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New Meth Recipe - a/k/a Easter Bunny Meth

I've had a couple of clients independently tell me about a new kind of methamphetamine. I'd never
heard of it before, and it didn't make sense.

Its effects are supposed to be physiologically identical to meth, but the substance will not test as
meth, either in a Narcopouch test or in a GC/MS.

It's made by mixing 1) household ammonia (more accurately, ammonium hydroxide (aq)) 2) crumbled
charcoal (carbon) and 3) gun bluing (Selenious Acid, Cupric Nitrate, Nitric Acid, Phosphoric Acid and
water [MSDS here]) in equal parts. Then the mixture is buried in a sealed fish tank or cooler. Some
recipes call to suspend strings from the top of the container into the mixture. (hence the occasional
name "string dope") Then wait a month. By then crystals will have formed; the crystals are [meth] ice.

However, this is not really meth; it's alive. It is a fungus that keeps growing inside your body long after
you ingest it (by shooting or smoking) That's why addicts scratch and get open sores; it's the ice
forming new crystals in a person's skin. These are called "meth bites." (locally, "ice bites" - assonance
is important to addicts, too) On top of all that, it has a "half-life" of only a few days after removal from
the ground; within two weeks, it will be pharmacologically inert.

The problem is, this recipe is all a bunch of crap; even the DEA knows it. (at 11)

On a more basic level, you just can't get there chemically. Period. There is no organic compound in the
recipe, so you're not going to get anything remotely similar to the organic compound
methamphetamine. You need an organic compound like an amine - as in meth-amphet-amine.
Pseudoephedrine is an amine, and is used in both the red phosphorus/Hydrogen Iodide and
Lithium/anhydrous ammonia cooking methods.

The base (ammonium hydroxide) and any of the acids (from the bluing) will react, and form a salt,
which may form crystals, but it's not going to be chemically or pharmacologically anything like meth.

Another thing that had me skeptical was that none of my searches were getting hits on any of the drug
information clearing houses; Erowid, Rhodium (now defunct), or Lycaeum.

But Erowid eventually came through; the recipe is "complete bunk" - the idea was dreamed up in the
1970's by a guy named Scott French and published in a book, the "Complete Guide to the Street Drug
Game."

as explained by the erowid article's author,

As with the Net in general, there is a paucity of accurate information available on the
subject of illicit drugs. Even the fact of publication is not necessarily a guarantee of any
sort of technical legitimacy, particularly, though not limited to, "counter-culture" efforts.
 There are many reasons why people write books, but making money is one of the biggest.
When the subject is of an illegal nature, the likelihood of inadequate, incomplete, or
blatantly wrong information is even higher than usual.

Companies like Paladin, Delta Press, and Loompanics are typical purveyors of such trashy
misinformation under cover of the U.S. First Amendment. Ever seen the list of
"underground" books by Ragnar Benson & Duncan Long? How many things can these guys
be "expert" in? Not bloody likely. What's that maxim? If you can't do, teach.

I'm amazed that people will believe this crap; a living crystalline fungus that will continue to grow new
crystals underneath the skin, even after being smoked. (but see gout; crystalline, yes, but not organic,
not fungal, and not alive) I'm even more amazed that, armed with this erroneous but alarming
information, people still use the stuff!

Jack

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Tuesday, July 18, 2006

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569 comments:

Anonymous 5/02/2007 1:57 AM

I didn't really believe that you could just "look it up on the internet" and find out how to make this awful
stuff but I looked and there it was. I so appreciate your humor in the middle of a pretty depressing browse
around the net. Thanks
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Anonymous 6/07/2007 10:09 PM

Actually "For complete bunk", it gets you just as high if not higher than traditional meth made with
Sudaphed boiled in Coleman Fuel and processed through a range of acid and alkaline chemicals like HCL
and Vinegar, this so called "BUNK" method is simple and easy to make, gives off virtually no smell after
the bleach/amonia reaction occurs and is not combustable. As far as taking a month to make, try 4-7
days using Mrs. Stewarts Fabric Bluing in place of gun bluing and then simply "WASHING" your shards
with acetone that can be substituted with finger nail polish remover. If mixed properly in a quart pickle jar,
and washed thoroughly in acetone you will get about a 1 oz yield with a street value of about $800 -
$1000 for about $7 in supplies that you can buy at your local grocery store. "TWEAKERS", meth users
actually prefer this "BUNK DOPE" to traditional methamphetamine, at least in my personal experience,
living in a town with an 18% meth usage per capita. So I'll keep my "BUNK DOPE" Thanks.
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Gideon's Guardians 6/10/2007 3:24 PM

BUNK. Ms Stewart's is prussian blue, a/k/a ferric hexacyanoferrate, in a buffered solution. I.e., having
nothing whatsoever in common with gun bluing, not even it's ph. It's not going to get you to meth or
anything pharmacologically similar, either.

Jack
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Anonymous 6/11/2007 1:39 PM

You're right about sooome stuff here. But a crystalline FUNGUS!!??? HAHAHAHA! You're furthering a
junkie myth. There is no such thing. People believe in "meth bugs", pick at their skin, dig open sores, etc
because meth causes a psychotic reaction. You think you have crap "growing" in you because some fool
like the OP here put the idea into your head, your brain is frying, and you can't differentiate reality anymore
when you on the crap. The myth started when a number of "cooks" were staring at crystals forming and
were amazed at how lifelike they looked. They actually looked like a plant or fungus (yeast, specifically in
many cases). This does not mean, however, that it was correct. I can't beleive there are people who
spread this stuff like their some kind of "expert" on the matter.

Oh, and by the way, OP, you don't "need" an amine to CREATE an amine. I'm not sure you even understand
that concept so I'll spare you the chemsitry. Do the world a favor, though. Take a college level chemistry
class so you can tell the difference when someone tells you something for no reason other than that
they're crazy, or are trying to make an ass of you.
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Gideon's Guardians 6/15/2007 10:49 PM

Anon, you need a reading comprehension class worse than I need an Organic Chemistry class.

First, the idea of a crystalline fungus IS ridiculous; which is why I'm ridiculing it - it's as real as the Easter
Bunny. What I'm trying to spread is that this stuff is bogus.
Second, to make meth "you need an organic compound LIKE an amine" (emphasis added) If you don't use
an amine, you just need more steps. Heck, technically, you don't even need to start with an organic
compound, you can synthesize one. But again, that means more steps, and not ones you average meth
cook has the materials or knowhow to execute.

To simplify:

1)You can't get meth from charcoal, gun (or fabric) bluing and household ammonia.

2)There's no such thing as a crystalline fungus, or a living crystal.

3)If you ingest the results of number 1, whether or not you believe that number 2 is the result, you are a
desperate, stupid SOB.
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Anonymous 7/14/2007 10:05 PM

As I have said in a previous posting meth is not produced from this cooking or growing process but it
gets you high just the same. Tell the $2800 in my pocket that it doesn't that's what I just made for this
bunk crap. For about $14.00 in household chemicals. About the only other option for a cook is moving to
Canada or Mexico or using muriatic acid pe extraction on Vicks inhalers. This is an expansive process
that yields only a small amount of pure methamphetamine, 50mg per inhaler at about $2.00 per inhaler
when the yield is cut with MSN or B12 a profit is to be made although through much more hassle than the
previous process that is at hand. None of us are saying that it produces real meth by any means in the
first process, You're right, it does produce an illusion (Easter Bunny Dope) but it has been and remains to
be a believable illusion, that tweakers continue to enjoy, if it weren't for Clinton making real dope and not
poison would still be a fairly easy thing to do.
An as far as Ms. Stewarts turning your shit blue it does that's why man created acetone with which to
wash away the blue.
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Anonymous 7/18/2007 5:27 PM

this ms.stewarts way sounds interesting,if its true.how do you do it?
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Anonymous 7/20/2007 9:09 AM

what is the correct mixture for the quart jar? cant seem to get it just right
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Anonymous 7/21/2007 2:12 AM

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Anonymous 7/21/2007 2:20 AM

By the way, when mixing the bleach and amonia don't breath the fumes unless you want to die. So do your
mixing in an open well ventilated area and be careful not to splash it on yourself either. I have chemical
burns on my hands because I learned the hard way.
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Gideon's Guardians 7/26/2007 4:51 PM

Anonymous, I deleted your instructions for the following reasons:

1. This blog won't be party to correct or incorrect instructions on how to make meth. I'm OK with
explaining general processes from a crim law practice standpoint, but the only need to go into 'how-to'
detail is so chuckleheads can try to make it.

2. This applies to real meth recipies as well as bunk recipes. The effects of meth are well known; I don't
need more clients and I don't want more lives wasted.
The effects of mixing crap together in the hope it ends up crystalline (becasue if its crystalline, OF
COURSE it'll have the same effects as meth) are not well known, and "F-ing stupid" doesn't even begin to
encompass the irresponsibility of ingesting/injecting into your body some crystal you grew in that funky
cooler from last month's lake party.

3. I don't want any more people screwed up on drugs, and I don't want people screwed up on random
chemicals. If I wanted to kill off the weak, I'd write about the newest method for making meth: Put salt
crystals in your mouth, a rechargable battery (lithium) up your nose, and fire a shotgun shell at your face
(bismuth) which also provides the heat and pressure required for the reaction.

So anonymous, no more recipes, please. You might try erowid, but you know they'll call BS on you faster
than I can.

Jack
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Anonymous 8/04/2007 4:23 PM

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Anonymous 8/05/2007 1:08 AM

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Anonymous 8/29/2007 2:30 PM

As a former meth addict the differences between this "easter bunny" dope and the real deal with the other
2 methods not including p2p. is stagereing. the real shit would keep you up and you would not be laying
down tired after 10 minutes of tweaking. ice as it is called now, is probably as the writer of the other blogs
said is bunk
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Anonymous 9/27/2007 4:05 PM

What I'd like to know if the stuff called ICE that is reportedly made by growing crystals using charcoal - is
NOT meth or a real possibility -- then why is it that those who use it -- and only it -- test positive for meth
when UA'd?
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Anonymous 9/28/2007 2:57 PM

there is alot of people doing time for this easter bunny dope
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Anonymous 10/09/2007 5:30 PM

anyone who thinks bleach works with amonia to make even fake dope deserves to be poisoned by the
gasses released for your info bleach destroys the meth stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous 10/13/2007 3:12 PM

i dont think anyone is calling it meth...i would like to hear the pickle jar method with fabric bluing
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Anonymous 10/29/2007 1:24 AM

What the hell is wrong with you all? You are literally going to kill yourselves doing these horrible drugs.
How can you put something that disgusting and toxic in your body? This makes me sick.
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Anonymous 10/31/2007 12:00 PM

id love to hear how this is made in a pickle jar! It intrigues me as i used to be hooked on this "fake stuff"
and I know some people who make it, but wont tell anyone. I am wondering this because it seems you
actually need gun bluing that contains selenium! anyone who wishes to email me at
[email protected]. i am not asking for you to post a recipe or to make it, i am wondering what I
was really doing
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Anonymous 11/06/2007 2:27 PM

im not gonna tell u all the recipe but i can get 12 oz,s just using gun bluing water ammonia and tar. so
simple a 3 yr old could do it, and yes its real meth!!
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Anonymous 11/07/2007 6:01 PM

Okay don't tell them all, just tell me
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Anonymous 11/14/2007 6:20 PM

yea me too !!
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Anonymous 11/14/2007 9:10 PM

Okay somebody who really knows something e-mail me at [email protected]. I found some stuff on
the net and if anybody wants that info you can e-mail me too.
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Anonymous 11/15/2007 7:13 PM

this is just becoming wishful thinking at this point seems like...i cant find anyone who can give a tried an
d true method just alot of "i know a guy" or "once i saw this"..now people are talking about tar..lets see the
procedure if your so sure it works
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Anonymous 11/15/2007 10:43 PM

THE WIZERD

say htink bout it carbon tar,charcoal,coal.amonia,household liquid,red devel notliquid,fretelizer amonia

liquid higher contrate,break it down pure elements
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Anonymous 11/16/2007 1:46 PM

Okay guys go to www.zone86.com (view entries)and read the news story about the cops finding a set up
and not knowing what it was , so they sent it off to a lab and the chemist tells what it really is and what
people are getting high on.
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Anonymous 11/16/2007 2:24 PM

so its selenium crystals thats the final product...still want to see one of these recipies come to life
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Anonymous 11/25/2007 1:14 PM

ive been readin on this column for about 3 months without a comment my mind is made up ive tried it
and everything came out good and this is the "WHIP" it'll take you to the moon your first trip around
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Anonymous 11/26/2007 12:31 PM

tell us how you "whipped " it up then..until then your post has no merit
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Anonymous 11/28/2007 5:05 PM

Can someone please post the entire process with specific amounts and ingredients on www.Zone86.com
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Anonymous 12/03/2007 2:30 PM

STILL NOTHING EVEN CLOSE TO VALID!!! POST IT IF YA KNOW IT WORKS ON ZONE86.COM!!! TAR?
WHAT NOW TAR? I GIVE UP TRYING TO FIGURE THIS CRAP OUT!! IM GLAD I GUESS, NOW I CAN QUITE
WORRYING BOUT IT AND GET BACK TO OVERPAYIN FOR LOUSY CRAP HERE!
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Anonymous 1/01/2008 9:49 PM

It seems to me that there is alot of interest in this stuff, good or bad. So I found the recipe on
www.zone86.com. If anyone has tried this recipe leave a comment on zone 86. Did the recipe mentioned
there forget water or is it not needed for the crystal formation?? Just looking for some answers.
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Anonymous 1/03/2008 10:48 PM

Household ammonia is ammonia dissolved in water (ammonium hydroxide) and ranges from 5 to 10
percent ammonia content by weight. There's your water.

You guys are crazy...

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Anonymous 1/17/2008 2:07 PM

WOW, why would anyone like to put suck crap in their body? unless they have a frikken depressing life and
are really messed up.... but that not enough reason to do it. seriously, u have 1 life, dont waste it by
intoxicating urself with sick chemicals n shit
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Anonymous 1/17/2008 10:44 PM

I say do what you want unless by doing so you're taking away from the ones that are dependent on you.
What's the difference between fucking up you liver with alcohol? getting Cancer with cigarettes? or
getting high on ANY drug? If you can kill yourself with liquor and cigarettes, you have the same right to do
it with Meth or any other dope.
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Anonymous 1/17/2008 10:45 PM

I'm drug free though, I never saw the point.
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Anonymous 1/18/2008 9:52 PM

I was on meth for longer than I care to remember. I'd be willing to bet there isn't a sole intrested in this
shit that has ever lost anything very dear to them. Take my advise walk away now!!! NOTE: there isn't
anything other than salt in any recipe that is made for the body. Each ingrediant has a poison control # on
whatever package or container its in.
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Anonymous 1/18/2008 9:57 PM

Anonymous doesn't mean shit on the internet. Keywords alert the Gov. For example "meth", all of these
sites are monitored and checked up on.
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Anonymous 1/19/2008 4:03 PM

Loosing something dear to you from Meth is no diferent than loosing something dear to Alcohol. You
either control the addiction, whatever it may be, or you LET IT control you. All I'm saying is don't be stupid
and narrow minded and attack one drug, when in reality, ADDICTION is the real enemy. More people die
each year from alcohol than ALL illegal drugs combined. Look it up.
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Anonymous 1/20/2008 4:05 PM

WOW, When will I ever hear the end of this crap urban legend. It circulates in county jails or something.
Ive heard this method from about 5 different people and each one of em just heard from hear say... duh...
never tried it cause then they would stop acting like they know whats up. Seems like its always
accompanied with that yellow jacket spray method. Total crap newbies.If u dont know what your doing
and acting like u do, then dont.
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Anonymous 1/25/2008 10:14 PM

This is America...Where crap is king.
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Anonymous 2/11/2008 1:31 PM

he is full of it, but you need the least water as possible. for all you knowing minds. I won't tell you but i will
hint. How are ammonia and water alike? but how are they different. the diffence will make it possible to
separate them. Good luck. remember no light or sun or air for 30
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Anonymous 2/13/2008 5:39 PM

is everyone stupid this stuff destroys lives and breaks up homes so why dont you all just get a clue and
quit trying to look for new ways to make your life miserable, there are far to many more important things
to accomplish like say life so dont be a dope by doing dope please I know it has destroyed my life so yes I
do know what I am talking about and by far the high or euphoreia is not worth the long term effects. Such
as those to the body, to the mind , and to each and every life that it effects including those wich may
suffer due to the fact of someone else being a user ie children parents siblings any and all who care and
love you all wich are effected so take some friendly advice and if you dont do it dont start and if you do
the sooner you stop the better off you will be and so will everyone that is around you that cares for you
and thats all I have to say
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Anonymous 3/10/2008 9:04 AM

Here's the actual synthesis for making Glass. Using a 48-Qt Ice Chest, go out and buy 6 40oz BROWN
beer bottles. They have got to be brown. Make sure to wear latex gloves and empty out the bottles. You
don't want no oils or acids to get on these bottles from your fingers or anything. Wash the bottles in
denatured alcohol repeatedly. After washing and drying the bottles place them in the ice chest in 2 rows
of 3 bottles with each bottle being one shot glass apart from each other and the front and back of the ice
chest. Fill the ice chest with approx. 2.5 to 3 inches of activated charcoal. Take any type of handheld
vegatable sprayer and fill it with gun bluing. Spray it well over your charcoal but dont overspray it and dont
not spray your bottles.Next insert 4 shot glasses between your 6 bottles, 2 per row of 6 but only between
the bottles and not the ice chest itself. Fill the shot glasses 3 quarters of the way up with muratic acid.
Then add approx. one marble sized piece of aluminum foil to each shot glass. Close the lid on your ice
chest. Tape the ice chest closed for better results. Leave somewhere in total darkness for 21-30 days.
The end result is very nice shards grown all over your bottles. Discard any of the shards that are touching
the charcoal and gun bluing for they are not good. Other little tweaks can be done to this recipe. But this
how I learned it here as it is wrote.
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Anonymous 3/15/2008 3:08 AM

Ever heard of the Red, White, and Blue? No, not USA!!! Red (Phospherous), White (Lithium), and Blue
(Iodine). Quit wasting your time with this crap. Sure it gets you high but so does holding your breath for
too long. Find yourself a good cook/source and quit worrying 'bout how to make it!

Try your local Methicans I mean Mexicans, good product cheap price in bulk.
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Anonymous 3/24/2008 7:37 AM

METH IS BAD!!!!!!!!!!!MMMMMKKKKK
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Anonymous 4/11/2008 3:27 PM
I've been toying with making shit for about nine years now and i've never actually put together a 666
recipe. (Gun blue, ammonia, and charcoal) I have done two or three other ways but since they came down
on ephedrine and hypo it's been difficult to get all the ingredients. Anyway, I'm going to try the 666 method
weather it makes real live meth or not. I am curious so to find out for myself i gotta try it. A long time ago
a friend of mine put c, a and g-b into an ice chest and it DID grow something but it was VERY acidic. No
good. Well wish me luck.
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Anonymous 5/05/2008 9:14 AM

anonymous, you claim to be a former meth addict in one of your blogs, but it is hard to believe that a
FORMER addict could be producing the drug. I myself am a recovering addict and work in conjunction
with the crystal meth task force in stratford ontario. I can not watch videos of people smoking meth, let
alone make it! Yes, meth induced psychosis is the cause of the scratching though. the "ice bites" are
caused from heavy doses, not because it is growing in your skin.

Also, I am working on writing an article for a magazine, and came across a ton of meth recipes, which is
sickening!
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Anonymous 5/14/2008 10:46 PM

meth is bad i am reformed myself... well, working on it. i hate the shit, but of is in front of me ill hit that
shit. i seriously hate it. i know i fu@&s up your life and all nut why the hell is it so addicting, is it in ur mind
mostly? or is it physical??? anyone got any real advice to help me out? HELP!!!!
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Anonymous 5/19/2008 4:25 PM

i think that it's funny how all of you guys are fighting over how to make meth...you guys are fucking
retarded
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Anonymous 5/19/2008 8:09 PM

You know I have been around a long time. I am an old hippy and have had my fill of weed and wine but
this shit is just in sane. I have and HAD a few friends who have gotten into meth and a son who tried it.
From what I have seen I dont understand why people dont just do it the old way? Get a gun, put one bullet
in, go to a remote place and spin the cylender, pull back the hammer and wait to see if you make it or not.
My heart goes out to anyone who is addicted to this stuff but for God's sake dont folks get it? You dont
get shit out of your cleaning cabnet to get high on. I was really shocked to see so many who made a reply
to this blog and had used. Think, life is so damn short to start with. Why play with a loaded gun? Noone
could have a life that bad. Im not asking anyone to climb a mountain, Im just asking you to stop and think
before you play with your life.
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Anonymous 5/19/2008 8:50 PM

well said, hippy dude. my hat is off to you. you got a good point, and i think that people should listen to
you. man, you've been around the block a few times and you know your stuff.
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dankful.very.and i to would pray 4 karma ta bless u ,;im skild in the piss easy io water reflux option.but we
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Anonymous 6/24/2008 10:11 AM

Okay well check this out. i have done some research on this manner, and it does make sense. Does
anybody know what activated charcoal or fish coals are used for........ the answer is as a chemical filter.
and you do need something suspended like strings hanging above the substances. because as the
chemical reaction occurs between the gun bluing and and the ammonia which you have to freeze to get
the plastic compound out, because pure ammonia doesn't freeze, the activated charcoal filters this and
and in collects in the air buy the strings. of a known combination is 12oz of charcoal 12 oz of ammonia
and 6 oz of gun bluing. cut the lid off of a pop can to measure. place in a ice chest all three in separate
cups or bowls and duct tape the out side of the ice chest and bury it in the ground at approximately three
feet down thats the top because the ground that far down will hold a temp between 70 and 75. inside the
top of the container putt some cheese cloth and poke holes in it and string dental floss from it. in the 30
days you will have ice. wash with acetone 3-5 times. and then put it in a Pyrex dish with a a little water
and put it over a open flame rocking gently until it cracks back and scrape the crystals off with a razor
blade. this is done to help kill the bacteria you just made and it does only have a couple of weeks shelf
life
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Anonymous 6/27/2008 2:26 AM

never works either way for me.Not even with the eltrolice way.steel bowl pole in the middle possitive on
one end an negitive on the bowl. growing it with fish string never worked but lots of my prison freinds are
in for it doing 20 years.what is going wrong. even tried fertilizer instead of charcoal a alleadged sons of
silence recipie.more prison lies I guess.Im not going to try to make it for Ill go back.I am interested in
nowing the rite way from some one who is actullay done it [email protected] this is a freinds
mail site I cant check it out since I have no computer
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Anonymous 7/15/2008 7:59 AM

you know simple ways to make Methamphetamine really do exist online but you gotta be careful of where
you look and who you listen to. alot of lies out there and just plain ignorance or hate for tweekers which
doesnt help anyone. I put together the best info I can to help kill the lies. A lot of you guys are just
spouting stupid stuff to be honest. Experience means a lot more than cut/paste
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Anonymous 7/15/2008 7:15 PM

does anyone know the exact name of the chemical/crystal/fungus or whatever the hell this method
produces. i'm just very curious to know what it really makes and what type of bacteria is in with it
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Anonymous 7/18/2008 3:09 AM

you all are crazy, i have a friend who found some chemicals in their kids room.she said that she thought
he was on something,come to find out it will probably this stuff you all have been talking about,get a life
and stay away from it!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous 7/24/2008 9:41 PM

let me tell you guys something i was a mastercook and buyer wholesaler for a long time made alot of
money until i was set up twice by friends i took under my wing and taught the ever changin art of meth
cooking there is ways around everything i will give you a few tips 1. a true cook will not teach the entire
method unless you have known them from birth basically cause they know that the closest one to there
vast knowledge will be the one to fold them up like what happened to me 2. there are different varietys of
this fish tank method the easyiest you were probably tought in elementry school you made rock candy if
you did but that way has a time frame for potency and there are other methods of it like adding isomers if
you are not familiar with chemistry that is what is added to an amphetamine to make MDMA metholine
dioxy meth amphetamine make the tank method into a more sexual arousel drug but that recipe is not the
best in my opinion and the opinionof the old schools i learned from the phosphorus is the best way but
everyone keeps say they cracjed down on the pills like i said there is a way around everything i will give a
hint and that is all i am out of the business and plan to stay that way the way that epherderine is made is
a fermintation process using brewers yeast and another item yes just like beer and hops or barley so i
leave you with this if you are not familiar with chemistry terms and molecule structure invest in a mexican
for good shit at cheap price and leave the cookin to the chemist
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Anonymous 8/09/2008 6:26 AM

What you said is I thought of .Here is some of new battery fpr your laptop.
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Anonymous 9/13/2008 12:51 AM

if some one could help me out and send a recipe to cook the shit pls... [email protected]
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Anonymous 9/18/2008 10:51 PM

Wow. Its pathetic reading comments about worthless piece of shit tweakers arguing about their poison.
Fuck all you tweakers.
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Anonymous 10/09/2008 12:14 PM

You people think you're chemists? If you knew something about anything, organic chemistry is the study
of the element carbon. Which all drugs are made from.

The carbon comes from charcoal. The string dope is indeed made by placing charcoal in a fish tank,
adding equal amounts of ammonia hydroxide which are where the crystals come from forming the
crystaline substance. Gunblue is the is the reducing chemical combining with carbon and changing and
adding molecules.

You suspend guitar strings above the liquid and in 30-days it precipitates up the strings and that is Ice.
Yes chemically different than standard meth but it is an amphetamine, & vaporized better than meth when
smoked.
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Anonymous 10/21/2008 7:23 PM

Just curious what I put in my body 12 yrs ago. What a nightmare! So glad to be clean!
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Anonymous 1/01/2009 1:03 PM

I just spent near 10 years in prison for manufacturing meth, and so Ill give you all the real dal on how to
make meth....

If you really want to make meth your a fucking idiot and should either get into treatment or kill
yourself...meth is for weak people, be above it dude, go get a fucking job.
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Anonymous 1/07/2009 11:38 AM

what the fuck are you doing on a meth site then you fucking prick
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Anonymous 1/11/2009 6:01 AM

1.Gun Blue #9 === 2."Household ammonia" or "ammonium hydroxide" === 3.Natural charcoal it is 100%
real charcoal.

I don't know where they got calling it activated charcoal blah, anyways the cheese cloth across the top of
cooler with pieces of dental floss hanging halfway down worked out twice as better then the glass jar
ordeal

I know a guy that knows a guy that is kin to this dude that has a sister with a boyfriend that does this at
least 4-6 times a year.
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Anonymous 1/18/2009 7:36 AM

FINDING ALL OF THE RIGHT INGREDIENTS NOW DAYS IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. EVERYTHING HAS AN
ORIGINAL ORIGIN BASED IN THE ANNULS OF ALCHEMY. THE BEST RESULTS CAME FROM USING 1 GAL
P2P 2 GAL METHYLAMINE 60/40 6 GS MURCURIC CHLORIDE 2 GAL. METHONAL AND ONE POUND OF
FINELY CHOPPED REYNOLDS WRAP. THIS IS QUICKLY PLACED IN A PRESSURE COOKER AND LEFT
ALONE UNTIL PRESSURE GAUGE IS BACK TO ZERO AND POT IS COLD. ADD 2 MORE GAL. METHANOL.
POUR SOLUTION INTO SEP. FUNNEL, TAP OFF SILVER SLUDGE AND DISCARD. GAS WITH HYDROGEN
CHLORIDE GAS AND R-11 FREON IN GASSING CYLINDER. PLACE CRYSTALS IN VACUUM FILTER FUNNEL
AND PLACE ON TOP OF A JUG ADD VACUUM AND WASH WITH ETHER THIS IS FINISHED. NOW THE
HARD PART IS WHERE DO YOU GET THE CHEMICALS WITHOUT DRAWING ATTENTION TO YOURSELF.
THIS IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE BUT A LITTLE RESEARCH IS NECESSARY TO AQCUIRE THE ALCHEMICAL
ORIGINS OF EACH OF THE NEEDED INGREDIENTS. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER BUT DON'T GET COCKY.
MAKING METH IS ILLEGAL, DANGEROUS, AND SHOULD BE TREATED EXTREME CAUTION. PROPER
EQUIPMENT SHOULD ALWAYS BE USED. ALSO DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT DO THE RESEARCH.
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Anonymous 1/23/2009 10:06 PM

What is this "crystalline fungus" called?

I know of an idiot who recited this exact recipe and method, with the introduction of a car battery to
speed up the process.

Thanks to your site (true or not) I was able to scare them out of the attempt. Whewww!
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Anonymous 1/26/2009 3:05 AM

Straight away people, if you have reading comprehension skills, a 7th grade education that lightly
contains Biology, Zoology, Horticulture, and VERY basic science, you DO understand that designer drugs
are NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE right?

Well, except for you fucktard tweaker burnouts, you people still think wine made with white bread and
kool-aid is "teh shit". The only thing "teh shit" there is what is left of your brain.

For one, Users need to shut the hell up, you are burnt out, no need for you to fuckup a bunch of recipes
(and people) because you are too damned stupid to understand the difference between Meth and Ice,
Saprophytes, naturally occuring Hydroxy/Hydroxil's and Induced Anerobic Hypoxia versus Gassing with
Hydrochlorides.

And I won't even touch on basic Anerobic Digestions, and the parallels between spore fungus (sapro's)
and dual-phase aenorobic Methane production.

For the REAL cooks out here, run those grills gents, after all, you know THESE morons won't ever get there
without YOU.

"You never Design and Create, then use your product. The point of this bidness is Money, not Stupidity.
Leave that to the Users, not the Makers."

By the way, I guess most of you dipshits couldn't even possibly understand that every single one of the
"most needed" chemical constituents are NATURALLY occuring?

If you boneheads took the 1 hour to look into anything natural, and stay the fuck away from retards who
call themselves "chemists", you would understand that you CAN get there from here, but with added
natural resources, and simple reduction methods.

Good thing OP: I took note that Peyote was Magical at one time, like Easter Bunny, and so was- Every
single drug within the last 100 years. UNTIL it hit the streets. I also noted that for a Magical Chemical,
there seems to be a helluva lot of people in Pokey-Land for this shit, that is "illusionary".
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Anonymous 2/24/2009 2:10 AM

i love to make chaos out of order

i take your sons souls and i rape your daughters

no human beings are immune

i'll dance to anybody's tune

heaven and hell are in awe of me

i'm evil walking

i live to bring you nights of terror i'm evil stalking

i'm the one who wakes you screaming

positive that you weren't just dreaming

you run to their rooms your heart is racing

all your light and goodness i'm defacing

i only take what you love the most

leaving you only destruction and death

sucking away their lifeblood so slow-i smile

and i laugh as i hear you cry awhile

cuz whether or not they die now they're dying

but before they are dead and in my grasp

they'll do it again this has not passed

see "Jones" is a man they think a friend

he will ride by their side till the very end

just one more fix, just one more hit, just one more time and they swear they'll quit

but they don't seem to understand, i'm not a ghost, a god, a man

i'm just a thing with no smell or taste,

i'm a sightless, soundless path to waste

you should know it's me cuz it's sure not them

the reason that they load a pipe or prick their skin

smoke it, snort it, draw it back--and BAM!

i don't even let them give a damn

i'm not to blame if they down some upper

i don't care if they eat drugs for supper

i have no conscious,i have no soul

and the fools believe i make them whole

once i get them firmly sided with me

it's a lifelong union HISTORY!

and my mission in their lives you'll find

is to never give them peace or any piece of mind

or ability to deal with daily strife

my names ADDICTION

i'm theirs for LIFE

i can justify, i can minimize

keep 'em in denial, keep 'em glorifying

which helps me keep them from the fact they're dying

i'm the slowest form of suicide

i make them bleed just to feel alive

and all the while the disease i am

keeps them numb or in pain thus knows no end

N.A. may arrest me but i'll never die

COPS may arrest them but they'll still get high

it takes rock bottom, a deep pit, a hole

to make them see how much i stole

to make them want to grab ahold of life

to end the lies self hate and strife

oh sure i'll still be around

but by a Higher power i can be bound

it starts with their admission of truth

followed by group support and love

and being willing to let go and let God

gives me less power than a clump of sod

and as their minds begin to clear

their pain will not be cause for fear

but joy at even feeling anything

joy only One higher than me can bring

sure i'll lose a few to Him

but there are still so many others

fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles,grandparents, cousins, children, sisters, brothers

they too can fall prey to me

in the same old way

trying to numb some pain they feel

they lose sight of me but i remain very real

all you have to do to give me control

is use drugs, even one time

and i'll latch onto your very soul

as i eat away at your very mind

and you'll live for me

while i'm killing you

i HOPE YOUR ROCK BOTTOM

ISN'T AT

SIX FEET!!!

9-15-1998

BY GENA SHADE

And no unlike most of you I am proud of who I am today. 22 years ago I met a cook from Cali in the
middle of missoui. I subsequently lost my family, children, and everything I owned several times over. two
years ago I was arrested and since have gotten it right. Right with God my own personal Savior. The more
I am faithful to Him by sharing my testimony the more of my True Life He restores. So this is me sharing
what worked for me. My family has been restored to me, my mother and sis and bro and one of my two
children. The other of my two boys is turning 21 this year and I havn't got to see him since he was 3 1/2
yrs old.
God is the true recipe for success in life and the Bible is your instruction manual. The ingredients are
faith, love, truth, hope, belief, and TRUST in something greater than you. I love each and every one of you
and I pray that you find a light in the darkness that you can go toward and that you are not dead when you
do. Contact me if you want and I will tell you more about the strength that will set you all free..

[email protected]

I am not afraid anymore...I want you to know that there is life after meth.
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Anonymous 3/17/2009 1:48 PM

I don't even know how I came across this one. I would only be guessing that most individuals on this sight
are men in their teens and early twenties. Why? Basically the language used, how used, and the maturity
level type text read in the comments. Some of your lives are basically not very important to you. But, this
is not for the one writing this statement to judge. I will comment that it is frightening that so many
individuals spend so much time trying to make a drug that is so harmful. You guys keep asking questions
on recipes and the recipe is right in front of you all over the page. Once again a level of maturity and very
weak education is the opinion. I hope you all researched so well in school or you daily put such effort into
your family relationships, or maybe a father or mother yourself. I won't preach, but Jesus. He deserves it.
The educational level on this site is why you all should not mess with trying to become chemists. Maybe
you all need to get through math with a decent grade and further progress to basic chemistry, prior to
making such a toxic drug. It you have to have straight meth, I would think Desoxyn would be a better
method. Of couse, I am ADHD and Desoxyn desoxyephedrine) is the pharmaceutical form of
methamphetamine & corn starch.I don't preach to you all about not getting high or wondering why you all
want to get high, heck we all need some energy. But, to put in your bodies the chemicals that street meth
uses is crazy and yes at times and some of the times become longer than others,we each are crazy. Just
get smarter on how and why you do what you are doing.

I feel, If the person starting this blog was so concerned with wanting people off meth, I would almost
100% be correct that he or she would not be posting any type of recipe on his/her site or allow individuals
to comment this type of receipe haven. And let me add the use of a type of published Bible is even further
distubing.

Oh and on the subject of fungus...

When you have any solution or food or whatever it may be and you conceal or trap it to an area, with heat
and these items produce heat-then humidity or basic water molecules will form and heat creates bacteria,
thus something will grow. The mere fact that the oxygen had bacteria will create a fungus when the
humidity is created. Humidity of mere hot and cold coming togehter to create a percipitation and there in
time.. fungus. So you close in vapor forming chemicals and oxygen once present- now absent of further
but what was left hanging, come on use your common so called think you have it street smart sense. So
you put it in the dark and make sure the light doesnt take away you water and let the chemicals create the
vapor. HMMM. Bleach may kill what it touches, but will its vapor kill all above it. OF course not within the
mixture if bleach or amonia is present, but the humidity it creates will grow a fungus, bacteria or whatever
descide to grow out of it. This is why they say drop strings to grab what forms. Now what you get is a test
and the brave I guess will test this. Has anyone ever bought a Crystal Growing Kits when they were young.
These crystals grow all over the place. The point is these crystals are not going to grow in the bleach or
amonia, but they will above from what is created below. NO this is not a recipe and No I would not give
this and not my point. My point is common sense is not used here with any comment seen.

You can believe what you want and hope that not anyone gets hurts from all your experiments. Leave this
for the chemists. Your trying to make a quick buck or save some money. Just dont use and you will save
and a quick buck does not and is not a proven method that lasts. If this did works, then all you guys
would not still be trying to find how to make the first quick buck.

My father grew meth on strings. I went to check on him one evening, because of these so called illusions
or recipes this blogger says does not get you high. He had a prominant business and turned it into a meth
growing facility in his warehouse. He took my family and I to eat for my birthdayone evening. I found he
moved out, built himself an apt at his work above his warehouse. Later found the apt was pretty nice and
was pretty secure with his surv. cameras and speacial locks. He even had a gun and his illusions brought
him to think of using it later after our nice birthday dinner; which he was high at and after he made it 2
hours late. I received a call a few hours after diiner. My stepmother asking me to go check on my father. I
walked into a warehouse of fish aquariums 250 galllon ones. 15 rows deep and 24 across wrapped in
duck tape and large ropes dropped. I didnt know about the ropes or what was in these till later. When I
entered his office, he didnt appear to be there. His desk full of drugs, I betan knocking item on the floor.
His surv on and he walked out of the bathroom to stop me. Pulling me down, only to make me stop
destroying the place. Trying to get free, I shoved what I had in my hand into my bag and acutally was only
trying to brace myself. I would never call the police, but his life was more important with a gun present.
Things did not turn out as planned. I have not seen my father in 5 years. He got away. I was arrested later
at my home for posession. I got away from his place. I arrive home around 10:00pm, crying. Garage door
opener battery must have died and I began to dial phone to have my husband open the door, and never
pushed send. Crying, I leaned head back, fell asleep with my car running. I rolled into my garage and my
spouse was asleep. He woke later to the sound of my suburban hitting the garage but thought just a
noice and maybe I was working upstair in office. I got home again around 10:00pm and @ 5:34am, I woke
to a fire engine light and a gun in my face. They were yelling, cops everywhere, and asking if I lived there.
Well of course; they knew I did, they were yelling my name. They had already been in my car when I was
alseep. They said someone said they thought I was dead. Really? Then why is the fire truck across the
road, no ambulance and four cop cars with a gun in my face? They wouldnt wake my husband, but some
dead person rolled into a persons home and they are not going to notify the residents. I never looked to
see what stuffed in my bag. I thought was cocaine. When they grabbed bag, I told them, oh that stuff I
grabbed is in that bag of my dads. But my dad got away and I went to jail. My father was growing this so
called dope that does not get you high. They broke it down like this ...7000 ounces. He got away with half
and tried to charge me with the half.But, $100,000 and 7 attorneys and 51 people for me in courts, did not
help. Estimate of 12 arrests later, I received 4 years TDCJ and all due to them not believing, but what they
created; since I tested positive for Desoxyn which the metabolytes are the same when testing meth. It is
meth-I must have something to do with this dope. Taken the drug since 9 and I am 40. Never abused, 18
years marriage, and two beautiful daughters and A students. I had a $300,000/yr annual income and all
destroyed and I do not use. This drug destroys lives and everything it touches. If you get caught, you may
get probation. I will say, there is not anyone who fights as hard as I do. I don't give up and I don't lose. I did
and so did my children and my entire family. We lost everything we developed and secured in 18 years. I
still today do not know where my father is. A few two line letters here and there. He does not even know
his daughter is a convict and I take meth legally. It will happen at one point. Hopefully, not as my life did.
But, you will lose and it will be you or someone you touch. WIse up out there. It's not worth it. Your selfish.
It's not you your hurting, its the ones you touch. You don't have a right to hurt others by your getting high.
Suicide is selfish. Your fine. It's the ones you leave behind.

And NO I didn't proof read or check grammar or puncuation. Deal with it. Have a better day!!!!!
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Anonymous 3/17/2009 1:57 PM

I will add to my comment in discussion of my father. When you ask the lord why he didnt stop you and
where was he when you were doing all this. You may hear that he gives you a choice and he was with you.
He was with you and standing at the same place he was when his son was being murdered for your sins.
ALways by your side. He does not choose for you. You have to do this and the only one who can make
your choice. This can be your heaven or this can be your hell. Karma is a bitch and the law of attraction
does not having feelings, or care what the choice is. You are not in control and when you learn this, you
will learn to love yourself and what was given to you in the beginning. LIFE Get it back, before you lose it.
It's only a moment away to keep or lose. And that is the only control you have right now. YOUR CHOICE-
Soon it will not be yours. I KNOW. EVEN though I was not using, I had a choice and I chose to handle the
wrong way. I did not save my dad, and he did not destroy my family. I did with my choice. AND HE still
walks his chosen path, I assume.
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Anonymous 3/19/2009 8:38 PM

Is this blog still active?
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Anonymous 3/30/2009 9:03 PM

I have personaly made the shit. not to sell or try. can tell you it aint a fungus. but did LOOK like what i
bought. Even still dont think it was smart. I'm no chemist and doubt that was the same. Bunk? aint gonna
find out.
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Anonymous 4/21/2009 11:02 PM

Im looking for the guy that had his post removed,the guy that posted first on 6/07/2007 at 10:09 pm. in
my opinion it was not cool to run a site where this is the topic and then remove this guys post. What is
this Russia? You dont like what someone says so you sensor it. For educational purposes I would have
liked to see if this guys recipe actually created anything. Anyway, if this guy is still here, hit me up at
[email protected]. You all be safe
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Anonymous 6/01/2009 4:04 PM

Hi,i am chemist from Czech Republik.methamfetamine he stems from CR.Here is best meth recipe:

• 1)Tablety z efedrinem opláchneme studenou vodou od žluté barvy.Opláchnuté tablety vložíme do pet
lahve a vlažnou vodou razpustíme.Zalijeme 1/3 obs.toulenem a nasipeme hydroxid sodný.

• Láhev zavýčkujeme a pomalu začneme třepat dokud nevznikne teplota cca. 60°C.Po pěti minutách
třepání necháme odstát do schladnutí.Je li to uděláno dobře tak na vrchu se oběví toulen.Ten odtáhneme
a přes filtraci nalijeme do čisté pet lahve.Jako filtraci je nejlepší použít kávové filtry popř. vatu

• 2)Do toulenu dáme cca 50 kapek kyseliny solné tak aby byl rostok mírně kyselí musíme měřit PH a cca
50ml vody.5 minut třepem,minutu necháme odstát a pak odtáhneme vodu z kyselinou solnou,dáme na tál
a odpaříme po odpaření bude na tále pseudoefedrin.

• 3)Jod,efedrin,kis.fosforečnou,fosfor, v poměru 0.9:1:1.8:0.4 dáme do baňky

• 4)Vaříme při teplotě127.5- 132°C 40 minut.Do reakce nedáme jod hned ale rozdělíme na 10 tzv.vhuzů
které vhazujem každé dvě minuty

Nejlepší nájezd se udělá tak že se v malé teplotě (118 cca) hodí tolik jódu aby
Teplota sama stoupla na 132°c max.

5)Poreakční směs pečlivě přefiltrujeme a naložíme s ní jako z tabletama viz bod 1.

6)Zásady:Kyselina ORTHO-FOSFOREČNÁ musí být co nejvíc koncentrovaná,fosfor červený

amorfní vysušit,používat PH papírky a teploměr.Good luck

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Anonymous 6/15/2009 11:24 AM

GODDAMN I'm high as a mutha fucka now! Good work soldiers!! haha, thats a hit! dead on!
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Anonymous 6/15/2009 11:29 AM

So easy a cave man can do it, right?
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Anonymous 6/16/2009 11:05 AM

The only problem is that i cant read the language in the recipe, how about telling us in english!
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Anonymous 6/24/2009 12:28 AM

Prohibition is the problem. www.leap.cc Education is the key, there's always hope.
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Anonymous 7/13/2009 2:17 AM

i can post the pickle jar method...

i can also post how to make your own anti hydrous.. but, should i? i bet if i did the feds would be at my
door tomorrow mourning.. Will i get in trouble for posting it? as long as you dont try to make it yourself.
curiosity purposes only. i don't do it either. i will post it as long as i don't get in trouble.. and the only
reason i would post it, so society and the public knows what they are putting in their system.. stay away
from meth, get a real job.. and mentally ill people meth is not the real fix. As GOD says: "Do not take
things that alter the mind." meth will defile you and your whole family.. In the end you will have nothing
left.. Anything you ever worked for including your wife will disperse. Thou shall not kill.. well, for those evil
people who are still stuck on stupid makin this shit, you are killing people, you are taking someone's life..
The cook and the runner have as much free will as the buyer.. So quit.. you know right from wrong..
Besides what scientist say there is a god and he will deal with you in the end.. but, like i said if you want to
know for informational purposes such as writing a book.. hit me up and i'll post whatever you seek..
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Anonymous 7/16/2009 10:31 AM

i would liketo know the pickle jar method...not trying to make it...just very interested...i did a report on the
myths of meth manufacture in school and that is the one thing i could not get solid evidence on...wether
or not the ammonia, bluing, charcoal method was in fact a myth or not...and i have done a ton of research
and still nothing...some people say yes and some people say no...but i would like some truth...i am not a
meth user and have never even seen then stuff...i do not do any type of drugs either...just food for thought
i guess...but please if you could enlighten me on the REAL pickle jar method....if it even exsist! if you dont
want to post it you can email it to [email protected], thanks xoxo
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Anonymous 7/23/2009 12:13 PM

anonomus: you all need to stop all this shit its serious, you might think your just makin some extra money
for your pocket, but really you are destroying lives by the thousands each day! My sister was 17 when she
started this shit and now she is 21 and all fucked up still and she hasent done it for a year. *STOP THE
TRAFFICING YOU ARE RUINING PEOPLES LIVES* AND IF I EVER FIND THE FUCKING JUNKIE THAT
SUPPLIED MY SISTER WITH THIS DEATH DRUG IM GONNA FUCK HIS WHOLE WORLD UP! FROM:
(LOVING BROTHER)
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Anonymous 7/28/2009 5:19 PM

Id Like to know the pickle jar method. Im not going to make it I lost a brother to meth.Id like to know
exactly what killed him [email protected]
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Anonymous 8/23/2009 2:13 AM

I'm not sure that I've ever read so many post from so many morons. Between the hover moms, the
addicts, and the nutty professors, anyone has to ask themselves, what is the point of reading this crap
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Anonymous 9/13/2009 9:06 AM
I am so sorry that all u methheads have no value to your lives. Go to an intensive care unit where there are
people there fighting for their lives due to injury or illness people who if given a choice would love to be
aware of the sweetness of life . You are wasting a life yours and the people who love u! It's so SAD! Find a
way out of this darkness before it's too late eternity is really forever.
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Anonymous 9/15/2009 4:40 PM

anyone know the real string recipe email me at [email protected] i have soom very valuable
recipes you might want in return
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Anonymous 9/25/2009 10:39 PM

fuck life
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Anonymous 9/25/2009 10:42 PM

im glad i dont do the shit any more but i still think about it every day and it makes me sick that i cant get
the thought of this shit off my mind
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Anonymous 9/25/2009 10:49 PM

kill your selves every body . fuck life you all deserve to die you wasted your time reading all this shit your
gay ha ha ha same goes to me i guess fuck yall....... laters
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Anonymous 10/05/2009 12:56 AM

ive been using meth since i was 16 and iam 57 today and i am just fine so dont lie to these people meth is
a great drug. it makes u feel like a champ and u can fuck for hours and days with this shit iam going to
snort a line for ever body on this web site right now please ever body dont say u dont like it till u tried it
thats all ive got to say for now... PS. rehab is for quiters my mom and dad said dont ever be a quiter so
iam not yall do the same...
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Anonymous 10/09/2009 12:48 PM

when making easter bunny meth can you use any kind of gun bluing or do you have to use a specific
type?
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Anonymous 10/12/2009 2:41 PM

5 gallon bucket...

3 1/2 to 4 inches of crushed/powdered charcoal with the lighter fluid in it already.

Mop head to put through the lid for the crystals to form on. Super Blue Gun blue. Pure Ammonia. Lots of
duct tape. Thick gloves. Put your gun blue on your strings that go through the lid. Anywhere there is gun
blue the crystals will form. Put the ammonia in your crushed charcoal. And stick all of the strings through
the lid. Just make sure they aren't touching. Bury that bucket in the ground far enough to where animals
can't easily dig it up. (IT SMELLS LIKE DEATH) Then wait 29-30 days. It forms Selenium dioxide crystals.
It's just like making sugar crystals in the fifth grade. ;)
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Anonymous 10/17/2009 4:44 AM

had my five yers on it,worked all day tended my crop at night never wanted to sleep.seen it ruin so many
lives its not funny.starts out as the two week itch year or two later couldent even get out of bed with out a
hit on the bowl aline up my nose n some in my coffie and i still didnt care untill i upset the wrong person
gave me a two pak mix one person giv me something they said was e did nothing they made a fuss next
day someone gave me a go on their bowl insisted cause allready had my own shit anyway game over
mixed togther nearly burnt me out anyone ever had their brain stinging 4 hours then awake 7 days on one
hit?beware the hotshot!it aint pretty lets say i havent touched the bowl since.it was great feeling like crap
4 2 years n still aint feeling that great 5 years later.good luck boys dont fry yourselfs.mel
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Anonymous 10/26/2009 3:05 AM

ok if anyone has done this how many grams is this one method suppose to bring off of 1 batch?
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Anonymous 10/27/2009 12:37 PM

ok you ever thinks they should live their life doing this drug is crazy. i rather live than die... but ok people
are just not getting it. stupid
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Anonymous 11/12/2009 4:39 PM

Wow. This is amazing. There is a lot of verifiable info here. Good thing there is always a balance. It can be
verified from any standpoint. The ones who like it. And the ones who quit. Bottom line..... If you let it use
you its probably not the best decision. Hell, between yall and I. I get pissed when the ol' lady eats a double
quarter pounder. She gets pissed if I mess around with that sellenium sh!t. It's the only thing they have
around nowadays. Isn't that what they put in dandruff shampoo? But like I said, there is always a balance.
I was introduced to all this sh!t when I was a child. Good thing for parents. Or parent. I finally did it for the
first time when I was 16. REI..... amazing!!!! Post P2P. The only one that I didn't try. I don't know if I'm
gettin old now or what(32). But messin around with that new sh!t is a big waste of time. I guess unless
you get a fresh one. Dumbasses make too much at once and can't get rid of it fast enough. Yes.... That
goes for the Methicans too. Speed goes in moderation. A friend of mine hooked it up one time with one of
the recipes above. Same ingredients different prep. I had a 5yr hiatus in the huskow. But he had
everything he needed. Supposedly tried and true. He pulled it out and it was salt. PLain and simple. I
know the method works because he wasn't the only friend I had. It just goes to show you never know
what you're gonna get. When the older stuff was around, you knew what you were gonna get. You knew if
the Ph was off. Especially if you liked to go up the nose with it. Yeah, the old school knows what I'm talkin
about. May as well make a sandwich with it. Peanut butter and chili. Sh!t, my ol' lady gets these pills from
the doctor that she takes with her double quarter pounder and that gets you going better than the stuff
nowadays. Curious? (Phentermine) A lot cleaner too! She hides em' now. I know this glass sh!t works, but
it's kind that one guy at work. You gotta keep him around because there just isn't anyone better.......Right
Now... Too many hoops to jump through. I had to put some input in here because this blog piqued my
interest. I've only done drugs a few times in my life. Once for ten yrs, once for 3 yrs, and now. I've been in
recovery but I always go back to discovery. If you guys are comin here for the recipe. You have a long
ways to go. Most of you guys reading this can still take a chemistry class in high school. But if you want
to mess around the truth is here. Be careful, and remember....safety first. Especially if there are kids and
family involved. Wipe your ass with your own hand. Thanks for listening.

Oh... came up with this on my guitar the other day. "Back with myself, just me and my friend. gave me new
meaning of Honesty, burn from both ends. Thanks
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Anonymous 11/16/2009 6:44 PM

i did 10 years behind cooking speed.not using.what happened to the good ol red-p iodine ephedrine
reduction?you junkie tweekers would try to pimp your toothless wives out to me for 1/2 a 1/4. if youre
going to risk prison behind dope, why not make something thats quality instead of trash. and
massproduce. anybody whos half assed connected with some mexicans can get ephedrine thats lab
grade. or has the gunbluing rotted your brain? quit the bullshit before you end up shot by someone whos
forgot more about speed then any of you posers will ever know!!!
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Anonymous 11/22/2009 12:29 PM

Hey whats up dope cooks, ive heard of a quite interesting method for making sumthing like meth i
suppose but never tried it, starts off by getting a brand new radiator for a car and some cans of raid
(roach poison) and spraying it all over the top of it and not sure how long your supposed to wait but
crystals should form all over the other side of the radiator, as u can see this is y ive never tried this
method, just wanted to know if anyone has heard of or tried this method, i also know of some other ones
that are a secret that also involves mixing shit together to form shit crystals but i wont go into those now,
please reply if u guys know anything bout this trippy ass radiator and can of raid recipe (prob expensive
too).
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Anonymous 12/24/2009 4:55 AM

I have now read a great deal of information, fact or faulty, from all who posted here and I just want to add
something. I have a very clear picture of the "right technique" for this Dark Dope Crystal Recipe and for no
other reason than my own insatiable curiousity, am gonna bury my time capsule. For those people who
are critical of this blog or what is said here...knowledge is power and it is more valuable that knowledge
be available for all who seek it than it is to protect the welfare of a few lucky gene pool rejects.
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Anonymous 12/28/2009 1:04 PM

im all the way at the bottom i hope you didnt read all that garbage my question is is it illegal now to grow
crystals i remember growing them in the fifth grade on charcoal its just a science experment i doubt this
is illegal just a little miss leading can some one give me a strait awnser [email protected]
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Anonymous 12/28/2009 11:11 PM
this entire method of using traditional gun bluing, carbon, and ammonia is false. you don't get anything
solid that wasn't previously there and you definitely won't get crystals using this technique.

don't waste your time.

there is a combination of ammonium nitrate and lye that is referred to as gun bluing. this so called gun
bluing consisting of ammonium nitrate and lye can be used in the production of methamphetamines
using what is referenced as the birch reduction method #2. perhaps this is where this myth of using gun
bluing to grow crystals spawned from???

birch reduction method #2 is very appealing because it makes meth in nearly 2 hours or less. since this is
possibly the quickest production method perhaps some dumbass got confused and when creating this
myth of growing crystals they concocted a story where the exact opposite takes place and you end up
with the longest method of producing meth.

i can see it now some guy locked up for cooking flash dope via birch #2 gets clever and makes a joke
about how fast this production method is and how much longer other methods are (iodine/red
phosphorus, or birch #1) and possibly exaggerated the length of the process by saying something like "it
seems like other methods take an entire month to create crystal". then some idiot by stander over heard
the end of this extremely exaggerated hypothetical joke and thought he was learning how to cook meth.
then he spread a false rumor of growing crystals using gun bluing over a month’s time while boasting that
he knew how to cook meth. people are crazy. i’m tweeking my balls off right now.
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Anonymous 1/04/2010 11:23 AM

I say let the mother******* make it. Maybe they will kill there selfs and we won't have to feed theme in
prison.
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Anonymous 1/05/2010 11:19 PM

hoppes#9 lig/nit coal coleman lye/caustic soda d-H20 and oh yeah ammonia,tin foil fish tank ten gal is
best but builds most pressure.2 lbs coal to 1 cup bluing to half cup ammonia spread evenly u idiots
through out the coal caustic soda and d-h20 must be equal parts(you can use lye and rock salt also)half
cup each and watch this shit... put on top of mixture it will begin to smoke so hurry with that foil already.
seal the tank with plastic wrap cool dry place 16-24 days and that shit on top of the foil whatever it is will
be the shit.Take all the clear shards wash in actone 2-4 times and i bet you either dont learn much
besides go go go or rolll roll roll the dice.....all this shit is decent but the clear is the best wash it alll...
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Anonymous 1/06/2010 12:32 AM

I have to say I am quiet impressed at the technical and professional knowledge verbalized by you people.
I would love to know the amount of man hours that has been exhausted in perfecting this rendition of
meth. In fact if all of you would articulate at a given meeting place for a good round table meeting, I feel
certain we may be on the way to finding a cure for the long term illness that this drug is going to cause.
I've been using drugs nearly my entire adult life but I have to say this does not sound like a fun drug or at
least one that I plan to stay clear of. If gun blue is one of the ingredients, I would recommend that
everyone stay away from it. It clearly states on the bottle that it causes cancer, birth defects and a whole
lot of other things, not to mention the chemical is outlawed for sale in the state of California. With all that
being said, I do have the show nuff recipe straight from Georgia and all of the ingredients can be found in
your local supermarket at a very reasonable price. The total price from start to finish will cost you under
$5.00 dollars and the rewards on the finished product are astonishing. Here it is and remember to follow
the directions very close and it is guaranteed to knock your socks off.

1.Get approx. a quarter pound of pork fatback or pork salt meat, either will work fine. If your not sure just
ask your local butcher at the grocery store.

2.Get at least one bunch of fresh collard greens. You can buy them usually cut fresh out of the ground or I
have got them pre cut and washed in a plastic bag.

3.Cut all of the greens up into bite size pieces and wash them real good.

4.Get a large boiler and fill about half way with water. Add all of the ingredients to the boiler and bring
them to a boil on the stove. Reduce heat and simmer for about two hours or until done.

5.Get a large bowl and fill it with the cooked greens, add salt to taste. Grab the nearest lazy boy recliner
and dive in with your favorite football game.

Just thought a little humor would lighten the load. Hope you enjoy !! Thanks for letting me share.

CHOW !!!
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Anonymous 1/23/2010 5:10 PM

oppps 1 oz gun blue to one cup
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Anonymous 2/02/2010 12:18 PM

been in th game 25+ years. never seen it this bad,straight poison..without conscience..all about the dollar.
in the old days, it wasn't about makin money...most of the old outlaws that synthesized speed actually
gave half a shit about the folks doing it. i'm a speedfreak...pure and simple.i have learned to live with it as
best as i can. i've read and down loaded this blog and may or may not fuck around...i do appreciate the
info. for anyone who tries to be a gangster or whatever and puts innocents at risk are shit...go to the
bush, hunker in, handle it. stupidity is stupidity no matter how fast it is going...stupid people on speed just
wreck faster. woo-hoo.
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Anonymous 2/02/2010 12:34 PM

oh, and another thing....whoever put crank into a glass orb and started smoking it needs an ass
beating...damn glowies have everything fucked up...do lines dumb asses, or, better yet buffer it some and
put it in gel caps. like medication. measured dose, no paraphernalia, and what cop is gonna suspect a
bunch of pills in a vitamin bottle? Aw but hell no....smokin it won't stop. what fun is poppin a pill?? we
wanna sit around in a circle, try and talk over each other, carry a stupid glass pipe, and a bag to fill it,
loose our teeth to the caustic smoke and not even gonna think about our lungs...whew, pretty lame. back
in the day it was crosstops, black beauties, bennies, etc. and the hardcore who fired it.
now...now..stupidity. (as i reach for my store bought "oil burner" for a hit..).you do know doomsday is
12/21/2012 right?

fuck it. if i ever catch my son with a glowie he's gonna get beat down..hypocrite? yes. true though.

oh and fuck prop. 36,meth hysteria, and society too.

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Anonymous 2/04/2010 9:21 AM

I myself am a recovering addict... This is nuts and I myself wouldnt use "meth" if it only lasted 10
mintues... I myself have done the "pure" stuff from mexico... and even stuff made in your coffee pot and
smelled like airplane glue... for anyone that is trying, or wants to try to quit and needs some moral
support feel free to email me at [email protected] I have been clean of meth for 5 years after
being on it for 7 years... been totally clean of all drugs for over 3 years... i know the rough road that one
lives and is faceing... we all need someone to be there for us...
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Anonymous 4/02/2010 5:33 AM

can some one post the step by step to making easter bunny dope
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Anonymous 4/15/2010 4:17 PM

Yes, swim has heard of the recipe. Doesnt make real methamphetamine tho, just Selenuim Dioxide, which
has similar "stay awake" properties. Also can be deadly in larger doses. Check out selenium poisining if
needed.

Also, the iodine and acid and litium and what not is crazy, dont throw these all together, you could cause a
fire. All you need to grow the crystals is Ammonia (like at the grocery store), table salt, water, and Mrs.
Stewarts Laundry bluing. You can use activated carbon or ground up charcoal, as medium, or a porous
brick or sponge in the bottom of the bowl. The recipe is as follows:

What you need.

* A tray or shallow bowl.

* Charcoal briquettes or porous brick or sponge.

* 90ml table salt.

* 90ml Mrs. Stewart's Liquid Bluing (sometimes found in soap section of the grocery store).

* 15ml household ammonia.

* Food coloring.

What to do.

Place a few pieces of charcoal briquettes or other base material in the pan. Mix the salt, liquid bluing, and
ammonia together. Pour the salt mixture over the charcoal. Crystal growth should should appear after a
day or two. A free circulation of air is necessary, and formations will develop best where the air is dry.

To keep it growing, add more bluing/salt/ammonia from time to time. Be careful not to damage the
delicate growing crystals when adding more salt mixture. It will "bloom" indefinitely into shards/crystals.

What can be learned.

The crystals are formed by salt molecules joining together as the liquid evaporates into the air. The
ammonia helps to speed the rate of evaporation. Liquid bluing is a colloidal suspension of extremely
minute particles of blue powder (Ferric Hexacyanoferrate). This is not a solution in the true chemical
sense of that word. Ferric Hexacyanoferrate is an inorganic polymer of complex ions which gives bluing
its blue color. The ammonia in the recipe breaks this complex allowing iron salts to be incorporated into
the salt crystals growing in the crystal garden. Notice that when the ferric hexacyanoferrate complex is
broken, the blue color is lost and the garden exhibits the reds and yellows typical of the original iron
compounds that made up the bluing.

The purpose of the porous material (charcoal or sponge pieces) is to provide a means for capillary action
to carry the liquid containing bluing and salt up from the main source of liquid. It also speeds evaporation
and allows crystals to form across the entire garden.

Additions of bluing and salt on later days should be made by slipping the new liquid in below the rest of
the growth. Capillary action will bring this new material up where the evaporation can cause additional
formations of crystals.

As far as this being meth, it is sometimes passed on as such, tho it isnt. Some say it has similar effects
when injested/snorted/smoked, but i am unsure. The product obtained is considered TOXIC, so do not
iject/use this product! You are warned!

Some users make this as a quick fix/dollar. I am unsure what it burns like or tastes like, tho i can imagine.
But this is the recipe. Forget all the other recipes that say 20-30 days. This will provide you with said
crystals in as little as 12 hours, 4 days tops. Be careful, and be safe!
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lost 4/28/2010 12:17 PM

Is this thing on?
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lost 4/28/2010 12:23 PM

I know a guy who has a brother with a steo sisters who's boyfriend has triend over 10 times to make the
magic stuff grow using the post found here as an instruction manual. Never once has it produced
anything but a big mess! Is their anyone here who has, themself, actually been more lucky enough to
produce an acceptable result? Surely if possible someones had good fortune?!?!
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Anonymous 5/03/2010 11:13 AM

well, then they cant read. All you have to do is put it in a dark place where the solution will evaporate
quickly enough to form the crystals. DONT USE A FAN! Collect the "mess" from the sides of the pan or
pickle jar, and dry if it isnt already. Simple.

Selenium Dioxide: what an awesome school experiment!

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Anonymous 5/07/2010 1:02 PM

Hmmm...gun bluing..unactivated charchol(fish filters)muratic acid(cleaning cement) aluminum pure
amonia strings and air tight container all blacked out no light mix it like your making a cake aside from
the strings and foil and hydrochloric acid those two go on top make a boat and then add a little bit of
muratic aluminum dioxide occurs the reaction occurs the fumes have no where to go kind of a
stallagmite effect on the strings then take all that shit that you wouldn't eat by itself and put a half gram
in a casule and sweat and damn near hallucinate lol... memories... it is your life live it your own
way...everyday junglyst livin it up not givin a fuck
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lost 5/17/2010 10:24 AM

ok, i need some assistance, if anyone could help please.
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Anonymous 5/26/2010 3:13 AM

look, people will smoke what you give them, and if they feel like the bowl they just smoked was worth
$20, hell, ill take it.

people would do this anyway. we're not killing babies, we're not leading good christians down the wrong
path. we are giving addicts what they want. and in return getting what i need. rent money.

dope, salt, if people are buying, i guess im selling

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lost 6/06/2010 2:33 AM

I can't seem to get the mix correct. Can someone post please!?!?!?
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Anonymous 6/12/2010 7:45 PM

ive been readin everythin n i feel all ur pain crank is amazin done a few lines n can c y plp wanna know
how to b n artist, well i can tell a recipe i heard its made by mixin red phosorrus from gettin the satety
matchs n pourin 99% rubbin alcohol n get table salt (iodine) n puttin that in a coffee maker in the filter
then u put 4 pure ammonia in the container where u put the water when u want coffee then u turn it on
left it brew then cool the put lithium cut open a batterie n get the pastse out in the pot that is still warm
will dissolve n let cool n crystals should b formin
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Anonymous 6/24/2010 12:08 PM

you all arfull of it iam in midle of divorce over this meth happens to d her drug of chose trying to figure out
what this shit is and i dothink anyone n knows prove this shit once and 4 all show a damn pid
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Anonymous 7/09/2010 12:15 AM

Question: who would put this poison in there system? What a gross concoction! Heet, ammonia, lithium,
etc. Nasty.
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Anonymous 7/09/2010 11:00 PM

for what its worth, although it seems to have been repeated, you use equal parts #5 gun bluing(from
carter country) which has p2p in it. ammonia nitrate and "activated charcoal". mix

gun bluing with charcoal at the bottom of big igloo cooler and set up coke cans cut in half and filled with
the ammonia nitrate. hang strings down. duct tape shut and bury underground. 14 to 28 days. although
the longer you wait the more worthless crap you got. it seems to go inactive pretty quick. i know i guy that
makes it and sells 30k worth a month. i bought 7 grams. shards. looked awesome! kinda like long crystal
teeth. i put some in a vial and it turned to liquid in my pocket. in 3 weeks it was worthless. i was like
"wtf?!?"

anyway, met the guy who made it and he showed me exactly how he did it. i said "i don't know what you
got but it ain't meth and probably poison!" he laughed and said "people love it". it was real good for a few
days. i saw people smoke it and shoot it. the rush was exactly what i'd expect it to be so i don't know what
to think. my thinking was the p2p was somehow the active part. now, i haven't looked at the #5 bluing
label but he swears it says p2p. if it was p2p could just evaporated p2p and ammonia and activated
charcoal create anything? well, i know what i saw and felt and something is made and it acts like speed
and has a nice crystal shard structure. once it loses potency people use the bunk to cut real meth with.
why would selenium dioxide lose strength?? not all bluing is made equal it seems and this would explain
all the varied results.

the ammonia nitrate he used was like karo syrup and i don't know where he got it. he said a brick supplier
company. the activated charcoal from a fish store. alot of money is made selling this turkey-dope...
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Anonymous 7/18/2010 10:28 PM

k so u add ammonia charcoal and gun blueing in equal parts n put it in a airtight container 4 30 days with
strings suspended with the gun blue soaked in them then rinse them in acetone to clean the blue n
conteniments but how do u preserve the shard so it doesnt melt i figure u add anouther chemical agent to
it n put it in a valcum packing bag then throw it in the freezer till ready but wut would u add to make the
ice not melt any1?????
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Anonymous 8/06/2010 10:02 AM

directed to anonymous 7-18-2010 that's precisely my ? how could it be done? if you done soak string in
blueing mixture would it still work and if so would there be a need to even wash it then?
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Anonymous 8/13/2010 3:43 PM

this is anonymous 7-18-2010 thank u anonymous 8-06-2010 as i was sayin b4 that u add the inggredients
in equal parts n the wait 30 days in a airtight container if u wanna do it rite first u buy a 25 liter bucket n a
gallon of gun blue $120 n a gallon of janiter strength 10% ammonia n 9 lbs charcoal brikets with lighter
fluid in it already get 12 oz cotton string cuz cotton absorbs 20-27x its own weight muitiply 20x12 240 0z
absobency or more the gun blue is 1 gallon 128 0z so u have enouth cotton string so get a 1 quart
measurin cup n put 4 quarts charcoal in the bucket cut holes in the lid of the bucket put all the string
though n get duck tape i use gorilla tape get a comb n pour bit by bit gunblue n comb the strings n add
the ammonia the the charcoal n put the lid on n make sure the strings are fairly straight n put the lid on n
duck tape the bucket n bury that sucker bout 3 feet or a meter under ground after bury up the bucket n
take the shards which will b 8 lbs cuz u used a gallon gun blue 128 0z or 8 16 oz portions n rinse it in
actone to wash the blue 3-5x now use 8 0z gorilla glue ik its gorilla but they have the best tape n glue its
stonger then any other product cuz ur usin 8 oz or half a pound to 8 pounds crystal thats pretty
poportinate n coat it nice n put it in a air tight bag the ice isnt gonna melt cuz u coated it now but put in in
a ziplock bag n toose those 8 lbs in the freezer till ready jib sell for on average $2,000 per oz or $20,000
per lb but u should sell this for $1,000 per oz or $10,000 per lb thats $80,000
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Anonymous 8/23/2010 1:38 AM

okay, shake and bake, take 3oz of cold pack or "amonium niatr" then ur pills then 3oz of lye 20 oz of fuel
then 3 lith batter, shake for 40mins or until u see gold then gas off with muratic or liquid fire simple as
123
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Anonymous 8/30/2010 1:27 PM
hello anonymous i admire your fortitude...i hoped you could tell me if there is a way to legally get the
effects of meth....you see i am dying and would like that feeling one more
[email protected]
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Anonymous 8/30/2010 1:28 PM

hello anonymous i admire your fortitude...i hoped you could tell me if there is a way to legally get the
effects of meth....you see i am dying and would like that feeling one more
[email protected]
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Anonymous 9/14/2010 9:59 AM

8-13 ..I got lost when it come to the gorilla glue ??
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Anonymous 9/16/2010 4:27 PM

hi this is 8-13

supplies: 1 5gallon bucket,1 gallon gunblue,1 gallon ace janiters strength ammonia,4 quarts crushed
charcoal with lighter fluied in it,1 quart measuring cup,1 pair rubber gloves,1 long comb,2 4oz bottles
gorrila glue(worlds strongest super glue),1roll gorrilla tape(worlds strongest duct tape),4 12oz rolls
cotton string,1 quart acetone,airtight ziplock bags.

precedure: put 4 quarts crushed charcoal with lighter fluied and put that in the bucket. then drill 1/8''
holes all around the lid of the bucket and put the string though the holes and duct tape the top so the
strings dont fall out. now put on gloves and pour the gunblue on the strings slowly quart by quart n comb
the strings like your braiding someones hair. after take the gallon janiters strength ammonia and pour all
of it in the bucket with the crushed charcoal n put the lid on n use all the tape cuz ur gonna bury the
bucket 3 feet under the ground 4 a month. after take the bucket out n take the shards off the strings
which should add up to b 8lbs cuz a gallon of gunblue weighs 4 quarts, 128oz or 8lbs. put the shards in a
large bowl n slowly pour the quart of acetone in n wash it 5x slowly stir it the take them out n slowly pour
the 2 4oz bottles super glue n mix it gradully n seperate them n let dry. y we doin this the thin u jus made
is a rock stimulent (meth) n it doesnt lose potency but structure in a few weeks so were doin this so it
doesnt itll get u high 4 2 days even after a month so put the shards in a airtight ziplock bag n toose it in
the freezer till ready to use or sell. wise people do this with cartons of ciggerites to keep extra fresh. P.S.
WTF is the deal with this pickel jar method n shake n bake method? hope this post helped u dont need to
b a chemist to make stimulents but u do to make actullal meth but this gets u cranked jus the same. post
back on this site any1?
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Anonymous 9/16/2010 6:57 PM
have you actually seen this method work or was it just passed on to you , not doubting you just alot of
bad info out there
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Anonymous 9/17/2010 4:08 PM

this is 9-16-2010

yes n i c where ur comin from but if u mix ammonia n coal n gunble(selinius acids togetteer in equal
parts) 2.5x concentrate shooters solutions) to b exctact ull suceed in makine chemical crytal formation.
look it up nigga rugged gun blue n ull find 1 gallon to cost $120 look 4 1 gallon ace janiters ammonia in
harwarestores n buy the suppies i listed b4 in my n use them as i said in the previous posting n ull make a
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the glue you mention isnt it brown in color ?so would this stain the clear shards ?
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Anonymous 9/18/2010 4:08 PM

this is 9-17-2010

yes it is but it wont stain the crystal its just brown in color but it clears up after its mixed n dried
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this is beef jerky , I have a gal of vans instant gun blue would this probaly work as well with recipie
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after the mix comes out of the oven, i assume you use the acetone to remove the gunblue. do you then
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directed to anonymous 01-05-2010 i have mixed in a 4 litre pickel jar 2 lbs crushed charcoal and 1 cup
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how big the batch would b but ill find out in 2 more weeks when i wash the mixure in acetone when i take
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Ive tried a few of the methods step by step with no luck ..Im at the point its all myth ..unless someone
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JT 12/06/2010 1:49 AM
I heard of a method that uses nickel welding rods, muratic acid, fish charcoal, ammonia,wine glasses and
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I have tried with no luck the 4L pickel jar method didnt work ive heard of a method using 2 0z hoppies#9
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with $1 of nickels @ the bottm of the jar under the charcoal with cotton string coated with the gunbue
with the pickel jar sitting on a hotplate medium heat for 30 days. Ive also heard of a anouther method
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eletoniclly heating the container. Well I think im gonna go with the good oll Red Ph, iodine, Ephedrine
reduction all you need is a wine bottle punching bloon tape and 10 grams red phoserious from 100 safty
matchbooks by scrapping the strikers and 10 grams iodine crystal can be bought on ebay for $10 per oz
and 10 grams Ephedrine from 4 boxes of sudafed. precedure u take take your pills n crush them n put
them in a sealed jar with some methonol ("HEET")n shake it for 20 min then put it though a coffee fiter in
a funnal the put it in a bowl n let it dry. the u take your 10 grams red phoserious from the scrappins of the
match strikers put it in the wine bottle or flask n also put the 10 grams of iodine crytal alone with 10
grams ephedrine from your pills after it drys. put the bloon over the bottle n tape it then put it on a hot
plate on 350' F for 2-6 hours watch it it will melt n make a red fumey liquid this is hydrolic acid from the
red phoserios n iodine reacting with ur ephedrine make meth after the liqioud turns clear it is done turn
off the heat n let cool off result 10 grams of purest n finest methamphetamine 99.9% potency
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Anonymous 12/18/2010 6:43 PM

Ok I live in a tiny town in oklahoma! No hook ups to be found. Wanting a decently easy way to do the "ice"
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Anonymous 1/28/2011 9:02 PM

My ex-wife, mother-in-law and a couple of cousins told me about the "new" ice: They said it kept them up
2 days, but when they went back for more, the dealer's stuff was worthless. They said the guy told them
he got cheated and that it was that crappy aquarium ice; it's evidently better than the real thing for about
a week, but then it goes bad. I thought I would see what the dealers are selling and calling it meth since
ephedrine was effectively outlawed, and what my ex is putting into her system now that the real thing is
becoming harder to get, so I did a google search and it led me to this page. It looks like most everybody is
clueless as to what the newest drug of choice actually is.

From my viewpoint, they probably should just give up on the drug war; they've spent $70,000 keeping my
ex in jail for 2 years for meth, and several thousand more for rehab and counseling. She got out, got a job,
got her first paycheck and blew half of it on something that, when I ask why she does it, she says it
"makes her little heart happy". When she tests dirty, she'll go right back for another year or two of
"vacation" at taxpayer expense, $35,000 per year. The only way to stop her would be to kill her, and I don't
really think anybody short of a few lunatics like Limbaugh really thinks murdering a few million addicts is
a feasible solution to the problem. She's mostly harmless; I honestly think that if she wants to spend her
own hard-earned money slowly killing herself, it's really nobody else's business. She started using it way
back when those "your brain on drugs" ads popped up; she thought that if they were going to that much
trouble to tell her not to do it, it just had to be worth trying.

The net result of making ephedrine hard to get has been that the Mexicans have taken over the a big
chunk of the drug business from the locals, and they are killing each other by the thousands over their
newfound wealth, while people in this country are making crazy concoctions and calling it meth. If this
new meth substitute really is selenium, in a few years there are going to be a LOT of really sick people
with bad livers and kidneys as a result of long-term selenium poisoning. That'll be another hundred billion
dollars and maybe a couple hundred thousand lives cut short that we can add to the drug war's cost. For
the record, pure meth actually doesn't have a really high mortality rate. It's the leftover phosphorus from
basement chemists' half-cooked products that rots the teeth and bones, and deaths from overdoses are
generally because people who normally get stuff that's cut 4 to 1 get a dose of uncut meth.

I would really like to know whether this crap really is selenium; if it is, does anybody know just how much
damage it's doing to the people who are using it? I could care less if it makes the in-laws' innards drop
out, but I do still care about the ex.
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Anonymous 3/13/2011 4:34 AM

what you are getting ephedrine, the reason it isnt as potent after a day or two is because the chemicals
are drying out, but all you need to do now is reduce it, believe me if you want, i really dont give a fuk, but i
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Anonymous 3/26/2011 7:02 PM

Hey , all of you people chill out. I have been high on this so called bunk dope for days. I love this shit.
Gedion is a hater and a idiot. Stop looking for mothers gun blue, it doesnt exist. Super Blue is the ticket.
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Unknown 5/01/2011 2:39 PM

I am doing some reasearch and found this forum on "complete bunk" "easter bunny" and now I'm days
into this reasearch and there seems to b a lot. Of misunderstandings on what the end product actually is,
and methods is this a myth ?My research has shown me that selenium is what it is ...I'm just looking for
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The Stranger: In order to make gun blue meth you need anhydrious ammonia(NH3) and gun blue and tar
in equal parts. Because tar is from crude oil(benzene) this makes it an organic starting precuser like
ephedrine and P2P(pheny-2-propanolamine) so how do you make anhydrious ammonia? you mix 7 parts
ammonium nitrate(fertilizer) and 1 part sodium huydroxide(lye drain cleaner) and you place that in a
plastic container like a milk jug and place the jug in the middle of an airtight cooler filled half ways with
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put the lid on the cooler and wait 5 minites now you have anhydrious ammonia(NH3)
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truth about this, it is most definitely chemically feasible, but not with those chemicals. methamphetamine
doesnt metabolize well. about 80% of what is ingested comes out in urine. the other 20 percent makes
interesting things happen to your body, but is not processed by it. it comes out through the pores in your
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has to be a method for growing this stuff. Either on this blog or not,because I know to many people that
talk about this method.plus I know someone personally who use to deal with ice and when he was selling
it he told me a methican brout him an ounce one time and it was still a little damp from where they
washed it,and the methican also told him it was like a type of fungus,and this dude"never"lies, so I know
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more than i can remember) was all clear when in shard form and if it's pure will crumble to dust just from
being in your pocket because it's so britle,makeing it look more white.Unlike that red phosforus dope or
that shake N' bake,that when i saw cooked,"allways"turned out white, never clear.Ive saw a lot of meth and
know a pretty good bit from experience,and dope connections,so if someone tells you growing it is
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how to do the shake N' bake method.He left out an important step,and here it is: When you first screw the
cap on and start shakeing the bottle,it will start building up pressure, so you will need to release some of
that pressure before it builds to much,you do this by barely loosening the cap until you hear air start
coming out, makeing sure not to take the cap all the way of,release most of the pressure, then screw the
cap back on,"repeat if needed".And he also left out when stripping the batteries,DON'T let them touch
water or they will ignite and start flameing like a road flair.when this happens, people don't know why it's
happening and then they want to throw it into water to put the flame out,which will only make it
worse.And if the bottom of your 2-liter bottle starts inflaiting and becomes rounded while cooking,dont
worry,this is normal.If you do the process wright,you can produce up to an 8-ball(3.5 grams)from one
box.if you don't get that much,your not doing something wright.As for the grow method I almost left out
that if you get a clear shard with a dark spot in the middle of it,that is going to be the best piece,because
when it melts down,it will have a blue tent to it and the buzz off it will feel twice as powerfull,but
unfortunately these shards are very rare and they have to be pure dope,None of that cut shit.I just quit
messing with all of this stuff about 1 week ago because I hit rock bottom and I hope all yaw mother
fuckers have to go through what I just when't through.I'm working on living life right now and don't ever
wan't to go back to that cold ass bitch called Ice,It made me permanitly fucked in the head in some
ways,It took away alot of friends and my family members will never look at me the same again,and all I
have to show for it is a bunch of scars on my body that will be there permenantly.I think I might be getting
my concius back but I dont know because I still don't give a fuck about anybody and it's like I have hardly
any emotions except anger.If you do this shit for a long period of time,what has happened to me will
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deserve it.Your mind can only take so much lack of sleep before you start going crazy,I have an I.Q. of 132
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fuckin wonderful at first, the first two years I done it,I could stay up for 2 weeks straight without even
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cooked dope for 10 years before the boys in jack boots broke down my door. I was convicted of
manufacturing, and sentenced to 4 years. I was vary lucky to only get 4 years at that. I'm only telling you
all this for one reason. The high I enjoyed for 10 years was not worth the time I served in prison. The
worst part is trying to find a job. Getting busted for drug possession is bad enough I guess, but at least
during the job interview you could say you were only holding it for a friend. There are a lot of other crimes
that can make it difficult to get a job too, but there is nothing quite like explaining how or why you were
busted for manufacturing methamphetamine that is if you can even get to the interview step. The cops
and prosecutors, and the drug czars of the federal government have given meth users and meth cooks
such a bad reputation with all their negative propaganda, and disinformation. If convicted of
manufacturing your trouble really starts after your released, and it never goes away. I did time with a lot of
people that were serving time for manufacturing that were not real cooks. They had no idea of the
process involved in making methamphetamine, or Easter bunny dope. Yet they were convicted of
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any of the precursors use for making dope, ie.... iodine, red phosphorous, cold pills, and so on. The crazy
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