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Alpha = 0.05
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Alpha = 0.025
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Alpha = 0.01
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Alpha = 0.005
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Alpha = 0.001
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Click here to download the Excel workbook with the above table.
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Amy
February 23, 2022 at 4:30 am
Hi there Charles,
I have the XRealStats-Mac package downloaded and have ticked the solver and
XRealStats add-in on my current excel workbook but the QDIST and QCRIT
functions don’t seem to be there ? any workarounds at all ?
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thank you !
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Charles
February 24, 2022 at 10:36 am
Hi Amy,
What do you see when you enter the formula =VER() in any cell?
Charles
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Rifki
June 9, 2021 at 12:53 am
use of Sig. 0.05, 0.025, 0.001 based on what? based on need or up to us?
I’m still confused why the app by default uses 0.05
Please help me
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Charles
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In some sense, these values are arbitrary, especially the default of alpha = .05.
Probably .05 was chosen since it means that a wrong outcome occurs 1 time
out of 20, and this was viewed as acceptable.
Charles
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Michelle O
May 21, 2021 at 7:44 pm
I am using these tables with the df of the WG (Error). Is that the correct df to
use?
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Charles
May 23, 2021 at 9:40 am
Michelle,
I don’t know what the WG(Error) means. The df for the error term is the one
used in the table.
Charles
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Wilson Fandino
March 20, 2021 at 8:36 pm
Dear Charles,
I am enjoying and learning a lot from your website. From this table, it is clear to
me that the q statistic is related to t statistic in that q=t*squared root of 2.
However, it only applies for the first column (k=2). My question is whether
there is a relationship between the t statistics and the other columns (k>2), so
that we can use the t table instead if this table. Thank you in advance for your
reply.
Regards,
Wilson Fandino
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Charles
March 21, 2021 at 8:57 am
Wilson,
You can’t replace the studentized q range distribution by the t distribution.
Charles
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Thomas L
December 6, 2020 at 5:13 pm
Hi,
2) More important question :-). Is there a table anywhere where I can manually
get the corresponding P VALUES calculated based on any given Qstat (without
using the Qdist plugin)? How could i best go about this would that formula?
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Charles
December 9, 2020 at 4:52 pm
Hi Thomas,
1. The ANOVA 1 examples workbook contains the same Studentized Range q
values that you see on this webpage, but in Excel format (and therefore
copyable format).
You say that the values are different from the ones in
http://elvers.us/stats/tables/qprobability.html. The values on this webpage
don’t include entries for 41-47, 49-59, 61-79 and 81-119. Can you give me one
or two examples outside of these ranges where the values on the Real
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Statistics website and this found in the table that you referenced in your
comment?
2. I have not found a table with the p-values. Instead, for Real Statistics, these
values are calculated via a program in the software. The results are returned
by the QDIST function. You can use this function to create the table that you
are looking for.
Charles
Charles
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Bele
November 20, 2020 at 1:10 pm
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Charles
November 20, 2020 at 7:03 pm
Bele,
See http://pba.ucdavis.edu/files/45010.pdf.
You will need to use interpolation for p = 21 to 25.
Charles
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FEVILIN TANGID
November 8, 2020 at 4:36 pm
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Charles
November 10, 2020 at 4:35 pm
See https://www.real-statistics.com/one-way-analysis-of-variance-
anova/unplanned-comparisons/tukey-hsd/
Charles
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Kuhle
May 3, 2020 at 6:03 pm
Dear professor.
Thanks a lot the table is quite clear .
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qixinchen
March 28, 2020 at 7:54 pm
dear prof
how to calculate the critical value of SSR(Duncan’s) distribution using the qinv
fuction you supplied?
thank u very much.
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Charles
March 29, 2020 at 6:57 pm
Hello,
Real Statistics doesn’t support Duncan’s post-hoc test. See the following for
details about how to use the q-crit value for this test:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan%27s_new_multiple_range_test
Charles
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April 4, 2020 at 7:17 pm
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Tok Bunchantha
July 20, 2016 at 9:59 am
Duncan’s Multiple Range Test DMRT still valid. If yes, its formilar
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Charles
July 20, 2016 at 10:21 am
Tok,
You can use the DMRT, but some have criticized the test as being too liberal.
Tukey’s HSD is commonly used instead and so I have focused on this test
instead of DMRT.
Charles
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huda
November 16, 2017 at 6:01 pm
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Charles
November 16, 2017 at 8:15 pm
Huda,
The referenced webpage includes the table for alpha = .001.
Charles
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Hi Charles,
Hi Charles,
I’m sorry to insist so much on Tukey’s HSD, but I really want to understand.
Does what you wrote mean that Tukey’s HSD is not set up to compare say the
group with the second smallest mean with say the group with the third largest
mean?
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The point is that after having made an analysis of variance, and found that
there is, at least one significant difference among the means, it is essential to
find out which of the various differences among the means may be statistically
significant. One thing you know for sure (at a given level of confidence) and
that is that there may be significance between the smallest and the largest
mean…
So what to do if you want to calculate the smallest difference that should exist
between two significantly different means since Fishers LSD’s error rate
becomes too high for more than three (I read) means?
The answer to this question needs to show a fine balance between reliability
and precision, I feel.
Thank you once more for your precious time,
Erik
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Charles
February 26, 2016 at 6:18 pm
Hi Erik,
Tukey’s HSD will identify a significant difference between any two groups, not
just the smallest mean with the largest. The way it reduces experimentwise
error is based on the difference between the largest and smallest means, but
this is perhaps a detail that you may not find that important.
Charles
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Hi Charles,
1. I found in my wine tastings Tukey’s HSD test being so severe that it often
makes conclusions disappointing at 95% of confidence level. As I wrote to you I
believe a one sided test is applicable since all differences between means are
positive, would you aggree with that? I really am interested to know weather
your tables refere to a one tailed test or not. If they were two sided one could
use de 90% tables and have a confidence level of 95%
2. Why do you not support Fisher’s LSD test? Is it because it uses the Residual
Variance and a t-value while HSD uses the Within Wines Variance and a q-
value? For my wine tastings it gave mostly plausible, say “believable” values.
But is gut feeling of course.
Thank you sincerely for answer,
Erik
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Charles
February 19, 2016 at 7:59 pm
Hi Erik,
1. As I just wrote to you, I believe that Tukey’s HSD is a two tailed test.
2. I don’t support Fisher’s LSD since it doesn’t handle experimentwise error
rate very well. Tukey’s HSD is much better at this.
Charles
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carlo
February 3, 2016 at 4:49 am
hello. may i ask?. How can be the q critical value be computed without
depending on the Duncan’s distribution table? Is there an existing formula that
can be used? what is it? thanks for your response 🙂
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Charles
February 3, 2016 at 9:53 am
Carlo,
You can compute the q critical value by using the QINV worksheet formula
supplied by the Real Statistics Resource Pack, as described on the following
webpage>
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distribution/
The resource pack can be downloaded for free from the website.
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carlo
February 5, 2016 at 3:11 am
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Charles
February 5, 2016 at 8:26 am
Carlo,
What version of the software are you using? The Mac version?
Charles
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Amy
February 23, 2022 at 4:26 am
I’ve had this same issue, I have the Excel 16.58 version on Mac, I’ve made
sure that both the Solver add-in and the XRealStats-Mac add-in are ticked
but the QCRIT or QDIST functions don’t seem to be there ?
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Charles
February 24, 2022 at 10:36 am
Hi Amy,
What do you see when you enter the formula =VER() in any cell?
Charles
Hi Charles,
I have been trying to come to a better understanding of Tukey’s HSD and
wonder if you can aggree with what I wrote hereunder:
Given a panel of n judges scoring each of k wines means X1, …, Xi, … Xk were
found.
After sorting those means from largest to smallest, the test hypotheses for the
k(k-1)/2 differences are:
Ho: mu-i minus mu-j = 0
H1: mu-i minus mu-j larger than 0, and not “different from zero” like I found
on some sites.
So reject Ho if Xi – Xj >= q-alpha*S-w/square root n, seems to me being a one-
sided test. Is this correct ? Is your table 3 made up in that sense ?
Thank you very much, this is a brillant site,
Erik
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Charles
February 19, 2016 at 7:47 pm
Erik,
I am very please that you like the site and I appreciate your calling it
“brilliant”.
I believe that Tukey’s HSD is a two-tailed test and not a one-tailed test.
The reason for the sorting that you refer to is that the test is essentially set up
to compare the group with the smallest mean with the group with the largest
mean.
Charles
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good day. i have this little question. How can be the q critical value be
computed without depending on the tukey’s distribution table? Is there an
existing formula that can be used? what is it? thanks for your response 🙂
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Charles
August 16, 2015 at 5:49 am
The Real Statistics Resource Pack provides the QINV function which
calculates the critical values. See the webpage
Studentized Range Distribution
Charles
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Iris Jimenez
April 10, 2015 at 7:44 pm
How can i get the critical value if my df=42 and n=3, with alpha=0.05? I can
see 40 and 60 but I don’t know how I can get the exact value for that? What is
my critical value then? Thanks!
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Charles
April 13, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Iris,
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(1) interpolate the values in the table between the values for 40 and 60. Since
42 is a lot closer to 40 than 60, the appropriate value should be closer to the
value in the table for 40.
(2) Install the Real Statistics Resource Pack. You can then use either the
QCRIT or QINV function. QCRIT will do the interpolation for you and QINV
will directly calculate an estimated value for df = 42.
Charles
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Jess
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Charles
March 8, 2015 at 10:26 am
Jess,
Yes, these tables are applicable to Games-Howell. If your df is between 4 and 5
you can interpolate between the values in the table.
Sorry but I haven’t had time to look at the references you provided regarding
your other questions.
Charles
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Jess
March 8, 2015 at 11:16 am
Dear Charles,
Thank you kindly for that!
I have since downloaded the program onto my mac and have attempted to
use QCRIT formula, however every time I type the function with the values,
separated by commas, it shows up as #NAME and says ‘compile error in
module: look up’.
Any guidance please?
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Jess
March 8, 2015 at 11:17 am
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Charles
March 13, 2015 at 10:36 pm
Jess,
I have just checked on my Windows.based computer and the QCRIT
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function works fine. I can’t think of any reason why it wouldn’t work on the
Mac, but
unfortunately, since I don’t own a Mac I can’t test the QCRIT on the Mac
until the next time I borrow a Mac from a friend. In any case, you can try to
use the QINV function which estimates the value of the inverse
Studentized Range value without doing a table lookup.
Charles
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Gurumani
December 31, 2014 at 3:15 am
Thank you for your service! I am interested to known about ANOVA post-hoc Q
test. Is it possible to run this test for more than 20 treatments (groups)? Where
do I get a Q table that provides values for a>20? Can I calculate table Q value?
How? Is there an “infinite a” Q value? Will you please help me?
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Charles
December 31, 2014 at 10:27 am
Gurumani,
The Real Statistics Resource Pack provides the function QINV(p, k, df, tails)
which calculates the table value for any value of k (= # of groups), even for k >
20. The values of Q for infinite df are given in the table on the referenced
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webpage. You can download the Real Statistics Resource Pack for free from
the website.
Charles
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hemn
December 29, 2014 at 4:53 pm
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Charles
January 6, 2015 at 10:49 am
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Sarah
November 24, 2014 at 9:24 pm
Can someone please tell me what the Q statistic is for alpha=0.05, df=156 and
k=4? I can’t find it in the reference table.
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Charles
November 24, 2014 at 10:09 pm
Sarah,
You would need to interpolate between the table values for df = 120 and df =
240. Q-crit for df = 120 is 3.685 and the Q-crit for df = 240 id 3.659. A linear
interpolation would give the value 3.6772, which can be calculated using the
Real Statistics formula =QCRIT(4,156,0.05,2).
The Real Statistics formula =QINV(0.05,4,156,2), which does not use the
table, will usually give a more accurate answer, which in this case is 3.6726.
Charles
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hemn
September 26, 2014 at 12:28 pm
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Charles
September 28, 2014 at 3:05 pm
This comes from reference [Ha] on the Bibliography webpage of the Real
Statistics website.
Charles
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hemn
September 26, 2014 at 12:26 pm
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Charles
September 28, 2014 at 3:04 pm
This comes from reference [Ha] on the Bibliography webpage of the Real
Statistics website.
Charles
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Adeniran Seyi
September 7, 2014 at 4:34 pm
how can i get df 45, i can only see 40 and then 60. thanks
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Charles
September 8, 2014 at 4:38 pm
You have to interpolate. E.g. if the table value for 40 is .2 and the table value
for 60 is .4 then the value for 45 would be .25.
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Alternatively you can use the QCRIT or QINV functions provided in the Real
Statistics Resource Pack which carry out this work for you. See the webpage
https://real-statistics.com/students-t-distribution/studentized-range-
distribution/.
Charles
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binxu
July 7, 2014 at 1:49 am
Can anyone please tell me what the Q statistic is for alpha 0.05, df 75 and k 23?
I have not found it in any reference table.
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Charles
July 7, 2014 at 6:17 am
These are outside the range of values found in the table. You can use the Real
Statistics Resource Pack’s QINV function to find the approximate value. The
formula =QINV(0.05,23,75) gives the value 5.306308907. More details can be
found at https://real-statistics.com/students-t-distribution/studentized-
range-distribution/.
Charles
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nano
May 22, 2014 at 2:41 am
hello
Can you please tell me what the Q statistic is for two way anova (25×2), alpha
0.05, and df 200 ? Thx 😀
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Charles
May 24, 2014 at 7:30 am
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