Havana Syndrome - High-Level National Security Officials Stricken With Unexplained Illness On White House Grounds - CBS News
Havana Syndrome - High-Level National Security Officials Stricken With Unexplained Illness On White House Grounds - CBS News
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By Scott Pelley
June 26, 2022 / 6:55 PM EDT / CBS News
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Since 2016, U.S. government officials overseas and their families have reported
sudden, unexplained, brain injuries with symptoms of vertigo, confusion and
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targeting Americans and why are unknown. Incidents have been reported in
Europe, Asia, and Latin America, but, as we first told you in February, our
reporting has found senior national security officials who say they were
stricken in Washington and on the grounds of the White House. The former
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officials you are about to meet are revealing their experiences for the first time.
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They were responsible for helping to manage threats to national security.
Olivia Troye: I covered any and all emerging threats, homeland security
incidents domestically, so I covered whether it was from mass shootings to
hurricanes, natural disasters…
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Olivia Troye: But it was like this piercing feeling on the side of my head, it was
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She steadied herself on a railing but the "piercing feeling" continued as she
passed by an entrance to the West Wing.
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Olivia Troye:
Watch CBS News It was almost like I couldn't really process. It was like a paralyzing
panic attack. I've never had that. I've never felt anything like that. And so I--
you know, I-- I thought to myself, "I mean, do I have a brain tumor out of the
blue? Is this what happens? Am I having a stroke?"
Olivia Troye was inside the security perimeter—headed to her car. She went
down the steps, past the West Wing and down the closed parking lot, used by
presidents, called West Executive Avenue. Then she passed through the Secret
Service gate and out to the staff parking in the Ellipse, south of the White
House.
Scott Pelley: Did you ever experience anything like this again?
Olivia Troye: So not immediately. But I did again about a year later. It didn't
happen on the steps. It happened a couple times walking to my car on the
Ellipse.
Olivia Troye: It was a similar sensation. But this time it was very much the
feeling of vertigo and dizziness. And I felt like I couldn't really walk. There was
sort of-- it was like I had a depth perception issue where I couldn't figure out
where the ground was. And I would start walking. And I felt like I was just
gonna fall right into the ground.
Troye says she didn't report the episodes because she didn't want to believe
she was seriously ill and she worried what it would mean to her security
clearance and career. After this interview she reported for the first time.
Olivia Troye: There is a human aspect of it of shame. And do you really want to
admit you're sick? Do you want to come forward and tell someone that,
especially as a member of the intelligence community? I think I'm still
processing all of it and thinking about, like, how many more people are like me
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It appears there are several. A senior member of the National Security Council
says he was stricken in November 2020, on the same steps by the West Wing.
That former official, whose incident was first reported in the New Yorker,
asked us not to name him. But he described the incident to a close colleague,
John Bolton, former national security adviser.
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John Bolton:
Watch CBS News They had disorientation and ringing in their ears. And just a
general inability to function.
Bolton told us the official said he couldn't speak or think clearly. He was taken
to an emergency room. The former official sent us a note saying that, more
than a year later, "I'm still recovering and suffering from headaches and other
symptoms, and have been diagnosed with two other medical conditions that
are believed to be the result of the attack…" He's still an outpatient at Walter
Reed National Military Medical Center.
John Bolton
John Bolton: That was a very debilitating attack. And similar to what others
have reported.
Those "others" include Miles Taylor, also speaking for the first time. Taylor was
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Miles Taylor: Your job is to oversee the roughly 250,000 men and women of
the department that conduct a range of missions from aviation security to
border security to cybersecurity.
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Miles Taylor: It was late one night in April 2018. I'd just become deputy chief of
staff of the department, taking on some additional sensitive issues at DHS, and
woke up in my apartment that night, a row house on Capitol Hill, to a really
strange sound.
The sound that woke Miles Taylor is a common experience reported by dozens
of Americans stricken overseas.
Miles Taylor: It was sort of a chirping, somewhere between what you would
think is a cricket or sort of a digital sound. I didn't know what it was, but it was
enough to wake me up. What was really strange about it is, I went to the
window, opened up my window, looked down at the street. And keep in mind,
Scott, this is probably 3-- 3:30 in the morning and I see a white van. And the
van's brake lights turned on, and it pulled off and it sped away.
Miles Taylor: This whole episode only lasted about seven to ten minutes.
Miles Taylor: Off. Off, not ready to go to work, you know, kinda wanting to take
the day off, you know, sick.
Miles Taylor: Next day, feeling off balance, feeling just out of it, again, those
sort of concussion-like symptoms you would have from, you know, getting
knocked pretty hard in a sport. And that incident stood out to me, because I
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was actually just getting ready to leave to go to Israel on a congressional
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Netanyahu, have some sensitive conversations with the Israelis on important
cybersecurity issues. And I remember because I got to the airplane at Andrews
Air Force Base to take off and thought, "I'm already nauseous. I don't know if I
can do this flight."
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Miles Taylor
Both Miles Taylor and Olivia Troye became critics of the Trump
administration, but they told us that has nothing to do with what they see as a
potential threat to national security. Taylor says he became alarmed by that
threat in 2018 after he heard of another case like his in the Washington area.
Miles Taylor: I became aware of a U.S. government official more senior than
me who'd experienced similar episodes at their place of residence.
Scott Pelley: You say more senior than you. Are you talking about a cabinet
level secretary?
Miles Taylor: This was an individual that, yes, was roughly at the cabinet level
in the Trump administration who had similar episodes occur. That to me, as a
homeland security professional, was a big blinking red light. I mean, to me this
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Miles Taylor: I can't say the individual outta respect for, you know, their
privacy. I'll leave it at that. But someone senior enough to say, this is more than
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More than a fluke, a pattern across two administrations. Recent injuries among
U.S. officials were reported in Vienna, Austria—ahead of a trip by the vice
president to Vietnam and in India during a visit by the director of the CIA. In
2019, during a visit by President Trump to London, two members of John
Bolton's national security staff became ill in a hotel.
John Bolton: And that it was on the floor where we'd completely taken up with
personnel from the White House and White House agencies struck me as being
pretty good evidence of a deliberate attack.
John Bolton: I don't think there's any other hypothesis when you begin to look
at the number and the pattern that we've experienced.
Bolton says, months later, one of those staff members hurt in London said she
was overcome, again, walking her dog in the Washington area. We have found,
she is not the only one who says they were attacked abroad and, later, at
home.
Scott Pelley: You must have thought that when you were home in America that
you were safe?
Robyn Garfield: I'll tell you, when I landed from China, I literally was kissing
the ground.
We met Robyn Garfield in 2019. He's a Commerce Department official who told
us that he, his wife and two children were repeatedly hit in China.
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Robyn Garfield: My wife catapulted out of bed and sprinted down the hallway
to check the children without any word. And she came back, and she told me
that an extremely loud, painful, sound had woken her up.
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Robyn Garfield: I saw an extremely eerie scene where both were thrashing in
their beds-- asleep. But both kicking and moving pretty aggressively. And I
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heard a very distinct sound, just right there sort of like water rushing. So, I
picked her up, took her and put her with my wife, and I came back and I
checked my son. Same sound just right next to his head. So, I picked him up,
put him on my shoulder, walked over to my wife and I said, "We're getting out
of here."
Garfield reported this to the FBI. Today, his family is posted abroad where they
continue to work to improve balance, eyesight and memory.
Robyn Garfield: This is the most difficult aspect of this whole issue for me are
the children who've been impacted, both mine as well as many others. I
personally know the parents of, I believe, eight other children. I can tell you
I've personally seen balance issues in children that have never had that.
Trouble with finding their words, stuttering. And then continuing challenges
around vision. One of the things that we have heard from some parents is that
these are manifesting in the classroom in real, tangible ways.
Persistent neurological symptoms are not the only fight these Americans have
faced. Some of their early reports were dismissed as psychosomatic, or
illnesses connected to an infection or exposure to pesticides. Some were told
that they were suffering the effect of old sports injuries. One theory had it that
the sound these victims heard during the incidents was actually a particular
species of cicada.
This man is among those who fought for recognition. He's one of the first
cases, from 2016. Americans assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Cuba say they
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and their families were struck at home, frequently, in the night. He remembers
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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: And that night all the dogs started kicking off, in the
neighborhood barking, which was very unusual for them all to go in chorus.
And then this just loud sound just absolutely filled my room. It felt like my
head was slowly starting to get crushed.
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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: And then the severe ear pain started. So, I liken it to
if you put a Q-tip too far and you bounce it off your eardrum. Well, imagine
taking a sharp pencil and just kinda poking that. It was very jarring and
painful. And eventually, I started blacking out.
With the first public reports coming from Cuba the affliction became known as
"Havana Syndrome." More than two dozen embassy officials reported injury,
but an early FBI report speculated it was all mass hysteria. His brain injuries
left him disabled, essentially retired, at the age of 36. A weighted vest helps
him balance. His service dog helps with walking and his loss of vision.
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UNIDENTIFIED
Watch CBS News PERSON: I didn't do my job because I want to be known. I did
my job because I love my country. And I was good at it. God, and I miss my
job. I'm here because I'm tired of the gaslighting that keeps happening from
the US government. I'm tired of this yo-yoing. Because I'm watching new
colleagues and friends that I've trained with, and friends that I've known for
years that are being sent to these countries and coming back a shell of their
former selves. We need to help them, and we need to stop this.
Brain injuries suffered by U.S. officials in Washington and abroad are the focus
of an intense investigation. After starting with around 1,000 possible cases, a
CIA task force has zeroed in on about two dozen that cannot be explained. The
task force, which includes the FBI, is led by a CIA officer who helped find
Osama bin Laden. The director of the CIA, William Burns told us earlier this
year, one thing is already clear. After early disbelief, these injured Americans
can no longer be doubted.
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2016, but this past fall, while on an official visit to India, a member of his staff
was stricken in their hotel. Later, Burns personally escorted that staff member
to medical evaluations.
Scott Pelley: It seems that the Delhi incident might have been intended to send
you a message.
William Burns: I don't know. And as I said, I can't comment on individual cases
here as well. All I can tell you is that each story I've heard, each officer I've met
with who's been affected by this, just redoubles my commitment and my
determination on this issue.
Bill Burns served five presidents at the State Department, rising to the highest
rank in the foreign service. He took over CIA for President Biden, in March of
'21.
William Burns: Early on, I tripled the number of full-time medical personnel
working on this issue. We streamlined access to Walter Reed, established new
partnerships with other world-class medical providers, increased the number
of case managers. And we're also making progress on the investigative side as
well.
Dr. David Relman helped lead two government panels that investigated the
injuries. He's a professor of medicine at Stanford University.
Dr. David Relman: What we found was, we thought clear evidence of an injury
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Dr. David Relman: This subset of cases had a very unusual, so-called acute
sensory event, an experience that consisted of the abrupt onset of intense
pressure or vibration in the face or head sometimes with the abrupt onset of
sound.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: And then this just loud sound just absolutely filled
my room.
This former official, who we agreed not to name, recorded the sound at his
home in Havana. Understand that the sound does not cause the injury, it is a
byproduct. Like the sound of a gun which is not what does the harm.
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Miles Taylor:
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my location.
Dr. David Relman: They left, it dissipated. They returned, it recurred. That to
us was something that we had never heard of, we could not explain by known
medical or environmental conditions, and to us deserved our special attention
in an effort to understand what might be the plausible mechanism.
That mechanism, Dr. Relman's committees concluded, was most likely "pulsed
electromagnetic energy." In other words, a focused beam of microwaves fired
from a distance.
James Benford: I think the best explanation, the most plausible, is that it's a
high-power microwave weapon.
James Benford: There are many kinds, and they can go anywhere in size from a
suitcase all the way up to a large tractor trailer unit. And the bigger the device,
the longer the range.
Scott Pelley: This would be able to transmit its microwave energy through the
wall of a van, the wall of a home, something like that?
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James Benford
The technology, Benford told us, has been studied more than 50 years.
James Benford: It's been developed widely in, perhaps, a dozen countries. The
primary countries are the United States, Russia and China.
The investigation is also trying to understand who could be behind this and
their motive. Microwaves can be a tool for spies. Some devices are capable of
collecting data, remotely, from phones and computers whatever is causing the
brain injuries, a CIA interim report, last January, said there is no evidence of a
massive, global, campaign to attack Americans.
William Burns: Not at all. The intelligence community assesses now that there's
not a single cause that-- it would explain the more than 1,000 incidents that
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Scott Pelley: This is the world's preeminent intelligence agency. Why is this so
hard to figure out?
William Burns: It's a very complicated issue you know, dealing with a whole
range of incidents which have, you know, different kinds of explanations for
them as well. It's a very charged issue emotionally as well. I understand that
very clearly. And that's what, you know, makes me even more determined not
only to ensure people get the care that they deserve, but also that we get to the
bottom of this.
Former national security adviser John Bolton fears there is a threat to the
highest levels of government—given the two national security officials who say
they were overcome on West Executive Avenue by the West Wing inside the
White House gates.
John Bolton: If we were at war and an adversary could disable the president
and his top advisors, or commanders in the field. It could render us
extraordinarily vulnerable. We don't know that that's the threat we're facing.
But I would much rather focus on finding out the answer now, rather than
finding out later when it may be too late.
Former Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor says he believes he was
targeted in two mysterious incidents at his Washington home.
Miles Taylor: Someone is trying to send us a message that they can strike blows
against us and we can't strike back. That line being crossed into the United
States takes this in some ways just shy of the realm of warfare.
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Scott Pelley:
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that an indication that the White House and its grounds are no longer safe?
William Burns: No. I don't believe that's the case. What it is an indication of is
that we need to take each of these reported incidents very seriously. And as a
government-- and this is a government-wide effort-- to pour the very best
resources we have into this.
Scott Pelley: What line is crossed if a hostile actor is doing this in Washington,
D.C.?
William Burns: Oh, that-- that would be a pretty profound line to be crossed if
in fact that were the case; if we were ever able to develop concrete evidence
that that were the case. But we do not have evidence of that at this point.
Scott Pelley: You understand how frustrating your comments must be to some
of these people who believe they know exactly what happened to them, on
what day and at what time, and what happened to their children. And yet, the
director of the CIA is saying we can't connect the dots. We don't know enough
yet.
William Burns: we're not at a position yet where we can offer hard evidence
that would connect all those dots. But as I said, we're not done yet. We still
have a lotta work to do. And what I've said directly to a number of those
officers is my promise, is that I am absolutely committed to exhausting every
alternative so that we can provide the kind of answers that we owe them.
Last summer in Geneva, President Biden raised the issue with Russian
President Putin. The Russians deny they're involved. The Secret Service
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