• Glide@lemmy.caEnglish
    323·
    13 days ago

    Can we not increase the visibility of someone this disturbed?

    I understood the purpose of this community to be to catalog and pick apart the poorly constructed hypocrisies of the tankies that plague this platform, and, sure, find solidarity in having some laughs at their expense while we do it. This guy’s posts are just sad and hateful. Deleting his posts/banning his accounts just to screenshot the things he says, repost them and make fun of him really seems to defeat the purpose of deleting them to begin with. There’s no argument to deconstruct, and no misrepresented opinion to catalogue. They’re just a sad human spreading vitriol instead of getting the social/emotional help they desperately need.

    I feel like, as a community, we should make an effort to simply ban and move on from people like this.

    • Rhoeri@piefed.worldOPEnglish
      192·
      13 days ago

      While I partially agree, relegating them to the shadows hasn’t helped stem their numbers. IMHO, it’s time for scorched earth now. Quietly sweeping their shit under a rug hasn’t helped.

      Public shaming is the only recourse for this shit. Will it stop this degenerate loser from trolling? No, but it might stop the next one from making the same choice.

      • captainlezbianEnglish
        251·
        12 days ago

        Pro Palestine slogan. “From the river to the sea Palestine will be free”

          • TudsamfaEnglish
            165·
            12 days ago

            Should be noted: it implies just Palestine to control the area, not a 2 state solution. It has been argued by some that it is thus just “Death to Israel” reworded (or “Death to Palestine”, Israel’s government uses a similar phrase), and can fall under some hate speech laws some instances have to follow. So it is a bit more complicated than pro Palestine phrases being banned.

            You can make of that what you will, and they are right to criticise to a point, but don’t follow it with “Death to Westoids”, that’s just silly.

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
        620·
        12 days ago

        An antisemitic slogan used by Hamas within their charter. Antisemites and the otherwise ignorant use the slogan as a means of co-opting peace efforts and identifying other extremists.

        • oyo@lemmy.zipEnglish
          211·
          12 days ago

          On what planet is this antisemitic? That’s like saying MLK’s I have a dream speech is anti-white.

          • goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
            312·
            11 days ago

            Germany, amongst many.

            I figure they’re an expert on identifying antisemitic slogans, considering their history and also the whole Hamas verbatim saying the same slogan. Personally I’d question using a phrase that a terrorist organisation also uses, but Lemmy users don’t actually go outside, so shrug

            either way if you use it here i’ll ban ya

            • doben@lemmy.wtfEnglish
              72·
              11 days ago

              You figure wrong.

              Germany has a Staatsräson that follows Israeli state narratives as an official form of redemption for their past and does not recognize the ongoing genocide against the Palestinians committed by the Zionist Entity, which is heavily supported by German weaponry. Germany, being accused of complicity in said genocide in front of the International Court of Justice. The chancellor calls the racist annihilation and colonization of Palestinian land „Drecksarbeit“ (dirty work).

              The phrase is not illegal in Germany, as there is no law against it and courts have decided in favor of the legality. But it is misused for state repression against protests against genocide, by misusing anti-semitism as a pretense, just like you do. People that like to equal Judaism and Zionism, which in itself is anti-semitic, as it umbrellas every Jew under the atrocities, that are committed by the Zionist state of Israel.

              The phrase implies freedom from colonization and for all people in the land of Palestine, which includes Jews, btw. Interpreting it as anti-semitic is a malicious use of the term, just like it’s misused to smother every form of dissent. Israel itself uses the phrase to advertise their imperialist greater Israel project, and therefore again create a narrative where they themselves do what they are accusing others of, as they are the ones actually doing the ethnic cleansing, not the would-be one by Hamas, that disingenuous people like you try to focus on.

              Germany has no authority over the definition and use of the term anti-semitism and how would they, as they did the freaking Holocaust in the first place. But what they like to do is do everything that Israel wants in order to appear as the chastened and repentant nation they wish to portrait. You clinging to that kind of argumentation is very telling, same as banning for the use of the phrase. But you are a Zionist, and as Germany will oppress resistance, so will you by willfully mischaracterizing the ways in which the phrase is used as anti-Jewish, instead of anti-colonial or anti-racist or anti-Zionist.

              • hatoradeBanned from communityEnglish
                21·
                9 days ago

                Removed by mod

                • goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
                  11·
                  9 days ago

                  Are you a dumbass?

                  How is “I don’t like it” = supportive of genocide? brainrot

              • goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
                38·
                11 days ago

                I don’t care. I don’t like it. Don’t use it here

                talk whatever shit you want about israel or palestine or whatever sandshit you wanna whine about, don’t care, just don’t go posting hamas slogans or nazi shit or whatever the fuck

                i don’t like the phrase since it’s mentioned within the hamas charter, that’s enough reason for me

            • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
              52·
              11 days ago

              I’ve pretty much only seen the phrase used by anti-Palestinian genocide supporters and only deemed anti-semetic by Israel and those who kowtow to Israel.

              I would have thought you would also be against the genocide of Palestinians.

              • PugJesus@piefed.socialEnglish
                44·
                11 days ago

                I’ve pretty much only seen the phrase used by anti-Palestinian genocide supporters and only deemed anti-semetic by Israel and those who kowtow to Israel.

                Unfortunately, it’s also associated with a form of the one-state solution that involves throwing the Jews “back to the sea”, as many ‘leftists’ and some self-professed anarchists here will simp for.

                Whether it’s been reclaimed by Fatah’s moderation in the 90s for a more inclusive one-state solution, and Hamas’s subsequent conciliatory position in the late 2010s, is certainly a matter of personal opinion. I wouldn’t regard it as antisemitic, but I do understand that it gets hackles up for reasons that are more complex than just “They obviously support the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by Israel”

              • hatoradeBanned from communityEnglish
                34·
                11 days ago

                Removed by mod

              • goat@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
                36·
                11 days ago

                I’m against all genocide. But I’m not so campist to the point where I turn a blind eye to bigotry and hatred, and I honestly don’t care what internet weirdoes think, especially Lemmy of all places.

            • hatoradeBanned from communityEnglish
              31·
              11 days ago

              Removed by mod

  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    22·
    11 days ago

    Pretty sure these people were put into padded cells in the past, now we give them a voice to speak to other equally disturbed individuals.