Narasi Sridhar
Narasi Sridhar
Opportunities
Willis Whitney Award Lecture, AMPP Corrosion 2025
by
Narasi Sridhar
MC Consult LLC
The Ohio State University
Acknowledgement
Haynes International Aziz Asphahani, Steve Corey, Paul Crook, Lee Flasche, Galen Hodge, Venky Ishwar,
Dwaine Klarstrom, Juri Kolts, Paul Manning, Bill Silence, Jim Wu
Southwest Research Institute Sean Brossia, Gustavo Cragnolino, Jim Dante, Darius Daruwalla, Darrell Dunn, Sheewa
Feng, Vijay Jain, Marta Jakab, Peter Lichtner, Fred Lyle, Julio Maldonado, Oliver
Moghissi, Roberto Pabalan, Yi Ming Pan, Wes Patrick, Herb Pennick, Osvaldo Pensado,
Budhi Sagar, Nabuo Shiratori, Frank Song, Ben Thacker, Garth Tormoen, Tony Torng, Liz
Trillo, Lietai Yang, John Walton
DNV Arun Agarwal, Francois Ayello, John Beavers, Liu Cao, Sandeep Chawla, Hongbo Cong,
Ken Evans, Ayca Ertekin, Shan Guan, Feng Gui, Peter Friis Hansen, Angeire Huggins-
Gonzalez, Mariano Iannuzzi, Swati Jain, Gerry Koch, Xiaoji Li, Guanlan Liu, Stefan
Marion, Brandon Rollins, Andrea Sanchez Sours, Chris Taylor, Ramgo Thodla, Neil
Thompson, Yumei Zhai
Ohio State University Jerry Frankel, Liu Cao, Mariana Georges, Jiheon Jun, Mariano Kappes, Anup Panindre,
Jinwook Seong, Angeire Huggins-Gonzalez, Chenxi Liu, Vijay Srinivasan
OLI Systems Andre Anderko, Deepti Ballal
Sponsors California Energy Commission, DNV, DoD, DOE, EPRI, NASA, NIST, NRC, PHMSA, PRCI,
SwRI, MTI, WRPS (H2C), Batelle Savannah River Alliance, Various Industrial Consortia
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A special appreciation of my mentor and friend, the late Gustavo Cragnolino
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Why must we live with aging materials?
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• Cumulative hazard function, 𝐻𝐻 𝑡𝑡 = ∫0 ℎ 𝑡𝑡 𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑 = − 𝐿𝐿𝐿𝐿 𝑅𝑅 𝑡𝑡
9 Normal
8
Cumulative Hazard
7
Weibull (2.5,45)
6 Varying scale,location
5
3 Weibull(1.5,45)
2 Exponential
1 Weibull (0.5,45)
0
0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
t, y
SCC of MA 600 steam generators
Staehle and Gorman, Corrosion, 59(11), 931-994
Organizations/Nations/Civilizations
Organisms
Complex social
structures of people, Multifunctional Materials
organisms and assemblages of
materials Complex
molecules and assemblages of
materials atoms and
molecules
Aging of societies, nations, and civilizations
Rome
France
Source: Peter Turchin, Ages of Discord, 2016
China
Certain fundamental mechanisms drive aging of societies that cannot be derived from
historical data alone
Aging in the tree of life
Biodegradable
implants. 0.2 y
Alloy C, > 65 y
Aloha airlines, 19 y
Cumulative Hazard
systems. -1
10
Weibull(0.5,45)
-2
10
• Model failure rates explicitly (corrosion rate, crack growth rates, etc.)
• Successful in well constrained systems over limited time periods
• Works for metal-environment conditions where 𝑝𝑝𝑝𝑝 ≤ 𝑝𝑝𝑝𝑝(𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑𝑑) –
active corrosion
• Does not work for complex systems or when engineered system interacts with
a natural system
3.5 4 mm gap
-5 10
10
2
Current Density, A/cm
8 Bulk
-6
10
pH
6
-7 Mouth
10
4 304L, 600 Grit
Tip
1000 ppm Cl
20 deg. C
-8
10 2
0E+0 2E+5 4E+5 6E+5 8E+5 1E+6 0E+0 2E+5 4E+5 6E+5 8E+5 1E+6
Time, Seconds Time, Seconds
N. Sridhar and D. S. Dunn, Corrosion, 1994, 50(11), 857-872.
Gap, mm
0.4 0.3
Gap, mm
0.3 0.2
0.2 0.1
0.1 0
0
0 0.4 0.8 1.2 1.6 2
0 0.4 0.8 1.2 1.6 2 12
1h
pH
pH
4
8
0.1h
1h
3 10h 0.01h
500h 6 0.001h
Eext = 0.0V vs. SHE
2
Potential (VSCE)
10-3 -0.20 VSCE
10-4 3 -0.30 VSCE
0.5
10-5
10-6 2
0.0
Salt Film No Longer Present
10-7
Repassivation Salt Film
10-8 -0.5 1
0 150000 300000 450000 600000
Time (s)
0
0 2 4 6 8 10
Pit Depth (mm)
• Concentrated metal-chloride solutions affect
repassivation of pits
N. Sridhar and D. S. Dunn, Journal of the Electrochemical Society, 1997, 144(12), 4243-4253.
Experimental Results - 308SS
1.00 0.5
10-1 Pit Base
+0.90 VSCE
Potential (VSCE)
-0.40 VSCE
0.3
10-3 0.25
0.2
0.00
10-4
0.1
-0.25
Repassivation
Al Single pit specimen, Pit depth = 5.25 mm, E= -650 mVSCE, t = 140 hr
307
177
1640
800
Top of pit
521
694
464
AlCl3 salt
1638
1.50 mm
805
from top
1638
523
Intensity, Arbitrary units
195
335
2.50 mm
1638
5.25 mm
529
from top
2.0 M AlCl3
347
1638
532
346
1.0 M AlCl3
805
1638
1062
Bottom of pit
708
929
DI Water (Angle)
2.0
Alloy 825
Erp
1.8
1.6
Ecorr
1.4
1.2
E (SHE)
Critical K
Initial K, MPa.m^0.5
N 8%
CGR Exponent 8%
6%
6%
4% 4%
2% 2%
Mo
Alloy
0 10 20 30 0 100 200
Equival...
Corrosion Potential
CGR, m/s
-0.5..-0.2 13.8% Crack Length,m 1
OCP-Erp 0.0002
-0.2..0 6.3%
0.0001 200
0..0.2 19.7% 1
0 100
0.2..0.8 60.1%
-0.0001 0
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
-100
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
1
1
26
O2, ppm
Growth of fracture limit distribution over time
2000 Time
400
1800
200 Max
1600
0
1400 Mean
-200
1000 -600
-800
800
-1000
600
-1200
400 Min.
-1400
200 -1600
0 -1800
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
-200 -120 -40 40 120 200
Time,d
KIC-K(t), MPa.m0.5 27
Hallmarks of Aging
Leading indicators
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Hallmarks of aging in biological systems
K. Evans, N. Sridhar, B. Rollins, S. Chawla, J. Beavers, and J. Page, Corrosion, 2019, 75(1), 106-119.
Corrosion potential vs. time
t3 t2
t1 t5
t4
Potential
OCP
Potential
OCP
OCP
t4
Time
t5
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Interpretation of corrosion potential must be done carefully
Reference electrode drift
Crevice corrosion
Known corrosion
Unknown
and materials
sequences of
processes
events
(Treated with
(Use Bayesian
uncertainty
networks)
propagation)
Event sequences
Factors and Events Failure Modes Hallmarks of
External environment
Bulk Nanostructure
Aging
Local environment Surface
Microstructure
Aggressive OCP change
Inhibitive ions
ions
Temperature
Local pH Adsorption corrosion
Bulk Alloy Nonuniform
Composition products
Bulk pH corrosion
Pressure
Biofilm Impedance
Passivation change
Speciation
Gases Initiial OCP Localized
Corrosion
Inclusion Current
Reactions depassivation Variations
Deliquescence
Ionic Concentration
HIC GB Segregation
Microbial
Evaporation
Colonies
Point defect
transport deformation mode
HRC Surface
Composition
Flow
Dealloying CF
Increase in
Loading hardness
GB Voids
Summary
• Aging involves increasing hazard rate – but hazard rates cannot be predicted using only data-
based models
• Our knowledge is the key to our ability to predict future performance of aging systems
• Limit state models provide us flexibility in considering a variety of materials and systems