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 PART I
UNDERSTANDING AND GETTING
RID OF
THE VOICES SCHIZOPHRENICS HEAR
By Dr. J. / Jerry Marzinsky BA M.Ed
July 18, 2016

This is the first of six articles based

on 35 years of intense front line
experience with schizophrenic
patients in a variety of settings. You
will most likely not find this
information in text books. The
multi part series I will be posting to
this site is to help families and those
working with schizophrenic patients
understand what is going on with
them.

Schizophrenia is one of the top ten

health problems on the planet at
present. Current medical practice
has no cure and at best can only
drug these patients to temporarily
suppress psychotic symptoms. They
continue to bark up the wrong tree
with their theory that the
schizophrenic's brain is chemically
out of balance for which they have
no solid proof and that the voices
are hallucinations. With the
assumption that the voices are
hallucinations they have not studied
them as I have.

The voices these people hear are

NOT hallucinations. They are
separate and very different from
who the patient is. They have a
separate will and volition of their
own which is not of the patient.
They are NOT who the patient is.
Although the medical establishment
insists the voices that these patients
hear are hallucinations, if one were
to take a closer look and actually
question these patients about the
content of what they are hearing
instead of just blowing them off and
ignoring everything they have to say
about their own condition and
experiences, one would see that
they are all saying the same things
about the voices they hear.

Now if they were hallucinations,

wouldn't they be random as
hallucinations are, some negative,
some positive, some total nonsense
and everything in between, as
individual as the person
experiencing them? But according
to the hundreds of schizophrenic
patients I've worked with over 35
years, the voices are anything but
random.
They are constantly negative,
abusive, derogatory, nasty,
insulting, and demeaning, ALWAYS.
If you have a family member who is
suffering from schizophrenia, ask
them for yourselves.

They tell these patients not to trust

anyone. They command these
patients do so and say things that
get them into trouble and alienate
and isolate them from others. They
tell these patients to do all kinds of
things that sabotage any positive
progress they may be making. If
you have a schizophrenic family
member you might wonder why
they continually stop taking their
medications despite their knowing
how much trouble and the intense
problems this behavior causes for
all associated with them (see Part
III).

One must understand that there is

absolutely no positive outcome for
schizophrenics who hear voices to
speak about them or what they are
saying to them. They have already
experienced frightened friends and
relatives avoiding them when they
brought up the topic. There are few
if any who understand what they
are really going through and what
they are hearing. Psychiatry does
these patients a grave injustice by
telling them that their brains are
broken and that they are sick and
hallucinating.
Once these patients comprehend
that the voices they hear are a
foreign insertion, something very
different from who and what they
are and don't accept the voices they
hear as thoughts which belong to
them, there is an immediate relief
when they understand that they are
not fighting against themselves but
something very different from who
and what they are, something
which is constantly trying to
convince them that the negative,
self-destructive thoughts they are
experiencing belong to them and
are in fact them.

The fact that these things are

different from who the patient is
can be seen when these patients
are questioned about the trouble
they have gotten into by listening to
these "voices.” Hundreds of times
after my schizophrenic patients had
gotten into trouble after listening to
the voices, I would sit them down
and ask, "Was it your intent to do
this thing and get yourself into so
much trouble?” The invariable
answer was "no."

The question must then be asked,

"Then whose intention was it?"
One of the first things these
patients must understand if they
are going to recover is that the
voices they hear are real, and not
hallucinations. They do not belong
to them but are separate and apart
from who they are. They do not
have the patient's best interest at
heart by a long shot.

Everything the voices tell them

about themselves is a lie not to be
believed. The voices hate everyone
including themselves. They will do
everything possible to isolate the
patient from family, friends and
anyone trying to help them. They
command patients to behave in
self-destructive ways that create
hatred, anxiety, fear, turmoil and
negativity. They are constantly
filling the minds of their victims
with subversive information about
family, husbands, wives or
girlfriends often telling the patient
that the other is cheating on them,
talking behind their backs etc.

The bottom line is THE VOICES ARE

VERY REAL AND VERY DANGEROUS.
The suicide rate for schizophrenic
patients is significantly higher than
the normal population. Many
scores of patients have told me that
the voices have told them that they
are ugly, stupid and useless, a
burden on everyone around them
and that everyone would be greatly
relieved if they would just kill
themselves. I've heard this
hundreds and hundreds of times.
I would be the first to admit reality
in this case is stranger than fiction.
For the naysayers out there I would
strongly advise you to not just listen
to what I'm telling you but to ask
these patients for yourselves if what
you are reading here isn't true.

The voices are very real and run

well established and predictable
patterns unlike hallucinations. The
first step in the patient getting well
is to understand that the voices are
not hallucinations. They are not
coming from inside the patient’s
mind. Rather, they are separate,
hateful and destructive. Great relief
comes once the patient
understands this.

And don't think that schizophrenics

are the only victims of these things.
They get us all to different degrees
by inserting negative self-defeating
and anxiety-provoking thoughts
into our minds. Don't believe it?

Think about the last time you were

strolling along minding your own
business and all of a sudden a
horrible, disgusting, revolting
thought blasted into your mind to
do or say something that you would
never do or say and were even
shocked that you could even have
such a thought. This has happened
to all of us at one time or another.
The first thing we wonder is,
“Where did that come from?” It
came from an outside source that
doesn’t belong to us and is not a
part of you.

The second year I was in an APA

approved Ph.D. psychology I got
myself in trouble by asking the head
of the department during a lecture
where thoughts came from. He
reacted as if I had asked him where
a candle flame goes when you blow
it out. He had no idea, said he
would speak to me after the lecture
but left the room quickly. We are
similar to radios. The radio waves
do not come from the radio, we
tune into specific frequencies to
pick up different transmissions.
Schizophrenics are tuned to a very
ugly, fearful and dangerous
frequency and the station selector
knob is broken and unmovable.

Again, I advise you to not take my

word for it, check out what I am
telling your for yourself. Ask your
patients or those of you with family
members afflicted with this dread
mental disorder, ask them. The
voices run very specific, predictable
patterns that don't vary significantly
from patient to patient. I'll try to
post one section a week with the
sincere wish that this information
gathered over many intense years
of front line work in the mental
health field will be of help to both
the families and victims of this
dread malady.

One of the first of many odd

behaviors I witnessed on the part of
my schizophrenic patients came to
my attention shortly after I started
work at one of the largest
psychiatric hospitals on the planet:
They consistently chose to remain
on the dingy wards rather than
attending church services.

This was despite the fact that those

who went to church not only got a
pleasant walk through massive
trees, fresh air and sunshine but
they were often rewarded with
cookies and ice cream after the
services.

Patients with other psychiatric

diagnoses had no problems
attending church services and
enjoying the associated benefits.
Upon realizing this odd behavior
among my schizophrenic patients
was consistent, I began to ask
questions.

“Why are you choosing to remain

behind in the dingy wards turning
up your nose to sunshine, fresh air
and ice cream?”

There were a variety of responses.

The most common of which were, "I
don't believe in God, he's never
helped me" and, "I just don't like it
there."

I was curious. Some hadn't been to

church in years and attending
wasn't even a consideration. What
possible attraction could a dull
bland ward have in the face of cake
and ice cream?

Some of my schizophrenic patients

who had tried to attend services
said that they experienced a
marked increase in anxiety even
thinking about it. I began to ask
questions about what triggered
anxiety attacks so powerful as to
overcome warm sunshine, a walk in
nature and free ice cream and cake.

After months of questioning, one

after another they told me the
voices they were hearing in their
heads grew significantly louder and
more agitated even at the mere
thought of going to church. Once
they physically entered the church,
the voices became so loud and
intense they couldn't bear it and
had to get up and leave. Others,
determined to stay said the voices
were so loud they couldn't make
out what the preacher was saying.

Over time, the very same reports

were coming in from patients who
had never seen or spoken to one
another. What was it the voices
were telling them? Among the
various derogatory remarks they
directed against the church and the
preacher, the voices consistently
repeated two primary things:
"Church is a bunch of crap, there is
no God." and, "What makes you
think Jesus is going to save you?.
He couldn't even save himself."

Although psychiatry staunchly

insisted the voices were
nonsensical, meaningless
hallucinations what I was
experiencing first hand was very
different. I found that if these
patients were allowed to speak of
their experiences without judgment
and without the chains of
preconception, the first hand
information they reported was
contrary to the label of
hallucinations taught by the Ivory
Tower of psychiatric education.

True hallucinations are random.

Whatever the voices were, they
were far from random and
consistently negative. What kind of
hallucination would consistently
drive these patients out of church
or preventing them from even
attending which interfered with
their hearing something positive
that could markedly help them?
Curiously, some patients said that
upon entering church, their voices
went totally silent and remained
quiet until they left.

Finding these reports perplexing, I

increased my questioning of both
groups. It slowly became clear that
those schizophrenics who were
driven out of the church and
bombarded so intensely by the
voices they could not concentrate
on the sermon, more often than not
were plagued by a multitude of very
strong voices.

On the other hand, patients who

said their voices went silent after
entering church were often found
to be dealing with a single negative
voice which was either not very
strong in the first place or had been
weakened by medications.

However this was not the rule,

there were those who reported a
single negative voice being so
strong it was capable of increasing
their anxiety level to the point
where they actually ran out of the
church hoping to shut them up.

After interviewing scores of these

patients there was not a single,
solitary report of their voices ever
encouraging them to read the Bible,
attend church services or partake of
any other positive spiritual activity.
Whatever these things were, they
were unidirectional and those
directions were negative.

The definition of hallucinations is

that they are random in nature, but
these voices were not random at
all. What was it that held the voices
on such a consistent and
unswerving negative trajectory?
What held them on such an
unswerving negative course?

I began to wonder how the voices

responded to those few
schizophrenic patients who owned
Bibles and attempted to read them
(see Part IV).

Again, as with all this information, I

strongly encourage those of you
who are dealing with schizophrenic
individuals who hear voices not take
my word for anything being said
here. Drop your preconceptions and
go see for yourselves. I've moved
all around the country and dealt
with schizophrenic patients from
one side to the other. The voices
these individuals hear are exactly
the same from one geographical
location to another.

Ask these poor souls about their

voices and what those voices are
telling them. Ask them what the
reaction of their voices is to their
reading the Bible and attending
church. You will face some
resistance due to trust issues they
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