Wisdom vs Knowledge in Upanishads
Wisdom vs Knowledge in Upanishads
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[The sage must distinguish between knowledge and Wisdom. Knowledge is of things, acts and relations.
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But Wisdom is of Brahman (Supreme Reality) alone; and beyond all things, acts, and relations, He abides
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forever. To become one with Him is the only Wisdom. - Swami Prabhavananda].
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From The Mundaka Upanishad- UP
Translations and explanations by Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji.
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Saunaka, the great householder, approached Angirasa in the proper manner and said: Revered Sir, What
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To him he said: Two kinds of knowledge must be known – that is what the knowers of Brahman tell us.
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[Note: The Hindu philosophers observed that by knowing the nature of clay one knows the nature of
everything made of clay, by knowing the nature of iron or gold one knows the nature of everything
made of iron or gold. Is there not likewise, they asked, something that is the basic material of the
universe, by the knowing of which everything in the universe will be known? Similarly, there should be
one cause of the multiple objects of the world, by the knowing of which its effects could be known.
According to Non-dualistic Vedanta an effect has no real existence apart from its cause. Therefore when
a man knows the cause, he also should know that the effect has no reality independent of it. Brahman is
the ultimate cause of the universe. When one knows Brahman, one also knows that the universe has no
reality independent of Brahman.
"Higher Knowledge": The Knowledge of the Supreme Self, which is beyond duality.
"lower knowledge": The lower knowledge is the knowledge of the phenomenal world. In reality it is
ignorance, for it does not lead to the Highest Good. The seer of the Upanishad asks the aspirant to
acquire both the knowledge of the relative world and the Knowledge of Ultimate Reality. When by the
pursuit of the former he fails to attain true freedom and immortality, he cultivates the latter. The lower
knowledge includes the knowledge of righteous actions (dharma) and unrighteous action (adharma) and
their results.].
Of these two, the lower knowledge is the Rig-Veda, the Yajur-Veda, the Sama-Veda, the Atharva-Veda,
siksha (phonetics), kalpa (rituals), vyakaranam (grammar), nirukta (etymology), chhandas (metre) and
jyotis (astronomy); and the Higher Knowledge is that by which the Imperishable Brahman is attained.
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[Note: Sri Shankaracharya explains that the Higher Knowledge refers to the actual realisation of the
subject matter taught in the Sruti (Vedas). It primarily means the experience of the Imperishable
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Brahman taught in the Upanishads, and not the mere words contained in them.
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"Siksha, kalpa…." : These six, known as the Vedangas, are ancillary to the Vedas. Without the knowledge
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of them a proper understanding of the Vedas is impossible.
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"Is attained": In the case of the Higher Truth, attainment and knowledge are identical. This attainment is
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the same as the destruction of ignorance. The knower of Brahman becomes Brahman.].
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The first aim and function of all education should be to bring enlightenment to the students. Stuffing the
student`s mind with facts and formulae is not education, because it does not bring enlightenment nor
confer energy. Training of the mind, and not stuffing of the brain,
is what we need. Thus alone will the student be able to acquire a luminous mind and increased energy
of personality. This is what our ancient Upanisads proclaim as the objective of education.This is
conveyed to us in one of the famous verses known as Shanti Paath or `Peace chant' occuring in the
Katha and some other Upanisads.
Dr. Huxley, the British biologist, wrote to Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Swami Dr.Rupnathji:
"SwamiRupnathji, you have given a splendid definition of what education ought to be, and sometimes is.
But my visits to India showed me that the aim of a large number of Indian undergraduates was not to
enjoy an education of this sort, but to pass examinations and obtain a degree, which is useful in getting
jobs."
Tejaswinavadhitamastu; ma vidvisavahai.
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Om shantih, shantih, shantih.
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`Om. May Brahman (the one divine Self in all) protect us both (student and teacher); may Brahman
nourish us both; may we both acquire energy (by this education); may we not hate each other. Om.
Peace, Peace, Peace.' AK
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This peace invocation contains many beautiful sentiments which have inspired Indian education-secular
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*Teacher and student engaged in the pursuit of knowledge and excellence of character is education:
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The invocation expresses the idea of education as the achievement of knowledge and excellence of
character in the context of a harmonious relationship between teacher and student. The giving and
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receiving of knowledge, leading to the making of man, depends on the stimulus of such teacher-student
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relationship. The teacher gives and the student receives, not only ideas and information, but inspiration
as well. In all the true education, teacher and student are not mere individuals, but personalities.
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Education, according to the Indian sages, is the lighting of one lamp from another lamp.
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says the verse. Every step in education helps man to reach out to newer and newer energy resources
within him. All energy is within man, says Vedanta. But they lie in deeper and deeper layers. 'Atmana
vindate viryam'- `By the knowledge of the Atman, man gets infinite energy,' says the Kena Upanisad.
Education helps man to secure access to the greater and greater energy resources within him. An
uneducated rustic youth, timid and helpless, changes, through a few years in school, into a youth with a
measure of fearlessness and self-confidence. His education continued further, helps that youth to
develop a sense of his own individual identity.
It is this Rising to the status of the individuality from the state of the pre-individual mass man that gives
man the capacity to take independent decisions, the courage to stand by them and take the
consequences, and the ability to deal with the world, and his position in it, as a mature human being.
This psychic maturity is one of the important criteria of education; and it comes only from an education
that trains the mind and not merely stuff the brain.
The mental immaturity of a large number of people world-wide is a big problem. It is here that the
failure of many education systems is writ large. It does not impart that psychological maturity to
many.Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji refer to all such as Moustached Babies!
They are physically very mature, but mentally they are like babies- dependent, weak, demanding, and
bereft of the sense of personal dignity and responsibility. . They have not developed that human energy
resource that can identify human problems and rise above them themselves and take their society also
with them.
Behind these immature traits in all such people lies the lack of that luminosity or enlightenment which
the Upanisads present as the second fruit of true education as mentioned in the peace chant.:
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Tejasvinau Adhitam Astu -
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`may we be enlightened by this study, by this education'.
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This is the significance of knowledge being compared to light. The logo or the emblem of our society
depicts books plus Jnana-Dipa, AK
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the light of knowledge. The Upanisads describe the Atman, the Self, as Jnana-svarup or Chit-svarup,
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of the very nature of knowledge, of the very nature of consciousness. All awakening to knowledge, to
consciousness, is, therefore, the manifestation of the Atman, in varying degrees.
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This spiritual growth into personality is what twentieth-century biology calls the psycho-social evolution
of man. It is man rising above organic evolution, to the spiritual and cultural levels.
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This is what Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji calls Man-Making Education.
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Narada approached Sanatkumara (as a pupil) and said: Venerable Sir, please teach me.
Sanatkumara said to him: Please tell me what you already know. Then I shall tell you what is beyond.
Narada said: Venerable Sir, I know the Rig-Veda, the Yajur-Veda, the Sama-Veda, the Atharva-Veda as
the fourth, the epics (Puranas) and ancient lore (Itihasa or history) as the fifth, the Veda of the Vedas
(i.e. grammar), the rules of the sacrifices by which the Manes are gratified, the science of numbers, the
science of portents, the science of time, logic, ethics, etymology, Brahma0vidya (i.e. the science of
pronunciation, ceremonials, prosody, etc.), the science of elemental spirits, the science of weapons,
astronomy, the science of serpents, and the fine arts. All this I know, venerable Sir.
But, venerable Sir, with all these I know words only; I do not know the Self. I have heard from men like
you that he who knows the Self overcomes sorrow. I am one afflicted with sorrow. Do you, venerable
Sir, help me to cross over to the other side of sorrow.
Sanatkumara said: Whatever you have read is only a name. Verily, a name is the Rig-Veda; (so also) are
the Yajur-Veda, the Sama-Veda, the Atharva-Veda as the fourth (Veda), the epics and the ancient lore as
the fifth, the Veda of the Vedas (i.e. grammar), the rules of the sacrifices by which the manes are
gratified, the science of numbers, the science of portents, the science of time, logic, ethics, etymology,
Brahma-vidya, the science of elemental spirits, the science of weapons, astronomy, the science of
serpents, and the fine arts.
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Meditate on the name
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He who meditates on a name as Brahman can, of his own free will, reach as far as the name reaches- he
who meditates on a name as Brahman.
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Speech as Brahman
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Sanatkumar said: Speech is, verily, greater than a name. Speech makes one understand the Rig-Veda,
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the Yajur-Veda, the Sama-Veda, the Atharva-Veda as the fourth, the epics…the science of serpents, and
the fine arts, as well as heaven, earth, air, space, water, fire, gods, men, cattle, birds, herbs, trees,
animals, together with worms, flies and ants as also righteousness and unrighteousness, the true and
the false, the good and the bad, the pleasant and the unpleasant.
Verily, if there were no speech, neither righteousness nor unrighteousness would be known, neither the
true nor the false, neither the pleasant nor the unpleasant.
Speech, verily, makes us know all these. Meditate upon speech. He who meditates on speech as
Brahman can, of his own free will, reach as far as speech reaches- he who meditates on speech as
Brahman.
Meditate on the mind. He who meditates on mind as Brahman can, of his own free will, reach as far as
mind reaches- he who meditates on Brahman.
Will as Brahman
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Will (samkalpa) is verily, greater than mind. For when a man wills, then he thinks in his mind, then he
utters speech, and then he employs speech in (the recital of) a name. The sacred hymns are included in
a name, and all sacrifices are included in the sacred hymns.
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Will, indeed, is the goal of all these (beginning with mind and ending in sacrifice); from will they arise
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and in will they all abide. Heaven and earth willed, air and space willed, water and fire willed. Through
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the will (of heaven and earth etc.) the rain wills; through the will of the rain, food wills; through the will
of food, the pranas will; through the will of the pranas, the sacred hymns will; through the will of the
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sacred hymns, the sacrifices will; through the will of the sacrifices, the world wills; through the will of
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He who meditates on will as Brahman can, of his own free will, reach as far as will reaches- he who
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Consideration as Brahman
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Consideration (chitta) is, verily, greater than will. For when a man considers, then he wills, then he
thinks in his mind, then he utters speech, then he engages speech in (the recitation of) a name. The
sacred hymns are included in a name, and all sacrifices are included in the sacred hymns.
Consideration is, indeed, the goal of all these (beginning with mind and ending in sacrifice); from
consideration they arise and in consideration they all abide. Therefore if a person is without
consideration, even though he possesses much knowledge, people say of him that he is nothing, and
whatever he knows (is useless); for if he were really learned, he would not be so inconsiderate. But if a
person is considerate, though he knows but little, to him people are eager to listen. Consideration,
indeed, is the goal of all these; consideration is the Self; consideration is the support. Meditate on
consideration.
He who meditates on consideration as Brahman, He, being permanent, firm, and undistressed, obtains
the worlds which are permanent, firm and undistressed; he can, of his own free will, reach as far as
consideration reaches- he who meditates on consideration as Brahman.
Meditation as Brahman
Meditation (Dhyana) is, verily, greater than consideration. Earth meditates, as it were. The mid-region
meditates as it were. Heaven meditates, as it were. The waters meditate, as it were. The mountains
meditate, as it were. The gods meditate, as it were. Men meditate, as it were. Therefore he who, among
men, attains greatness here on earth seems to have obtained a share of meditation. Thus while small
people are quarrelsome, abusive, and slandering, great men appear to have obtained a share of
meditation. Meditate on meditation.
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He who meditates on meditation as Brahman, can, of his own free will, reach as far as meditation
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reaches- he who meditates on meditation as Brahman.
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Understanding as Brahman
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Understanding is, verily, greater than meditation. Understanding makes one understand the Rig-Veda,
the Yajur-Veda, the Sama-Veda, the Atharva-Veda as the fourth, the epics……and the fine arts; heaven,
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earth, air, space, water, fire, gods, men, cattle, birds, herbs, trees; animals, together with worms, flies
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and ants; and also righteousness and unrighteousness, the true and the false, the good and the bad, the
pleasant and the unpleasant, food and taste, this world and yonder (world). Meditate on understanding.
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He who meditates on understanding as Brahman attains the worlds of understanding and knowledge
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and can, of his own free will, reach as far as understanding reaches- he who meditates on understanding
as Brahman.
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Strength as Brahman
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Strength is, verily, greater than understanding. One strong man causes a hundred men of understanding
to tremble. When a man is strong he can rise. If he rises he can attend (on the teachers). If he attends on
them he can become their intimate companion (as a pupil). If he is their intimate companion he can
watch (their conduct), listen to their instructions, reflect on what he hears, become convinced of what
he reflects on, act, and enjoy the result of action. By strength the earth stands firm, by strength the mid-
region, heaven, mountains, the gods and men, cattle and birds, herbs and trees and animals, together
with worms, flies and ants, by strength the world stands firm. Meditate upon strength.
He who meditates on strength as Brahman can, of his own free will, reach as far as strength reaches- he
who meditates on strength as Brahman.
Food as Brahman
Food is, verily, greater than strength. Therefore, if a man abstains from food for ten days (or longer
periods), even though he might live, yet he would not be able to see, hear, reflect, become convinced,
act or enjoy the result. But when he obtains food, he is able to see, hear, reflect, become convinced, act,
and enjoy the result.
He who meditates on food as Brahman obtains the world rich in food and drink; he can, of his own free
will, reach as far as food reaches- he who meditates on food as Brahman.
Water as Brahman
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Water is, verily, greater than food. Therefore if there is not sufficient rain, then living creatures are
afflicted with the thought that there will be less food. But if there is sufficient rain, then living creatures
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rejoice in the thought that there will be much food. It is water that assumes the form of this earth, this
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mid-region, this heaven, these mountains, these gods and men, cattle and birds, herbs and trees, and
animals, together with worms, flies and ants. Water indeed is all these forms. Meditate on water.
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He who meditates on water as Brahman obtains all his desires and becomes satisfied; he can, of his own
free will, reach as far as water reaches- he who meditates on water as Brahman.
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Fire as Brahman
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Fire is, verily, greater than water. For, having seized the air, it warms the space9Akasa). Then people say:
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‘It is hot, it burns; it will rain,’ Thus does fire first manifest itself and then create water. Furthermore,
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thunderclaps roll with lightning upward and across the sky. Then people say: ‘there is lightning, there is
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thunder; it will rain.’ Here also does fire first manifest itself and then create water. Meditate on fire.
He who meditates on fire as Brahman becomes radiant himself and obtains radiant worlds, full of light
and free from darkness; he can of his own free will, reach as far as fire reaches- he who meditates on
fire as Brahman.
Memory as Brahman
Memory is,verily, greater than the akasa. Therefore, even when many people assemble, if they had no
memory they would not hear anyone at all, they would not think, they would not understand. But
surely, if they had memory, they would hear, think, and understand. Through memory, one knows one’s
sons, through memory one’s cattle. Meditate on memory.
He who meditates on memory as Brahman can, of his own free will, reach as far as memory reaches- he
who meditates on memory as Brahman.
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Hope as Brahman
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Hope is, verily, greater than memory. Kindled by hope, (a person endowed with ) memory reads the
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sacred hymns, performs sacrifices, desires sons and cattle, desires this world and the other. Meditate on
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hope.
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He who meditates on hope as Brahman- all his desires are fulfilled through hope, his prayers are not in
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vain; he can, of his own free will, reach as far as hope reaches- he who meditates on hope as Brahman.
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The prana is, verily greater than hope. As the spokes of a wheel are fastened to the nave, so are all these
(beginning with the name and ending with hope) fastened to the prana. The prana moves by the prana.
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The prana gives prana to the prana. The prana is the father, the prana is the mother, the prana is the
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brother, the prana is the sister, the prana is the teacher, the prana is the brahmin (priest).
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[Note: The prana is the self of all, and includes action, the agent, and the result of action. It manifests
itself in three principal forms: the body of Hiranyagarbha, the external air, and the principal vital breath
in a living creature. The self (atman) dwells in the body with the support of the prana. When the prana
departs from the body, the Self, too, gives it up. The Self, of which the prana forms an upadhi (limiting
adjunct), and the consciousness which is behind the body of Hiranyagarbha are both non-different from
the Supreme Self. All entities- beginning with names and ending in hope- are fastened to the prana. Of
these, the name is the effect and speech the cause; speech is the effect and mind the cause. The cause is
greater than the effect. All these entities, bound by the chain of hope, are fastened to the all-pervading
prana, which is greater than hope.].
If one says something unbecoming to a father, mother, brother, sister, teacher, or brahmin (priest), then
people say: ‘Shame on you! Verily, you are a slayer of your father, a slayer of your mother, a slayer of
your brother, a slayer of your sister, a slayer of your teacher, a slayer of a brahmin.’
But if, when the prana has departed from them, one shoves them together with a poker and burns every
bit of them, no one would say: ‘You are slayer of your father, a slayer of your mother, a slayer of your
brother, a slayer of your sister, a slayer of your teacher, a slayer of a brahmin’.
The prana, verily, is all these. He (i.e. the knower of the prana) who sees this, reflects on this, is
convinced of this, becomes an ativadi (superior speaker). If people say to such a man: ‘You are an
ativadi,’ he may say: ‘Yes, I am an ativadi’; he need not deny it.
[Note: The word ‘ativadi’ means, literally, superior speaker. It refers to a person who knows not only all
the entities that should be known- that is to say, from names to hope- but also the prana, or conscious
Self, which is beyond them.].
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But in reality he is an ativadi who has become an ativadi by the knowledge of the True.
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Narada said: May I, venerable Sir, become an ativadi by the knowledge of the True?
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Sanatkumara said: But one should desire to know the True.
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[Note: ‘True’ means that which transcends all phenomena and is infinite.].
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Sanatkumara said: When one understands the True, only then does one declare the True. One who does
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not understand the true does not declare It. Only one who understands It declares the True. One must
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[Note: Reflection includes reasoning about the object on which one reflects.].
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Sanatkumara said: when one performs one’s duties (i.e. practises concentration), only then does one
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have single-mindedness. One who does not perform his duties does not have single-mindedness. Only
one who performs his duties has single-mindedness. One must desire to understand the performance of
duties. AK
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Narada said: Venerable Sir, I desire to understand the performance of duties.
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Sanatkumara said: When one obtains bliss, only then does one perform one’s duties. One who does not
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obtain bliss does not perform his duties. Only one who obtains bliss performs his duties. One must
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Sanatkumara said: The Infinite is bliss. There is no bliss in anything finite. Only the Infinite is bliss. One
must desire to understand the Infinite.
Narada said: Venerable Sir, in what does the Infinite find Its support?
Sanatkumara said: In Its own greatness- or not even in greatness.
[Note: ‘Where one sees…’ There exists no seer or organ of seeing other than the non-dual Infinite, or
Brahman. All empirical differentiations are absent in the experience of the Infinite. ‘Immortal’ means
changeless. ‘In Its own …’ If one wishes to know the support of the Infinite, then it may be said to rest in
its own greatness. But the fact is that the Infinite is without support; It is non-dual.]
[It is said that the Infinite rests on Its own greatness. How then can It be without a support?]
Sanatkumara said: Here on earth people describe cows and horses, elephants and gold, slaves and
wives, fields and houses, as ‘greatness’. I do not mean this, for in such cases one thing finds its support
in another. But what I say is:
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That Infinite, indeed, is below. It is above. It is behind. It is before. It is to the south. It is to the north The
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Infinite, indeed, is all this.
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Next follows the instruction about the Infinite with reference to ‘I’:
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I, indeed, am below. I am above. I am behind. I am before. I am to the south. I am to the north. I am.
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[Note: ‘That Infinite…’ Now is explained why the Infinite does not rest upon anything. It is because there
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is nothing apart from the Infinite on which It could rest. The Infinite Itself is everything. Therefore It does
not rest upon anything. ‘
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‘Next follows..’ The purpose of the text is to show the oneness of the Infinite and the Jiva (individual
soul).
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[To the ignorant the word ‘I’ signifies the body. But here it signifies the Atman, or Self.]
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Next follows the instruction about the Infinite with reference to the Self: The Self, indeed, is below. It is
above. It is behind. It is before. It is to the south. It is to the north. The Self, indeed, is all this.
Verily, he who sees this, reflects on this, and understands this delights in the Self, sports with the self,
rejoices in the self, revels in the Self. (Even while living in the body) he becomes a self-ruler. He wields
unlimited freedom in all the worlds.
But those who think differently from this have others for their rulers; they live in perishable worlds.
They have no freedom in all the worlds.
[Note: ‘He who sees this:’ That is to say, who knows the Self to be unborn, all-pervading, and free.
‘Delights in the Self’: All his love is centred in the Self alone. ‘Rejoices in the Self’: The pleasure which
ordinary people derive from the company of others is enjoyed by the wise from the Knowledge of the
Self. ‘Revels in the Self’: He does not derive any joy from the objects of the senses. ‘He… self-ruler’: His
freedom is unlimited. ‘Perishable worlds’: Worlds of diversity.]
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For Him who sees this, reflects on this, and understands this, the prana springs from the Self, hope
springs from the Self, memory springs from the self, the akasa (space) springs from the Self, fire springs
from the Self, water springs from the Self, appearance and disappearance spring from the Self, food
springs from the Self, strength springs from the Self, understanding springs from the Self, meditation
springs from the Self, consideration springs from the Self, will springs from the Self, mind springs from
the Self, speech springs from the Self, the name springs from the Self, the sacred hymns spring from the
Self, the sacrifices spring from the Self- ay, all this springs from the Self.
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[Note; ‘All this’: All things perceived to exist.]
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[Prior to obtaining the Knowledge of the true Self, one believes that all entities, from the name to the
prana, spring from and disappear into something other than the Self. But when one has realised the Self,
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one knows that all things appear from and disappear into the Self alone.]
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On this there is the following verse:
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"The knower of Truth does not see death or disease or sorrow. The knower of Truth sees everything and
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He (the knower) is one (before the creation), becomes three, becomes five, becomes seven, becomes
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nine; then again he is called eleven, one hundred and ten, and one thousand and twenty.
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[Now is described the discipline for inner purification by which Self-Knowledge is attained]:
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When food is pure, the mind becomes pure. When the mind is pure the memory becomes firm. When
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The venerable Sanatkumara showed Narada, after his blemishes had been wiped out, the other side of
darkness. They call Sanatkumara Skanda, yea, Skanda they call him.
[Note: ‘The knower of Truth’: That is to say, he who sees all things in the Self. ’Becomes three’: That is to
say, fire, water and earth. ‘Becomes seven etc’: The various numbers are intended to show the endless
variety of forms the Self assumes after the creation. Again, at the time of dissolution, the self returns to
Its pristine unity. ‘Food’: The Sanskrit word dhara in the text means anything that is taken in (ahriyate)
by the senses, that is to say, sounds, sights, smells, etc. ‘Mind…pure’: Free from aversion, attachment, or
delusion. ‘Memory’: That is to say, the memory that He is the Infinite Self. ‘All ties etc’: Ties created by
ignorance, which have accumulated through numerous births and which reside in the heart. ‘Darkness’;
Ignorance. ‘Venerable Sanatkumara’: He who knows the origin, the end, the birth and death (of all
beings), and also ignorance and Knowledge- such a one is called venerable (bhagavan). (As explained by
Sri Sankaracharya). ‘Skanda’: The dictionary meaning of this word is "wise man"]
Addressing Suka,
Janaka said: Without the aid of an understanding cleansed by study of the scriptures and without that
true conception of all things which is known by the name of Vijnana, the attainment of Emancipation is
impossible. That cleansed understanding, again, it is said, is unattainable without one’s connection with
a preceptor. The preceptor is the helmsman, and knowledge is the boat (aided by whom and which one
succeeds in crossing the ocean of the world). After having acquired that boat, one becomes crowned
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with success.
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The Guru
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Preamble
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God and Guru are in truth not different. Just as the prey that has fallen into the jaws of a tiger cannot
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escape, so those who have come under the glance of the Guru’s grace will surely be saved and will never
be forsaken; yet one should follow without fail the path shown by the Guru.
From Bhagavan’s (Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji’s) point of view there are no
disciples but from the point of view of the disciple the grace of the Guru is like the ocean. If the disciple
comes with a cup he will only get a cupful. It is no use complaining of the niggardliness of the ocean; the
bigger the vessel the more he will be able to carry. It is entirely up to him.
The term Guru is often loosely used to describe anyone who gives out spiritual advice, but in Tantra
Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji’s vocabulary the word has a much more restricted
definition. For him, a true Guru is someone who has realised the Self and who is able to use his power to
assist others towards the goal of Self-realisation.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji often said that God, Guru and the Self are identical;
the Guru is God in human form and, simultaneously, he is also the Self in the Heart of each devotee.
Because he is both inside and outside, his powers work in two different ways. The outer Guru gives
instructions and by his power enables the devotee to keep his attention on the Self; the inner Guru pulls
the devotee’s mind back to its source, absorbs it in the Self and finally destroys it.
It is a basic tenet of Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji’s teaching that a Guru is
necessary for almost everyone who is striving towards a permanent awareness of the Self. The catalytic
role of the Guru in spiritual development is therefore crucial; except in rare instances, ignorance of the
Self is so deeply rooted that individual seekers are unable to escape from it by their own efforts.
Although Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji taught that a Guru is indispensable for
those seeking Self-realisation, he also pointed out that the Guru has no power to bring about realisation
in those who are not energetically seeking it. If the individual seeker makes a serious attempt to
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discover the Self, then the grace and power of the Guru will automatically start to flow. If no such
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attempt is made, the Guru is helpless.
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The Teachings of Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji.
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Question: What is Guru’s grace? How does it lead to Self-realisation?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Guru is the Self. Sometimes in his life a man
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becomes dissatisfied and not content with what he has, he seeks the satisfaction of his desires through
prayer to God. His mind is gradually purified until he longs to know God, more to obtain his grace than
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to satisfy his worldly desires. Then, God’s grace begins to manifest. God takes the form of a Guru and
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appears to the devotee, teaches him the truth and, more over, purifies his mind by association. The
devotee’s mind gains strength and is then able to turn inward. By meditation it is further purified and it
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remains still without the least ripple. That calm expanse is the Self.
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The Guru is both external and internal. From the exterior he gives a push to the mind to turn it inwards.
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From the interior he pulls the mind towards the Self and helps in the quietening of the mind. That is
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Guru’s grace. There is no difference between God, Guru and the Self.
Questioner: In the Theosophical Society they meditate in order to seek masters to guide them.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The master is within; meditation is meant to
remove the ignorant idea that he is only outside. If he is a stranger whom you await, he is bound to
disappear also. What is the use of a transient being like that? But so long as you think you are separate
or that you are the body, an external master is also necessary and he will appear to have a body. When
the wrong identification of oneself with the body ceases, the master will be found to be none other than
the Self.
Question: Will the Guru help us to know the Self through initiation?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Does the Guru hold you by the hand and whisper in
the ear? You may imagine him to be what you are yourself. Because you think you are with a body, you
think he also has a body and that he will do something tangible to you. His work lies within, in the
spiritual realm.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: God, who is immanent, in His grace takes pity on
the loving devotee and manifests himself according to the devotee’s development. The devotee thinks
that he is a man and expects a relationship between two physical bodies. But the Guru, who is a God or
the Self incarnate works from within, helps the man to see the error of his ways and guides him on the
right path until he realises the Self within.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Steady abidance in the Self, looking at all with an
equal eye, unshakable courage at all times, in all places and circumstances.
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Question: There are a number of spiritual teachers teaching
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various paths. Whom should one take for one’s Guru?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Choose that one where you find you get shanti
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(peace).
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that
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is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other
words he wants cessation of his activities. If a teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or in
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place of, his other activities, can that be a help to the seeker?
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Activity is creation. Activity is the destruction of one’s inherent happiness. If activity is advocated the
adviser is not a master but a killer. In such circumstances either the Creator (Brahma) or death (Yama)
may be said to have come in the guise of a master. Such a person cannot liberate the aspirant; he can
only strengthen his fetters.
Question: If it is true that the Guru is one’s own Self, what is the principle underlying the doctrine which
says that, however learned a disciple may be or whatever occult powers he may possess, he cannot
attain Self-realisation without the grace of the Guru?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Although in absolute truth the state of the Guru is
that of oneself (the Self), it is very hard for the self which has become the individual (jiva or embodied
soul) through ignorance, to realise its true state or nature without the grace of the Guru.
Question: If that is so, how is it that it is said that the disciple realises his true state by the Guru’s grace?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: It is like the elephant, which wakes up on seeing a
lion in his dream. Even as the elephant wakes up at the mere sight of the lion, so too is it certain that the
disciple wakes up from the sleep of ignorance into the wakefulness of true knowledge through the
Guru’s benevolent look of grace.
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Question: What is the significance of the saying that the nature of the real Guru is that of the Supreme
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Lord (Sarvesvara)?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: First, the individual soul, which desires to attain the
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state of Godhood, or the state of true knowledge, practises incessant devotion. When the individual’s
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devotion has reached a mature stage, the Lord, who is the witness of the individual soul and identical
with it, manifests. He appears in human form with the help of Sat-Chit-Ananda (Existence,
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Consciousness and Bliss Absolute), his three natural features, and form the name, which he also
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graciously assumes. In the guise of blessing the disciple he absorbs him in Himself. According to this
doctrine the Guru can truly be called the Lord.
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Question: How then some great persons attain knowledge without a Guru?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: To a few mature persons the Lord shines as the
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Question: How is one to decide upon a proper Guru? What is the swarupa (nature or real form) of a
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Guru?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: He is the proper Guru to whom your mind is
attuned. If you ask, "How to decide who is the Guru and what is his swarupa?", he should be endowed
with tranquillity, patience, forgiveness and other virtues; he should be capable of attracting others even
with his eyes just as a magnet attracts iron; he should have a feeling of equality towards all. He who has
these virtues is the true Guru, but one wants to know the swarupa of the Guru, one must know one’s
own swarupa first. How can one know the real nature of the Guru if one does not know one’s own real
nature first? If you want to perceive the real nature or form of the Guru you must first learn to look
upon the whole universe as Guru rupam (the form of the Guru). One must see the Guru in all living
beings. It is the same with God. You must look upon all objects as God’s rupa (form). How can he who
does not know his own Self perceive the real form of God or the real form of the Guru? How can he
determine them? Therefore, first of all know your own real form and nature.
Question: Isn’t a Guru necessary to know even that?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: That is true. The world contains many great men.
Look upon him as your Guru with whom your mind gets attuned. The one in whom you have faith is your
Guru.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Liberation is not anywhere outside you. It is only
within. If a man is anxious for deliverance, the internal Guru pulls him in and the external Guru pushes
him into the Self.
Question: Some people reported you to have said that there was no need for a Guru. Others gave the
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opposite report.
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What does Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji say?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: I have never said that there is no need for a Guru.
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Questioner: Sri Aurobindo and others refer to you as having had no Guru.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: It all depends on what you call a Guru. He need not
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be in a human form. Dattatreya had twenty-four Gurus including the five elements- earth, water, etc.
Every object in this world was his Guru.
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The Guru is absolutely necessary. The Upanishads say that none but a Guru can take a man out of the
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Questioner: I mean a human Guru- Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji did not have one.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: I might have had one at one time or other. But did I
not sing hymns to Silchar? What is a Guru? Guru is God or the Self. First a man prays to God to fulfil his
desires.
A time comes when he will no more pray for the fulfilment of material desires but for God Himself. God
then appears to him in some form or other, human or non-human, to guide him to Himself in answer to
his prayer and according to his needs.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Guru is only one. He is not physical.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: How did he know it? One can say so after realising
but not before.
Questioner: Then there is no need to ask questions. I do not feel the ever-present help.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Surrender and you will find it.
Questioner: I am always at your feet. Will Bhagavan give us some upadesa (teaching) to follow?
Otherwise how can I get help living 600 miles away?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The sadguru (the Guru who is one with Being) is
within.
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Questioner: Sadguru is necessary to guide me to understand it.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The sadguru is within.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: That visible Guru says that he is within.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Yes, it is. Is not your practice itself due to such
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grace? The fruits are the result of the practice and follow it automatically. There is a stanza in Kaivalya
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which says, ‘O Guru! You have been always with me, watching me through several incarnations, and
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ordaining my course until I was liberated.’ The Self manifests externally as the Guru when the occasion
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Question: Some disciples of Shirdi Sai Baba worship a picture of him and say that it is their Guru. How
could that be?
They can worship it as God, but what benefit could they get by worshipping it as their Guru?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: They secure concentration by that.
Question: That is all very well, I agree. It may be to some extent an exercise in concentration. But isn’t a
Guru required for that concentration?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Certainly, but after all, Guru only means guri
(concentration).
Questioner: How can a lifeless picture help in developing deep concentration? It requires a living Guru
who could show it in practice. It is possible perhaps for Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree
Dr.Rupnathji to attain perfection without a living Guru, but is it possible for people like myself?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: That is true. Even so, by worshipping a lifeless
portrait, the mind gets concentrated to a certain extent. That concentration will not remain constant
unless one knows one’s own Self by enquiring. For that enquiry, a Guru’s help is necessary.
Question: It is said that the Guru can make his disciple realise the Self by transmitting some of his own
power to him? Is it true?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Yes. The Guru does not bring about Self-realisation.
He simply removes all the obstacles to it. The Self is always realised.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: So long as you seek Self-realisation the Guru is
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necessary. Guru is the Self. Take Guru to be the real Self and your self as the individual self. The
disappearance of this sense of duality is the removal of ignorance. So long as duality persists in you the
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Guru is necessary. Because you identify yourself with the body, you think that the Guru is also a body.
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You are not the body, nor is the Guru. You are the Self and so is the Guru. This knowledge is gained by
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Question: How can one know whether a particular individual is competent to be a Guru?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: By the peace of mind found in his presence and by
the sense of respect you feel for him.
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Question: If the Guru happens to turn out incompetent, what will be the fate of the disciple who has
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Each one according to his merits.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Surrender will make one understand the grace.
Questioner: I have surrendered heart and soul. I am the best judge of my heart. Still I do not feel the
grace.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: If you had surrendered the question would not
arise.
Questioner: I have surrendered. Still the questions arise.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Grace is constant. Your judgment is the variable.
Where else should the fault lie?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Who is a master? He is the Self after all. According
to the stages of development of the mind the Self manifests as the master externally. The famous
ancient Dattatreya said that he had more than twenty-four masers. The master is one from whom one
learns anything. The Guru may be sometimes inanimate also, as in the case of Dattatreya. God, Guru
and the Self are identical.
A spiritually minded man thinks that God is all pervading and takes God for his Guru. Later, God brings
him in contact with a personal Guru and the man recognises him as all in all. Lastly the same man is
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made by the grace of the master to feel that his Self is the reality and nothing else. Thus he finds that
the Self is the master.
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Question: It is said in the Srimad Bhagavad Gita: "Realise the Self with pure intellect and also by service
to the Guru and by enquiry." How are they to be reconciled? AK
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identical. So long as the sense of duality persists in you, you seek a Guru, thinking that he is different
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from you. However, he teaches you the truth and you gain the insight.
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He who bestows the supreme knowledge of Self upon the soul by making it face towards Self alone is
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the supreme Guru who is praised by sages as the form of God, who is Self. Cling to him. By approaching
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the Guru and serving him faithfully, one should learn through his grace the cause of one’s birth and
one’s suffering. Knowing then that these are due to one’s straying from Self, it is best to abide firmly as
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Self.
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Although those who have embraced and are steadfastly following the path to salvation may at times
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happen to swerve from the Vedic path either due to forgetfulness or due to some other reasons, know
that they should not at any time go against the words of the Guru. The words of sages assure that if one
does a wrong to God, it can be rectified by the Guru, but that a wrong done to a Guru cannot be
rectified even by God.
For one who, due to rare, intense and abundant love, has complete faith in the glance of grace
bestowed by the Guru, there will be no suffering and he will live in this world like Puruhuta (a name if
Indra, the king of the gods).
Peace, the one thing which is desired by everyone, cannot be attained in any way, by any one, at any
time or in any place, unless stillness of mind is obtained through the grace of the Sadguru. Therefore,
always seek that grace with a one-pointed mind.
Question: There are disciples of Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji who have had his
grace and realised without any considerable difficulty. I too wish to have that grace. Being a woman, and
living at a long distance I cannot avail myself of Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji’s
holy company as much as I would wish and as often as I would. Possibly I may not be able to return. I
request Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji’s grace. When I am back in my place, I want
to remember Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji. May Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi
Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji be pleased to grant my prayer.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Where are you going? You are not going anywhere.
Even supposing you are the body, has your body come from Delhi to Silchar? You simply sat in the car
and one conveyance or another moved. And finally you say that you have come here. The fact is that
you are not the body. The Self does not move, the world moves in it. You are only what you are. There is
no change in you. So then, even after what looks like departure from here, you are here and there and
everywhere. These scenes shift.
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As for grace, grace is within you. If it is external it is useless.
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Grace is the Self. You are never out of its operation. Grace is always there.
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Questioner: I mean that when I remember your form, my mind should be strengthened and a response
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should come from your side too. I should not be left to my individual efforts, which are after all only
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weak.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Grace is the Self. I have already said, if you
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remember Bhagavan, you are prompted to do so by the Self. Is not grace already there? Is there a
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moment when grace is not operating in you? Your remembrance is the forerunner of grace. That is the
response, that is the stimulus, that is the Self and that is grace. There is no cause for anxiety.
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Question: Can I dispense with outside help and by my own effort get to the deeper truth by myself?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The very fact that you are possessed of the quest
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for the Self is a manifestation of the divine grace. It is effulgent in the Heart, the inner being, the real
Self. It draws you from within. You have to attempt to get in from outside. Your attempt is the earnest
quest; the deep inner movement is grace. That is why I say there is no real quest without grace, nor is
there grace active for him who does not seek the Self. Both are necessary.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Guru is necessary so long as there is ignorance.
Ignorance is due to the self-imposed but wrong limitation of the Self. God, on being worshipped,
bestows steadiness in devotion, which leads to surrender. On the devotee surrendering, God shows his
mercy by manifesting as the Guru. The Guru, otherwise God, guides the devotee, saying that God is
within and that he is not different from the Self. This leads to introversion of mind and finally to
realisation.
Question: If grace is so important, what is the role of individual effort?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Effort is necessary up to the state of realisation.
Even then the Self should spontaneously become evident, otherwise happiness will not be complete. Up
to that state of spontaneity there must be effort in some form or another.
There is a state beyond our efforts or effortlessness. Until it is realised effort is necessary. After tasting
such bliss, even once, one will repeatedly try to regain it. Having once experienced the bliss of peace no
one wants to be out of it or to engage in any other activity.
Question: Is divine grace necessary for attaining realisation, or can an individual’s honest efforts by
themselves lead to the state from which there is no return to life and death?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Divine grace is essential for realisation. It leads one
to God realisation. But such grace is vouchsafed only to him who is a true devotee or a yogi. It is given
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only to those who have striven hard and ceaselessly on the path towards freedom.
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Question: Does distance have any effect upon grace?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Time and space are within us. You are always in
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your Self. How do time and space affect it?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: That shows that all are one.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji:You are neck deep in water and yet cry for water. It
is as good as saying that one who is neck deep in water feels thirsty, or that a fish in water feels thirsty,
or that water feels thirsty.
Grace is always there. Dispassion cannot be acquired, nor realisation of the truth, nor inherence in the
Self, in the absence of Guru’s grace.
But practice is also necessary. Staying in the Self by one’s efforts is like training a roguish bull confined to
his stall by tempting him with luscious grass and preventing him from straying.
Quetioner: I have recently come across a Tamil song in which the author laments he is not like the
tenacious young monkey that can hold on to its mother tightly, but rather like a puling (weak) kitten that
must be carried by the neck in its mother’s jaws. The author therefore prays to God to take care of him.
My case is exactly the same. You must take pity on me Bhagavan. Hold me by the neck and see that I
don’t fall and get injured.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: That is impossible. It is necessary both for you to
strive and for the Guru to help.
Question: How long will it take for one to get the grace of the Guru?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Why do you desire to know?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Even such a desire is an obstacle. The Self is ever
there; there is nothing without it. Be the Self and the desires and doubts will disappear.
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with the body the Guru is considered to be a body. But from the Guru’s outlook the Guru is only the Self.
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The Self is one only and the Guru tells you that the Self alone is. Is not then the Self your Guru? Where
else will grace come from? It is from the Self alone. Manifestation of the Self is a manifestation of grace
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and vice versa. All these doubts arise because of the wrong outlook and consequent expectation of
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things external to oneself. Nothing is external to the Self.
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anyone who ask for them, he frequently pointed out that his ‘silent teachings’ were more direct and
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more powerful. These ‘silent teachings’ consisted of a spiritual force, which seemed to emanate from his
form, a force so powerful that he considered it to be the most direct and important aspect of his
teachings. Instead of giving out verbal instructions on how to control the mind, he effortlessly emitted a
silent power, which automatically quietened the minds of everyone in his vicinity. The people who were
attuned to this force report that they experienced it as a state of inner peace and well being; in some
advanced devotees it even precipitated a direct experience of the Self.
This method of teaching has a long tradition in India, its most famous exponent being Dakshinamurti, a
manifestation of Siva who brought four learned sages to an experience of the Self through the power of
his silence. Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji frequently spoke of Dakshinamurti with
great approval and his name crops up in many of his conversations.
This flow of power from the Guru can be received by anyone whose attention is focused on the Self or
on the form of the Guru; distance is no impediment to its efficacy. This attention is often called Sat-
sanga, which literally means ‘association with being’. Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji
wholeheartedly encouraged this practice and frequently said that it was the most efficient way of
bringing about a direct experience of the Self. Traditionally it involves being in the physical presence of
one who has realised the Self, but Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji gave it a much
wider definition. He said that the most important element in Sat-sang was the mental connection with
the Guru; Sat-sang takes place not only in his presence but whenever and wherever one thinks of him.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: A realised one sends out waves of spiritual
influence, which draw many people towards him. Yet he may sit in a cave and maintain complete
silence. We may listen to lectures upon truth and come away with hardly any grasp of the subject, but to
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come into contact with a realised one, though he speaks nothing, will give much more grasp of the
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subject. He never needs to go out among the public. If necessary he can use others as instruments.
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The Guru is the bestower of silence who reveals the light of Self-knowledge that shines as the residual
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reality. Spoken words are of no use whatsoever if the eyes of the Guru meet the eyes of the disciple.
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Question: Why does not Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji go about and preach the
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: How do you know I am not doing it? Does preaching
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consist in mounting a platform and haranguing the people around? Preaching is simple communication
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of knowledge; it can really be done in silence only. What do you think of a man who listens to a sermon
for an hour and goes away without having been impressed by it so as to change his life? Compare him
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with another, who sits in a holy presence and goes away after some time with his outlook on life totally
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changed. Which is the better, to preach loudly without effect or to sit silently sending out inner force?
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Again, how does speech arise? First there is abstract knowledge. Out of this arises the ego, which in turn
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gives rise to thought, and thought to the spoken word. So the word is the great grandson of the original
source. If the word can produce an effect, judge for yourself how much more powerful must be the
preaching through silence.
Question: Does Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji give diksha (initiation)?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Mouna (silence) is the best and the most potent
diksha. That was practised by Sri Dakshinamurti. Initiation by touch, look, etc., are all of a lower order.
Silent initiation changes the hearts of all.
Dakshinamurti observed silence when the disciples approached him. That is the highest form of
initiation. It includes the other forms. There must be subject-object relationship established in the other
diksha. First the subject must emanate and then the object. Unless these two are there how is the one
to look at the other or touch him? Mouna diksha (silent initiation) is the most perfect; it comprises
looking, touching. It will purify the individual in every way and establish him in the reality.
Questioner: Does a spiritual Guru can transfer spirituality substantially to the disciple.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Is there a substance to be transferred? Transfer
means eradication of the sense of being the disciple. The master does it. Not that the man was
something at one time and metamorphosed later into another.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: God, grace and Guru are all synonymous and also
eternal and immanent. Is not the Self already within? Is it for the Guru to bestow it by his look? If a Guru
thinks so, he does not deserve the name.
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The books say that there are so many kinds of diksha, initiation by hand, by touch, by eye, etc. They also
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say that the Guru makes some rites with fire, water, japa or mantra and calls such fantastic
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performances diksha, as if the disciple becomes ripe only after such processes are gone through by the
guru.
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If the individual is sought he is nowhere to be found. Such is the Guru. Such is Dakshinamurti. What did
he do? He was silent when the disciples appeared before him. He maintained silence and the doubts of
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the disciples were dispelled, which means that they lost their individual identities. That is jnana
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(knowledge) and not all the verbiage usually associated with it.
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Silence is the most potent form of work. However vast and emphatic the sastras (scriptures) may be
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they fail in their effect. The Guru is quiet and peace prevails in all. His silence is vaster and more
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emphatic than all the sastras put together. These questions arise because of the feeling that, having
been here so long, heard so much, exerted so hard, one has not gained anything. The work proceeding
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Question: Can the Guru’s silence really bring about advanced states of spiritual awareness?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: There is an old story, which demonstrates the
power of the Guru’s silence. Ahai composed a Song, a kind of poetic composition in Bengali, in honour of
his Guru, and convened an assembly of learned Pandits (pundits) to hear the work and assess its value.
The Pandits raised the objection that a Song was only composed in honour of great heroes capable of
killing a thousand elephants in battle and that it was not in order to compose such a work in honour of
an ascetic.
Thereupon the author said, "Let us all go to my Guru and we shall have this matter settled there."
They went to the Guru and, after they had all taken their seats, the author told his Guru the purpose of
their visit. The Guru sat silent and all the others also remained in mouna (silence). The whole day
passed, the night came, and some more days and nights, and yet all sat there silently, no thought at all
occurring to any of them and nobody thinking or asking why they had come there. After three or four
days like this, the Guru moved his mind a bit, and the people assembled immediately regained their
thought activity. They then declared, ‘Conquering a thousand elephants is nothing beside this Guru’s
power to conquer the rutting elephants of all our egos put together. So certainly he deserves the Song in
his honour!
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Language is only a medium for communicating
one’s thoughts to another. It is called in only after thoughts arise. Other thoughts arise after the "I"-
thought rises and so the "I"-thought is the root of all conversation. When one remains without thinking
one understands another by menas of the universal language of silence.
Silence is ever speaking. It is a perennial flow of language, which is interrupted by speaking. These words
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I am speaking obstruct that mute language. For example, there is electricity flowing in a wire. With
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resistance to its passage, it glows as a lamp or revolves as a fan. In the wire it remains as electric energy.
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Similarly also, silence is the eternal flow of language, obstructed by words.
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What one fails to know by conversation extending to several years can be known instantly in silence, or
in front of silence. Dakshinamurti and his four disciples are a good example of this. This is the highest
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and most effective language.
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Questioner: Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji says, ‘The influence of the jnani (self-
realised) steals into the devotee in silence.’ Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji also
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says, ‘Contact with great men (mahatmas) is one efficacious means of realising one’s true being’.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Yes. What is the contradiction? Jnani, great men,
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Questioner: No
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Contact with them is good. They will work through
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silence. By speaking their power is reduced. Silence is most powerful. Speech is always less powerful
than silence, so mental contact is the best.
Question: Does this hold good even after the dissolution of the physical body of the jnani or is it true
only so long as he is in flesh and blood?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Guru is not the physical form. So the contact will
remain even after the physical form of the Guru vanishes. One can go to another Guru after one’s Guru
passes away, but all Gurus are one and none of them is the form you see. Always mental contact is the
best.
Question: Is the operation of grace the mind of the Guru acting on the mind of the disciple or is it a
different process?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The highest form of grace is silence. It is also the
highest upadesa (teaching).
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: It is so for the seeker’s silence. The Guru’s silence is
the loudest upadesa. It is also grace in its highest form. All other dikshas (initiations) are derived from
Mouna (silence), and are therefore secondary. Mouna is the primary form. If the Guru is silent the
seeker’s mind gets purified by itself.
Questioner: Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji’s silence is itself a powerful force. It
brings about a certain peace of mind in us.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Silence is never-ending speech. Vocal speech
obstructs the other speech of silence. In silence one is in intimate contact with the surroundings. The
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silence of Dakshinamurti removed the doubts of the four sages. Mouna Vyakhya Prakatita Tattvam
means the truth expounded by silence. Silence is said to be exposition. Silence is so potent.
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For vocal speech, organs of speech are necessary and they precede speech. But the other speech lies
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even beyond thought. It is in short transcendent speech or unspoken words (Para Vak).
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Question: Can everyone benefit from this silence?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Silence is the true Upadesa (teachings). It is the
perfect upadesa. It is suited only for the most advanced seeker. The others are unable to draw full
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inspiration from it. Therefore they require words to explain the truth. But truth is beyond words. It does
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Questioner: It is said that one look of a mahatma is enough, that idols, pilgrimages, etc., are not so
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effective. I have been here for three months, but I do not know how I have been benefited by the look
of Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The look has a purifying effect.
Purification cannot be visualised. Just as a piece of coal takes a long time to be ignited, a piece of
charcoal takes a shorter time, and a mass of gunpowder is instantaneously ignited, so it is with grades of
men coming into contact with mahatmas. The fire of wisdom consumes all actions. Wisdom is acquired
by association with the wise (Sat-sanga) or rather its mental atmosphere.
Question: Can the Guru’s silence bring about realisation if the disciple makes no effort?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: In the proximity of a great master, the Vasanas
(subtle impressions that lead to desires) cease to be active, the mind becomes still and Samadhi results.
Thus the disciple gains true knowledge and right experience in the presence of the master. To remain
unshaken in it further efforts are necessary. Eventually the disciple will know it to be his real being and
will thus be liberated even while alive.
Question: If the search has to be made within, is it necessary to be in the physical proximity of the
Master?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: It is necessary to be so until all doubts are at an end.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Yes, that is called grace. Individually we are
incapable because the mind is weak. Grace is necessary. Sadhu seva (serving a sadhu or a mendicant)
will bring it about. There is however nothing new to get. Just as a weak man comes under the control of
a stronger one, the weak mind of a man comes under control easily in the presence of strong minded
sadhus. That which is only grace; there is nothing else.
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Question: Is it necessary to serve the Guru physically?
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: The Sastras (scriptures) say that one must serve a
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Guru for twelve years in order to attain Self-realisation. What does the Guru do? Does he hand it over to
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the disciple? Is not the Self always realised? What does the common belief mean then? Man is always
the Self and yet he does not know it. Instead he confounds it with the non-Self, the body, etc. Such
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confusion is due to ignorance. If ignorance is wiped out the confusion will cease to exist and the true
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knowledge will be unfolded. By remaining in contact with realised sages the man gradually loses the
ignorance until its removal is complete. The eternal Self is thus revealed.
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Questioner: You say that association with the wise (Sat-sanga) and service of them is required of the
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disciple.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Yes, the first really means association with the
unmanifest Sat or absolute existence, but as very few can do that, they have to take second best which
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is association with the manifest Sat, that is, the Guru. Association with sages should be made because
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thoughts are so persistent. The sage has already overcome the mind and remains in peace. Being in his
proximity helps to bring about this condition in others, otherwise there is no meaning in seeking his
company. The guru provides the needed strength for this, unseen by others.
Service is primarily to abide in the Self, but it also includes making the Guru’s body comfortable and
looking after his place of abode. Contact with the Guru is also necessary, but this means spiritual
contact. If the disciple finds the Guru internally, then it does not matter where he goes. Staying here or
elsewhere must be understood to be the same and to have the same effect.
Question: My profession requires me to stay near my place of work. I cannot remain in the vicinity of
sadhus. Can I have realisation even in the absence of sat-sanga?
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Sat is Aham Pratyaya Saram, the Self of selves. The
sadhu is that Self of selves. He is immanent in all. Can anyone remain without the Self? No. So no one is
away from sat-sanga.
Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: Do you mean physical proximity?
What is the good of it? The mind alone matters. The mind must be contacted. Sat-sanga will make the
mind sink into the Heart.
Such associations both mental and physical. The extremely visible being of the Guru pushes the mind
inward. He is also in the Heart of the seeker and so draws the latter’s inward-bent mind into the Heart.
Questioner: All that I want to know is whether sat-sanga is necessary and whether my coming here will
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help me or not.
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Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji: First you must decide what is sat-sanga. It means
association with Sat or Reality. One who knows or has realised Sat is also regarded as Sat. Such
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association with Sat or with one who knows Sat is absolutely necessary for all. Sankara has said that in
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all the three worlds there is no boat like sat-sanga to carry one safely across the ocean of births and
deaths.
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Sat-sanga means sanga (association) with Sat. Sat is only the Self. Since the Self is not now understood
to be Sat, the company of the sage who has thus understood it is sought.
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[Note: The following quotation gives an indication of the power of sat-sanga. It consists of five stray
Sanskrit verses that Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji came across at various times. He
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was so impressed by their contents that he translated them into Bengali and incorporated them in Divya
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Darshan, one of his own written works which deals with the nature of reality.]
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If one gains association with sadhus, of what use are all the religious observances (niyamas)? When the
excellent cool southern breeze itself is blowing, what is the use of holding a hand fan?
Sacred bathing places, that are composed of water, and images and deities, which are made of stone
and earth, cannot be comparable to those great souls (mahatmas).
Ah, what a wonder! The bathing places and deities bestow purity of mind after countless days, whereas
such purity is instantly bestowed upon people as soon as sadhus see them with their eyes.
Heat will be removed by the cool moon, poverty by the celestial wish-fulfilling tree and sin by the
Ganges. But know that all these, beginning with heat, will be removed merely by having darshan (sight)
of incomparable sadhus.
The supreme state which is praised and which is attained here in this life by clear vichara, which arises in
the Heart when association with a sadhu (a noble person or one who has realised the Self) is gained, is
impossible to attain by listening to preachers, by studying and learning the meaning of the scriptures, by
virtuous deeds or by any other means.
By sat-sanga the association with the objects of the world will be removed. When that worldly
association is removed the attachment or tendencies of the mind will be destroyed. Those who are
devoid of mental attachment will perish in that which is motionless. Thus they attain Jivan Mukti
(liberation). Cherish their association.
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Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji (Dr.Rupak Nath) are given as
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*HUGE NUMBER OF MOST IMPORTANT PRECIOUS BOOKS WRITTEN BY SIDDHA
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"Mahakali Sadhna"
Famous Tantra Books Written By Dr.Rupnathji(Dr.Rupak Nath) are given here as follows:-
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3. Kaam Raj Tantra
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4. Shivagam Tantra
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6. Kuluddish Tantra
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7. Virbhadrodish Tantra
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9. Damar Tantra
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28. Taaravaran Tantra
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29. Chandra Pith Tantra
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30. Meru Tantra UP
31. Chatu sati Tantra
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53. Tantra Choodamani Tantra
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54. Brihast Shrikram Tantra
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56. Shidant Shekar Tantra
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78. Tantra Pradeep
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79. Taara Vilas
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80. Vishwa Matrika Tantra UP
81. Prapanch Saar Tantra
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1. Kali Kitab
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3. Uttar Tantra
4. Neel Tantra
5. Veer Tantra
6. Kumari Tantra
7. Kali Tantra
8. Narayani Tantra
9. Tarani Tantra
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19. Vishudh Deveshawar Tantra
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20. Sammohan Tantra
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21. Gopiniay Tantra UP
22. Brihaddautami Tantra
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44. Raj Rajeshwari Tantra
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45. Maha Maheshwari Tantra
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46. Gavakshy Tantra UP
47. Gandharv Tantra
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By Tantra Siddha Maha Yogi Shastrishree Dr.Rupnathji
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Every soul is destined to be perfect, and every being, in the end, will attain a state of perfection.
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Whatever we are now is the result of our acts and thoughts in the past; and whatever we shall be in the
future will be the result of what we think and do now. But this, the shaping of our own destinies does
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not preclude our receiving help from outside; nay, in the vast majority of cases such help is absolutely
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necessary. When it comes, the higher powers and possibilities of the soul are quickened, spiritual life is
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awakened, growth is animated, and man becomes holy and perfect in the end.
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This quickening impulse cannot be derived from books. The soul can only receive impulses from another
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soul, and from nothing else. We may study books all our lives, we may become very intellectual, but in
the end we find that we have not developed at all spiritually. It is not true that a high order of
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intellectual development always goes hand in hand with a proportionate development of the spiritual
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side in man. In studying books we are sometimes deluded into thinking that thereby we are being
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spiritually helped; but if we analyse the effect of the study of books on ourselves, we shall find that at
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the utmost it is only our intellect that derives profit from such studies, and not our inner spirit.
This inadequacy of books to quicken spiritual growth is the reason why, although almost every one of us
can speak most wonderfully on spiritual matters, when it comes to action and the living of a truly
spiritual life, we find ourselves so awfully deficient. To quicken the spirit, the impulse must come from
another soul.
The person from whose soul such impulse comes is called the Guru – the teacher; and the person to
whose soul the impulse is conveyed is called the Shishya – the student. To convey such an impulse to
any soul, in the first place, the soul from which it proceeds must possess the power of transmitting it, as
it were, to another; and in the second place, the soul to which it is transmitted must be fit to receive it.
The seed must be a living seed, and the field must be ready ploughed. And when both these conditions
are fulfilled, a wonderful growth of genuine religion takes place.
"The true preacher of religion has to be of wonderful
And when both of these are really wonderful and extraordinary, then will a splendid spiritual awakening
result, and not otherwise. Such alone are the real teachers, and such alone are also the real students,
the real aspirants. All others are only playing with spirituality. They have just a little curiosity awakened,
just a little intellectual aspiration kindled in them, but are standing on the outward fringe of the horizon
of religion.
There is no doubt, some value even in that, as it may, in course of time, result in the awakening of a real
thirst for religion; and it is a mysterious law of nature that, as soon as the field is ready, the seed must
and does come; as soon as the soul earnestly desires to have religion, the transmitter of the religious
force must and does appear to help that soul. When the power that attracts the light of religion in the
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receiving soul is full and strong, the power that answers to that attraction and sends in light does come
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as a matter of course.
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Dangers in regard to the Student
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There are, however, certain great dangers in the way. There is, for instance, the danger to the receiving
soul of its mistaking momentary emotions for real religious yearning. We may study that in ourselves.
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Many a times in our lives, somebody dies whom we loved. We receive a blow. We feel that the world is
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slipping between our fingers, that we want something surer and higher, and that we must become
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religious. In a few days that wave of feeling has passed away, and we are left stranded just where we
were before.
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We are all of us often mistaking such impulses for real thirst after religion; but as long as these
momentary emotions are thus mistaken, that continuous, real craving of the soul for religion will not
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come; and we shall not find the true transmitter of spirituality into our nature. So whenever we are
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tempted to complain of our search after the truth, that we desire so much, proving vain, instead of so
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complaining, our first duty ought to be to look into our own souls, and find whether the craving in the
heart is real. Then, in the vast majority of cases it would be discovered that we were not fit for receiving
the truth, that there was no real thirst for spirituality.
There are still greater dangers in regard to the transmitter, the Guru. There are many, who, though
immersed in ignorance, yet, in the pride of their hearts, fancy they know everything, and not only do not
stop there, but offer to take others on their shoulders; and thus the blind leading the blind, both fall into
the ditch.
From Katha Upanishad, I.ii.5: "Fools dwelling in darkness, wise in their own conceit, and puffed up with
vain knowledge, go round and round staggering to and fro, like blind men led by the blind."
The world is full of these. Every one wants to be a teacher. Every beggar wants to make a gift of a million
dollars! Just as these beggars are ridiculous, so are these teachers.
The teachers whose wisdom and truth shine like the light of the sun are the very greatest the world has
known, and they are worshipped as God by the major portion of mankind. But we may get help from
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comparatively lesser ones also; only we ourselves do not possess intuition enough to judge properly of
the man from whom we receive teaching and guidance. So there ought to be certain tests, certain
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conditions, for the teacher to satisfy, as there are also for the taught.
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The conditions necessary for the taught are purity, a real thirst after knowledge, and perseverance.
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No impure soul can be really religious. Purity in thought, speech and act is absolutely necessary for any
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one to be religious. As to the thirst after knowledge, it is an old law that we all get whatever we want.
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None of us can get anything other than what we fix our hearts upon. To pant for religion truly is a very
difficult thing, not at all so easy as we generally imagine. Hearing religious talks or reading religious
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books is no proof yet of a real want felt in the heart. There must a continuous struggle, a constant fight ,
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an unremitting grappling with our lower nature, till the higher want is actually felt and the victory is
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achieved. It is not a question of one or two days, of years, or of lives. The struggle may have to go on for
hundreds of lifetimes. The success sometimes may come immediately, but we must be ready to wait
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patiently even for what may look like an infinite length of time. The student who sets out with such a
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In regard to the teacher, we must see that he knows the spirit of the scriptures. The whole world reads
Bibles, Vedas and Korans; but they are all only words, syntax, etymology, philology, the dry bones of
religion. The teacher who deals too much in words, and allows the mind to be carried away by the force
of the words, loses the spirit. It is the knowledge of the spirit of the scriptures alone that constitutes the
true religious teacher. The network of the words of the scriptures is like a huge forest, in which the
human mind often loses itself and finds no way out.
Those who employ such methods to impart religion to others, are only desirous to show off their
learning, so that the world may praise them as great scholars. You will find that no one of the great
teachers of the world ever went into these various explanations of the texts. There is with them no
attempt at "text-torturing", no eternal playing upon the meaning of words and their roots. Yet they
nobly taught, while others who have nothing to teach, have taken up a word sometimes and written a
three-volume book on its origin, on the man who used it first, and on what that man was accustomed to
eat, and how long he slept, and so on.
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The question is often asked, "Why should we look into the character and personality of a teacher? We
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have only to judge of what he says, and take that up." This is not right. If a man wants to teach me
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something of dynamics, of chemistry, or any other physical science, he may be anything he likes,
because what the physical sciences require is merely an intellectual equipment; but in the spiritual
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sciences it is impossible from first to last that there can be any spiritual light in the soul that is impure.
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What religion can an impure man teach? The sine qua non of acquiring spiritual truth for one’s self, or
for imparting it to others, is the purity of heart and soul. A vision of God, or a glimpse of the beyond,
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Hence with the teacher of religion we must see first what he is, and then what he says. He must be
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perfectly pure, and then alone comes the value of his words, because he is only then the true
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""transmitter". What can he transmit if he has not spiritual power in himself? There must be the worthy
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vibration of spirituality in the mind of the teacher, so that it may be sympathetically conveyed to the
mind of the taught. The function of the teacher is indeed an affair of the transference of something, and
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not one of mere stimulation of the existing intellectual or other faculties in the taught. Something real
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and appreciable as an influence comes from the teacher and goes to the taught. Therefore the teacher
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must be pure.
The third condition is in regard to the motive. The teacher must not teach with any ulterior selfish
motive – for money, name or fame.
His work must be simply out of love, out of pure love for mankind at large. The only medium through
which spiritual force can be transmitted is love. Any selfish motive, such the desire for gain or for name,
will immediately destroy this conveying medium. God is love, and only he who has known God as love,
can be a teacher of godliness and God to man.
When you see that in your teacher these conditions are all fulfilled, you are safe. If they are not, it is
unsafe to allow yourself to be taught by him, for there is the great danger that, if he cannot convey
goodness to your heart, he may convey wickedness. This danger must by all means be guarded against.
"He who is learned in the scriptures, sinless, unpolluted by lust, and is the greatest knower of the
Brahman (Supreme Reality)" is the real teacher."
From what has been said, it naturally follows that we cannot be taught to love, appreciate and
assimilate religion everywhere and by everybody. The "books in the running brooks, sermons in stones,
and good in everything" is all very true as a poetical figure; but nothing can impart to a man a single
grain of truth unless he has the undeveloped germs of it in himself. A blind man may go to a museum,
but he will not profit by it in any way; his eyes must be opened first, and then alone he will be able to
learn what the things in the museum can teach.
This eye-opener of the aspirant after religion is the teacher. With the teacher, therefore, our
relationship is the same as that between an ancestor and his descendant. Without faith, humility,
submission, and veneration in our hearts towards our religious teacher, there cannot be any growth of
religion in us; and it is a significant fact that, where this kind of relation between the teacher and the
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taught prevails, there alone gigantic spiritual men are growing; while in those countries which have
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neglected to keep up this kind of relation, the religious teacher has become a mere lecturer, the teacher
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expecting his five dollars and the person taught expecting his brain to be filled with the teacher’s words,
and each going his own way after this much has been done. Under such circumstances spirituality
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becomes almost an unknown quantity. There is none to transmit it, and none to have it transmitted to.
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Religion with such people becomes business. They think they can obtain it with their dollars. Would to
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God that religion could be obtained so easily! But unfortunately it cannot be.
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Religion which is the highest knowledge and the highest wisdom, cannot be bought, nor can it be
acquired from books. You must thrust your head into all the corners of the world, you may explore the
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Himalayas, the Alps, and the Caucasus, you may sound the bottom of the sea, and pry into every nook of
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Tibet and the desert of Gobi, you will not find it anywhere until your heart is ready for receiving it and
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your teacher has come. And when that divinely appointed teacher comes, serve him with childlike
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confidence and simplicity, freely open your heart to his influence, and see in him God manifested. Those
who come to seek truth with such a spirit of love and veneration, to them the Lord of Truth reveals the
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From The Mahabharata
Vyasa the son of Parsara, after the arrival of his puissant son, continued to dwell there on the Himavat
(Himalayas) engaged in teaching his disciples and his son. One day, as he was seated, his disciples, all
well skilled in the Vedas, having their senses under control, and endued with tranquil souls, sat
themselves around him. All of them had thoroughly mastered the Vedas with their branches. All of them
were observant of penances. With joined hands they addressed their preceptor in the following words:
The disciples said: We have through thy grace, been endued with great energy. Our fame also has
spread. There is one favour that we humbly solicit thee to grant us.
Hearing these words of theirs, the regenerate Rishi answered them, saying: Ye sons, tell me what that
boon is which ye wish I should grant you!
Hearing this answer of their preceptor, the disciple became filled with joy. Once more bowing their
heads low unto their preceptor and joining their hands, all of them in one voice said these excellent
words: If our preceptor has been pleased with us, then, O best of sages, we are sure to be crowned with
success! We all solicit thee, O great Rishi, to grant us a boon. Be thou inclined to be graceful to us. Let no
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sixth disciple (besides us five) succeed in attaining to fame! We are four. Our preceptor’s son forms the
fifth. Let the Vedas shine in only us five! Even this is the boon that we solicit.
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Hearing these words of his disciples, Vyasa, the son of Parsara, possessed of great intelligence, well
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conversant with the meaning of the Vedas, endued with a righteous soul, and always engaged in
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thinking of objects that confer benefits on a person in the world hereafter, said unto his disciples these
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righteous words fraught with great benefit: The Vedas should always be given unto him who is a
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Brahmana, or unto him who is desirous of listening to Vedic instructions, by him who eagerly wishes to
attain a residence in the region of Brahman! Do ye multiply. Let the Vedas spread (through your
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exertions). The Vedas should never be imparted unto one that has not formally become a disciple. Nor
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should they be given unto one who is not observant of good vows. Nor should they be given for dwelling
in one that is of uncleansed soul. These should be known as the proper qualifications of persons that can
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Taittiriya Upanishad
[The span of ashrama life for students was usually twelve years. The students lived with their preceptors
and served them and the ashrama during that period. They learnt the Vedas, maintained the sacrificial
fire and studied whatever the guru taught them. Below is given a model message from a guru to a
departing disciple at the end of the period. This might be said to be a ‘Convocation Address’ if we liken
the ashramas of old to the ‘residential universities’ of today. This occurs in the Taittiriya Upanishad.].
Young boys eight or more entered the ashramas and were entrusted to the care of the guru or the
preceptor. They spent twelve long years in study and sport, in service and sadhana or spiritual discipline.
They were called brahmacharis, that is, those who adopt a particular discipline in order to know
Brahman. Brahmacharya is not mere continence, but a whole code of disciplined conduct which aims at
the conservation, development and concentration of physical, mental and moral energy, in order to
attain the highest spiritual goal.
The twelve strenuous years thus spent by the youngsters in the very home of the guru in close
association with him, built up very affectionate relations between them. The gurus were expected to
take almost parental interest in their charges, while the disciples were to render filial obedience to the
gurus.
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Let us imagine in one such ashrama, a day dawns when a disciple or a group of them is about to depart
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and plunge into the wide world. He is leaving the charmed circle of the ashrama to battle with the
currents and cross-currents of life. He is to transfer himself from the cloister to the market place. He is
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now to test in the world of experience what he has learnt within the precincts of the academy. He is to
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cut off his moorings in the sheltered bay and launch the boat of his life into the open sea. Fears and
thrills of anticipated adventures fill the young man as he contemplates the prospect before him. The
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guru too feels the wrench and his heart is full of emotion. He has some anxiety about the future of his
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young disciple. But the separation is inevitable- it has to come one day. In fact, by that separation alone
can the future development of his student be ensured.
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Such are the mixed feelings that surge in the heart when the Vedic guru gives the parting message to the
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“My dear child, your study of the Vedas is over. Now go forth into the wide world.
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“Speak the truth and practise the Dharma or the Law. Never fail nor falter in the study of that part of the
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Veda that has been assigned to you. Study more but never less than thy portion.
“Give to your preceptor such wealth and such things as are dear to him. Never allow your line of life to
lapse. Behind you, you must leave children.
“Never falter from the truth nor from the Law (Dharma). Never stint nor make mistakes in doing good.
Never neglect to do that which would lead to prosperity.
“You ought not to omit to do your duties towards your gods and ancestors; commit no mistakes in
performing them.
“Revere your mother and your father as much as you revere god. Let your guru (preceptor) be looked
upon as god. Let your guest get the same respect as is due to god.
“Be thou faultless and pure in thought and action. Only such of your qualities and actions as are clearly
good should be cherished by you, and not others. Such knowers of Brahman as are greater than
ourselves ought to be highly respected by you.
“Whilst giving, give with faith; never without it. Give richly. Give with humility. Give with fear, lest you
give too little. Give with feeling and with full knowledge.
“At times you may be in doubt about the wisdom of a certain course of action. At such a time you should
act in a manner in which thoughtful and virtuous knowers of Brahman who are desirous of following the
Law, do act.
“So also, as regards your conduct towards men of ill fame; it should be like that of a thoughtful, virtuous
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knowers of Brahman who follow the Law.
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“This is the message. This is the advice. This is the knowledge. This is the command. Thus should you live
and act in life.”
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