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Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again!
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From: Bjorn T. <bjo...@ho...> - 2003-03-31 07:14:16
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>Who has the best access depend upon how you count. Statisics can always be manipulated to show what you want. The following example(follow the link at: <A href="http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11">http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11</A> to NUA's hompage) could show either that the greatest increase was in the US or that the US had a mere 3% increase.</P> <P>"The US posted the greatest increase in the number of adults online over the same period with nearly 10 million people over the age of 16 gaining Net access. As a percentage of population, however this number represents a three percent increase for the US, compared to Spain which saw a 22 percent rise in the percentage of the population online."<BR><BR>Personally, I don't think the US has an overwhelming superiority in computer&internet access. We have 4 computers at home (2 of them share a 2,5 Mbps connection) and that is not uncommon in Sweden. Let's conclude that many developed contries have good access to the internet, and computers in general.</P> <P>Best regards</P> <P>Bjorn Terelius</P> <P>ps. I'm sorry to violate our agreement to end this discussion. ;-)</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>>From: "Santiago" <SA...@HO...> <DIV></DIV>>To: "Per Westermark" <PW...@IA...> <DIV></DIV>>CC: "Dev-C++ Mailing List" <DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! <DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:08:13 -0500 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>Firstable, my apologies for the CAPS. I've tried to keep quiet for too long <DIV></DIV>>now and I just had enough of this anti-American senseless garbage all over. <DIV></DIV>>It's not only by the means of internet access but thanks for the site. <DIV></DIV>>Indeed, let's review your source of data facts: <DIV></DIV>>Demographics <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> a.. According to IDATE, 9.8% of the population worldwide had access to the <DIV></DIV>>Internet in 2002, up from 7.9% in 2001. IDATE estimates that the figure will <DIV></DIV>>reach 15.8% by 2006. The company also provided Internet penetration levels <DIV></DIV>>by international regions in 2002: (estimate for 2006 are shown in brackets) <DIV></DIV>> a.. North America: 66.7% (81.0%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> b.. Western Europe (including Scandinavia): 37.9% (51.4%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> c.. Eastern Europe (including Russia): 7.0% (15.4%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> d.. Asia-Pacific: 6.4% (13.3%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> e.. Latin America: 5.4% (9.1%) <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> f.. Africa/Middle East (including Turkey and South Africa): 1.1% (3.1%) <DIV></DIV>> (eMarketer Daily - Issue 54, March 2003) <DIV></DIV>>Taken from: http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=10 <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>This is all besides the fact that Americans have been to more foreign <DIV></DIV>>countries and visited their cultures more then any citizen in the planet. <DIV></DIV>>Besides that (hate it or not) America is the most culturally diverse country <DIV></DIV>>in the world where even foreign American haters living and working here have <DIV></DIV>>the freedom the express their views without legal reprisal. Let me know if <DIV></DIV>>you need more reasons to believe that Americans are the most informed (and <DIV></DIV>>nicest) people out there. <DIV></DIV>>I know that what I say may not be in a classic American politically correct <DIV></DIV>>style. However, while I know hatred my obscure reality, I believe it's time <DIV></DIV>>for a "reality check." <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>My regards Mr. Per <DIV></DIV>>Santiago <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>>----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>>From: "Per Westermark" <PW...@IA...> <DIV></DIV>>To: "Santiago" <SA...@HO...> <DIV></DIV>>Cc: "Khalid El-Kary" <KHA...@HO...>; <DIV></DIV>><DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>>Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 8:00 AM <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> <DIV></DIV>> > No, it is NOT a reality that US has 'the best access to WORLD information' <DIV></DIV>> > if you by that mean internet access, and doesn't count the number of spy <DIV></DIV>> > satellites for minding other countries bussiness. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastbay/stories/2003/02/03/daily25.html <DIV></DIV>> > declares 67% US ADULTS penetration - which of course assumes private <DIV></DIV>> > surfing on company time. Let's go for total population instead, since <DIV></DIV>> > obviously growing up without free access to uncoloured information <DIV></DIV>> > is important... <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > If you check TOTAL population, check link: <DIV></DIV>> > http://www.etcnewmedia.com/review/default.asp?SectionID=11 <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > 69.8% Iceland <DIV></DIV>> > 67.8% Sweden <DIV></DIV>> > 63.3% Switzerland <DIV></DIV>> > 62.7% Denmark <DIV></DIV>> > 60.8% Netherlands <DIV></DIV>> > 59.6% Hong Kong <DIV></DIV>> > 59.2% Norway <DIV></DIV>> > 57.6% Austria <DIV></DIV>> > 57.3% USA <DIV></DIV>> > 55.9% Canada <DIV></DIV>> > 55.7% South Korea <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > First of all, it's considered quite rude to shout - using capital letters <DIV></DIV>> > - in news groups and mails. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > Second, to shout without checking facts is even worse. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > Might it be that you are not an adult, and hence haven't learned correct <DIV></DIV>> > social behavour? My previous post did not contain any information <DIV></DIV>> > requiring a shouted answer. <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > /Per W <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Santiago wrote: <DIV></DIV>> > <DIV></DIV>> > > Saddam peaceful??? Ok let's see: 8 years of war with Iran out of <DIV></DIV>>nowhere, <DIV></DIV>> > > then invaded Kwait for no reason. And again you WILL NOT dispute the <DIV></DIV>>250,000 <DIV></DIV>> > > dead people under Saddam regime because you just can't deny that, <DIV></DIV>>neither <DIV></DIV>> > > have an idea on how to explain it or justify it. I'm constantly reading <DIV></DIV>> > > sites around the world; ther can't be no brain washing here in the USA. <DIV></DIV>>The <DIV></DIV>> > > US is one of the only countries in which "internet cafes" can't work as <DIV></DIV>>a <DIV></DIV>> > > business. And that's because families here have 1, 2,3, more computers <DIV></DIV>>each, <DIV></DIV>> > > all with internet access. So you could say that Americans have the best <DIV></DIV>> > > access to WORLD information, better than any other country (I know you <DIV></DIV>>might <DIV></DIV>> > > hate that, it's REALITY). Again, i don't know where you are but if in <DIV></DIV>>your <DIV></DIV>> > > country 2+2=5, then I'll understabd why you say Saddam is peaceful. It <DIV></DIV>>all <DIV></DIV>> > > comes down to the USA being the best and powerful country in the world <DIV></DIV>>where <DIV></DIV>> > > lots of things you enjoy were invented, including computers,computer <DIV></DIV>> > > programming, and C++. So I also understand that it's human nature to <DIV></DIV>>hate <DIV></DIV>> > > the BEST regardless of the facts. But at the end you and everyone else <DIV></DIV>>will <DIV></DIV>> > > still want to be like the best. <DIV></DIV>> > > Saddam is evil and must go very soon and any other evil county MUST <DIV></DIV>>until <DIV></DIV>> > > there's no more crazy fanatic regimes threating this blessed land! <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > ----- Original Message ----- <DIV></DIV>> > > From: "Khalid El-Kary" <KHA...@HO...> <DIV></DIV>> > > To: <DEV...@LI...> <DIV></DIV>> > > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:34 PM <DIV></DIV>> > > Subject: [Dev-C++] Forgive me again! <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > Hi again fellow, <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >See , I didn't say the main purpose of the US was to rescue those <DIV></DIV>>poor <DIV></DIV>> > > > >people. However, the result of the US going in, will be peace, <DIV></DIV>>stability, <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > so you believe that US isn't there for rescuing people ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > did they tell you that before USA came saddam killed people in groups? <DIV></DIV>>why <DIV></DIV>> > > > do they raise his name and his pictures in TV ? are these poor people <DIV></DIV>> > > > kidding us in war ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > Iraq was peaceful until you came, if it wasn't, people wouldn't have <DIV></DIV>> > > killed <DIV></DIV>> > > > you fellow, people would have really put flowers for you to get in, <DIV></DIV>>but <DIV></DIV>> > > this <DIV></DIV>> > > > is not true, Iraqi people, are currently killing US soldiers who are <DIV></DIV>>your <DIV></DIV>> > > > brothers as i suppose. how can you explain to me that a civilian Iraqi <DIV></DIV>> > > woman <DIV></DIV>> > > > kills three US soldiers ? do you think such a woman, doesn't love <DIV></DIV>>saddam ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > Iraqi people love saddam, this is not my words, it's words of people <DIV></DIV>>who <DIV></DIV>> > > > went to Iraq, my maths teacher was there, he told me that Iraqi people <DIV></DIV>> > > love <DIV></DIV>> > > > saddam more than any thing ... so can saddam be killing them in <DIV></DIV>>streets ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >and much more lives will be saved than if saddam would stay. <DIV></DIV>> > > > >The main purpose of us going in is our defense. Throughout the <DIV></DIV>>history of <DIV></DIV>> > > > >the US and the world, all countries have REACTED to aggression. <DIV></DIV>> > > > >Unfortunatelly, September 11th, 2001 changed US and world history. <DIV></DIV>>The <DIV></DIV>> > > US <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > you are poor, really poor, because you don't know the truth fellow, <DIV></DIV>>didn't <DIV></DIV>> > > > you ask yourself why did the people attack you in 11th September ? <DIV></DIV>>would <DIV></DIV>> > > > they attack to just die ? are they just "coward mad people" ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > I don't think so, they attacked you because you have a hand in all <DIV></DIV>>that's <DIV></DIV>> > > > done for palastine, you support Israel, can you hide it ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > I don't say that the attack was justice, but the attack wasn't a <DIV></DIV>>pointless <DIV></DIV>> > > > act, and you should (instead of pro-acting) stop supporting the injust <DIV></DIV>> > > power <DIV></DIV>> > > > of Israel. oh and even more, USA attacked afhganistan and killed <DIV></DIV>>innocent <DIV></DIV>> > > > people without bringing a proof that Usama Bin Laden is responsible <DIV></DIV>>... <DIV></DIV>> > > one <DIV></DIV>> > > > of the things that happened there is, destroying an Afghani hospital ? <DIV></DIV>>plz <DIV></DIV>> > > > study the truth very well, don't just listen to your TV, it's edited <DIV></DIV>>to <DIV></DIV>> > > > blind you, use your mind to figure the truth out, our TV may blind us <DIV></DIV>>too <DIV></DIV>> > > by <DIV></DIV>> > > > the way, but I think deeper. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >is no longer going to REACT, it from now on will PRO-ACT. And that's <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > sacrastic again...and kill innocent people in its PRO-ACT ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >something the world is going to have to get used to. Before Sep11th, <DIV></DIV>>I <DIV></DIV>> > > > >wou;d <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > So you dismiss justice ? i'm worried that saddam is going to be an <DIV></DIV>>angel <DIV></DIV>> > > if <DIV></DIV>> > > > compared with you, return to justice plz. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >have disagree with the war. But as you know after Sep 11th we were <DIV></DIV>> > > attacked <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > Killing children doesn't have special circumstances where it's <DIV></DIV>>allowed, <DIV></DIV>> > > your <DIV></DIV>> > > > hand is soiled in their blood. my hand too, because i didn't stand to <DIV></DIV>> > > defend <DIV></DIV>> > > > them. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >with biological and weapons, which CANNOT be contained like <DIV></DIV>>communism. We <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > they didn't find these weapons so far, and they weren't found before <DIV></DIV>>the <DIV></DIV>> > > > war, right ? or you attack for the possibilty even ? <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >HAVE to take action against ANT THREAT before it can even get here. <DIV></DIV>>So <DIV></DIV>> > > it's <DIV></DIV>> > > > >all about life or dead. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > It's all about innocent blood shed, but our god is fair, and days will <DIV></DIV>> > > make <DIV></DIV>> > > > everyone responsible for innocent blood pay for it. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > >I hope the US continues to be PROACTIVE in the face of biological or <DIV></DIV>> > > > >chemical threats and I hope some day the world understands that <DIV></DIV>>because <DIV></DIV>> > > > >from <DIV></DIV>> > > > >now on there is no turning back. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > you remind me of the matrix movie, no turning back, are they a herd of <DIV></DIV>> > > > sheeps that you kill them with "no turning back" ? they are humans we <DIV></DIV>> > > should <DIV></DIV>> > > > think 1000000 times before we kill one of them. return to justice plz. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > your speech is no longer about justice, it's about pre-protection of <DIV></DIV>> > > yours, <DIV></DIV>> > > > which means killing innocent children, and you could have avoided it <DIV></DIV>>if <DIV></DIV>> > > you <DIV></DIV>> > > > didn't become our center of hatred, by what you did along the years <DIV></DIV>>with <DIV></DIV>> > > our <DIV></DIV>> > > > brothers in palastine, now you are even going further, but there's a <DIV></DIV>>god <DIV></DIV>> > > > above, who sees you, and hears you. <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > I'm really sorry for the mailing list, i promise not to post about <DIV></DIV>>this <DIV></DIV>> > > > topic again, it's for Dev-C++ isn't it ? :) <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > Regards, <DIV></DIV>> > > > Khalid AL-Kary <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > _________________________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>> > > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online <DIV></DIV>> > > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > <DIV></DIV>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- <DIV></DIV>> > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: <DIV></DIV>> > > > The Definitive IT and Networking Event. 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