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Ellen G. White eats meat and oysters


(also herring, duck, chicken, shrimp, and
venison)
This article will show that Ellen G. White
(EGW) was a meat and oyster eating "health
reformer" and that she deceived her followers
into believing that she practiced health reform,
and all the while she was feasting on meat and
oysters.
To excuse Mrs. White’s meat eating because
she was not perfect (and neither were the
Biblical prophets perfect) is not a valid
argument. This argument is a clever attempt to
confuse two separate issues—"moral failures"
with "theological failures." Like us, all of the
prophets sinned and had their moral failures.
EGW had both moral and theological failures.

Has Mrs. White failed the Biblical tests of a


prophet?
Does God reject meat eaters and forbid them
from being teachers as claimed by EGW's
visions?
Is heath reform part of the third Angel's
message?
I have given a time line of EGW's off and on
meat eating habits, and her lies and
condemnation of others that were meat eaters.

Timeline of health reform


1863—Ellen’s Health Reform Vision
EGW: "But since the Lord presented before me,
in June, 1863, the subject of meat eating in
relation to health, I have left the use of meat.
For a while it was rather difficult to bring my
appetite to bread, for which, formerly, I had but
little relish. But by persevering, I have been able
to do this. I have lived for nearly one year
without meat. For about six months most of the
bread upon our table has been unleavened
cakes, made of unbolted wheat meal and water,
and a very little salt. We use fruits and
vegetables liberally. I have lived for eight
months upon two meals a day." Counsels on
Diet and Foods, p. 482.
Note: Ellen says the purpose of this 1863 vision
was "meat eating in relation to health." In this
1863 vision she does not tell us what the
problem is with meat. She just outlines how she
was not using meat in her diet.

1865—EGW's Health Reform Vision becomes


part of the "Third Angel's Message"
EGW: "The health reform, I was shown, is a part
of the third angel's message and is just as
closely connected with it as are the arm and
hand with the human body." —1T, p.486.
Rev 14:9-10 (NIV): A third angel followed them
and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships
the beast and his image and receives his mark
on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will
drink of the wine of God’s fury, which has been
poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.
He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the
presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.
Rev. 22:18 (NIV): I warn everyone who hears the
words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone
adds anything to them, God will add to him the
plagues described in this book.

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reform." God will add the plagues to EGW for
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eaters would be included with those that would
be the punishment for worshiping the beast and
his image. This ought to scare the meat eaters
to conform to EGW's mandates.
I challenge anyone to find in Revelation 14, a
text dealing with "health reform" connected to
the three angels messages.

1868—Prayers do not go high if your children


eats eggs, butter, and meat!
EGW: "You place on your table butter, eggs, and
meat, and your children partake of them. They
are fed with the very things that will excite their
animal passions, and then you come to meeting
and ask God to bless and save your children.
How high do your prayers go?" —2T, p. 362.
Note: Amazing. Twenty-nine years later God
showed EGW it was now OK to feed eggs to a
sick child and "excite the animal passions". Also
there would be no point in praying for this child
because he ate eggs three times a day. Wow!
EGW: "I dreamed of having the care of a child
that was weak, and seemed unable to rally. I
thought the same physician stood by the cradle,
and said, 'Have you any wine in the house? Beat
up a raw egg and give it to the child with grape
wine three times a day. He will rally. Letter 112a,
1897.
Note: Throughout the Bible, God’s people ate
butter, eggs and meat in the Old and New
Testament. Did God hear and answer their
prayers? Of course he did. Did Jesus and the
people of the Bible really have their animal
passions excited when they ate meat, eggs and
butter? But in 1863 God let Adventists in on this
little secret! Adventists, do your duty and warn
your neighbors.
Does a vegetarian have a better chance of
not having their animal passions excited than a
meat eater? Where do we find in the Word that
these foods are harmful and by eating them our
prayers will not ascend to heaven?
Ellen in condemning others condemned
herself. Her animal passions must have really
been excited when she ate fish, venison,
chicken, duck and oysters. Her prayers were not
ascending to heaven because she ate meat.

1870—Eating turkey or other meats perverts


your appetites
EGW: "Those who digress occasionally to
gratify the taste in eating a fattened turkey or
other flesh meats, pervert their appetites, and
are not the ones to judge the benefits of the
system of health reform. They are controlled by
taste, not by principle." — Counsels on Diet and
Foods, p. 399.
Note: When you ask God to bless your
Thanksgiving turkey, also ask him to prevent
you from having a perverted appetite. Meat
eating Adventists, do you really believe you
have perverted appetite by eating turkey?
Ellen more than digressed occasionally to
eat meat. By her own words, she must have had
a "perverted appetite" that was controlled "by
taste and not principle" because of her meat
eating. Where does the Bible tell us that eating
meat perverts the appetite?
God tells us that we can eat anything sold in
the meat market. Did Jesus and all the people
of the Bible have perverted appetites because
they were given meat to eat by God?
1 Cor 10:25 (NIV): "Eat anything sold in the
meat market without raising questions of
conscience,"
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1870—People that use meat and butter are


backslidden
EGW: "One family in particular have needed all
the benefits they could receive from the reform
in diet, yet these very ones have been
completely backslidden. Meat and butter have
been used by them quite freely and spices have
not been entirely discarded." —2T, p 485.
Note: Ellen’s definition of a faithful health
reformer was that she could eat meat whenever
it was convenient for her to do so. When others
did so she called them backslidden. To me it is
amazing that Bible believing Christians cannot
see EGW was a Health Reform Hypocrite. And
not only that, but she contradicted the Bible.

1871—Ellen and James eat venison every day


EGW: When we were down in Texas, and old
Brother White was breaking down, (Sister White)
just got the most beautiful venison every day to
eat, and my wife would cook it, and he would sit
down and say ‘O Ellen, that is just the thing!’
She never did hold him up and make him live on
a diet of starch! A. G. Daniells,— Spectrum,
"1919 Bible Conference," p. 41.
EGW: Christmas morning we all took breakfast
together—James Cornell; Florence and Clara,
their two girls; Brother and Sister Moore and
their three children; Sister Bahler and Etta, a girl
living with them; and Sister Daniells, our cook,
Father, and myself. We had a quarter of venison
cooked, and stuffing. It was as tender as a
chicken. We all enjoyed it very much. There is
plenty of venison in market. (Written December
26, 1878, from Denison, Texas, to "Dear Family
at Battle Creek--Willie, Mary, Aunt Mary, Edith,
Addie and May, and Brother and Sister Sawyer.")
—Manuscript Releases, Volume Fourteen, p.
318. Letter 23, 1878.
Note: Ellen and James sure enjoyed health
reform as they ate venison.

1871—God Sanctifies health reformers


(vegetarians)
EGW: "The apostle Paul exhorts the church, "I
beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies
of God, that ye present your bodies a living
sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is
your reasonable service." Men, then, can make
their bodies unholy by sinful indulgences. If
unholy, they are unfitted to be spiritual
worshipers, and are not worthy of heaven. If
man will cherish the light that God in mercy
gives him upon health reform, he may be
sanctified through the truth, and fitted for
immortality. But if he disregards that light, and
lives in violation of natural law, he must pay the
penalty." —Counsels on Diet and Foods, p. 70.
Note: Ellen twisted Paul’s counsel on presenting
your bodies as a living sacrifice to include her
"health reform" message. Where does the Bible
tell us in order to be sanctified, a person must
accept health reform? This is salvation by
works. It is Jesus Christ that sanctifies us, not
EGW's "health reform".
If Paul were living today he would be
condemned by EGW as living in violation of
natural law having a perverted appetite and not
fit to stand for the truth, as Paul was a meat
eater. Tell me that God did not sanctify Paul!
1873—Whites have wild duck and deer for
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for supplies. We are getting short of provisions.
We got him the best we could for his meals on
the way. He was to send Mr. Walling
immediately and to get our mail. A young man
from Nova Scotia had come in from hunting. He
had a quarter of deer. He had traveled 20 miles
with this deer upon his back. The remainder of
the deer he had left hung up in the woods. He
saw six elk but did not try to shoot them as he
knew he could not carry them out. He gave us a
small piece of the meat, which we made into
broth. Willie shot a duck which came in a time
of need, for our supplies were rapidly
diminishing. —Manuscript 11, 1873. Ellen G.
White Estate, Washington, D.C. April 11, 1985
(Written in the Colorado mountains, diary entry
for September 28, 1873.)

1874—Ellen and James gave up meat


EGW letter to Willie White: Your father and I
have dropped milk, cream, butter, sugar, and
meat entirely since we came to California. We
are far clearer in mind and far better in body. We
live very plainly. We cannot write unless we do
live simply. Your father bought meat once for
May while she was sick, but not a penny have
we expended on meat since..." —Manuscript
Release #1128; Letter 12, 1874; Manuscript
Release, Volume 14, p. 322.

1876—EGW did not know fish was meat


EGW wrote to her traveling husband: “We have
not had a particle of meat in the house since
you left and long before you left. We have had
salmon a few times. It has been rather high [in
price].” Letter 13, 1876, cited in MR, vol. 14, p.
336.
EGW: Two years ago I came to the conclusion
that there was danger in using the flesh of dead
animals, and since then I have not used meat at
all. It is never placed on my table. I use fish
when I can get it. We can get beautiful fish from
the saltwater lake near here. I use neither tea nor
coffee. As I labor against these things, I cannot
but practice that which I know to be best for
health, and my family are all in perfect harmony
with me. You see, my dear niece, that I am
telling you matters just as they are. 14MR 330

1879—EGW has beef tea for breakfast


EGW: I remained on deck until dark, and then
went into the cabin, where the pitching of the
boat made me very sick. This was on Monday,
and I was unable to sit up from that time until
Thursday morning, taking but once during that
time a little beef tea and cracker. We had a
strong head wind against us all the way from
San Francisco, and we were all rejoiced when,
on Thursday morning, we passed the bar, and
entered the smooth river, leaving the restless
billows behind us. —The Signs of the Times,
July 18, 1878. T 4, p.289.

1880—EGW has chicken broth rorbreakfast


EGW: Thursday morning we arose from our
births refreshed with sleep. At eight o'clock we
took a portion of the pressed chicken furnished
us by the matron of the sanitarium, put the
same in a two-quart pail, and placed it on the
stove, and thus we had good hot chicken broth
and enjoyed our breakfast. The morning was
very cold and this hot dish was very palatable.
—Ellen's (Letter 6a, 1880) to Her Sister
Elizabeth, Manuscript Release, Volume Eleven,
page 142, paragraph 3. Chapter Title:
Geographical descriptions and travel in the
Western U. S.
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1880—EGW condemns a Battle Creek youth for
eating oysters
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EGW: "...OYSTERS or other refreshments are
called for, and he is ashamed to draw away and
refuse the treat..."— 4T p. 435.
Two years later in 1882 Ellen has added "a few
cans of Oysters" to her grocery list.

1882—Ellen's menu of herring and oysters


—Manuscript Release No. 852: The
Development of Adventist Thinking, page 2, by
Ron Graybill.
Once when Ellen White was ill, her son, W. C.
White, reports that she was encouraged to drink
a little oyster broth to settle her stomach. She is
said to have tried a spoonful or two, but then
refused the rest. Arthur L. White, "Dietary
Witness of the Ellen G. White Household,"
Unpublished Paper, Washington, D.C. (1978), p.
15
There is however, evidence that at one point
in her life Ellen White most likely ate some
oysters.
In 1882, when she was living at Healdsburg,
California, she wrote a letter to her daughter-in-
law, Mary Kelsey White, in Oakland, in which
she included a "shopping list" of things to bring
on their next visit to Mrs. White's home. Among
the things requested: "Mary, if you can get me a
good box of herrings, fresh ones, please do so.
These last ones that Willie got are bitter and old.
If you can buy cans, say, half a dozen cans, of
good tomatoes, please do so. We shall need
them. If you can get a few cans of good oysters,
get them." —Letter 16, 1882.

1888—I do not preach onething and practice


another
EGW: "I do not preach one thing and practice
another. I do not present to my hearers rules of
life for them to follow while I make an exception
in my own case...." —Selected Messages Book
2, p. 302. Letter 12, 1888.
Note: This was one of the many lies told by
Ellen White. She made exceptions for herself as
she feasted on meat and oysters while
condemning others for eating meat.

1890—Those waiting for the coming of the


Lord are vegetarians
EGW: "Among those who are waiting for the
coming of the Lord, meat eating will eventually
be done away: flesh will cease to form a part of
their diet." —Counsels on Diet and Foods, p.
380.
Note: If the Bible only is your rule of faith,
please tell me where I can find in the Word, that
those waiting for the Lord’s return will be
vegetarians? Are all the Christians in the world
living before Jesus returns going to be
vegetarians?

1891—EGW eats oysters again—also "bloody"


beefsteak and shrimp
The following is a letter by Fannie Bolton
who was EGW's secretary, to Mrs. E. C. Slawson,
of an incident that took place on the day, in
1891, when Fannie and EGW sailed for
Australia.
Fannie Bolton: "...I have been as they say
'through the mill.' I became an Adventist in
Chicago under the labors of G. B. Starr, and was
very zealous for what is called 'Present Truth.' I
truly believed it was the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth, and lived up to the
testimonies with all faithful­ness discarding
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original writings at the time which would have
been more to my taste; but waived everything to
go with the 'prophet.'...I left to go with Sr. White
on the very day when my brother was to be
married. At the depot Sr. White was not with her
party, so Eld. Starr hunted around till he found
her behind a screen in the restaurant very
gratified in eating big white raw oysters with
vinegar, pepper and salt. I was overwhelmed by
this inconsistency and dumb with horror. Eld.
Starr hurried me out and made all sort of
excuses and justifications of Sr. White's action;
yet I kept thinking in my heart, 'What does this
mean? What has God said? How does she dare
eat these abominations?' On the cars out to
California, W. C. White came into the train with a
great thick piece of bloody beefsteak spread out
on a brown paper and he bore it through the
tourist car on his own two hands. Sarah
McEnterfer who is now with Sr. White as her
attendant, cooked it on a small oil stove and
everyone ate of it except myself and Marian
Davis who I found out afterwards was more the
author of the books purported to be Sr. White's
than she was her­self. I was with Mrs. White for
seven and a half years like a soul on a rock,
because of all kinds of inconsistencies,
injustices, and chicaneries. I have seen Sr. White
eat meat, chicken, fish, fowl, shrimps, rich cake,
pies, etc. etc. I cannot go into detail but Sr.
Daniells told me she herself had cooked meat
for Sr. White on the campground. Eld. Horn told
me his wife had done the same thing. Sr.
Rousseau told me that she too had done so.
Dear Sister, Sr. White has written that when we
do not live up to the testimonies we re­tract
them. She has vitiated (made lifeless) her own
claims..." —Letter from Fannie Bolton to Mrs. E.
C. Slawson, Dec. 30, 1914, as quoted in The
Fannie Bolton story, pp. 107,109.
G. B. Starr: Denies EGW Eating Oysters. "
Regarding the letter, or statement supposed to
have been made by Miss Fannie Bolton…I can
only say that I regard it as the most absurdly,
untruthful lot of rubbish that I have ever seen or
read regarding our dear Sister white. The event
simply never occurred. I never saw your mother
eat oysters or meat of any kind either in a
restaurant or at her own table. Fannie Bolton's
statement that 'Elder Starr hunted around till he
found her behind a screen in the restaurant of
the station where she was apparently very
gratified in eating big white raw oysters with
vinegar, pepper and salt,' is a lie of the first
order. I never had such an experience and it is
too absurd for anyone who ever knew your
mother to believe. Of course you will know how
true the story of the 'bloody beefsteak' spread
on a brown paper, and carried into the tourist
car and cooked by Miss McEnterfer, is. I do not
believe that either. I think this entire letter was
written by Fannie in one of her most insane
moments…" — Letter from G. B. Starr to W. C.
White, August 20, 1933, as quoted in The Fannie
Bolton Story, p. 1.
Willie White: In response to Elder G. B. Starr's
letter, Willie White admits His mother ate
beefsteak but was careful to not comment on
her eating oysters. "I am glad for what you have
said about the strange story told by Fannie
Bolton in which she claimed that she saw Mrs.
White eating oysters… Regarding the beefsteak
story, I will tell you in a few words the facts…
Sister White's appetite failed…I went out and
purchased two or thee pounds of beefsteak and
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Sister White decided at the time of the
Melbourne campmeeting to be a teetotaler in
regards to the eating of flesh foods. When I see
you, I will tell you more about the instances in
which the White family partook of flesh meats
on long journeys and on camp-meeting
expeditions…I regard the story about Sister
White eating oysters in a railway restaurant as
an unwarranted fabrication…—" Letter From W.
C. White to G. B. Starr, Aug. 24, 1933, as quoted
in The Fannie Bolton Story', p. 119.
Note: Starr lied about EGW eating beefsteak, so
why would he not lie about EGW eating oysters?
EGW never denied Fannie Bolton's story and
neither did Sara McEnterfer who was present.

1894—EGW gives up meat—It took her rrom


1863 to 1894, 31 years to become a vegetarian
EGW: "Since the campmeeting at Brighton I
have absolutely banished meat from my table.
It is an understood thing that whether I am at
home or abroad, nothing of this kind is to be
used by my family, or come upon my table. I
have had some representations before my mind
in the night season on this subject that I feel
that I have done right in banishing meat from
my table. I would desire that the sentence
should be modified by changing the "not"—"Yet
I would not take the position that meat be
wholly discarded by everyone."—for instance,
by those dying of consumption." —1894:
Spalding and Magan Collection, p. 81,
paragraph 1.
Note: EGW stopped eating meat not because of
health reform visions from God, but because of
a Catholic lady kneeling at her feet.
EGW: I have a large family which often numbers
sixteen. In it there are men who work at the plow
and who fell trees. These men have vigorous
exercise, but not a particle of flesh of animals is
placed upon our table. Meat has not been used
by us since the Brighton camp-meeting (held in
1894). It was not my purpose to have it on my
table at any time, but urgent pleas were made
that such an one was unable to eat this or that,
and that his stomach could take care of meat
better than it could of anything else; then I was
enticed to place it on my table. The use of
cheese also began to creep in, because some
liked cheese. But I soon controlled that. But
when the selfishness of taking the lives of
animals to gratify a perverted appetite, was
presented to me by a Catholic woman, kneeling
at my feet, I felt ashamed and distressed; I saw
it in a new light, and I said, "I will no longer
patronize the butcher; I will not have the flesh of
corpses on my table." —Testimony Studies on
Diet and Foods, page 67, paragraph 6 Chapter
Title: Flesh Foods
Note: Ellen was eating oysters and meat as late
as 1894. She died in 1915. So she ate meat
most of her life. Ellen White went from the
reason to abstain from meat because of health
reasons she received in vision in 1863 to that of
a guilty conscience from an argument for not
killing animals from a Catholic lady after 1894.

1898—EGW tells us after years of her eating


meat, that meat eating is not good for morals
(What about the disciples and Jesus that ate
fish and the Passover lamb, were they too
lacking in morals?)
EGW: The light has come to me for many years
that meat eating is not good for health or
morals. And yet it seems so strange that I have
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Stanmore, I felt urged by the Spirit of the Lord, to
take up the case of the Health Home
established at Summer Hill, which is only a few
stations from Stanmore. Counsels on Diet and
Foods, page 413, paragraph 3 , letter 84, 1898.
Note: EGW's meat eating really perverted her
morals with her lies and stealing the works of
others and making a living off of it and doing
this in cooperation with God. What a hypocrite.

1899—EGW gave her Papal proclamation that


meat eaters cannot represent truth and they
reject God
EGW: "…those that do not accept the light that
God has given on health reform, who subsist on
the flesh of dead animals…can not represent
the truth to others. —In a testimony to Elders
Irwin, Prescott, Waggoner, and Jones, February
21, 1899.
Note: In 1899, EGW uses health reform (meat
eating) as a measuring stick to judge a person's
fitness to represent truth. Ellen ate meat and
oysters after having light from God in 1863. She
ate meat till 1894. By condemning others she
unwittingly condemned herself of not being
qualified to "REPRESENT" truth and "REJECTED
GOD" by eating the flesh of dead animals. EGW
could not get the logjam out of her own eye and
had the nerve to judge others. What a hypocrite!
I ask you, where does the Word of God give
this doctrine? God says those that eat meat give
thanks to the Lord as well as the one that does
not (a vegetarian) both give thanks.

Rom 14:6 (NIV) "He who regards one day as


special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat,
eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and
he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives
thanks to God."

1900—Meat eaters cannot be a teacher


EGW: "No man should be set apart as a teacher
of the people while his own teaching or example
contradicts the testimony God has given His
servants to bear in regard to diet…His disregard
of health reform unfits him to stand as the
Lord’s messenger…" — 6T, p. 378.
Note: A few months later, A. G. Daniells a life
long meat eater was made president of the
General Conference of SDA with the approval of
Ellen G. White. As you can see Ellen only
protested when it was to her advantage. With
this pronouncement she condemned herself as
being unfit TO "stand as the Lord's messenger".
She indeed was a health reform hypocrite.
Where does the Word of God give the
instructions that a meat eater is unfit to stand
as the Lord’s messenger? Does it not seem
strange that Christians from the time of Christ
stood as the Lord’s messengers and ate meat?
Then in 1863 God changed his mind and
declared them unfit according to Ellen G. White?

1903—Those that reject EGW's health reform


reject God
EGW: God gave the light on health reform, and
those that reject it reject God." — Series B, No. 6,
p. 31. EGW address to the General Conference
in Oakland, published in the General Conference
Bulletin, 1903, pp. 84-88.

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not followed the principles of health reform as I
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that I have been a faithful health reformer.
Those who have been members of my family
know that this is true." —Councils on Diet and
Foods, page 494.
Note: EGW's 1909 report that "she was a faithful
health reformer" was not true, unless she means
that she can eat meat and oysters whenever she
chooses.

1902—Meat eaters will leave God's people


EGW: "Many who are now only half converted
on the question of meat eating will go from
God’s people to walk no more with them."
—Councils on Diet and Foods, p. 382.
Note: This is an example how Ellen regarded
only the Seventh-day Adventist Church as God’s
people and not the rest of the Christian
community. EGW's magic formula is be a
vegetarian and you can walk with the SDAs.
Ellen failed to mention that vegetarians
would also leave God’s people (the Adventist
Church), to walk no more with them. Is it no
wonder those that were half converted on the
question of meat eating would leave and not
come back? They would leave because EGW's
health reform is not a biblical test and a false
doctrine. There has been many meat eaters as
well as vegetarians that have left Adventism but
are still walking with God’s people in churches
outside Adventism. This is one of many failed
EGW prophecies.

EGW contradicts the Bible about Daniel and his


friends not eating meat
EGW: This request was not preferred in a
defiant spirit, but was solicited as a great favor.
. . . Daniel and his companions . . . were
courteous, kind, respectful, possessing the
grace of meekness and modesty. And now as
Daniel and his fellows were brought to the test,
they placed themselves fully on the side of
righteousness and truth. They did not move
capriciously, but intelligently. They decided that
as flesh meat had not composed their diet in
the past, neither should it come into their diet in
the future. And as the use of wine had been
prohibited to all those who should engage in the
service of God, they determined that they would
not partake of it. . . .In Heavenly Places, page
261.
Note: Did Daniel and his companions as a good
Jews never eat the Passover lamb in the past
and never in the future as claimed by EGW?
They also were required by the law/Torah to eat
the Passover Lamb. Daniel and his friends did
eat meat and drank wine after "the three weeks
were over."
Dan 10:2-3 (NIV): At that time I, Daniel, mourned
for three weeks. I ate no choice food; no meat or
wine touched my lips; and I used no lotions at
all until the three weeks were over.

Tests of a true prophet


Deu 18:20 (NIV) "But a prophet who presumes
to speak in my name anything I have not
commanded him to say, or a prophet who
speaks in the name of other gods, must be put
to death.""
Deu 18:21 (NIV) "You may say to yourselves,
"How can we know when a message has not
been spoken by the LORD?""
Deu 18:22 (NIV) "If what a prophet proclaims in
the name of the LORD does not take place or
come true, that is a message the LORD has not
spoken. That prophet has spoken
presumptuously. Do not beOpen
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of him."

EGW's "health
Ellen reform visions"
lies'sfail the Bible test
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of a true prophet
Does God say a person cannot represent truth to
others if they are a meat eater? No
Does God forbid meat eaters from being a
teacher? No
Does God tell us that vegetarians will be the
ones awaiting the Lord’s return? No. In fact
Christians have been waiting for the Lord’s
return for 2000 years. Most have been meat
eaters.
Does God ever describe people that eat meat,
butter and spices as "backslidden"? No.
There is no problem with Ellen eating meat
and oysters because the Christians of the New
Testament were not forbidden to eat meat or
unclean meat. These were laws were for Israel
under the old covenant. New covenant
Christians were never forbidden to refrain from
eating unclean meat.
The only probation dealing with meat eating
was not to eat the blood and meat from
strangled animal.
Acts 21:25 (NIV) "As for the Gentile believers, we
have written to them our decision that they
should abstain from food sacrificed to idols,
from blood, from the meat of strangled animals
and from sexual immorality.""
The early Christian church did not prohibit
eating unclean animals. When Gentiles came
into the Christian church there was not any
controversy over them eating unclean meat.
Laws forbidding eating unclean animals in the
OT were not a health issue. It was to separate
God's covenant people Israel, from the Gentiles.

(Mark 7:19 NIV) "For it doesn’t go into his heart


but into his stomach, and then out of his body."
(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.
")"
(Rom 14:14 NIV) "As one who is in the Lord
Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is
unclean in itself. But if anyone regards
something as unclean, then for him it is
unclean."
(1 Cor 10:25 NIV) "Eat anything sold in the meat
market without raising questions of conscience,
"
(1 Cor 10:26 NIV) "for, "The earth is the Lord’s,
and everything in it.""
(1 Cor 10:27 NIV) "If some unbeliever invites you
to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is
put before you without raising questions of
conscience."

Conclusion
Salvation is through faith and not by works
of diet such as health reform by Ellen G. White.
By accepting Ellen’s health reform message as
gospel, you hold EGW teachings above the
Bible.
This false teaching has created ill feelings
between church members as people are
checking on a person’s diet to see if they were
faithful to EGW. How does all this harmonize
with Romans 14:17?
Rom 14:17 (NIV) "For the kingdom of God is not
a matter of eating and drinking, but of
righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,"
Believe God's Word!
Ellen White was not a faithful health
reformer as she claimed. She made it her
crusade to reprimand ministers and other for
eating meat as being a message from God. This
makes her a false prophet as she contradicts
CENT LYK HEM JESUS and 13 others
the Bible.
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Nicola Grant
You're really sick. She stopped. God
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White's lies's post things to
or revealed
me when I came back to him. Does
that mean I'm a hypocrite...? She
struggled with vinegar but overcame
and same with everything else. The
health message came after the
sabbath message. I can't recall when.
She says nothing that is not in line
with the bible. If you understand the
bible,, your don't nac her writing. You
clearly need to do more prayer and
reading of the bible underv the HS

2 yrs 2

Oscar E. Romero Jr.


Nicola Grant I'm sorry, but Sister
white failed the test of a true
prophet.

2 yrs

Ashley Sheridan
https://www.bible.ca/7-white-
inpsired-100-pastors-fired.htm

Since then there has been hundreds


of leaders who have left due to the
SDA cult's doctrinal errors.

bible.ca

104 Adventist Pastors fired


for rejecting the inspiration

5 yrs 4

Clarice Harepa
Very informative .God bless you.

4 yrs

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