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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Jon Boehm wrote:

> Is there a nice way of stopping or restarting misterhouse from the command
> line without a 'kill' command?  Obviously I'm in the UNIX world.

That's a great question... I use the kill command which works fine...
unless some states have recently changed in which case they have not yet
been saved and are lost.

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Hi,

Is there a nice way of stopping or restarting misterhouse from the command
line without a 'kill' command?  Obviously I'm in the UNIX world.

Thanks,
Jon

> I don't understand the reason for the _ws variables.  It would be nice if
the logging code worked with the existing %Weather variables > so the graphs
could work with any supported weather station.

David, i agree with you ; that could works fine with other weather stations.
So, i am going to make the change next weekend and i will used the
%variables instead. Let me just 1 or 2 weeks !
Initially, I created the _ws variables for my own french usage to store the
data in french unit of measure (not mph but km/h, not inch but cm, etc...).
I will make the appropriated conversions from %Weather variables in the
graph script according to the default_uom_xxxx parameters (for windspeed :
km/h in my case and probably mph in your case)

> Also, have you seen Alan Jackson's weather graphing code?
> http://www.oplnk.net/~ajackson/weather_tools/

Thanks for this link, i like the Rose Diagrams for displaying wind
direction. Perhaps, it's easy to use Rose.pm package with a source RRD
database.

Dominique.

First of all, thanks for MH!!

I have several 2-Way SwitchLink X10 Dimmers and would like to keep track of
the status.

If X10_SwitchLink->set(“##%”) is called, the appropriate PRESET_DIM commands
are sent to the controller.  When the switch is adjusted manually (decora
button tapped) and sends an OFF/ON, then the status with MH is set
correctly.  However, if the button is held (PRESET_DIM sent) the status does
not reflect the new state.

The incoming data (e.g.  XC9JPRESET_DIM2) is unmatched and the state is set
to manual.  I would like to keep track of the changes and level when the
switch is dimmed locally.

What are your suggestions on doing this?
Should I alter the code within X10_SwitchLink?

Thanks,
-Steven

Hi Carlos,

Long time since I have played with MH and/or IA5 (although it still controls
my lights)

But there is no list kept, all those icon things are dynamic, so just
createing a group and placing a group-<groupname> icon should do it.

Maybe depending on your OS, you should watch upper/lowercase filenames.

Regards,
Ron

 
-----Original Message-----
From: mis...@li...
[mailto:mis...@li...] On Behalf Of Carlos
M. Contreras
Sent: zondag 28 december 2003 21:22
To: mis...@li...
Subject: [misterhouse-users] Re: customizing ia5


"Daniel Nadeau" <cj...@ma...> wrote in message
news:pan...@ma......
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:45:00 -0500, Pete Flaherty wrote:
>
> > I see a problem
> > Your  html_alias2_ia5 = /misterhouse/web/ia5
> > pionts to the existing web structure.
> > The customized location should be created eg /misterhouse/web/custom/ia5
> >
> > Then using the same structure under the existing /web/ia5 add in the
> > appropriate directories ( to the /misterhouse/web/custom/ia5 ) and
> > change/add files you want to in this custom structure (only changes are
> > needed, as this will override the default ia5 files of the same name)
> >
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 10:13, Kirk Bauer wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Daniel Nadeau wrote:
> >>
> >> > I am wanting to customize the ia5 web interface. For instance (Not
all of
> >> > my groups have icons to go with them, and I would like to change
that.)
> >> > <i.e Studio, Porch, etc> Also, I am starting to work with
floorplan.pl and
> >> > I need to point the "Floorplan View" button to /bin/floorplan.pl but
I
> >> > haven't had any luck in doing that. I think the ia5 interface looks
> >> > amazing, I just need to customize it a bit for my needs. At the same
time,
> >> > I don't want to miss out on new features that are added.
> >> > BTW, I have added this to mh.private.ini
> >> >  html_alias2_ia5    = /misterhouse/web/ia5
> >> > However, I'm not exactly sure what to do after that.
> >>
> >> At this point, simply copy any files that you want to modify into
> >> your /misterhouse/web/ia5.  By copying only the files you change it
> >> helps you to keep up with other changes that may be made in the
> release.
>
> Great, this clears things up and makes a lot of sense. Now, I see that
> misterhouse automatically puts icons with GROUPS it recognizes, for
> instance Christmas automatically gets a santa icon and bathroom
> automatically gets a bath icon. How are these decided, and is there a way
> to add my own icons to the mix (I'll make them match the other ia5 icons,
> so maybe I could add them to the next release :) I noticed some files in
> \mh\web\graphics called group-study.jpg and group-christmas.jpg  So would
> I be right in thinking that if I created a group-Masterbath.jpg then I
> could name a group MasterBath and this icon would automatically associate
> with it. Let me know if this thinking is correct, and would it be a good
> idea to add these icons to the release (I hope they look okay :P )
>               -Daniel
I tried it two days ago (BTW, with MasterBath), and it didn't worked.  I
guess there most be a file with a list.  Hope someone could help us with
this.

Carlos





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gregg,

I wasn't paying much attention either.  After adding the debug command and 
not seeing anything in the log I decided to check my /opt/MisterHouse/code 
directory where user code resides. For some reason I had a voice_text.pm in 
that directory, removing that and the voice stuff works perfect...  Sorry 
to waste your time on my user error, but thanks for the help.

Marty



At 06:01 AM 12/29/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Marty,
>
>         I wasn't paying close attention to the log text of your original 
> post.  The log entry:
<SNIP>

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003, Tim Wilson wrote:

> I've purchased a CM11A and a few X10 split receptacles 
> (http://smarthome.com/2040.html). I've read the basic documentation 
> include the FAQs, but I'm not sure how or where to configure these 
> devices so that MH can begin controlling them. Perhaps I'm being dense, 
> but I feel like I'm missing some of the "big picture" of MH. I'm sure 
> it will come with time, but this Python programmer is feeling a bit 
> lost in all of this perl. :-) Any advice or pointers to more specific 
> documentation would be appreciated.

Oh, don't worry, it will take a while to get up to speed.  I have been
programming for over 15 years and know over 10 languages including Perl
for about 7 years now.  I think it took me a good month before I was
comfortable.

Once you get the cm11a configured in your mh.private.ini, you then
create a file in your code directory such as house.mht:

   X10I, D10, front_porch_lights

This creates an X10_Item (X10I) which supports on/off/dimming/etc.  This
is a normal wall-switch module.  It has the address 'D10' and names the 
variable $front_porch_lights.  

I think your modules do not support dimming, so you would want to use:

   X10A, A1, some_outlet

You can then create a .pl file in your code directory and do stuff like
this:

if (time_now("$Time_Sunset + 0:15")) {
   set $front_porch_lights ON;
}


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Marty,

	I wasn't paying close attention to the log text of your original post. 
  The log entry:

Can not speak for engine=theta: Phrase=Call from Murphy, E

	appears to be output if (among other things) $speak_pgm in 
Voice_Text.pm is undefined.  $speak_pgm gets defined if $speak_engine 
eq 'theta' (which it apparently is) and is set to the voice_text_theta 
parm value.  Your original post indicated that your default mh.ini has 
voice_text_theta set to the location of your theta install.  Just to be 
safe, you might try setting it in your private mh.ini file.

	If this doesn't work for you, try adding the following line:
print "speak_pgm: $speak_pgm" if $main::Debug{voice} and $speak_pgm;

	after the existing line (approx line# 161) that reads:
elsif ($speak_engine =~/theta/i) {

	And see if the output in your log refers to your theta path.

Gregg

On Dec 29, 2003, at 2:38 AM, Martin Dolphin wrote:

> Thanks gregg,
>
> my theta (and theta.bin) is found in opt/theta/bin .. Same  output 
> that you got.
> I am using version 2.5  of theta, and the theta bin directory is in my 
> path.  I'm also running this on linux (fedora distro)  I'm also using 
> alsa since mythTV requires it .
>
> I've got 3 sound cards (snd-emu10k1, snd-intel8x0, and bttv)  I've 
> unloaded the modules for the intel and bttv and the theta still 
> wouldn't work work.
>
> Version information:
> Theta  version 2.5
> ALSA version 1.0.0.rc2
> MH 2.86
>
> I turned off the default sound prefix and still no luck.
>
> Any other thoughts?
>
> Marty
>
>
>
> At 10:29 PM 12/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>>         The voice_text_theta param refers to the theta engine binary. 
>>  By default, it is installed (on Linux distros) at 
>> /opt/theta/bin/theta.
>> For example, on my system:
>>
>> [gliming@baltar lib]$ whereis theta
>> theta: /opt/theta/bin/theta.bin /opt/theta/bin/theta
>>
>>         On what platform are you running your theta engine?  If it's 
>> something other than linux or if you've redirected the default 
>> install directory, then you should update your local voice_text_theta 
>> param accordingly.
>>
>>         If the above doesn't address your problem and you're running 
>> Linux, then perhaps there's a conflict with your sound device.  Are 
>> you using a default sound file to "prefix" your voices?  If so, 
>> consider temporarily disabling them. FWIW: I used to have various 
>> "simultaneous sound issues" until moving to Alsa.
>
>
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On Sun, 2003-07-20 at 22:40, cslee work wrote:
> My CM11A is gasping its last breath as it is locking
> up constantly. Can anyone suggest a replacement? The
> Lynx-X10 is too rich. I am thinking of the smarthome
> Serial Powerlinc II
> 
> http://www.smarthome.com/1132.html

Looks like it supports extended commands also.

-piet

> 
> 
> = "Talks" both ASCII RS-232 & the old TW523 protocol 
> = Transmits & receives extended X10 codes 
> = Direct plug-in replacement for TW523 interface and
> PSC05 
> = Provides 12VDC 300mA power for your device 
> = Cleans up clutter by providing both power and X10 in
> one cable 
> = Sample visual basic program & source code, including
> Internet control capability!
> 
> 
> If it talks ASCII, how hard is it to make it work in
> mrHouse? 
> 
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On Sun, 2003-12-28 at 23:41, I (Piet Delaney) wrote about expected
problems with using the LynX-10 PLC with Leviton two bi-directional
Scene Capable switches...

It seems that  "Uncle" Phil Kingery at Advanced Control 
Technologies, Inc (ACT) has developed a replacement for their 
old TW523 that can do extended commands. It's called the 
TI103-RS232 (or just TI103):
	      
http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/dec02/articles/kingery16/kingery16.htm

It's a complete rs232 to power line interface. The spec say it can 
do extended commands 1:

	http://www.act-solutions.com/pdfs/PCCSpecs/ti103_spec.pdf


I wonder why extended commands 3 (used by leviton) isn't mentioned.

The instructions say it supports {X10, ACT, Leviton}. 

	http://www.act-solutions.com/pdfs/PCCInst/ti103_instr.pdf

It seems that ACT entered into an agreement with Smart Products, Inc
and made them the exclusive exclusive sales agent:

 	To place an order by email:  to...@op...
	To place an order by fax:  201-594-0761
	To call Smart Products:  201-594-0550 

it seems to also be available for $99 at:\
	 HomeSeer Technologies OnLine Store:

http://homeseer.american-data.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PLST&Store_Code=HS
    
http://homeseer.american-data.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=X10
		
http://homeseer.american-data.net/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TI103&Category_Code=

It's also available for $99.00 at:

http://www.bassburglaralarms.com/category_109.htm

There's a Bulliten Board at HomeSeer where they are discussing both the
new Version 2 of the TI103 interface (Tue, 23 September 03) and the
Marrick LynX10-PLC X10. I didn't see anything about Leviton two way
scene swithes or Extended Commands. HomeSeer seems to be a product 
with features similar to MisterHouse:

      http://www.homeautomationnet.com/homeseer/hsmanual16.pdf

but but a bit expensive ($135) and not OpenSource.

Looks like the TI103 has been discussed for MisterHouse by:

	 Steve Haehnichen back on/at 
			29 Jul 2003 18:04:34 -0700
			20 Aug 2003 22:20:25 -0700
 and 
	Bruce Winter back on/at 
			22 Aug 2003 20:28:46 -0500

Steve did a very impressive Comparison of the:

	LynX-10 PLC
	CM11-A (TW523)
	ACT TI103-RS232

Looks like the ACT puts out lots of signal and has a
low X-10 SUCK value, check out:

	http://www.trix.com/gallery/x10

He says it's available at Worthington for $93 
(special order, no returns). 

It seems to be a polled device, the last discussion was to
work offline to get it fully integrated. I wonder how it's
going. For Leviton users this device and a driver may be the \
best approach.

-piet


> On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 03:37, Piet Delaney wrote: 
> > On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:20, Joe Blecher wrote:
> > > Piet,
> > > 
> > > The Lynx10PLC is capable of scenes/new extended commands as well as much
> > > more. The latest version of the Lynx10PLC.pm file (2.85) now sends the
> > > "extended command 1" commands instead of the older pre-dim commands. I
> > > initially wrote the module giving it capabilities that I needed and didn't
> > > implement the full suite of commands. With the help of Craig Schaffer, the
> > > module is maturing and now supports proxy mode and RCS thermostats. I have
> > > the API documentation from Marrick for the Lynx10PLC that I can forward to
> > > you (and any others that are interested in helping) if you want to add the
> > > scene capability to the module.
> > 
> > Sounds like a good idea, send the API documentation. If it looks even
> > remotely possible to do the leviton scene commands I'll get a Lynx10PLC 
> > from http://www.worthdist.com and hopefully make some progress
> > on control of the living room scene switches. 
> 
> I posted this a few hours ago but haD too many folks on the Cc: 
> list and it got put into a moderator queue. I thought I'd just post 
> it again without the Cc: list in case it takes a long time for the 
> original to get posted. I thought it would be better for maintaining 
> the discussion of the problem I read about at the Marrick web site 
> with the use of the LynX-10 computer interface with Leviton switches: 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 				Posted Missive 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> I visited the Marrick Web Site and read over their documentation. 
> I found what appears to be a HUGE PROBLEM. 
>                              ============ 
> 
> 
> It seems the Marrick computer interface uses the old TW-523 
> X-10 hardware interface. This piece of crap can't receive extended 
> commands. See page 13 of: 
> 
>/_files/Manuals/MAN103_200.pdf
> 
> so although the LynX-10 firmware supports the extended commands it 
> appears to interface to hardware that can. 
> 
> So, If I'm right, Leviton users (victims?) are still up the crick 
> without a paddle. 
> 
> Sigh! Someone please show me that I'm wrong! 
> 
> I'm going to call Marrick: 
> 
>                 407-323-4467 
> 
> hopefully tomorrow, and confirm the bad news. I'm Bcc'ing: 
> 
>                 sa...@ma...
> and 
>                 su...@ma...
> 
> perhaps they shed some light on this problem and/or pass this problem 
> onto eng...@ma....
>         
> I was so hopping that that th LynX-10 was going to solve my problems. 
> I wonder why someone doesn't make an up to date version of the TW-523 
> that can receive extended commands. I wonder if someone has a patent 
> preventing it; like Levition. If so, XTC798 doesn't deserve to be an 
> X-10 standard. 
> 
> -piet 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> > 
> > 
> > >                                       I am not sure how "scenes" have been
> > > implemented in MH from the top view,  but I'm willing to implement the code
> > > if someone can describe how it's done.
> > 
> > I'm afraid the infrastructure for scenes doesn't exist and needs to be
> > added. I had some thoughts but I'd imagine Bruce would be the expert in
> > this area. The scene switches are all basically the same in general 
> > functionality. You have a bunch of lights in a range of addresses, say
> > A1...A10 and a couple of scene selectors at at A15. So someone presses
> > Scene 1 and holds it down. Once it starts blinking you go to switchs A1
> > thru A10 and set their levels for that scene. Now you press the scene
> > button again and the lights at A1 ... A10 remember the association
> > between the scene and the intensities. The protocol isn't documented
> > but I recall the scene switch sending commands to all possible addresses
> > for it's range say A1...A15.  Leviton only quotes the xtc798 spec which
> > isn't a very enlightening spec and the implementation is difficult. Some
> > of the commands seem to be address relative.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > BTW: The Lynx10PLC has been rock solid for me in the almost four years since
> > > I purchased it.
> > 
> > Good to head, the cm11 has been a major disappointment and the
> > complexity of the xtc798 spec a similar disappointment. I'm use
> > to working on more industrial protocols like tcp, ip, NFS, XDR,
> > osi, .... 
> > 
> > -piet
> > 
> > > 
> > > HTH,
> > > 
> > > Joe Blecher
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Piet Delaney" <pi...@ww...>
> > > To: <mis...@li...>; "Bruce Winter"
> > > <br...@mi...>
> > > Cc: <mis...@bl...>; "piet" <pi...@ww...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:02 AM
> > > Subject: Support for Leviton Scene Extended Commands (xtc798) - anythingthat
> > > replaces the old cm11?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hi Gang:
> > > >
> > > > I was wondering if there is an alternate available with the reliability
> > > > of the Lynx10PLC but with the flexibility of the cm11; being capable of
> > > > sending all extended commands, including the new extended commands used
> > > > by Leviton.
> > > >
> > > > I started hacking the MH cm11 code to support the new extended commands
> > > > but I got busy at work and my cm11 seems to be almost dead. It's
> > > > dying with the checksum problem. The cm11 seems like a poor computer
> > > > interface to bother with. I was hopping that by now someone would have
> > > > come up with a reliable alternate.
> > > >
> > > > I looked over the Lynx10PLC module and it appears to only support the
> > > > old pre-dim extended commands and not the 'new' xtc797/xtc798 scene
> > > > commands. These new xtc798 extended commands do seem rather obfuscated
> > > > but I hoped it might still be salvageable.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts or suggestions? Anyone know if I'm wrong about the
> > > > Lynx10PLC device?
> > > >
> > > > -piet
> > > >
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On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 18:28, Bruce Winter wrote:
> > After having a number of CM-11A failures/hangs, an unreliable Adicon
> > 2500 (dropping bits), and a Marrick LynX-10 PLC with a very weak power
> > output, I finally went top-of-the-line and bought an ACT TI103-RS232
> > interface from Worthington for $93 (special order, no returns).
> >
> > So far, I'm impressed!  The X10 signal is the strongest and cleanest
> > I've ever seen, at 7.5 volts:
> >   http://www.trix.com/gallery/x10/TEK00021
> >
> > The protocol is straightforward and well-thought out:
> >   http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/dec02/articles/kingery16/kingery16.htm
> >   http://www.act-solutions.com/pdfs/PCCInst/ti103_instr.pdf
> >
> > First question is: Has anyone tried writing an MH driver for this
> > interface?  If not, I'll get started. :)
> 
> Nope, I have not heard of anyone working on an ACT inteface driver.
> 
> > The only gotcha is that this interface is polled.  It will not
> > spontaneously send the PC any received X10 data -- the status must be
> > requested.  What's the best way to manage this in MisterHouse?  I
> > don't want to slow down the mh cycle to send out a command at 9600
> > each tick and wait for a response, but at the same time I don't want
> > to be too slow about receiving X10 events.  A bit of a pickle.
> 
> We should be able to poll by periodically sending the poll command, then
> simply processing the incoming data as it comes in.  Here is an example of
> how I poll data from the weeder analog interface (code/bruce/sensors.pl):
> 
>   set $analog_request_a 'request'  if $New_Second and $Second == 20;
>   &analog_read($temp) if $temp = state_now $analog_results;
> 
> You would probably poll a bit faster ;)
> 
> > Second question: What's the best existing X10 interface code to start
> > with as a baseline?  Which one best embodies the current and future MH
> > paradigm?  I see they vary quite a bit, probably since they're from
> > different folks over different years.
> 
> I keep meaning to pull out the X10 specific code from lib/Serial_Item.pm, to
> give a nice clean template.  To start with, maybe use lib/X10_MR26.pl.
> Later maybe we can work offline to get it fully integrated.

Any progress on the ACT TI103-RS232 driver? I didn't find anything in
the misterhouse-2.86 src. 

-piet

> 
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On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 03:37, Piet Delaney wrote: 
> On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:20, Joe Blecher wrote:
> > Piet,
> > 
> > The Lynx10PLC is capable of scenes/new extended commands as well as much
> > more. The latest version of the Lynx10PLC.pm file (2.85) now sends the
> > "extended command 1" commands instead of the older pre-dim commands. I
> > initially wrote the module giving it capabilities that I needed and didn't
> > implement the full suite of commands. With the help of Craig Schaffer, the
> > module is maturing and now supports proxy mode and RCS thermostats. I have
> > the API documentation from Marrick for the Lynx10PLC that I can forward to
> > you (and any others that are interested in helping) if you want to add the
> > scene capability to the module.
> 
> Sounds like a good idea, send the API documentation. If it looks even
> remotely possible to do the leviton scene commands I'll get a Lynx10PLC 
> from http://www.worthdist.com and hopefully make some progress
> on control of the living room scene switches. 

I posted this a few hours ago but haD too many folks on the Cc: 
list and it got put into a moderator queue. I thought I'd just post 
it again without the Cc: list in case it takes a long time for the 
original to get posted. I thought it would be better for maintaining 
the discussion of the problem I read about at the Marrick web site 
with the use of the LynX-10 computer interface with Leviton switches: 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 				Posted Missive 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
I visited the Marrick Web Site and read over their documentation. 
I found what appears to be a HUGE PROBLEM. 
                             ============ 


It seems the Marrick computer interface uses the old TW-523 
X-10 hardware interface. This piece of crap can't receive extended 
commands. See page 13 of: 

              http://www.marrickltd.com/_files/Manuals/MAN103_200.pdf

so although the LynX-10 firmware supports the extended commands it 
appears to interface to hardware that can. 

So, If I'm right, Leviton users (victims?) are still up the crick 
without a paddle. 

Sigh! Someone please show me that I'm wrong! 

I'm going to call Marrick: 

                407-323-4467 

hopefully tomorrow, and confirm the bad news. I'm Bcc'ing: 

                sa...@ma...
and 
                su...@ma...

perhaps they shed some light on this problem and/or pass this problem 
onto eng...@ma....
        
I was so hopping that that th LynX-10 was going to solve my problems. 
I wonder why someone doesn't make an up to date version of the TW-523 
that can receive extended commands. I wonder if someone has a patent 
preventing it; like Levition. If so, XTC798 doesn't deserve to be an 
X-10 standard. 

-piet 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> 
> 
> >                                       I am not sure how "scenes" have been
> > implemented in MH from the top view,  but I'm willing to implement the code
> > if someone can describe how it's done.
> 
> I'm afraid the infrastructure for scenes doesn't exist and needs to be
> added. I had some thoughts but I'd imagine Bruce would be the expert in
> this area. The scene switches are all basically the same in general 
> functionality. You have a bunch of lights in a range of addresses, say
> A1...A10 and a couple of scene selectors at at A15. So someone presses
> Scene 1 and holds it down. Once it starts blinking you go to switchs A1
> thru A10 and set their levels for that scene. Now you press the scene
> button again and the lights at A1 ... A10 remember the association
> between the scene and the intensities. The protocol isn't documented
> but I recall the scene switch sending commands to all possible addresses
> for it's range say A1...A15.  Leviton only quotes the xtc798 spec which
> isn't a very enlightening spec and the implementation is difficult. Some
> of the commands seem to be address relative.
> 
> 
> > 
> > BTW: The Lynx10PLC has been rock solid for me in the almost four years since
> > I purchased it.
> 
> Good to head, the cm11 has been a major disappointment and the
> complexity of the xtc798 spec a similar disappointment. I'm use
> to working on more industrial protocols like tcp, ip, NFS, XDR,
> osi, .... 
> 
> -piet
> 
> > 
> > HTH,
> > 
> > Joe Blecher
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Piet Delaney" <pi...@ww...>
> > To: <mis...@li...>; "Bruce Winter"
> > <br...@mi...>
> > Cc: <mis...@bl...>; "piet" <pi...@ww...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:02 AM
> > Subject: Support for Leviton Scene Extended Commands (xtc798) - anythingthat
> > replaces the old cm11?
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi Gang:
> > >
> > > I was wondering if there is an alternate available with the reliability
> > > of the Lynx10PLC but with the flexibility of the cm11; being capable of
> > > sending all extended commands, including the new extended commands used
> > > by Leviton.
> > >
> > > I started hacking the MH cm11 code to support the new extended commands
> > > but I got busy at work and my cm11 seems to be almost dead. It's
> > > dying with the checksum problem. The cm11 seems like a poor computer
> > > interface to bother with. I was hopping that by now someone would have
> > > come up with a reliable alternate.
> > >
> > > I looked over the Lynx10PLC module and it appears to only support the
> > > old pre-dim extended commands and not the 'new' xtc797/xtc798 scene
> > > commands. These new xtc798 extended commands do seem rather obfuscated
> > > but I hoped it might still be salvageable.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or suggestions? Anyone know if I'm wrong about the
> > > Lynx10PLC device?
> > >
> > > -piet
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
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Thanks gregg,

my theta (and theta.bin) is found in opt/theta/bin .. Same  output that you 
got.
I am using version 2.5  of theta, and the theta bin directory is in my 
path.  I'm also running this on linux (fedora distro)  I'm also using alsa 
since mythTV requires it .

I've got 3 sound cards (snd-emu10k1, snd-intel8x0, and bttv)  I've unloaded 
the modules for the intel and bttv and the theta still wouldn't work work.

Version information:
Theta  version 2.5
ALSA version 1.0.0.rc2
MH 2.86

I turned off the default sound prefix and still no luck.

Any other thoughts?

Marty



At 10:29 PM 12/28/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Martin,
>
>         The voice_text_theta param refers to the theta engine binary.  By 
> default, it is installed (on Linux distros) at /opt/theta/bin/theta.
>For example, on my system:
>
>[gliming@baltar lib]$ whereis theta
>theta: /opt/theta/bin/theta.bin /opt/theta/bin/theta
>
>         On what platform are you running your theta engine?  If it's 
> something other than linux or if you've redirected the default install 
> directory, then you should update your local voice_text_theta param 
> accordingly.
>
>         If the above doesn't address your problem and you're running 
> Linux, then perhaps there's a conflict with your sound device.  Are you 
> using a default sound file to "prefix" your voices?  If so, consider 
> temporarily disabling them. FWIW: I used to have various "simultaneous 
> sound issues" until moving to Alsa.

Ryan Phillips wrote:
 > I have been toying around with misterhouse on windows  XP, and I think I
 > am ready to set things up on a more permanent platform.  I was wondering
 > if there is a certain distribution of Linux that is preferable to others
 > for use with misterhouse.

There's also FreeBSD (and NetBSD and OpenBSD).

/usr/ports/ (/usr/pkgsrc in netbsd) is a fantastic way to handle
3rd party (non-OS) packages.  No playing "find the RPM" or "match
the right library" or even have to trust someone else's build.

You build from source, it finds and builds dependencies, packages it
and installs it.

Every file on the system has a man page (my chief irk with linux - what
is the 'nd.conf' file?  What shoudl be in it?  etc).

And I build from source.

If I want (say) PINE (email reader), I type
   cd /usr/ports/mail/pine; make && make install


I just offer it as an alternative (linux is not the only non-proprietary
choice).

Since upgrading to 2.85, and using the new mp3 player control, I have not
been able to get my playlists to work like they used to. I have several
.m3u files that are actually links to internet radio stations. I use these
all the time. I used to be able to click on mp3 jukebox and see those
playlists, all I had to do was click on them and they would play. Now,
whenever I do, it loads the playlist but does not play it, when I look at
winamp the only thing queued is 1.musicGrooveSalad I can't even select
play through the web interface or winamp and get them to play. However, I
can manually open those same m3u files in winamp and they play fine.
   Here is another odd occurrence. When I browse to the music category and
try and "Set house mp3 player to playlist GrooveSalad" Winamp starts
playing it immediately. I have tried both wactrl and httpq and the issue
seems to be with the new web interface. Any ideas?
       -Daniel

Apparently I'm a little dense today. Had some bad perl in my code directory
that was causing the problem.  I don't know why it didn't cause a problem
previously...

Sorry to bother y'all.  We now return to our previously scheduled program.

Happy holidays to all.

Joel
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Austin, TX
jr...@io...

On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 23:36:12 -0600, Tim Wilson wrote:

> Hi *,
> 
> I've purchased a CM11A and a few X10 split receptacles 
> (http://smarthome.com/2040.html). I've read the basic documentation 
> include the FAQs, but I'm not sure how or where to configure these 
> devices so that MH can begin controlling them. Perhaps I'm being dense, 
> but I feel like I'm missing some of the "big picture" of MH. I'm sure 
> it will come with time, but this Python programmer is feeling a bit 
> lost in all of this perl. :-) Any advice or pointers to more specific 
> documentation would be appreciated.
> 
> -Tim

Tim,
  I have found decent documentation for MH to be very hard to come by.
Hopefully, I can type some good stuff up once I get the hang of everything
:)
For now, some of the best advice I can give you is that the web interface
for MH is very good. Most of the setup and controls can be found under Mr.
House Home (on the interface main page) there you can edit the ini files
in an easy manner and edit the items (X-10 modules) in your MHT file. The
settings and even trigger event setups can be found under the setup
section in Mr. House home....hope this helps some.
           -Daniel

Hi *,

I've purchased a CM11A and a few X10 split receptacles 
(http://smarthome.com/2040.html). I've read the basic documentation 
include the FAQs, but I'm not sure how or where to configure these 
devices so that MH can begin controlling them. Perhaps I'm being dense, 
but I feel like I'm missing some of the "big picture" of MH. I'm sure 
it will come with time, but this Python programmer is feeling a bit 
lost in all of this perl. :-) Any advice or pointers to more specific 
documentation would be appreciated.

-Tim

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I'm on 2.82, I only have a habit of upgrading when something interesting 
changes.  :)
> 
> Are all of the caddx users on current 2.86 code?
> Steve-- did you work around the problem reported last Feb?
> 
> Bill Sobel helpfully replied to an inquiry that I posted regarding the 
> default_setstate code, but I apparently tabled the issue.
> 
> Chris.
> 

Greg

Hi everyone,

I'm just getting MH installed and have been working on getting some of 
the initial configuration done. I'm afraid that I've gotten a bit stuck 
with the TV listings. No matter what I've tried, the Web interface 
continues to show Bruce's Charter cable listings. In wonder if someone 
can offer a suggestion about how to get this working.

Here's my very simple mh.private.ini file for reference:

beethoven:/usr/local/misterhouse# cat mh.private.ini
# Misterhouse configuration file

code_dir=/usr/local/misterhouse/code
data_dir=/usr/local/misterhouse/data
sound_dir=/usr/local/misterhouse/sounds
latitude=45.161
longitude=-93.235
date_format=mmddyyyy
city=Blaine
zip_code=55449
local_area_code=763,612,651,952
internet_speak_flag=none

# TV Settings
cable_provider = 68287
cable_provider_name=Comcast North Metro - Blaine
cable_hours=all
cable_name = Cable
cable_label=Cable
cable_channels_keep=2,4,5,10,11,25,99

Running get_tv_grid tonight gave me:

beethoven:/usr/local/misterhouse/mh/bin# ./get_tv_grid -reget
Files will be stored to ./../web/tv
Tieing to /usr/local/misterhouse/data/tv_programs.dbm
Deleting old data from 2 days ago: 12/26 ...
Couldn't find TV provider 'Charter Communications - Rochester'
Login failed!: -1
Grid Update failed

When I  use the "-db cable" command line option to get_tv_grid it 
appears to work and gives:

beethoven:/usr/local/misterhouse/mh/bin# ./get_tv_grid -db cable
Files will be stored to ./../web/cable
Tieing to /usr/local/misterhouse/data/cable_programs.dbm
Deleting old data from 2 days ago: 12/26 ...
Login complete!
Requesting data for 12/28/2003 at 02 for 4 hours
Verified: ./../web/cable/download/12_28_02_4.html
6976 records with 6801 grid records were read. 38 programs stored for 7 
channels.
Requesting data for 12/28/2003 at 06 for 4 hours
Verified: ./../web/cable/download/12_28_06_4.html
7081 records with 6900 grid records were read. 44 programs stored for 7 
channels.

...and so on until the complete listings are retrieved.

In any event, the results are the same and I continue to see the 
Rochester, MN cable listings.

-Tim

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On Dec 28, 2003, at 3:44 PM, Rob Williams wrote:

> Chris,
> I'd also be interested in using the new code when you get around to
> releasing it.  I'm mostly interested in some auto arming.
>
> -Rob

I seem to have (re)found the snag.  There are 2 different local copies 
of the caddx changes on my local machine.   I merged them together, and 
was testing them when I found the issue--

The generic_item default_setstate mods introduced in 2.78 (and reported 
as broken by Steve S back in Feb) aren't co-operating with the caddx 
code.  I'll try to work thru the issues before getting distracted 
again...

Are all of the caddx users on current 2.86 code?
Steve-- did you work around the problem reported last Feb?

Bill Sobel helpfully replied to an inquiry that I posted regarding the 
default_setstate code, but I apparently tabled the issue.

Chris.

I finally got around to updating from 2.77, and I'm seeing the following
errors on startup.  Anyone have any ideas what's going on?  Thanks.

Joel
--
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Austin, TX
jr...@io...

--------------------
Error in user code file /home/hac/mh/data/mh_temp.user_code

  12/28/03 10:30:40 PM: Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2338.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2345.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2355.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2362.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2369.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2376.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2383.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2390.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2397.
Global symbol "$iridium_timer" requires explicit package name at (eval 374) line 2404.
Line 2333:     }
Line 2334:     my $benchmark_tickcount = &get_tickcount if $Benchmark_Members{on_off_flag};
Line 2335:  
Line 2336:  #@ Auto-generated from code/common/internet_iridium.pl
Line 2337:
Line 2338:          if ($New_Second and my $time_left = int seconds_remaining $iridium_timer) {
Line 2339:            my %iridium_timer_intervals = map {$_, 1} (15,30,90);
Line 2340:            if ($iridium_timer_intervals{$time_left}) {
Line 2341:               my $pitch = int 10*(1 - $time_left/60);
Line 2342:               speak "app=timer pitch=$pitch $time_left seconds till flash";
Line 2343:            }

Hi Martin,

	The voice_text_theta param refers to the theta engine binary.  By 
default, it is installed (on Linux distros) at /opt/theta/bin/theta.  
For example, on my system:

[gliming@baltar lib]$ whereis theta
theta: /opt/theta/bin/theta.bin /opt/theta/bin/theta

	On what platform are you running your theta engine?  If it's something 
other than linux or if you've redirected the default install directory, 
then you should update your local voice_text_theta param accordingly.

	If the above doesn't address your problem and you're running Linux, 
then perhaps there's a conflict with your sound device.  Are you using 
a default sound file to "prefix" your voices?  If so, consider 
temporarily disabling them. FWIW: I used to have various "simultaneous 
sound issues" until moving to Alsa.

Gregg

On Dec 28, 2003, at 8:53 PM, martin Dolphin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently moved my MisterHouse to a new system and installed the 
> Cepstral voices.  Everything else seems to have switched over pretty 
> well.  However I can't seem to get the cepstral voices working with 
> Misterhouse.  I had festival working on the old system however it was 
> on such a slow system (300/celron)  that the voice would announce the 
> call after the phone was picked up or went to voicemail (4th ring)    
> I can get the theta application to work from the command line.  With 
> both the Emily and Frank voice.   Every time I attempt to 
> haveMisterhouse speak I get the 'Can not  speak for engine=theta'   
> error message...    Looking at the voice_text.pm it looks like this is 
> the message if Misterhouse can't get use of the card because of 
> voice_cmd using it .   my voice_cmd INI files are blank..
>
>  Is there something I am missing?
>
> Thanks
> Marty
>
>
> Log entries from MH.log  (with debug set to voice)  that seem to 
> relate to speaking.....
>
> db1 set voice cmd Voice_Cmd=HASH(0x98d17dc) to Check set_by=time r=time
> Stargate Variable #10 state change to 1
> db app=phone t=rooms=all_and_out mode=unmuted k=rooms v=all_and_out.
> db app=phone t=rooms=all_and_out mode=unmuted k=mode v=unmuted.
> running: play /opt/MisterHouse/sounds/sound_trek1.wav
> Setting mode to unmuted
> Voice_Text volume=70, mh_volume=60
> input  phrase is 'Call from Murphy, E       '
> output phrase is 'Call from Murphy, E       '
> Can not speak for engine=theta: Phrase=Call from Murphy, E
>
>
> mh.private.ini  entries
>
>
> speak_engine=theta
> speak_volume=70
> speak_to_file=w_tts
> voice_names=male=>Frank, female=>Emily,male1=>Frank, Male2=>Frank, 
> female1=>emily, Female2=>Emily, mary=>emily, Mike=>frank, sam=>frank
> voice_text=theta
>
> this entry seems to be saved into mh.ini  (every time)
>
> voice_text_theta        = /opt/theta/bin/theta
>
>
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Hi,

I recently moved my MisterHouse to a new system and installed the Cepstral 
voices.  Everything else seems to have switched over pretty well.  However 
I can't seem to get the cepstral voices working with Misterhouse.  I had 
festival working on the old system however it was on such a slow system 
(300/celron)  that the voice would announce the call after the phone was 
picked up or went to voicemail (4th ring)    I can get the theta 
application to work from the command line.  With both the Emily and Frank 
voice.   Every time I attempt to haveMisterhouse speak I get the 'Can 
not  speak for engine=theta'   error message...    Looking at the 
voice_text.pm it looks like this is the message if Misterhouse can't get 
use of the card because of voice_cmd using it .   my voice_cmd INI files 
are blank..

  Is there something I am missing?

Thanks
Marty


Log entries from MH.log  (with debug set to voice)  that seem to relate to 
speaking.....

db1 set voice cmd Voice_Cmd=HASH(0x98d17dc) to Check set_by=time r=time
Stargate Variable #10 state change to 1
db app=phone t=rooms=all_and_out mode=unmuted k=rooms v=all_and_out.
db app=phone t=rooms=all_and_out mode=unmuted k=mode v=unmuted.
running: play /opt/MisterHouse/sounds/sound_trek1.wav
Setting mode to unmuted
Voice_Text volume=70, mh_volume=60
input  phrase is 'Call from Murphy, E       '
output phrase is 'Call from Murphy, E       '
Can not speak for engine=theta: Phrase=Call from Murphy, E


mh.private.ini  entries


speak_engine=theta
speak_volume=70
speak_to_file=w_tts
voice_names=male=>Frank, female=>Emily,male1=>Frank, Male2=>Frank, 
female1=>emily, Female2=>Emily, mary=>emily, Mike=>frank, sam=>frank
voice_text=theta

this entry seems to be saved into mh.ini  (every time)

voice_text_theta        = /opt/theta/bin/theta

Well, when I moved into my house I attached an electrical outlet to my
breaker box.  That came in real handy with Christmas lights -- I have no
idea how the previous owners put them up.  The only other outlet in the
front of the house is right by the front door.

So, now I want to put a few outlets under the eve of my roof in the
front of the house.  At first I was just going to install them like
normal -- run some romex off of an under-utilized circuit and install
several new outlets in metal boxes.

But then I started thinking -- it already took four X10 modules to
control the lights this year.  So, I would ideally like to be able
to turn all of these new outlets on and off through one X10 module.  

So, are there any ideas on how I should accomplish this?  I'm doing the
wiring, so I can do anything I would like to.  One thought I had was to
connect all of the outlets together and then hook on a three-pronged
plug and plug it into a 15A appliance module.  But I'm not sure if that
is up to code and it might be a bit strange if we sell the place.

Perhaps a better idea is to use a Leviton 15A inline relay module.  It
looks like it can fit inside of a round box.  I could install such a box
in the attic just for this module and then run the wire out to the
outlets.  When I ever move out I can just open up the box and remove the
inline module if I so desire.

My only concern with that last (seemingly ideal) solution is -- can the
inline relay module handle the temperatures in a Phoenix attic in the
summer (I would guess up to 140F)?

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