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How to assign seismic load in staad.pro?

dear honorable engineers,

I am learning staad.pro on my self.please someone write to me how can I assign seismic load(both static and dynamic) in staad.pro especially
through is1893.Please tell me about seismic defination. When we assign self weight, joint weight,member wt,floor wt in seismic defination, shall we
again assign them in Load Case Details?or What is actual meaning?

thanks in advance

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Surojit Ghosh
Wed, Jun 16 2010 12:07 PM
Dear user,

To assign a seismic load in a structure there are two steps. First you have to define the seismic load and then you have to assign the load to
the structure.

1>  Seismic definition:

To calculate the seismic load acting on the structure, there are different parameters which should be defined at first. On basis of those
factors using the standard formula, defined in any standard code, the seismic load is calculated. In this particular part, those  parameters
like zone factor, performance factor or the soil type have to be defined to calculate the “Response acceleration coefficient”. In IS-1893 the
corresponding values are given. Also in the technical reference manual in section 5.31.2.5, you will find some information regarding these.

Next you have to define the seismic weights. It is needed to calculate the total weight of the structure to calculate the “base shear”.  There
are different types of loading. The self weight option defines the self weight of different members. If there is any load at the nodes you can
define it by joint load option. The load coming from walls can be defined under member load option. The weight of the floor can be defined
using the floor weight option.

You can select the code you want to follow. The "Include accidental load" option helps to determine the effects of accidental torsion to
account for the uncertainties in terms of centre of mass or centre of rigidity as there position can not be properly located.

2>  Load assignment:

Next the seismic load has to be assigned to the structure.  For this a new primary load case has to be created in which the seismic load has
to be added. The seismic load may be applied in X direction or may be in Z direction. There must be two separate load cases to define
seismic load in different directions. The load factor must be assigned as 1 to define that the load is acting in the positive direction. You also
have to add all other loads like dead load, live load or wind load. You can do it either by adding those loads separately in the two different
seismic load cases. Or you can create a different primary load case where you add these loads and then create another primary load case
where you have to use the “repeat load case” option to combine the loads. Load combination option, in this case, should not be used as this
is a non-linear case.

The loads due to self weight or member weight should be assigned in load case details also. Else the structure will be analyzed only for
seismic load cases.

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One most important thing is that you have to assign the seismic load cases as the first load case before defining any other load case. Else
during analysis it will give some error message.

You can perform “P-Delta analyze” as this is a non-linear case.

You can also go through Example 14. The problem will help you to understand.

Govinda
Wed, Jun 16 2010 2:59 PM
in reply to Surojit Ghosh
dear Surojit sir,

thanks a lot for your information.It helped me a lot.Also could you please tell me when we offset the members those does it
changes the cross section of member that we have previously defined.Is it necessary to offset the members.What is the effect of
offset in analysis?

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BM
Thu, Jun 17 2010 7:45 AM
in reply to Govinda
Hello Givinda,

Member offsets do not change the cross section of members. An offset is a way of saying that the point where a beam
starts or ends is at some distance away from the node associated with that location. For example, if you consider a portal
frame drawn using 3 lines like in a football goal post, the node at the start and end of the beam is usually specified at the
intersection of the centerlines of the beam and columns. However, in reality, the connection between the beam and
columns may be located at the two inner faces of the columns. So, the distance from the intersection point to the
connection point is not as flexible in bending as the rest of the beam, but is instead considered rigid (high stiffness). To
convey this information to the program, you could specify an offset at the start face of the beam (as well as at the end
face) with a value equal to half the depth of the steel section used for the column at that location.

Please go to Help-Contents-Application Examples-British Examples-Example 7 for additional information.

It is not absolutely necessary to specify offsets. The feature is there just in case you want to take advantage of the rigid
portion and reduce the bending moments on the beam.

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Paul
Thu, Apr 19 2012 10:40 PM
in reply to BM
"here must be two separate load cases to define seismic load in different directions. The load factor must be assigned as
1 to define that the load is acting in the positive direction."  Does this mean you need a combination with those given a
negative value for seismic to be applied in the other direction?

SKLose
Tue, Apr 24 2012 8:06 AM
in reply to Paul
Yes

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Nilupa
Sun, Nov 2 2014 7:18 AM
in reply to SKLose
STAAD Pro Training Video on Earthquake Load Analysis in STAAD Pro

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Haresh Belkhade
Sun, Sep 20 2020 5:56 AM
in reply to Surojit Ghosh
Dear Sir,

I have issued regarding repeat load command for seismic loading.

Sir, i have two seismic loading in x-dir. So, for two seismic loading i have created two primary load cases (say 1 & 2) and applying
the load. After that i have created one more load case (say 3) and add both loading by using repeat load command.

But when i saw the displacement of the structure for load case 3, the displacement show only 2 mm While for load case 1 & 2, the
displacement is show 42 mm.

So, sir plz suggest me the solution.

Thanks with best regards,

Haresh Belkhade.

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sarbajit rai
Thu, Mar 11 2021 4:05 AM
Helo.  Can any one please give me the exact explanation on defining and adding seismic loads, liveload and dead loads? Since in various
tutorial videos on staad pro, shows.various methods of adding load..in some videos, they define seismic loads and add self weight, member
weight and floor weight under siesmic definition. While other simply  add self weight under seismic category and add live load and dead
load in load cases.that is what made me confused. I would like to get the suitable and accurate way of assigning various loads..

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Sye
Thu, Mar 11 2021 5:19 PM
in reply to sarbajit rai

When you are using equivalent static seismic load generation you may add selfweight, joint weight, member weight etc. as part
of the Seismic Definition and then these weights are used by the software to calculate the total seismic weight which is multiplied
by a coefficient to calculate the base shear. As an alternative approach, you can define Reference Loads (of type Mass) to
include all the loads that you would want to consider for calculating the seismic weight. In this approach you would NOT include
any weights as part of the seismic definition itself. The software would automatically calculate the seismic weight using the loads
defined within the mass type Reference Load. 

No matter which method you choose from the above to define the seismic weight, you would still need to define dead load, live
loads as separate load cases because whatever you are defining as part of the Seismic Definition or as part of the Mass Type
Reference Loads, are solely used by the software for the seismic load generation.

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Soniket Chorge
Mon, Jun 7 2021 2:17 PM
Hi, I would also like to know if we need to create 2 Earthquake cases in two direction (Eg For +x with factor +1 and for -x with factor -1,
similar for z) and two cases for response (rs+x and rs-x, and how to crate =/- direction for RSX) OR does the software concider it??
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Secondly if we need to create +x,-x,+z,-z how to balance base shear?

Please do reply

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Soniket Chorge
Mon, Jun 7 2021 2:31 PM
Hi, I would also like to know if we need to create 2 Earthquake cases in two direction (Eg For +x with factor +1 and for -x with factor -1,
similar for z) and two cases for response (rs+x and rs-x, and how to crate =/- direction for RSX) OR does the software concider it??

Secondly if we need to create +x,-x,+z,-z how to balance base shear?

Please do reply

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