My aim was to get a number of people to show their irritation by
sending complaints to ab...@uo... and telling them that
_they_ are explicitly spamming users.
On the mailing list side, there is nothing sourceforge can do, since they
never see these "anti-spam" mails.
UOL have a very broken system that can't correctly detect list-originating
mails, despite the huge number of extra fields available in the
mail header:
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Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe:
<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users>,
<mailto:dev...@li...?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Id: Dev-C++ users mailing list <dev-cpp-users.lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Post: <mailto:dev...@li...>
List-Help:
<mailto:dev...@li...?subject=help>
List-Subscribe:
<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users>,
<mailto:dev...@li...?subject=subscribe>
List-Archive:
<http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=dev-cpp-users>
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If nothing else, they should at least make sure that the source domain
lists.sourceforge.net was specifically known. It represents a significant
number of mailing lists and whatever policy UOL might have, that policy is
towards their end users, not towards the mailing lists, i.e. they can not
expect to enforce their policies on us by expecting thousands - or tens of
thousands of registrations in their system.
The single action of registering to a mailing list is an acceptance from
the end user to consider the list as an accepted sender of mails.
/Per W
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Daniel K. O. wrote:
> Per Westermark escreveu:
> > Can I assume that a lot of other people gets "anti-spam" registration
> > mails from:
> > AntiSpam UOL <mr-...@uo...>
> > whenever you post to this list?
> >
> > If so, please mail their ab...@uo... address and tell them what you
> > think about expecting mailing list participants to register whenever any
> > of their email users subscribe to a list just so that _we_ don't have to
> > see _their_ spam mails...
> >
> Unfortunately I think this should be handled by the list admins here.
> The AntiSpam UOL is a service provided for users that opt in for the
> service, so the fault is solely on the user. He is either too stupid, or
> was trying to piss us off.
> I believe UOL policy doesn't allow them to simply turn off the AntiSpam
> service, and considering that their anti-spam software is dumb enough
> that it can't identify messages from mailing lists (that IMHO should be
> silently ignored by their filter), it will be a long battle to convince
> them to 1) bother a user that pays money, 2) fix their stupid filtering
> software or 3) convince them that the user is purposely damaging an
> entire community.
>
> Yeah, I think unsubscribing him from the list is faster. If we only had
> some admins around here... maybe we can try contacting the SF staff
> directly and see if they can remove this user from this mailing list.
>
>
> ---
> Daniel K. O.
>
>
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