct, with a litle compression,
used a form of double compression: first
we put the guitar through a very aggres-
sive limiting amplifier, compressed that
output, and overdrove it. The limiting
amplifier makes it pop, and the com
Pressor gives it a kind of density: the
Sound of being right in your face, But
stil it's nothing so involved that t would
have made that part sound good if
Dave's playing hadn't been so brilliant,
That's his frst take too!”
Ezrin was also called in to assist at
the birth ofthe fist (and, 80 far, the only)
Pink Floyd studio album without Roger
Waters: 1987's A Momentary Lapse of
Reason. Heve a different kind of artistic
\ebate arose. While Glimaur was keen
to strike out in new musical directions.
Eatin fet a certain obligation to produce
2 record that wouldn't disappoint the
expectations of long-time Flayd fans:
“People are used to Pink Floyd delivering
‘atmospheric, philosophical records, with
lots of effects and ear candy,” says
Ezrin. “I didnt feel that a camplete over
haul ofthe Pink Floyd sound or approach
was called for at that time, particularly
since Roger had lett,
Moon engineer
Given the disparate set of songs that
hhad been written for the album, Ezrin
‘and Gilmour keenly felt the need to find
‘common "thread "to hald them togeth
fr. They found that thread ina most
unexpected place: right under their feet.
Eatin and Gilmour were recording on the
Guitarist’s studio boat, the Astoria,
Moored on the River Thames, “Working
fon that boat was the mast magical
recording experience I've ever had,” says
Ezrin, “Sitting every day and watching
the geese fly, the school-kids rowing,
and the litle old English fishermen on
the bank created a kind of river atmo.
sphere that permeates the whole
album.”
On @ more practical level, the
floating studio posed a few prob-
Jems when it came to engineering
gultar sounds. “It’s nat a huge
environment,” explains Ezrin, “S0
Wwe couldn't keen the amps in the
same room with us, and we were
forced to use slightly smaller
amplifiers. But after playing
around with them in the demo
ges of the project, we found
hat we really liked that sound, So
@ Fender Princetan and a litle
G&K amp became the backbone
of Dave's guitar sound for that
record.
When the song °A New
Machine” created the need for
something slightly larger Ezrn and
Gilmour responded on @ grand
scale. "We actually hired a 24
track truck and a huge P.A. system
{and brought them inside the L.A. Sports
Arena.” the producer recalls. "We had
the whole venue to ourselves, and we
biped Dave's guitar racks out into the
Sports arena and revecorded them in
3D. So the tracks that originally came
from a teery little Gallien Krueger and a
teeny ite Fender, but piped through this
enormous P.A, out into a sports atena,
Sound lke the Guitar From Hell”
But what of the fabled big rubber pig?
Well, Roger Waters claimed copyright
‘ownership ofthe oversized prop, used at
Countless Pink Floyd live shows. But
David Gilmour had a huge male
appendage fashioned for the creature—
thereby altering “its” anise character
enough to get around the copyright.
‘continued on page 121DAVID GILMOUR
GILMOUR: No. | just wanted 10 make a dea
matic effect withthe three solos. The fir
ADT'd—Adtificially Double
Tracked, And the third one is actually dow
ble-tracked. I think I did the firs two solos
on a Fender Stratocaster, but the last one
was done on a different puita
Which was made by some guy in Vi
ver. Ithada whole two octaves on the neck
Which meant I could get up 10 notes that I
couldn't play on a Stratocaster.
GW: What amp did you use on that?
GuLMOUR: I imagine it was a Hiwan, but
Tm not too certain, I used Fender Twin
Reverbs in the studio a lot, too, But I'm
certain the effects consisted of a Fuzz
fuzz box and the Binson echo/dela
Gwe: What was [pro ‘er| Chris
Thomas's role on L
The Moon’
about that feeling we were left with atthe
end of Dark Side—that feeling of "What do
youdo when you've done everything” But
Think we got over that, And for me, Wish
You Were Here s the most satisfying album.
[really Iove it.I mean, Prather listen to that
than Dark Side OF The Moon, Because 1
think we achieved a better balance of music
and lyrics on Wish You Were Here. Dark
Side went a bit to far the other way —t00
‘much into the importance ofthe lyrics. And
sometimes the tunes—the vehicles for the
lected, To me, one of
is that sometimes, in his
effort to get the words across, be uses a ess
“poss
Animals [1977]
‘GW: On the next Pink Floyd album, Ani:
‘mais, he song “Dogs isthe only thing not
writen solely by Roger. What was your
part in co-weting “Dogs” with him?
‘GILMOUR: asically wrote all the chords
the main music part of it, And we wrote
some other bits together at the end.
{Gw: Originally it was titled “You Gotta Be
Crazy." Was ita different song then
GILMOUR: It was fundamentally the same
song, but the Iyries changed a litte to suit
the “Animaly” concept. [did one or two
very nice, slightly differen, guitar solos on
it that I was quite pleased with
{Gw: There are those Fantastic sections with
the wo-part harmony leas.
GILMOUR: Three-part, in some cases: it's
two-part in the melody sections, But the
lastline of the first solo, Theieve, isa these
Part descending augmented chord. Which
is quite nice, and L was very proud of it 1
GiLMOUR: Chris Thomas came in
‘or the mixes, and his role was
essentially to Stop the arguments
between meand Roger aout how
itshould be mixed, I wanted Dark
Side to be big and swampy and
wet, with reverbs and things like
that. And Roger was very keen on
it being a very dy album. think
he was influenced a lot by Joh
Lennon's first solo album [Plas
Ono Band, which was very dry
We argued so much that it was
suggested we get a third opinion
We were going to leave Christ
imix iton his own, with Alan Par
sons engineering. And of course
fon the frst day [ found out that
oger sneaked in there. So the
second day F sneaked in there.
And from then on, we both sat
ht at Chris's shoulder. interfer
But luckily, Chris was more
sympathetic © my point of view
than he was to Roger's.
GW: Was that the first album
where tension em
you and Roger?
GILMOUR: Ah, there's always
been tension, But it wa all quite
controllable tension until alter
The Wail all
GW: There's creative tension and
then there's outright hostility
‘GILMOUR: There’s eave tension
and there's total egocentric m
Jomaniacal tension, if you like
‘ow: Did the prospect oF having to
follow the huge success of Dark
Side OF The Moon create a lot of
pressure on you during the ses
sions for Wise You Were Here
Gitmour: Yeah, that's what the
album's about, Ithink—as far as
od between
Roger's concemed, anyway. It's‘The care and feed
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and wiped it out and [had to re
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GILMOUR: By mistake, by mistake
GW: What did you play om that?
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elfect mae «big difference in the sound.
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{Gw: “Comfortably: Numb is one of your
few cous son The Wall, By all
reports it wasa't bor
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should be mixed and whi
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track with Nick Mason on drums
that [thought was too rough and
sloppy. We had another 0 at ta
Thought that the second take was
better. Roger disagreed, It wa
m » thing than anythin
else. We really went head to hed
with each ether over stich a mine
thing, [probably couldn't tell dhe
difference if you pu borh versions
fon a record today. Bul anyway. it
‘wound up with us taking a fill out
fof one version and putting it into
{Gw: Have disagreements between
you and Roger ever
point of physical vi
GILMOUR: They've threatened to
But it'snever actually come to tha.
(Once Roger an I had real shout
in North Hollywood. We'd gone
there with [prodicer| Bob Eatin
[see accen 1 to ha
it out over something on The
Wai
Num” because the only thing Ue
really a
probably “Comfortably
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ry own music. With his m
wouldn't bother to argue
GW: While the easier Pink Floyd
records were coneept albums, Ti
Walt is the First one with an out
right plot. What were your feelings
bout tha?
GILMOUR: | Jiked Roger's stor
Tine. Although T didn’t totally
agree with it, you've got 10 let a
chap have his vision. [just had a
nt view of our relationship
h our audience than Roger dd.
didn’t like touring. And he
Felt there was no connection
between him and the audience that
were in froat of him, [had a di
Ferent view ait stil do, And my
View of what The Wall itself is
about is more jaundiced today than
it was then, H appears now to be a
catalogue of people Roger blames
for his own failings in if, alist
STEEL HEART MOTHER: Davi Gimour and his Jensen ap steel
fou fucked me up this way. you
fucked me up that Way
GW: What about your solo on
‘Comfortably Numb"? Did that
take a long time to develop:
GitmouR: No. | just went out into
the studio and i fi
six solos. From there I just fol
Towed my usual procedure, which
is w Histon back to each solo and
mark out bar lines, saying which
bits ane good. In other words
make a chart, putting ticks and
erosses on different bars as |
through: two ticks if it's realy
good. one tick if it's good and
ross if it's no go, Then | just fo
low the chart. whipping one fader
up. then another fader, jumping
from phrase to phrase and trying
make realy nice sol all the way
through. That's the way we did
‘on "Comfortably Numb,” ft wasn't
that dificult. But sometimes you
find yourself jumping from onc
note t0 another in an impossible
way. Then you have to 2010 anoth
place and find & transition that
sounds more natura
GW: When you do a comp lke that
are you concerned that you"ll wind
Uup with a result that's physi
mpossible wo play?
GiLmouR: Not if it sounels
Fm perfeetly happy to puzzle the
hell out of people who try to work
‘ut how it was done
{Gw: For live shows. do you thet
have to go and learn to play the
solos from the record?
GILMOUR: No, I never play live
solos exactly the same way the
appeared on the record. 1 tend
Start with the same thing that’s 0
he album an! take off from there
Every once in a while [Il remem
ber bit from the record and fall
back on that, Of course the solo
the middle of “Comfortably Numb
is worked-out, $0 | always do that
the same. But | never play the main
solo—the jam solo in the end:
cexacily the same as the original
GW: Is your system of ticks and @
crosses responsible for al you
solos on record?
GILMOUR: No‘ all of them. Some- j
times TIl sing & solo to tape and
then learn it on guitar. 1 often
more melodie runs that way
GW: You've got an extensive guitar
collection—a world-famous collec
ion. When you go to record, how
much of that goes into the studio
GILMOUR: Well. not much,
Generally, I just use a Strator saloon
Did that
lop’
just fol
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sol and
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COLDBRICKERS: Roger Waters, ick Wright, Davi Gimour nd Nick Mason
Wl that’s the end of it, The ones I tend to
use these days are moslemn '37 reissue Strats
with EMG pickups. Apart from that, F've
ota few different acoustis and slide
jars. For some ofthe rhythm things, [has
black Gretsch Duo
ly nice
‘GW; Who are your favorite guitar players
‘GILMOUR: I'm not @ fan of many rock gui
at players. Jeff Beck's my favorite
damned fine player
GW: You're rot keen on the modern tec:
nical schools of guitar
GILMOUR: No. Is probably ust sour
because Fl neverbe able to doit. Eddie Van
Halen has done a few things that I ike lo
But for the most part. no, that ind of thin
dloesntinterest me, Gitar justhappens to
Sonic that sounds real
the instrument Ian bestexpress my feelin
oon. Fr not very fast on it, but you don't
something like Jobn
Dimples.” Between the
have to be. You
Lee Hooker doin
4 vocal lines he just hits the bottom string on
the guitar that one note says itll
2 My guitar influences are people like Pete
Seeger, Lewdhelly. Hank Marvin andl Jet?
Beck, But there hasn't been anyone recent
ly that I've been turn
GGW: I's sreat to hear you acknowledge
euy like Pete Sees.
GILMOUR: Oh. Pe
tastic hum bein
Fork.” they called him at one time, [earned
guitar off his Pete Seeger Teaches Guitar
Seoger’s a wonderful
America's Tuning
Fecord, That was the fist instruction [had
The first track taught you how ta tune the
guitar, That was pretty importa
ONE SLIP
Momentary Lapse Of Reason |1987)
GW: Let's move on to Pink Floyd's most
recent studio album, A Momentary Lapse
OF Reason, How did you hook up with
Roxy Music’s Phil Manzanera to write
‘One Slip”?
GILMOUR: Phil is
We've known each other for years and
years, sways talked about doing
Something together. So I went and visited
him over at his studio, and we started play
people, to sce if there
comfortable working with who could help
tormake the load alte Fighter in doing the
new Pink Floyd record without Roger, Phil
hrasieally wrote the musie to “One Slip.
GW: On A Momentary Lapse, how did
deal with the whole issue of maintai
continuity withthe old Pink Flo
GILMOUR: By totally ignoring i, I didn’t
bother with any of that staf I know it's
somethit op in B
mind: he
make it sourid like Pi
something | had noi
hits done by me, it's und like
Pink Floyd to. certain extent. Because its
my voice, my guitar pl
aste that are plastered all over eve
Pink Floyd ever di, going hack to A
felt a certain responsibility to
loyal, But that's
est in whatsoever
cal ry
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GW: A Mome
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GiLMOUR: Yes. That's what I like
OF Life” for example, is actually an old
demo. [had to re-record a lot of things, but
the rhythm guitar chords inthe background
are from a demo from way back in" 78.
GW: So on A Momentary Lapse you got to
follow through on ideas that, perhaps
because of Roger's dominance, you didn't
et to pursue earlier?
‘GILMOUR: Yeah. [ went back to this bal
ance of more musie and aot quite the same
preponderance of words, You do what what
‘Signs
You're good at, ou see. Roger's very goad
ar lyrics. Fm certainly not as practiced as
him, so L wouldn't put myself up there
GW: Do you feel you're coming along as a
lyrics
ILMOUR: I'm prouel of some of the ones
redone. "Sorrow" |A Momentary Lapse]
is a very good Iyrie. There are things I've
done on Solo albums that I've been pretty
proud of
GW: Have you written anything recently
‘GILMOUR: Not finished song, no. Just jt
GW: Ate there any plans for anew Pink
Floyd album?
GILMOUR: Well, we're mucking about in
my studio a little bit. But it’s too early t0
‘make any definite predictions as to what it
will be like
{9W: Do you have any plans for another solo
record?
GILMOUR: Not atthe moment, no, The next
fone will probably be a Pink Floyd record
6%: Was Momentary Lapse a good expe.
rience for you, Nick and Rick [Wright Pink
Floyd's keyboardist in the sense that you
assured yourselves that you could dit
without Roger?
GILMOUR: Yes. The album and the tour
Were a rehabilitative process forall of us,
1 to hear you and Rick play
[Wright was ejected
ing together 4
from the band in 1979 and rejoined for A
Momentary Lapse,] The guitar and key:
boards worked together so sympathetical
ly on a lo of these old tracks we've been
GGiLmouR: Well, it's like Bob Dylan says
lin My Back Pages”: was so much ol
er then, I'm younger than that now.” You
learn things about yourself and other peo.
ple as time goes by. When the three of us
sit down and play, it sounds like Pink
Floyd, There's very distinct value in that,
Which was important for me to discover
There's something there that’s bigger than
any one person's ego. @
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PINK FLOYD
Any Colour You Like
Pink Floyd singer/conceptualist/bassist Roger Waters and drummer
Nick Mason separate fact from science fiction in this classic '74 interview.
BY CONNOR McKNIGHT
THE FoLLoWna's an excerpt from a 1974
interview with Pink Floyd's Roger Waters
and Nick Mason conducted by writer
Connor MeNight for Britain's shortved
ZigZag magazine,
‘MeNight recalls: “An old acquaintance
of mine used to meet me at various foot
ball matches and he was often accom:
panied by this tall geezer who didn’t say
‘much, but looked fairly familiar, After
‘about two years of nodding | eventually
‘asked him what he did for a living. ‘I'm
‘2 musician he replied. I'm in a group
Called The Pink Floyd.” It was Roger
Waters.”
“Eventually managed to screw up su
ficient effrontery to ask for a few hours
of his time to answer some question.
We finally agreed to meet at his house,
but when we amrved we were directed 10
{a Mr. Mason's residence, which is where
the interview took place.”
1216-246: What role do sound effects play
inyour music?
ROGER WATERS: I've always felt the dit
ferentiation between sound effects and
music is all a load of shit. Whether you
make a sound on a guitar or a water tap
Is irrelevant because it doesn’t make
any difference. We started on a piece a
\while ago which was carrying this to its
logical extreme, where we don’t use any
recognizable musical instruments at
all—bottles, knives, anything at all,
falling axes and stuft like that, which we
will compiete at some juncture and it's
‘tuning out into @ realy nice piece,
216-zAG: What do you consider your
most effective use of sound effects?
WATERS: The simplest things are often
the best. For example, the sound of wind
at the beginning of “One Of These Days"
[Meddie] is bloody effective. ick
MASON: “Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast”
[Atom Heart Mother is quite interesting,
insofar as we've agreed that the piece
‘didn’t work, but in some ways the sound
effects are the strongest parts,
WATERS: We did that ina fantastic rush,
didn't we?
MASON: Right, It was a fantastic Idea,
‘but because of the rush it dian’t work
propery.
I think the sound effect in Money’
works very well. The interesting thing
about that track is that when Roger wrote
it, the idea to use the cash register more
‘or less came up in the first day
216-286: Pink Floyd has always been
‘associates with science fiction and
space music. Are you a scifi fan?
WareRS: | haraly ever read science fle
tion. | used to read a lot, but only very
‘occasionally now. | suppose that the ree
Son that | iked to read scence fiction
was because itgive the writer the chance
to reexamine some important ideas. If
you remove an idea from its familiar sur
Toundings it allows you to look at it in a
new light. Also, some of the books offer
blaody good yams, and ike a good yam.
ZIG-ZAG: Hoy do you relate to the term
“space rock"?
WATERS: Not very much.
MASON: That was a convenient tag,
WATERS: Which was held over for so
bloody long. We've really only recorded
three tracks with science fiction refer
‘ences— “Astronomy Domine,” "Set The
Controls” and “Let There Be Light.” Peo.
ple listen to Dark Side OF The Moon and
‘allt “space rock,” which Is erazy. Just
because it's got the word “Moon” in the
title, they think the record has a science
fiction theme, The other thing I've been
hearing is people say is that we've gone
{rom outer space to inner space, which
is oat
MASON: “Seucerul” had no basis in si
‘ence fiction,
WATERS: The title allowed you to think
‘of anything that you wanted, and be:
‘cause it had echo, people went, “Whooo,
Science fiation.” But it could've repre:
‘sented anything
21G-2AG: Writers have compared your
music to specific paintings.
WATERS: Our itis aren't abways imme
Giately apparent, so It becomes very
‘easy to let your imagination go.
MASON: People often listen to the music
‘and come up with a visualization of what
itis about. And when they visualize it,
‘ey think they've discovered the secret
behind it. Sometimes they even bother
to write us and say, “I've got it—'ve got
the answer. It's comfield, isn't it?
WATERS: And when they say something
like that, we tell them the truth—which
Is, “If that’s what it means to you, then
‘that's wnat itis.”
MASON: And they're invariably disap.
pointed.
WATERS: The way our music impinges
‘on your mind makes it easy to conjure up
It's more difficult to visualize a dis
tinct image when you isten to something
by John Cage or Stockhausen, because
the music Is all squeaks and bubbles.
Their music has more of a hard-edged,
abstract painting, There are cefinte tr
‘angles and squares in it, but it doesn’t
{ve you an overall impression of the Bat
tle Of Waterloo or whatever. It makes
you respond in a more intellectual way.
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While the band name lowed easily Som
the lips, the band itself was note too inspie
ing: their repertoire included no original
material. consisting instead of tunes like
‘Louie Lowe” and “Road Runner.” both of
‘hich the early Floyd personalized by inter
potsing iberal dosages of staceato "Freak
‘u." a Form of psychedelic jamming
For all their limitations, the band man
laged to attact some professional interest
in their future. Perer Jenner, a lecturer at
the London School of Feanomies and Yohn
Hopkins, « par-time magazine publisher
Were in the audience for one of the Pink
Floyd gigs. and were impressed enough to
offer them some sort of management deal.
Admits Jenner: “ht was one of the fist
rock events I'd seen—T did't know any
thing about rock, really, Actually the Floyd
then were barely semiispeo standard, now
‘hat think about i, but Lwas so impressed
by the electric guitar sound, The band was
Wst atthe point of breaking up, y"know. It
was weird—they just thought “Oh, well
‘might as well pack it all in.” But they
changed their minds."
ONE OF JENNER’S first acts us @ man
was to build an elaborate fight show
the band’s perfomance. The next was to
installa poliey of playing only original
compositions
This was where Syel Barret came into
his own, Barrett ha ot this point composed
only a few odd tunes—a nonsense song
called “Etfervescing Elephant,” for exam-
ple, written when he was, perhaps, 16, and
he'd seta James Jovee poem called “Gold-
fn Hair” 10 music. Butnothing beyond that.
Fenner: “Syd was really amaaing,
though. I mean, his inventiveness was quite
astounding. All those songs from that
‘whole Pink Floyd phase were seriten in no
more than six months, He just started and
took it from thee,
‘The frst msnifestation of Barrett's song
writing talents was a bizare litle classic
called ““Ammold Layne.” which deaft with
the ewilight wanderings of « trans
Vestitejpervert figure, A sinister piece of
vaguely commercial fare, it is hoth whim
sical and singularly creepy, The single was
binned by Radio London, which foun its
general connotations a litle tuo odd for
ven pirate radio standatds,
The Floyd were by aow big stult in
Swinging London. Viewed from hindsight,
the band came on just ike naive ar-stu
Gents in Byrus-siyied granny
fist publicity shots are particulary laugh:
Able). But the musie somehow had an edge
‘And the Barret guitar style?
Jenner: “Well, he hud this technique that
1 found very pleasing. I mean, he was no
guitar hero—never remotely in the class of
Page or Clapton, say
The Floyd cult grew as Barrett began to
hit hs creative stride, His songweting can
only be described as a happy mastiage of
{he two ideal forms of English psychedelia
‘musical rococo freak-outsand a particular
ly Bnglish style of whimsy. of the kind
sssociated with limerick master Edward
Lear and the man who ereated Alice In
Wonderland. Lewis Carrol
Pink Floyd's debut, Piper At The Gates
Of Dawn [1967], was recorded atthe same
time as The Beatles" Sergeant Pepper's,
and the to bands occasionally niet up to
check out each other's product. Paul
McCartney even stepped oul to bestow his
papal blessing on Piper, an album which
sill stands as one ofthe best musieal mem:
cries of 1967—except for “Bike,” which
recks of crazy basements and psychedelic
whimsy taken a litle too close to the edge,
Strange things were starting to happen
with the Floyd, and particularly with Bar
rett, Their fst single, "See Emily Play
was Top Five, which enabled Barret to
more than adequately live out his pop star
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‘The ego problems and slight tantrums
were the first signs that anything was ser
‘ously wrong with Barrer, and, gradually, the
Floyd, Jenner and others in his eile, real>
Sved that something deeper was going on,
‘Take the Floyd's three appearances oa Tap
Of The Pops {a popular Brkish music sho}
Jenner: "The first time Syd was on Top.
Of The Pops, he dressed wp like pop star.
“The second time, he came on in his straight
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rather unshaven, The third time, he came to
the studio in his pop star clothes and then
changed into complete rags for the actual
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Teall had something to do with the fact
‘ht some time earlier, John Lennon had
stated publicly that he woulda’t appear on
Top Of The Pops. Syd seemed to regard
Lennon as some sor af yardstick by which
tw measure his own situation as a pop star.
‘Syd was always complaining that John
Lennon owned a house while he only had
afl.” states Peter Bares,
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HE Was AT that point involved in a rela
‘ionship with a gil named Lynsey. The
affair ok an uncomfortably bizarre turn
when the lady appeared on Peter Jenner's
doorstep fairly savagely beaten up.
“T-eouldn't believe it atthe time. I had
this firm picture of Syd as this really gen-
te guy, which is what he was, basically.”
Something was defintely swry. In fat,
there are numerous fairly unpleasant tales
about this particular afTair (Including one
where Barrett locked the gir in a room for
asolid week, pushing water biscuits under
the door so she wouldn't starve) which are
best not dwell on,
Syd's yes ofien cemented themselves
into a stare that really frightened all who
stood in his presences, The head would tlt
bck slighlly, the eyes sould get misty and
bloated. Then they would stare right at
you-and right through you at the same
‘ume. One thing was painfully obvious: the
bboy genius as fast becoming completely
unhinged, mentally,
Peshaps it was the drugs, Barret’ intake
atthe time was fearsome by any standacd,
and many considered his constitution to be
ati fragile for such chemicals.
‘The combination of such circumstances
can, of course, lead to a certain degree of
brain-damage, But to truly understand the
Barrett psyche, one must traverse more
Freudian landscape. Many of the people
familiar with Syd claimed that his break-
down must be linked to specific traumas.
Barrett, te youngest of eight children,
was 12 years old when his father died
abruptly. The impact ofthis severe oss was
‘compounded by his strong-willed mother,
‘who spoiled Syd mightily
‘Everyone is supposed to have fan when
they're young —Idon'rhnow whey, but Ine
cerdid"—Syd Barret, in an interview with
Rolling Sione, Auturan 1971
PETER JENNER. “Ithink we tended to under
rate the extent of his problem. I mean,
thought that T could act as a mediator —
y'know having been a sociology teacher at
the L.S.E. and all that gut.
“Think, though..one thing l egret now
was that I made demands on Syd. He'd
written “See Emily Play,” and suddenly
everything haul to be seen in commercial
terms. [think we may have pressured him
into a state of paranoia about having 10
‘come up with another hit single.
Barett’s fragile psyche began to truly
unravel when the Floyd were forced to
appearon some American TV shows. Dick
Clark's Bandstand was disastrous because
it requiced a lip-synching job on the band’s
prt and “Syd wasn’t into moving his lips
that day.”
continued on page 105SYD BARRETT
The Pat Boone Show was quite sure:
Boone actualy tied co interview Barrett on
the screen, asking him particularly inane
{questions and getting a truly classic eata-
tonic piercing mute stare for an answer
By che time the band retumed to Britain,
thoy had ached « decision, While Barrett
svat the Floyd's songsriterand centea fig
Ure, his madness had become fat too muela
to handle, He jost couldn't be communi=
cated with,
Their patience had not been rewarded,
and so the breakaway was in the cards, But
nat before a final studio session took
place—a mad, anarchic affair which
spawned three of Barrett's truly vital ti
Tight rantings. Untormunately, only one has
been released,
‘Jug Band Blues." the only Burret wack
that made ito tothe band's cond slbur,
Saucerful Of Seerers 1968]. tis as good
an explanation as any for Syd's absence
thom the test ofthe alburn
‘Y'see, even at that point, Sye_ actually
knew what was happening to him,” claims
Jenner, "I mean, “Jug Band Blues” 1s the
ultimate self-diagnosis on a state of
schizophrenia.
“1's awfully considerate of you to think
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thes sang
Barreit acwually had Salvation Army
Band troop in during the middle of the
umber. The 180 unreleased songs (these
‘cantrary o popular belie. are the an une
leased numbers Barter has ever recorded)
ae beth vatinished creations. “Seream
‘Your Last Screans” isa masteetl splurge of
blowxd-curdling lunacy
‘Seream sour last seream/Old woman
with « baskei/Wave your arms madiy, mad-
I/Flar tops af houses/Houses Mouses!
She'll be scrubbing apples on all foursé
Middle-dee-riddle with Dimpy Mrs. Deef
we'll be watching elty for all hes.”
‘Also unreleased is "Vegetable Man." a
demented sing-along tune
Syd" recalls Jenner. “was round at my
house just before le ha 19 xo to record
and, because a song was needed, he just
‘wrote « description of wht he was wearing.
ac che time and threw ina chorus that went
‘Vegetable man—where are you’
A nationwide tour of Great Britain fo:
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laborious year to coniplete, Production
credits voastantly changed hands—trom,
Peter Jennerto Malcolm Jones (who gave
up balfway through), and ultimately to
Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters,
By this lime Barrett's creative processes
‘refused to mesh properly nd so the results
of his efforts were often jagged snd unap-
prouchable, Basically they were essays in
distance—of Barrett waving himsic
‘out from the haze, Or perhaps he was
drowning? Ou "Dark Globe” the anguish is
all 190 real
"My head kissed she ground! was half
the was dove. Please lifea haat ont
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brain all the way/Wouid you miss me/O,
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Many of the tracks. though, like “Ter
rapin.” practically just lay tere on the
sround, seratching themselves, They exist
‘completely’ insde their own zone ike weird
insects and exotic Tish, with the listener
{orved to look inside the tank atthe uetvity.
In many ways, Madeap is a work of
sgonius: in just as many other ways, i's a
‘ranked-up, pastacid curio. And for both
those reasons it remains a ital, thorough-
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Storm Thorgensoa: “The thing was that
all those guys had to cope with Syd out of
his head on Mandrax half the time. He got
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