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Just installed Misterhouse on my XP Pro machine
It talks fine...
but I get the following error message

Error, X10 interface not found: interface=3D, data=3DXA1
etc for a few lines

Does this mean I am not pointing to my CM11 somewhere in the tables??
I have set CM11_port=3DCOM1 in the mh.ini file - Is there another spot? =
should the COM1 port speed etc be set?

I cannot affect any of the X10 light controllers that work under =
ActiveHome ok

Thanks
Dan

Alan,
Well to change the output direction you should only have to swap pins 5 =
and 6 so that the output stage operates as an inverter. However from =
your description it is not operating as I expected ( I expected the =
output to go high when the light was shone on the sensor) so I may be =
wrong on this. Perhaps someone else can explain it to me. Could the IC =
be damaged?
The other way of changing it is to swap over the sensor and the 10k =
resistor.
Also it is not really meant to drive a LED, so it might be an idea to =
increase the LED resistor to 1k which will make your output low lower.
Baz

Alan Womack  wrote,
>I need to change my output from being high, dropped low, to being low =
brought
>high so that the DS1994 iButton will register the over 5v condition as =
a pulse.

>What changes do I need to make to the circuit for this? The iButton =
needs to
>see a low signal inorder for the bus to be read by the DS9097U.

Listmates

Just wanted to alert you to another device, the ibutton switch  DS2406.  It
is a remote controlled switch that is supported by misterhouse.  Use the
set_switch command in iButton:Devices.  With this you can put switches
anywhere on your iButton network.

Actual hardware implementation is simple, requiring the switch, an opto
isolator and a relay (with perhaps a driver transistor).  I have them
operating a blower for my wood stove and am adding temperature control too,
since the thermometers are already in place on the 1-wire network.


Don Wilde.

I have an early Delorme unit (I think it was a tripmate). The output is =
not non-standard; it is a "binary" rather than ASCII format. You can =
google and find an adapter, for about $50 I think, which will convert =
that into the ASCII NEMA format. But, I think you made the right choice =
in shelling out for the Garmin. I'll never buy anything from Delorme =
again.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: R P [mailto:nericus%yah...@fw...]
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:22 AM
To: misterhouse-users
Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Delorme "Tripmate" GPS


Keep in mind that Delorme uses it's own protocol so
the standard NMEA decoding is worthless.   I was
unable to get the Delorme Earthmate to talk with
anything outside of a Delorme mapping application. =20
Wound up just giving up and shelled out the $$$ for a
Garmin.


--- Mike Warner <sto...@ya...> wrote:
> I just saw an ad for a Delorme "Tripmate" GPS for
> $20.  I've seen that
> Brian Klier has used one of these in his camaro for
> tracking.  I'd like to
> use it for those same purposes, but am a bit foggy
> as to how to connect it
> to my MH.  I see the list of parts he used in the
> car, though.  Anybody
> know what I'll need on the PC side?
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> Mike
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Keep in mind that Delorme uses it's own protocol so
the standard NMEA decoding is worthless.   I was
unable to get the Delorme Earthmate to talk with
anything outside of a Delorme mapping application.  
Wound up just giving up and shelled out the $$$ for a
Garmin.


--- Mike Warner <sto...@ya...> wrote:
> I just saw an ad for a Delorme "Tripmate" GPS for
> $20.  I've seen that
> Brian Klier has used one of these in his camaro for
> tracking.  I'd like to
> use it for those same purposes, but am a bit foggy
> as to how to connect it
> to my MH.  I see the list of parts he used in the
> car, though.  Anybody
> know what I'll need on the PC side?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
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ok, "I" have the circuit working thanks to Butch's feedback on how to set the =
potentiometer.  I think if I hooked it up to the PP port it might work =
actually.

Now I need to make a tweak with some assistance for the ibutton.  My output on =
pin 7, with the potetiometer tweaked just so is 2.27 volts.  When I hit the =
photo cell the output drops to under 1 volt.

If I tweak the pot to bring pin 7 high to 6.3 volts, I then can shine the =
pointer to drop to just over 5 volts.  I supposed if I drop my power supply =
voltage down some more, I could get a below 5 volt supply when the pointer is =
on there.

I need to change my output from being high, dropped low, to being low brought =
high so that the DS1994 iButton will register the over 5v condition as a pulse.

What changes do I need to make to the circuit for this?  The iButton needs to =
see a low signal inorder for the bus to be read by the DS9097U.

Thanks
Alan

Where did you see this for $20?

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Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 9:00 PM
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Subject: [misterhouse-users] Delorme "Tripmate" GPS


I just saw an ad for a Delorme "Tripmate" GPS for $20.  I've seen that
Brian Klier has used one of these in his camaro for tracking.  I'd like to
use it for those same purposes, but am a bit foggy as to how to connect it
to my MH.  I see the list of parts he used in the car, though.  Anybody
know what I'll need on the PC side?

Thanks,
Mike

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I just saw an ad for a Delorme "Tripmate" GPS for $20.  I've seen that
Brian Klier has used one of these in his camaro for tracking.  I'd like to
use it for those same purposes, but am a bit foggy as to how to connect it
to my MH.  I see the list of parts he used in the car, though.  Anybody
know what I'll need on the PC side?

Thanks,
Mike

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Robert Rozman wrote:

>- are there any free visual talking heads (facial animations) for Linux that
>could be used with MH and TTS ?
>  
>
Hi Robert,

I know there are a few windows-based talking head applications that can 
be synchronized with synthesized speech. I am not aware of any 
pre-packaged talking head applications that will run on Linux using 
Festival or ViaVoice for synthesys. That's why last January I undertook 
a project to develop a system do so. The system uses Festival to 
generate synthesized speech and extract phoneme information from a 
speech request. This info is passed along to any number of connected 
Java 'face' clients that play back the synthesized audio clip in 
synchronization with the appropriate 'viseme' for the associated phoneme.

The system was designed specifically for a mobile robot, and is much of 
it is a big kludge, but you are welcome to it:

Java face applet
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Perl voiceServer
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Perl CGI-based voice cue front-end
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Perl POE-based face applet client
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Tweaking your inner geek.

Brad larson wrote:
> What is the difference between the DS1820,DS18S20,DS1920,DS19S20?


Here's the easiest way to determine the differences - just
click on the 'temperature sensors' link and you can look at
the individual spec sheets.

The differences are in resolution, how they are powered
(parasitic versus a separate power lead), package type. etc.

http://www.maxim-ic.com/1-Wire.cfm

What is the difference between the DS1820,DS18S20,DS1920,DS19S20?

Keith Webb wrote:

> I'm about to place an order for DS18S20 temp sensors and noticed quite a
> difference in price based on quantity:
>
>  1-24   5.04ea
>  25-49  3.80ea
>  50-?   2.28ea
>
> Maybe as a group, we could order 50+ sensors to enjoy the cost savings.
> If you are interested, send a message to my email address (not the list)
> and I'll update the list with the tally.  I'm willing to pass the sensors
> at same cost, you pay for your choice of shipping.
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I'm about to place an order for DS18S20 temp sensors and noticed quite a
difference in price based on quantity:

 1-24   5.04ea
 25-49  3.80ea
 50-?   2.28ea

Maybe as a group, we could order 50+ sensors to enjoy the cost savings.
If you are interested, send a message to my email address (not the list)
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Hello,
   I'm running version 2.73 on Windows NT 4.0 currently. After 11:00 PM, =
once the main downstairs motion timer expires (assumes we've all gone to =
bed, no longer on main floor) MH goes to mute mode, and drops the volume =
to 50%. After 6:00 AM, once motion is first detected on the main floor, =
it comes out of mute mode, and raises to 60% volume. After 8:30 AM, =
volume is raised to 100%.

   The problem I'm having, is the volume is never lower than full =
volume. If I edit the mh.private.ini parm, the volume level changes. =
Running the "test volume at 60" voice command works perfectly.

Here's a sample few lines from my auto_mute.pl file:

if (time_now '8 pm') {
  $config_parms{sound_volume} =3D 80;
  $Save{sleeping_kids} =3D 1;
}

Saving a new volume level seems to be ignored.

Does anyone else have the same experience?

Steve

Alan,
You are right in needing +ve on pin 8, and 0v on pin 4. Also you do need =
a ground to tthe computer to complete the circuit as you suggested.
The NTE 943 is a comparator, and can run from 5v to 30v see data sheet =
http://www.nteinc.com/specs/900to999/NTE943.html
Your circuit is designed to give pulses when the light level changes; it =
is not intended to show two states, light and dark.
Under steady light conditions pin 2 is at half voltage so adjust the =
potentiometer to make pin 3  just below half voltage. Pin 1 will be low =
because pin 2 ( inverting input) is higher than 3, but pin 7 follows pin =
5 ( non inverting input to second stage), so pin 7 is low and LED is on.
( the reason you 'are always high' is probably because you have set the =
potentiometer to make pin 3 higher than half voltage)
Shine a light on the cell and it reduces resistance so pin 2 gets pulled =
low, 3 goes high, 7 goes high and the LED is off, but only while the =
22uf capacitor is charging. So you only get the LED off for a while.
If you want it to stay showing the light level, instead of a pulse, just =
remove the 10k resistor and the 22uf capacitor.
You didn't say which light cell you use but if you can get an ORP12, =
it's been around for 30 years and still the best device around.
(Also because this circuit is designed to only give high or low output, =
not progressive,  don't bother to try feeding it into an analogue =
input.)
Baz

 >>  i've been reading with some interest folks on this list talking about=20
 >>  ibuttons.  i went to the ibutton site, but i'm pretty confused.  i wonder
 >>  if=20
 >>  anyone has any kind of brief How To with how they intergrated an ibutton
 >>  in=20
 >>  to mh.

 Misterhouse knows how to talk to the ibutton hardware with a module that is =
already built in. You set up a ini parameter to tell it which serial port to =
talk with the DS9097U adapter.

 >>  like what ibutton, how you wire it, what it hooks to, and how mh=20
 >>  reads it.  For those of us that don't know the first thing about it..

I have DS1920's outside in the phone box, one in the bathroom under the counter =
ledge, one in my furnance return duct, one in my furnance outflow duct.  A cat =
5 wire runs to each ibutton to supply a data wire and a ground wire.  The wire =
then continues to the next ibutton, so it's like a snake.  I have opted to make =
short stubs from my main ibutton wire.

 >>  i'd love to know the temperature at certain spots in my house, like for=20
 >>  example right next to my computer here - it gets very hot, i could trigger
 >>  a=20
 >>  fan when it reaches a high temp.

I have my outside ibutton temperature showing on the web interface status line, =
I am going to modify my car block heater code to turn it on longer when it is =
below 40 degrees or so.

There are a couple of links in the mh docs also.  They are quite simple.

To get started:

DS9097U-db9  (if you have 9 pin db serial ports)
several DS1920's temperature sensors
Cat 5 cable to run from your DS9097U to your ibuttons.  The DS9097U requires a =
RJ-11 (regular phone jack) to connect to the wire with, a RJ-45 will not fit.

Alan

i've been reading with some interest folks on this list talking about 
ibuttons.  i went to the ibutton site, but i'm pretty confused.  i wonder if 
anyone has any kind of brief How To with how they intergrated an ibutton in 
to mh.  like what ibutton, how you wire it, what it hooks to, and how mh 
reads it.  For those of us that don't know the first thing about it..

i'd love to know the temperature at certain spots in my house, like for 
example right next to my computer here - it gets very hot, i could trigger a 
fan when it reaches a high temp.


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Ok, but this will be an option right?
Not replace my entire work?
The font is just plain old Arial.


Ron.

Gaetan linny Lord(ga...@sg...)@Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:43:20AM -0500:
> Ron,
> 
> Forget it, I manage to extract all the icons from your button, and convert
> them in PNG with transparency.
> 
> By this week-end, I should release 2 perl script. The first one will allow us
> to generate new button by keeping the same look and fell as yours.  The only
> difference are the font. For now I'm using the internal GD font. The next
> release will probably use ttf font. I have to test this before. BTW, what
> font are you using.
> 
> The second script is basically the same, but allow you to output directly,
> in misterhouse, button on-the-fly.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:26:16AM +0100, Ron Klinkien wrote:
> > 
> > Gaetan,
> > 
> > I will try to write a ImageMagick script to convert my gfx dirs all at ones,
> > the gfx currently consists of seperate gifs and jpgs, but they are not
> > resized (i have done that while importing them into the png buttons.
> > 
> > You have to output the combined png's to gif then to make them display
> > on our Audrey's
> > 
> > 
> > But, I have just got an Geforce 4 Ti4600 card so I cannot work 
> > that much on MH the coming days, It's more UT, and Medal of Honor
> > instead of MH :-)))
> > Those graphics are 'slightly' more impressive than my ia5 interface!
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Ron.
> > Gaetan linny Lord(ga...@sg...)@Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:09:13AM -0500:
> > > Hi Ron,
> > > 
> > > I'm currently testing a new program to autogenerate button. The main idea,
> > > is to generate button, by picking the icon, and  the text. I wonder if it's
> > > possible for you to generate, only icons, and a blank template , png (256
> > > colors) ideally. My program deal with png to permit transparency, but could
> > > output other format.
> > > 
> > > The main idea is to have a generic template, and do a call like
> > > 
> > > <a href='/https/sourceforge.net/graph/Exterieur.jpg'>  
> > > <img src="/https/sourceforge.net/bin/GenButton.pl?Temp_Exterieur&ibutton.png" border="0"></a><br>
> > > 
> > > So people could add their own icons, to keep the look and feel.
> > > 
> > > For now, I'm dealing with GD font, text are right justified like your button.
> > > A miximum of 3 lines is allowed.
> > > 
> > > I'll probably distribute the code next week-end, unfortunatly, week are busy,
> > > so I can work on MH during the week-end only
> > > 
> > > I include images generated with default value. If no template are defined,
> > > then I create a very basic one, but because I love your interface, I'd love
> > > to get the same look and feel as yours.
> > > 
> > > Tx
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:05:55AM +0100, Ron Klinkien wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The last days I got requests for more ia5 graphics, mainly buttons.
> > > > 
> > > > Can you guys post whats missing now?
> > > > 
> > > > ie. the type of button (category, items, for browse buttons, main menu, lights)
> > > > and the Text you want.
> > > > 
> > > > I can create a bunch of new ones then...
> > > > 
> > > > I'm also thinking about creating a 2nd main menu with new main categories
> > > > like Kitchen and Internet...
> > > > 
> > > > Also create a menu option Setup/Configure MrHouse where 'Ini editor, Program IRMan
> > > > and Select code' will be placed under together with other relevant items.
> > > > This saves up menu space in other categories and make it more logical.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Ron Klinkien.
> > > > 
> > > > PS: I'm also interested in Online MrHouse setup's to browse through, to see what is missing
> > > > icon-wise... You can post the url private if you want.
> > > > 
> > > > PS2: I have ordered a bunch of X10 items (expensive here in Europe) so thats
> > > > the reason i'm spending some time on MrHouse, all of a sudden ;)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Monte Freeman(mo...@be...)@Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 07:51:32PM -0500:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  I'm starting to try to fill in missing graphics on my web page for things
> > > > > that I've defined that don't match up to the graphics in the ia5 look/theme
> > > > > that Bruce distributes.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Since I like how the ia5 interface looks, I want to keep new graphics along
> > > > > that same look/feel.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  I sent Ron Klinkien a message asking him for tips/suggestions on the ones he
> > > > > created, but it then occurred to me that there might be other users who have
> > > > > made their own custom graphics/buttons/etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  For those that have, and wouldn't mind sharing their creations with others;
> > > > > is there a place where we could start to collect them so that the rest of the
> > > > > group can see them?
> > > > > 
> > > > >  Since I am... how should I say.... Graphically Challanged...?  I'd much prefer
> > > > > to have graphics drawn by someone who knows which end of the crayon to color
> > > > > with than probably anything I could throw together. :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 	-Monte
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 >>  Your description leads me to suspect that you havent got power and ground
 >>  to
 >>  the chip.  Those connections are not shown in typical schematics, only the
 >>  signal lines.  There should be connections to two ther chip pins, one
 >>  power
 >>  and one ground.  Havent got a chip manual handy, so I cant tell you which
 >>  pins, but often opposite corners.

I thought that perhaps this might be the case and went ahead and connected pin =
8 to power and pin 4 to ground.  I just measured the voltage across them to be =
7.09v dc.

I also suspect there should be a ground line back from the computer?  Otherwise =
how does pin 7's circuit get closed?

Am I incorrect in my understanding this circuit should go HIGH when a light is =
strong on the photo cell and be LOW all other times?  It appears I am always =
HIGH.

Alan

What could be next to check on?

Thanks for the help, this will be a fun little toy when it functions.

Alan,

Your description leads me to suspect that you havent got power and ground to
the chip.  Those connections are not shown in typical schematics, only the
signal lines.  There should be connections to two ther chip pins, one power
and one ground.  Havent got a chip manual handy, so I cant tell you which
pins, but often opposite corners.

Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Womack" <arw...@wo...>
To: "Majordomo leben.com" <mis...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: [misterhouse-users] OT: power meter watch circuit


I have built the circuit based on the schematic attached.  I've double
checked my work twice, but am unable to make it function.

Where do I start for troubleshooting?  I have power 7.69v.

The two leads from the Cadmium sulfide cell are connected to a pair of
header pins.  One connected directly to ground, one goes to a "junction"
where a 100uf cap goes from + on the line side to ground (7.61 v shows).  A
10K ohm resistor goes from the line to 5V with the gold stripe to the line.
I show 7.84v on the brown end and 7.84 on the gold end.

Then comes a 22uf cap I have 3.1v here.  Then I hit a pair of 100K
resistors, one going to 5V (3.6v) the other to ground (4.2v) via  a cross
board ground.

Then I go to pin 2 of the opamp (4.2v)

Pin 1 from the opamp combines at solder point, a 1K (brown black red)
resistor going to power (7.4v)
Pint 1 at the solder point also has a 1M resistor connecting from jumpers
going from Pin1(7.55v) to pin3(7.55v),  jumpers from pin 3 to pin 6, and the
middle point on a 100K potentiometer (7.55v)

The poteniometer lines have 470k resistors, one to ground (.04v)   and 1 to
5V (7.56v)

pin1 also has a jumper to pin 5  (7.58v)

Pin 7 I get (5.81v)

If I apply a ground path for pin 7 I get the led to come on which comes from
pin 7 and goes to 5V.  But playing with the Cadmium cell I get no difference
in pin 7's behavor.

I know what the circuit is supposed to do, but not HOW it does it
technically.  I think I have built it correctly, but it is not doing it's
job.

Alan

Ron,

Forget it, I manage to extract all the icons from your button, and convert
them in PNG with transparency.

By this week-end, I should release 2 perl script. The first one will allow us
to generate new button by keeping the same look and fell as yours.  The only
difference are the font. For now I'm using the internal GD font. The next
release will probably use ttf font. I have to test this before. BTW, what
font are you using.

The second script is basically the same, but allow you to output directly,
in misterhouse, button on-the-fly.


On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:26:16AM +0100, Ron Klinkien wrote:
> 
> Gaetan,
> 
> I will try to write a ImageMagick script to convert my gfx dirs all at ones,
> the gfx currently consists of seperate gifs and jpgs, but they are not
> resized (i have done that while importing them into the png buttons.
> 
> You have to output the combined png's to gif then to make them display
> on our Audrey's
> 
> 
> But, I have just got an Geforce 4 Ti4600 card so I cannot work 
> that much on MH the coming days, It's more UT, and Medal of Honor
> instead of MH :-)))
> Those graphics are 'slightly' more impressive than my ia5 interface!
> 
> Regards,
> Ron.
> Gaetan linny Lord(ga...@sg...)@Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:09:13AM -0500:
> > Hi Ron,
> > 
> > I'm currently testing a new program to autogenerate button. The main idea,
> > is to generate button, by picking the icon, and  the text. I wonder if it's
> > possible for you to generate, only icons, and a blank template , png (256
> > colors) ideally. My program deal with png to permit transparency, but could
> > output other format.
> > 
> > The main idea is to have a generic template, and do a call like
> > 
> > <a href='/https/sourceforge.net/graph/Exterieur.jpg'>  
> > <img src="/https/sourceforge.net/bin/GenButton.pl?Temp_Exterieur&ibutton.png" border="0"></a><br>
> > 
> > So people could add their own icons, to keep the look and feel.
> > 
> > For now, I'm dealing with GD font, text are right justified like your button.
> > A miximum of 3 lines is allowed.
> > 
> > I'll probably distribute the code next week-end, unfortunatly, week are busy,
> > so I can work on MH during the week-end only
> > 
> > I include images generated with default value. If no template are defined,
> > then I create a very basic one, but because I love your interface, I'd love
> > to get the same look and feel as yours.
> > 
> > Tx
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:05:55AM +0100, Ron Klinkien wrote:
> > > 
> > > The last days I got requests for more ia5 graphics, mainly buttons.
> > > 
> > > Can you guys post whats missing now?
> > > 
> > > ie. the type of button (category, items, for browse buttons, main menu, lights)
> > > and the Text you want.
> > > 
> > > I can create a bunch of new ones then...
> > > 
> > > I'm also thinking about creating a 2nd main menu with new main categories
> > > like Kitchen and Internet...
> > > 
> > > Also create a menu option Setup/Configure MrHouse where 'Ini editor, Program IRMan
> > > and Select code' will be placed under together with other relevant items.
> > > This saves up menu space in other categories and make it more logical.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Ron Klinkien.
> > > 
> > > PS: I'm also interested in Online MrHouse setup's to browse through, to see what is missing
> > > icon-wise... You can post the url private if you want.
> > > 
> > > PS2: I have ordered a bunch of X10 items (expensive here in Europe) so thats
> > > the reason i'm spending some time on MrHouse, all of a sudden ;)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Monte Freeman(mo...@be...)@Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 07:51:32PM -0500:
> > > > 
> > > >  I'm starting to try to fill in missing graphics on my web page for things
> > > > that I've defined that don't match up to the graphics in the ia5 look/theme
> > > > that Bruce distributes.
> > > > 
> > > >  Since I like how the ia5 interface looks, I want to keep new graphics along
> > > > that same look/feel.
> > > > 
> > > >  I sent Ron Klinkien a message asking him for tips/suggestions on the ones he
> > > > created, but it then occurred to me that there might be other users who have
> > > > made their own custom graphics/buttons/etc.
> > > > 
> > > >  For those that have, and wouldn't mind sharing their creations with others;
> > > > is there a place where we could start to collect them so that the rest of the
> > > > group can see them?
> > > > 
> > > >  Since I am... how should I say.... Graphically Challanged...?  I'd much prefer
> > > > to have graphics drawn by someone who knows which end of the crayon to color
> > > > with than probably anything I could throw together. :)
> > > > 
> > > > 	-Monte
> > > > 
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On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 18:19, Sean Walker wrote:
> Amaury Jacquot writes: 
> 
> > Have you people tried the CMU project, Sphinx at : 
> > 
> > http://fife.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/
> Yes I have, have you? I'm currently implementing support for it in MH and am 
> looking for anyone with any experience with the language modeller tools. I 
> hope to not rewrite the tools. I'd much rather use the existing tools except 
> that they don't seem to work quite right. 
> 
>  -Sean
> 

Good to hear...
No, I just knew the project by name, but haven't had the time to set it
up / play with it

Sincerely

Amaury

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I have built the circuit based on the schematic attached.  I've double checked =
my work twice, but am unable to make it function.

Where do I start for troubleshooting?  I have power 7.69v.

The two leads from the Cadmium sulfide cell are connected to a pair of header =
pins.  One connected directly to ground, one goes to a "junction" where a 100uf =
cap goes from + on the line side to ground (7.61 v shows).  A 10K ohm resistor =
goes from the line to 5V with the gold stripe to the line.  I show 7.84v on the =
brown end and 7.84 on the gold end.

Then comes a 22uf cap I have 3.1v here.  Then I hit a pair of 100K resistors, =
one going to 5V (3.6v) the other to ground (4.2v) via  a cross board ground.

Then I go to pin 2 of the opamp (4.2v)

Pin 1 from the opamp combines at solder point, a 1K (brown black red) resistor =
going to power (7.4v)
Pint 1 at the solder point also has a 1M resistor connecting from jumpers going =
from Pin1(7.55v) to pin3(7.55v),  jumpers from pin 3 to pin 6, and the middle =
point on a 100K potentiometer (7.55v)

The poteniometer lines have 470k resistors, one to ground (.04v)   and 1 to 5V =
(7.56v)

pin1 also has a jumper to pin 5  (7.58v)

Pin 7 I get (5.81v)

If I apply a ground path for pin 7 I get the led to come on which comes from =
pin 7 and goes to 5V.  But playing with the Cadmium cell I get no difference in =
pin 7's behavor.

I know what the circuit is supposed to do, but not HOW it does it technically.  =
I think I have built it correctly, but it is not doing it's job.

Alan=20

The discharge temp gets to about 140F.  I'll post a sample control chart and the pl 
files to a web page in the next few days if you are interested.

Evan

On 27 Nov 2002 at 7:04, Alan Womack wrote:

> 
>  >>  Actually, I installed an i-button in the exhaust from the dryer so I can
>  >>  track discharge temperature during the drying cycle.

> 
> How hot does the dryer discharge get?
> 
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Amaury Jacquot writes: 

> Have you people tried the CMU project, Sphinx at : 
> 
> http://fife.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/
Yes I have, have you? I'm currently implementing support for it in MH and am 
looking for anyone with any experience with the language modeller tools. I 
hope to not rewrite the tools. I'd much rather use the existing tools except 
that they don't seem to work quite right. 

 -Sean

 >>  Actually, I installed an i-button in the exhaust from the dryer so I can
 >>  track discharge=20
 >>  temperature during the drying cycle. Initially I was trying to figure out
 >>  how the=20
 >>  "moisture meter" function on my dryer worked and then it sort of spiralled
 >>  out of=20
 >>  control from there...  I'm plotting the maximum temperature, maximum rate
 >>  of=20
 >>  temperature change, and cycle times on control charts.  I thought that
 >>  this might=20
 >>  give some indication of a duct plugging over time or other failure (who
 >>  knows?). =20
 >>  The rate of temperature change might be useful as some indication of the
 >>  dryness=20
 >>  of the clothes but I haven't looked at enough of the data to determine if
 >>  that will pan=20
 >>  out or not.  The "moisture meter" does this by measuring the amount of
 >>  time spent=20
 >>  above a certain temperature.

How hot does the dryer discharge get?