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FL Studio vs Ableton: Missing Features

The document discusses missing features in FL Studio after using Ableton Live. It compares the workflows and features of both DAWs. The author notes several features from Ableton Live that they would like to see implemented in FL Studio like clip launching, session view workflow, and simpler browsing of presets and samples.

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<h3 class="first"><a href="#p1755950">My two cents on missing features in FL after using
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<div class="content">Hey hey,<br>
<br>
I know, I know it's one of these posts again but maybe this can ignite some discussions or spark some ideas
for the devs.<br>
<br>
Some background: I used FL Studio extensively for 5 years now and even though I love it to death, some
limitations in terms of features slow down my workflow from time to time. That’s why I was really
interested in trying Ableton cause that seems to be the general recommendation for most of the things I’m
missing in FL. After using Ableton for 2 months I can say that Ableton and FL are quite different in a lot of
aspects and in some areas Ableton just takes the lead in my opinion. That being said in many other areas FL
takes the lead and in 99% of the time it just comes down to preference. So here are some things that I think
Ableton excels in and that could find a place in FL.<br>
<br>
Let’s get some of the obvious ones out of the way first:<br>
<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">1) Audio Fades, Clip Gain and a nice browser</strong><br>
<br>
We are getting this so never mind. I actually prefer the way FL is implementing this over Ableton.<br>
<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">2) Warping Audio</strong><br>
<br>
I know this is one of the most requested features for the FL playlist so I won’t comment any further. It’s just
great in Ableton and Newtime as it is right now just feels meh. <br>
<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">3) Comping/take lanes</strong><br>
<br>
Also highly requested and long overdue. Hope this makes it into FL 21.<br>
<br>
<br>
Some more not so obvious ones:<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">4) Groups inside Groups + Automation</strong><br>
<br>
Also highly requested and Shinyless just mentioned that this is being worked on, so that’s nice. Also, the
way Ableton handles automation is just beautiful and being able to just hide all automation with ‘A’ keeps
the whole project extremely organized. Of course, you can also hide your automation in FL with the Groups
feature but this obviously has its limitations when using groups to actually group stuff like drums,
instruments, etc. So having another group inside a group would help with organization and visibility.<br>
<br>
Oh and please finally give us a shortcut for ‘Last tweaked – create automation clip’...<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">5) Everything regarding saving: </strong><br>
o Instrument racks<br>
o effect racks<br>
o whole tracks with its instrument, effect chain and content like midi<br>
o whole projects which can be dragged into new projects<br>
<br>
I just think this is extremely inspiring at times. It’s so cool to for example drag in a whole drum loop that
consists of its original instruments, samples, effect chains etc. instead of just the bounced loop. Since I don’t
think this is necessary to have (even though it’s really neat) FL could take some notes from that saving
system. <br>
I mentioned this before in this forum but I really really want to see the option to save an instrument with its
designated mixer track and all of its content (an instrument rack in Ableton terms). This is just 100 times
faster. Right now I have to save the instrument preset and the mixer channel preset in two separate files,
which is much more inconvenient.<br>
Also please don’t tell me to use patcher for this. I love patcher and I use it for a lot of self-made effect chains
and weird self-made plugins. But most of the time I just want to work in the mixer since this is where FL
shines in my opinion.<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">6) The drumrack</strong><br>
<br>
This completely changed my mind on how I want to layout drums. Its one of the best things in Ableton in my
opinion. The ability to also throw instruments like Kick2, big Kick or whatever synth onto a drum rack pad
is just amazing and makes drum and percussion arrangements extremely easy and inspiring. I really tried to
use FPC multiple times but compared to what other drum sampler softwares offer it feels a bit short and old.
So an update to that would be highly appreciated.<br>
<br>
<strong class="text-strong">7) The utility plugin</strong><br>
<br>
I like to compare this to Fruity balance since they kind of serve the same purpose. But I must admit that
Abletons Utility is just superior in every way. More Gain, Mono – Stereo control, Bass Mono Button, Phase
inversion, etc. etc. Since Fruity Balance is a staple on almost every of my mixer tracks I would really love to
see a small upgrade to it, or just make a new Plugin called Fruitility or whatever that serves this
purpose.<br>
<br>
<br>
I know this may sound like a rant because I just listed features Ableton does better than FL but trust me it’s
not. After using Ableton for 2 months I’m going back to FL because I just feel at home here and I make
music more efficiently in FL. I pretty much prefer the full mixer mixing style and the piano roll is hands
down the best in the business. I’m just giving my 2 cents on what I personally think could be improved on
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