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From: Santiago P. C. <San...@yd...> - 2002-07-29 09:35:05
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<Ioannis Vranos words> Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs since we all would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, facilities. </Ioannis Vranos words> I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to linux version but we could help to windoze version; so we all can improve Dev-C++ development adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP Best regards, Santy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any wrong transmission. If you have received this message in error, please immediately destroy it and kindly notify the sender by reply email. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Ydilo Advanced Voice Solutions, S.A. shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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From: Jorge A. <jor...@ep...> - 2002-07-30 11:29:40
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Cristian Teodorescu escribió: Abhijit Shylanath wrote: >>><Ioannis Vranos words> >>>Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs >since we all >>>would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, >facilities. >>></Ioannis Vranos words> >>> >>>I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to linux >>>version but >>>we could help to windoze version; so we all can improve Dev-C++ >>> >>> >>development >> >> >>>adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... >>> >>>It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP >>> >>>Best regards, Santy >>> >>> >> >>I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be almost >>like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an idea, but >>is pointless since Dev's come so far. >> >Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it >will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. >Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more than appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-07-30 12:09:55
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> -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Jorge Alzate > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:32 PM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in > games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more > than appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those > are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you > like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) Yes, but when you get a general protection fault of the IDE in address 0000xfff80000 because of some invalid memory usage, almost noone from the list can detect and fix the problem (since we are mainly C/C++ programmers). If it was written in C++ and thus we had a clue of what is going on in the code, Dev-C++ would be definately more stable. The main problem is that its authors are mainly Pascal/Delphi programmers. :) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-08-02 02:37:12
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I just received an email i had sent days ago. The mailing list behaves crazily. :) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Ioannis Vranos > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:09 PM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dev...@li... > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > > Of Jorge Alzate > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:32 PM > > To: dev...@li... > > Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in > > games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more > > than appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those > > are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you > > like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) > > > Yes, but when you get a general protection fault of the IDE in address > 0000xfff80000 because of some invalid memory usage, almost noone from > the list can detect and fix the problem (since we are mainly C/C++ > programmers). If it was written in C++ and thus we had a clue > of what is > going on in the code, Dev-C++ would be definately more stable. > > > The main problem is that its authors are mainly Pascal/Delphi > programmers. :) > > > Ioannis > > * Ioannis Vranos > * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net > * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > |
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From: Abhijit S. <mu...@gm...> - 2002-08-02 07:58:20
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Methinks the problem is with _your_ mail server... I'd got it on time (30 July). ___________________________________________________________ http://www.stopthehatred.com/ http://mudeth.tripod.com/ Checked with NAV 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ioannis Vranos" <no...@ho...> To: <dev...@li...> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > I just received an email i had sent days ago. The mailing list behaves > crazily. :) > > > > Ioannis > > * Ioannis Vranos > * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net > * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dev...@li... > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > > Of Ioannis Vranos > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:09 PM > > To: dev...@li... > > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dev...@li... > > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > > > Of Jorge Alzate > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:32 PM > > > To: dev...@li... > > > Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > > > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in > > > games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more > > > than appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those > > > are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you > > > like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) > > > > > > Yes, but when you get a general protection fault of the IDE in address > > 0000xfff80000 because of some invalid memory usage, almost noone from > > the list can detect and fix the problem (since we are mainly C/C++ > > programmers). If it was written in C++ and thus we had a clue > > of what is > > going on in the code, Dev-C++ would be definately more stable. > > > > > > The main problem is that its authors are mainly Pascal/Delphi > > programmers. :) > > > > > > Ioannis > > > > * Ioannis Vranos > > * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net > > * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > > _______________________________________________ > > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > > Dev...@li... > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > |
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From: Ramana K. <ra...@my...> - 2002-08-02 10:31:26
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Yes, i find i always receive my messages AFTER other people have and i have sent re-replies! -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Ioannis Vranos Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 12:37 PM To: dev...@li... Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 I just received an email i had sent days ago. The mailing list behaves crazily. :) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Ioannis Vranos > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:09 PM > To: dev...@li... > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dev...@li... > > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > > Of Jorge Alzate > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:32 PM > > To: dev...@li... > > Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 > > > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in > > games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more > > than appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those > > are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you > > like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) > > > Yes, but when you get a general protection fault of the IDE in address > 0000xfff80000 because of some invalid memory usage, almost noone from > the list can detect and fix the problem (since we are mainly C/C++ > programmers). If it was written in C++ and thus we had a clue > of what is > going on in the code, Dev-C++ would be definately more stable. > > > The main problem is that its authors are mainly Pascal/Delphi > programmers. :) > > > Ioannis > > * Ioannis Vranos > * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net > * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Rob <ro...@us...> - 2002-07-30 13:35:12
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> >Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it > >will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. > >Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... > > I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in games?, > In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more than > appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those are futile, > and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you like of real speed > maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) > I took him to mean "speed of development" as in it not being a protracted development experiment due to the number of people who might be able to contribute. Development of an IDE in C++ may actually be a pretty good project for students and enthusiasts of the language, and some might really enjoy using and IDE they helped create in some way. So there could be some benefit at least with regard to enjoyment of the project. I doubt my C++ skills are adequately developed to make a significant contribution to such a project yet. However, if I were to follow such a project from the start, this might change rapidly. So from a learning perspective, I'm intrigued. Rob Andrews http://uselesspython.com |
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From: Ramana K. <ra...@my...> - 2002-07-31 12:01:42
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jorge, which language do you speak? it looks like you are using a translator in any case, i think the speed that was being referred to was not the speed of the IDE, but the speed at which it would be developed -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Jorge Alzate Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2002 9:32 PM To: dev...@li... Subject: [Dev-C++] RE: Kylix 3 Cristian Teodorescu escribió: Abhijit Shylanath wrote: >>><Ioannis Vranos words> >>>Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs >since we all >>>would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, >facilities. >>></Ioannis Vranos words> >>> >>>I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to linux >>>version but >>>we could help to windoze version; so we all can improve Dev-C++ >>> >>> >>development >> >> >>>adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... >>> >>>It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP >>> >>>Best regards, Santy >>> >>> >> >>I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be almost >>like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an idea, but >>is pointless since Dev's come so far. >> >Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it >will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. >Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... I Don't think so, Really matters SPEED in a IDE like in games?, In other words: Languages like VB or Delphi are more than appropiated for GUI design in the opposite side those are futile, and then C++ and assembler they enter, if you like of real speed maybe you want to rewrite Dev-C++ in assembler :) ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code1 _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Hongli L. <h....@ch...> - 2002-07-29 10:41:47
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On Mon, 2002-07-29 at 10:24, Santiago Palmier Campos wrote: > <Ioannis Vranos words> > Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs since we all > would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, facilities. > </Ioannis Vranos words> > > I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to linux > version but > we could help to windoze version; so we all can improve Dev-C++ development > adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... > > It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP > If you want to rewrite Dev-C++, be my guest, but I'm not going to try to do such a huge task. And I'd rather see the efford going into improving KDevelop or Anjuta, rather than rewriting Dev-C++ in order to support both Linux and Windows and GNU autoconf/automake and Dev-C++'s Windows compilation system. |
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From: Abhijit S. <mu...@gm...> - 2002-07-29 18:14:18
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> <Ioannis Vranos words> > Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs since we all > would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, facilities. > </Ioannis Vranos words> > > I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to linux > version but > we could help to windoze version; so we all can improve Dev-C++ development > adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... > > It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP > > Best regards, Santy I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be almost like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an idea, but is pointless since Dev's come so far. |
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From: Teodorescu C. <te...@xt...> - 2002-07-30 05:47:32
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Abhijit Shylanath wrote: >><Ioannis Vranos words> >>Well a C++ version of Dev-C++ would have much fewer bugs since we all >>would be able to correct them and why not addd additiona, facilities. >></Ioannis Vranos words> >> >>I think Ioannis is right... It is not only that we could help to linux >>version but >>we could help to windoze version; so we all can improve Dev-C++ >> >> >development > > >>adding functionalities, fixin bugs, etc... >> >>It's just my vote for "Ioannis campaign for president" anyway... ;oP >> >>Best regards, Santy >> >> > >I dunno, it seems to me that porting Dev to C++ from Delphi would be almost >like writing a whole new IDE form the ground up... which *is* an idea, but >is pointless since Dev's come so far. > Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board >for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! >http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 >_______________________________________________ >Dev-cpp-users mailing list >Dev...@li... >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > |
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From: Abhijit S. <mu...@gm...> - 2002-07-30 16:15:38
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> Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i think i it > will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. > Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will help .... Yes, all here are C++ programmers, but only a fraction of us know Delphi. Once the port is complete, I guess the Delphi version can be abandoned and the C++ version continued: 1. It's an IDE for C++. I was really surprised when I found out that Dev-C++ is coded in Delphi, I'm sure you were too :) 2. It can be ported to other platforms 3. It'll be cleaner... more people can read the code and actually understand and modify it 4. Support for other compilers? (BCC32 comes to mind) So, is anyone willing to port to C++? |
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From: Alfredo C. <al...@cl...> - 2002-07-30 16:54:27
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El Mar 30 Jul 2002 10:14, Abhijit Shylanath escribi=F3: > > Yes but sometimes we need a drawback to adavced faster and i > > think i it will be ported to c++ more fast that anybody think. > > Don't forget all here are c++ programers and if only 10% will > > help .... > > Yes, all here are C++ programmers, but only a fraction of us know > Delphi. Once the port is complete, I guess the Delphi version can > be abandoned and the C++ version continued: > > 1. It's an IDE for C++. I was really surprised when I found out > that Dev-C++ is coded in Delphi, I'm sure you were too :) > 2. It can be ported to other platforms > 3. It'll be cleaner... more people can read the code and actually > understand and modify it > 4. Support for other compilers? (BCC32 comes to mind) > > So, is anyone willing to port to C++? Maybe you should check http://wxworkshop.sourceforge.net and join in.=20 It's supposed to be for MS-Windows and Linux. Regards. - --=20 Alfredo J. Cole http://www.acyc.com (Accounting Systems) http://www.clshonduras.com (Linux Hardware) PGP Key available from certserver.pgp.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9RsOAu5DxuPWE298RAvt6AJ0aKKE04pBUJmlI9HBomE6DbTnWggCdH+Qg 7TR+95PSv7l5Y6aSimMbHhQ=3D =3DZ8Wu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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From: Yeoh H. <ye...@ye...> - 2002-07-31 03:17:12
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"Alfredo Cole" <al...@cl...> wrote: Maybe you should check http://wxworkshop.sourceforge.net and join in. It's supposed to be for MS-Windows and Linux. This is a very good idea. :-) Regards, Yeoh ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ Free Downloads at http://www.yeohhs.com ICT eBooks by Yeoh HS ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ |
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From: Colin L. <col...@wa...> - 2002-07-30 17:16:28
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Hi, > So, is anyone willing to port to C++? Port to c++... it would mean a complete rewrote Greetings, Colin > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board > for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! > http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 > _______________________________________________ > Dev-cpp-users mailing list > Dev...@li... > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Hongli L. <h....@ch...> - 2002-07-30 21:41:42
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Abhijit Shylanath wrote: >So, is anyone willing to port to C++? > > > You should rather ask: "So, is anyone willing to rewrite it in C++?" |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-07-30 22:07:26
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> -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Hongli Lai > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:47 AM > To: Abhijit Shylanath > Cc: Dev-C++ Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > > > Abhijit Shylanath wrote: > > >So, is anyone willing to port to C++? > > > > > > > > You should rather ask: "So, is anyone willing to rewrite it in C++?" Well Builder includes a Delphi compiler too, so there is no need to rewrite everything from the beginning, but we can start converting it slowly, and write the new facilities in C++. The problem is.... since most of us do not know Delphi, and you only understand what is written you have to do the conversion. :) Anyway i am not insisting too much on Dev-C++ written in C++ project, but as a philosophical issue Dev-C++ would be more great if it was written in C++ (and so we had a clue of what is going on). Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
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From: Teodorescu C. <te...@xt...> - 2002-07-31 05:20:54
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Ioannis Vranos wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: dev...@li... >>[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf >>Of Hongli Lai >>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:47 AM >>To: Abhijit Shylanath >>Cc: Dev-C++ Mailing List >>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ >> >> >>Abhijit Shylanath wrote: >> >> >> >>>So, is anyone willing to port to C++? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>You should rather ask: "So, is anyone willing to rewrite it in C++?" >> >> > > >Well Builder includes a Delphi compiler too, so there is no need to >rewrite everything from the beginning, but we can start converting it >slowly, and write the new facilities in C++. > > >The problem is.... since most of us do not know Delphi, and you only > Some of us started with pascal and stuff and delphi aka object pascal is no complicated but i hate coding pascal or similar languages so .... >understand what is written you have to do the conversion. :) Anyway i am >not insisting too much on Dev-C++ written in C++ project, but as a >philosophical issue Dev-C++ would be more great if it was written in C++ >(and so we had a clue of what is going on). > > >Ioannis > >* Ioannis Vranos >* Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net >* Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board >for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! >http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 >_______________________________________________ >Dev-cpp-users mailing list >Dev...@li... >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users > > |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-07-31 06:13:47
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Teodorescu Cristian [mailto:te...@xt...] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:22 AM > To: Ioannis Vranos; dev...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > > > Some of us started with pascal and stuff and delphi aka > object pascal is > no complicated but i hate coding pascal or similar languages > so .... I know Pascal too. But i can't understand anything from Dev-C+++ source code. :) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
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From: Carlos d. M. <cg...@wo...> - 2002-07-31 10:29:25
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I understand that people here would have prefered Dev having being written in C++, I agree with their arguments about we could help, do things, make something, I got somewhat surprised by the fact of having being written in Delphi, too. But I think that the language you use for write a program is a decission of the first moment, and once you decide a language and having passing the first working lines of coding, there is no return to the beginning, you must then continue with the decision to the end. At the phase it is, I think that asking for change the language, although understandable, is out of place. If someone wants to have a port, then do it, the code is available. Perhaps I would do if know Delphi, but I have no idea about it; and I neither consider me prepared for this task. Well, we all know yet how many people are interested and attracted by this idea, so I think the voting time is end, like the story. |
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From: Ramana K. <ra...@my...> - 2002-07-31 10:53:27
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I would love to help with porting dev to c++, so if ever there arises the need for me, those in charge are welcome to ask. but keep in mind i don't know delphi... one question though... when we say "dev" it's basically just the IDE isn't it? also, could someone reply to me if they get this message, because my message regarding sizeofing an array hasn't seemed to have gotten through... i might send again soon -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Ioannis Vranos Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 4:13 PM To: dev...@li... Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > -----Original Message----- > From: Teodorescu Cristian [mailto:te...@xt...] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:22 AM > To: Ioannis Vranos; dev...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > > > Some of us started with pascal and stuff and delphi aka > object pascal is > no complicated but i hate coding pascal or similar languages > so .... I know Pascal too. But i can't understand anything from Dev-C+++ source code. :) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-07-31 11:14:26
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> -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Ramana Kumar > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:53 PM > To: C++ > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > > > I would love to help with porting dev to c++, so if ever > there arises the > need for me, those in charge are welcome to ask. > but keep in mind i don't know delphi... > one question though... when we say "dev" it's basically just > the IDE isn't > it? Yes it is just the IDE. > also, could someone reply to me if they get this message, > because my message > regarding sizeofing an array hasn't seemed to have gotten > through... i might > send again soon I had sent a reply and i 'll resend it directly to your email. Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
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From: Hongli L. <h....@ch...> - 2002-07-31 11:21:10
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Ramana Kumar wrote: >I would love to help with porting dev to c++, so if ever there arises the >need for me, those in charge are welcome to ask. >but keep in mind i don't know delphi... >one question though... when we say "dev" it's basically just the IDE isn't >it? > The compiler is written in plain C. |
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From: Ramana K. <ra...@my...> - 2002-08-01 09:03:54
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Despite whatever any person may wish to say regarding porting dev-c++ to c++ being a waste of time, if there are enough people interested, it doesn't matter if certain people think it's a waste of time, we can do it anyway. I certainly see it as an interesting risk-free task that would have many benefits for the dev-c++ community, so let us get some ideas flowing. i personally envisage starting an entirely new c++ project from scratch without using the dev-c++ delphi source very much, but instead using the compiled dev-c++ as a guide as to what we want our c++ version to do. obviously, i think it would be good to write it using dev-c++, but what was that about builder? also, i am a windows person, and i'm not sure what people on other platforms are wanting or doing, but i would be writing the c++ version almost specifically for windows. who else knows windows programming? i am quite familiar with the win32 api, but have no clue about MFC or other container classes and i think they are messy. ok, enough of that, we also need to think about communication. we should have a leader (i would suggest mr vranos) who keeps all the project and details and divides the task among other programmers then collates their code. so are there enough interested people? -----Original Message----- From: dev...@li... [mailto:dev...@li...]On Behalf Of Ioannis Vranos Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 8:07 AM To: 'Dev-C++ Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Hongli Lai > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:47 AM > To: Abhijit Shylanath > Cc: Dev-C++ Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > > > Abhijit Shylanath wrote: > > >So, is anyone willing to port to C++? > > > > > > > > You should rather ask: "So, is anyone willing to rewrite it in C++?" Well Builder includes a Delphi compiler too, so there is no need to rewrite everything from the beginning, but we can start converting it slowly, and write the new facilities in C++. The problem is.... since most of us do not know Delphi, and you only understand what is written you have to do the conversion. :) Anyway i am not insisting too much on Dev-C++ written in C++ project, but as a philosophical issue Dev-C++ would be more great if it was written in C++ (and so we had a clue of what is going on). Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Dice - The leading online job board for high-tech professionals. Search and apply for tech jobs today! http://seeker.dice.com/seeker.epl?rel_code=31 _______________________________________________ Dev-cpp-users mailing list Dev...@li... TO UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.noicys.cjb.net/devcpp/ub.htm https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dev-cpp-users |
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From: Ioannis V. <no...@ho...> - 2002-08-01 10:11:59
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> -----Original Message----- > From: dev...@li... > [mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf > Of Ramana Kumar > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:04 PM > To: C++ > Subject: RE: [Dev-C++] Porting Dev to C++ > > > Despite whatever any person may wish to say regarding porting > dev-c++ to c++ > being a waste of time, if there are enough people interested, > it doesn't > matter if certain people think it's a waste of time, we can > do it anyway. > I certainly see it as an interesting risk-free task that > would have many > benefits for the dev-c++ community, so let us get some ideas flowing. > i personally envisage starting an entirely new c++ project > from scratch > without using the dev-c++ delphi source very much, but > instead using the > compiled dev-c++ as a guide as to what we want our c++ version to do. > obviously, i think it would be good to write it using > dev-c++, but what was > that about builder? > also, i am a windows person, and i'm not sure what people on > other platforms > are wanting or doing, but i would be writing the c++ version almost > specifically for windows. who else knows windows programming? > i am quite > familiar with the win32 api, but have no clue about MFC or > other container > classes and i think they are messy. > ok, enough of that, we also need to think about > communication. we should > have a leader (i would suggest mr vranos) who keeps all the > project and > details and divides the task among other programmers then > collates their > code. > so are there enough interested people? Well the leader is currently very busy. :) I am learning C++ and .NET . Also the Dev-C++ is copyright and child of Colin Laplace. My suggestion of C++ coded Dev-C++ was introduced many times in the past by me to persuade Colin. :) But Colin is a Delphi dude. I have not much time to devote to a possible Dev-C++ rewritting in C++ from scratch, i am just asking it from the people who have time and do this (the current Dev-C++ development team Colin Laplace, Hongli Lai and the rest of people). I have time only to bug fix things and add some facilities here and there and say some suggestion. Thanks for the recommendation though, and those "leader" remarks. :)) Ioannis * Ioannis Vranos * Programming pages: http://www.noicys.cjb.net * Alternative URL: http://run.to/noicys |
