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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Chris Barrett wrote:

> I'm getting the same thing.  And until you mentioned it - I hadn't realised
> that it's only been happening since I started using the MOTION and PRESENCE
> objects.  If I do a Reload I get a heap of them in a block but I also get
> individual instances occasionally while MH is running.

Hmm, strange.  Do you get this with the latest Misterhouse?  If so, you
can turn on debugging for 'occupancy' and perhaps that will tell you how
it is happenening?

Hopefully it doesn't hurt anything... obviously I use the code
extensively and do not get this error.

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Larry,

I'm getting the same thing.  And until you mentioned it - I hadn't realised
that it's only been happening since I started using the MOTION and PRESENCE
objects.  If I do a Reload I get a heap of them in a block but I also get
individual instances occasionally while MH is running.

Chris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Roudebush" <lo...@co...>
To: "mh" <mis...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:01 AM
Subject: [misterhouse-users] Occupancy Monitor


>     I keep getting errors about my motion detector.  The error is ..
> Error, serial set called, but no serial port found: data=XB1BK.  In my
> mht file I have ..
>
> X10MS,  B1,  Stair,  Motion_Item|Upstairs|Stairs(13;1),  MS13
> MOTION, Stair, motion_stair
> PRESENCE, motion_stair, om, presence_Stair
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Larry
>
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    I keep getting errors about my motion detector.  The error is ..   
Error, serial set called, but no serial port found: data=XB1BK.  In my 
mht file I have ..

X10MS,  B1,  Stair,  Motion_Item|Upstairs|Stairs(13;1),  MS13
MOTION, Stair, motion_stair
PRESENCE, motion_stair, om, presence_Stair

Any Ideas?

Larry

On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 22:05 -0600, Bruce Winter wrote:

> 
> Thanks for the info!  I updated lib/http_server.pl to do what you suggested,
> specifying Last-Modified: in the header, then checking for If-Modified-Since
> requests on incoming data and returning a 304 if it has not changed.  Seems
> to be working great!   I actually got this changed last Friday, but then was
> gone all weekend so didn't have a chance to test it much.   Still haven't
> tested it too much, but I think it is working.

Excellent! Glad to be of some help.

In my capacity as a fumble fingered apprentice Linux admin, I managed to
wipe out my mail spools shortly after I made the last post to this
thread. I was wondering if I'd missed any traffic on this.  I also found
that this list doesn't seem to be archived. :-(

if (time_greater_than("$Time_Sunset + 0:30")){
       set_with_timer $bedroom_light '-60' ,5*60;
}
Produces:
Bad checksum in cm11 send: cs1=112 cs2=85. Will retry
03/31/04 05:27 X10: Outgoing data=XAGA-60
Bad checksum in cm11 send: cs1=112 cs2=85. Will retry
03/31/04 05:28 X10: Outgoing data=XAGA-60
This is on MH version 2.86 perl 5.006001and repoduced at $Time_sunrise + 
0:03

Mike

Bruce Winter wrote:

>>Yikes! I'm learning Linux (Debian) after window failed.  I've got
>>a month into trial and error with plenty
>>of manual reading. On to the point; I read in a MH doc somewhere
>>an example of coding ("$Time_Sunset +
>>0:30").  Doing so spit out a constant stream of checksum errors
>>after sunset. After digging around I pulled
>>out the 0: ("$Time_Sunset + 30") and it seem to be okay.
>>    
>>
>
>What was the function you were calling with that time string?   I think the
>0:30 should work, for adding 30 minutes to most time related tests.  I just
>tried this here and it worked ok:
>
>  print "Yep, dark out\n" if new_second and time_greater_than "$Time_Sunset
>+  0:30";
>
>  
>
>>Different topic; where do I look for "play" program?  I get sh:
>>play: command not found.  I think I get that
>>as root: also?
>>
>>Mike
>>    
>>
>
>On my RH 8 box, which shows it at /usr/bin/play .   You can point to a
>different program, or a specific path, with the mh.ini sound_program parm.
>
>Bruce
>
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I have seen this when you choose one specific format for your modem and 
then you run a test in a different format.  Each of those test case of 
the caller id point to different formats.  For me, since I am running 
callerid format 4, I can only select for a test  2 or 4 because I am 
guesing the nmbr comes before name.  But that has been a while ago.

Larry

Bruce Winter wrote:

>>I searched from 'data not parsed' on my dad's machine, and don't
>>find it either. i went back to his logs, though, and sure enough,
>>that's what it said when I
>>ran 'Test callerid 7'. I figured it might be text that MH is
>>concatenating together, buy i couldn't find the word 'parsed' in
>>either callerid.pl or phone.pl.
>>
>>do i need to install some external perl modules that i don't have?
>>
>>
>>scott reston
>>    
>>
>
>No, should not need any additional modules.   I'm stumped here.  I just did
>a windows search for 'a word or phrase in files' for parsed in all the files
>in the mh dir and did not find any code that would produce that message.
>I guess I'd recommend you try the same thing.  Maybe it is in an older mh
>distro or maybe some bad user code file you have.
>
>Bruce
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>

> Okay,  I've been running with the 'new' code and I think I understand
> this better now.
>
> There is a missing piece in the caching protocol that needs to be
> implemented in the server to make this work correctly.
>
> It looks like it works like this.
>
> If we've told the browser that a page has an expiry date (the old way),
> the browser won't bother to ask for it if it has the page in its cache
> before the expiry date, unless the user manually forces the reload. For
> some browsers doing a refresh works, I've found that the latest Mozilla
> for Linux will only refresh the main frame and won't reload pages linked
> from the frame if it has an unexpired page in it's cache. That's why I
> found I needed to flush the whole cache to see the new day's comics
> page.
>
> The new code tells the browser when the page was last modified. OK, but
> that isn't enough to tell the browser when it needs to get a new copy.
> The way that this works is that if the browser has a page in it's cache
> without an expiry time, it sends an http get request with a request
> header field If-Modified-Since with the modification time stamp for the
> copy it has in its cache.  This time stamp is in the same form as the
> time stamp we sent it in the Last-Modifed response header when we last
> sent it the page.
>
> If the server gets a get request with an If-Modified-Since header field,
> then it should check to see if the page has in fact been modified. If it
> has then it should reply normally, but if it hasn't it should respond
> with a status code of 304 indicating that the file has not been modified
> and that the browser is free to use the cached copy.
>
> Given enought time I could probably hack the code to do this, but you
> know the code structure a whole lot better.
>
> All of this is standard HTTP 1.0 as specified in rfc 1945
> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc1945/rfc1945

Thanks for the info!  I updated lib/http_server.pl to do what you suggested,
specifying Last-Modified: in the header, then checking for If-Modified-Since
requests on incoming data and returning a 304 if it has not changed.  Seems
to be working great!   I actually got this changed last Friday, but then was
gone all weekend so didn't have a chance to test it much.   Still haven't
tested it too much, but I think it is working.

If anyone wants this before the next release, you can pick it up here:

 http://misterhouse.net/mh/lib/http_server.pl

Bruce

> > So can you live with something like the Speak_parms_hooks, or 
> do you think
> > we should change code?
> 
> I think Speak_parms_hooks is fine as long as you can also add a
> Play_parms_hooks as well.
> 
> And after Play_parms_hooks do this:
> 
> @@ -3035,6 +3035,9 @@
>             if ($config_parms{mp3_program}) {
>                 $sound_program = $config_parms{mp3_program} if 
> ($file =~ /.mp3/);
>             }
> +       if ($parms{sound_program} ) {
> +                  $sound_program = $parms{sound_program};
> +       }
>              print "running: $sound_program $file\n";
>                                                                   
>            
>                                  # Greg Satz had problems with 
> MAC OS X zombies with system call here

Ok, got the Play_parms_hooks in there, along with the sound_program check.

Bruce

 

> > I think RUN is just for voice commands.  Try SUB instead.  You
> might have to
> > add a backslash in front of $music_kitchen so it doesn't get
> evaluated.  You
> > don't need the &.
>
> I just have to luck with this... :(
>
> I have tried both of these:
>
> http://mrhouse.kaybee.org:8080/SUB;selectvsource($music_kitchen,'les_mis')
>
> and
>
>
http://mrhouse.kaybee.org:8080/SUB;selectvsource(\$music_kitchen,'les_mis')

>All I get is "No data" in the resulting page.  The function doesn't
>appear to be called:

The string data passed via the url will get passed in exactly as is, so if
the first string represents the name of an object, your function will need
to do an eval on it.  Here is an example of how web/bin/button_action.pl
does it:

  eval qq|$item->set("$state", 'web')|;

To make sure SUB still worked, I just tried this function in some test user
code:

  sub selectvsource {
     my ($zone_obj, $vsource) = @_;
     return "<P>Test message. o=$zone_obj s=$vsource";
  }

And called it with:

 http://localhost:8091/SUB;selectvsource('hi','bye')

and I got a web page with this:

 Test message. o=hi s=bye

I don't use SUB much anymore as it is easier to call .pl functions directly,
like we do with all the files in mh/bin.   No need to reload code to debug,
simply change the .pl file then push the browser reload button.

Bruce

> Hi all,
>
> I have a machine running mh_proxy.  My mh_proxy.ini is below.
> I'm seeing data
> coming in from the MR26, but it doesn't look like any of the data
> is going
> out the cm11.  I can talk to the cm11 with Heyu but it doesn't seem to do
> anything when I send an on or off code.  I've done a heyu reset
> and set the
> house code, etc. so I'm not certain of whats happening here... any ideas?

I'd try adding debug=X10,proxy to your proxy and main mh.ini files, then see
what sort of output you get when you send X10 data out of each.  If still
stuck, feel free to send me some of the errata and I can help debug

Bruce

> Does anyone know why I'd be getting the following results on
> startup in the
> Win compiled version of MH?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\mh\bin>mh.bat
> Starting compiled mh.exe
> Perl 5.006 required--this is only version 5.00503, stopped at
> PERL2EXE_STORAGE/v
> ars.pm line 3.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at PERL2EXE_STORAGE/vars.pm line 3.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ..\mh\bin\mh line 6.
>
> This exe file was created with the evaluation version of Perl2Exe.
> For more information visit http://www.perl2exe.com
> (The full version does not display this message with a 2 second delay.)
> ...
> mh had an error on startup, will not restart
> C:\mh\bin>

This was my bad, in 2.88.   I re-installed my OS just before that release
and somehow messed up the compile process.   Instead of mh.bat or mh.exe,
try running mhe.bat instead.  That will use the version comipled with the
newer par compiler (same one we use in the linux mhe binary).    I'll fix
that mh.exe binary before the next release.

Since we are on the topic of windows binaries, those of you have tried both
mh.exe and mhe.exe have any votes as to which we should have as the default?
From what I've seen, I think mhe works better, and it uses the newer version
of perl, so I'm thinking it might be time to switch, and maybe even drop the
older mh.exe version.   Any objections?

Bruce

> Yikes! I'm learning Linux (Debian) after window failed.  I've got
> a month into trial and error with plenty
> of manual reading. On to the point; I read in a MH doc somewhere
> an example of coding ("$Time_Sunset +
> 0:30").  Doing so spit out a constant stream of checksum errors
> after sunset. After digging around I pulled
> out the 0: ("$Time_Sunset + 30") and it seem to be okay.

What was the function you were calling with that time string?   I think the
0:30 should work, for adding 30 minutes to most time related tests.  I just
tried this here and it worked ok:

  print "Yep, dark out\n" if new_second and time_greater_than "$Time_Sunset
+  0:30";

> Different topic; where do I look for "play" program?  I get sh:
> play: command not found.  I think I get that
> as root: also?
>
> Mike

On my RH 8 box, which shows it at /usr/bin/play .   You can point to a
different program, or a specific path, with the mh.ini sound_program parm.

Bruce

> I searched from 'data not parsed' on my dad's machine, and don't
> find it either. i went back to his logs, though, and sure enough,
> that's what it said when I
> ran 'Test callerid 7'. I figured it might be text that MH is
> concatenating together, buy i couldn't find the word 'parsed' in
> either callerid.pl or phone.pl.
>
> do i need to install some external perl modules that i don't have?
>
>
> scott reston

No, should not need any additional modules.   I'm stumped here.  I just did
a windows search for 'a word or phrase in files' for parsed in all the files
in the mh dir and did not find any code that would produce that message.
I guess I'd recommend you try the same thing.  Maybe it is in an older mh
distro or maybe some bad user code file you have.

Bruce

You mean this text?

	$html .= qq[<P> This form is used for logging into MisterHouse.<br> For
administration please see the documentation of <a
href="http://misterhouse.net/mh.html"> set_password </a></P>\n];

Should we change this or make it a config parm?   What were you chaging it
to?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----

It is in lib/http_server.pl (around line 560) .  This file is modified
occasionally, so it is worth adding a comment to yourself so that you can
easily find the modification again if you want to move up to a later version
of the file.

You may also want to put your modified copy into your personal code file.
If you don't, your modified copy will be over-written if you install a later
version of mh.

Clive





I would like to change the text that is displayed when cliking the 'Login'
button on the ia5 home page.  Despite lots of searching I cant find the
location.

Anyone know where it is?

> Ok, I am tearing my hair out trying to understand volume control
> w/mh under
> windows. Supposedly you can do something like:
>
>     Win32::Sound::Volume( 0xffff, 0x7fff);
>        or
>     Win32::Sound::Volume( '100%', '50%');

This rang a faint bell in my empty brain ... my volume was turned down ;)
I see this in common/mh_sound.pl:

    elsif ($Info{Volume_Control} eq 'Win32::Sound') {
        $volume_previous = Win32::Sound::Volume;
        $volume = int 255 * $volume / 100;   # (0->100 =>  0->255)
        $volume = $volume + ($volume << 16); # Hack to fix a bug in
Win32::Sound::Volume
        &Win32::Sound::Volume($volume);
    }

Looks like I had problems with this also, but I think the above works ok.

Bruce

MH wrote:

>"I'd be careful about race conditions, though.."
>
>Pardon?
>
>  
>
 From http://www.google.com/search?q=define:race+condition

Generally, where the ordering of events can affect the outcome of a 
situation. These bugs are caused by incomplete mutual exclusion, so a 
task or interrupt can come in and change something vital under the feet 
of another task. They are notoriously hard to debug as they are often 
marginal (often only occur in pathological=="very unlikely" situations).
www.kernelnewbies.org/glossary/ <http://www.kernelnewbies.org/glossary/>

Generally, where the ordering of events can affect the outcome of a 
situation. These bugs are caused by incomplete mutual exclusion, so a 
task or interrupt can come in and change something vital under the feet 
of another task. They are notoriously hard to debug as they are often 
marginal (often only occur in pathological=="very unlikely" situations).
www.kernelhacking.org/docs/kernelhacking-HOWTO/indexs17.html 
<http://www.kernelhacking.org/docs/kernelhacking-HOWTO/indexs17.html>

Situation in which multiple processes vie for the same resource and 
receive it in an unpredictable manner. Race conditions can lead to cases 
where applications do not run correctly from one invocation to the next.
www.nacs.uci.edu/computing/hpc/docs/hpmpi/doc/html/glossary.html 
<http://www.nacs.uci.edu/computing/hpc/docs/hpmpi/doc/html/glossary.html>

A situation in which the final result of operations being executed by 
two or more units of execution depends on the order in which those UEs 
execute. For example, if two units of execution A and B are to write 
different values VA and VB to the same variable, then the final value of 
the variable is determined by the order in which A and B execute.
www.cise.ufl.edu/research/ParallelPatterns/PatternLanguage/Background/Glossary.htm 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ingo Dean [mailto:id...@in...]
>Sent: 30 March 2004 21:26
>To: mis...@li...
>Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Using Audreys gdbm files ?
>
>
>I happened to come across this today - it might lead you in the right
>direction.  It looks like they're moving the files to an NFS share and
>having each Audrey use it through a symbolic link.
>
>I'd be careful about race conditions, though...
>
>http://www.madtechview.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2
>
>Robert Rozman wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have 3  Audreys and would like to use their gdbm data (all using one set
>>of files) also from MH. I know there is some support for that, but I'm
>>curious whether anyone did two way synhronization between those or even
>>maybe made web frontend through MH to those gdbm files - the main goal is
>>    
>>
>to
>  
>
>>have all data in one file...
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Robert.
>>
>>
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"I'd be careful about race conditions, though.."

Pardon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ingo Dean [mailto:id...@in...]
Sent: 30 March 2004 21:26
To: mis...@li...
Subject: Re: [misterhouse-users] Using Audreys gdbm files ?


I happened to come across this today - it might lead you in the right
direction.  It looks like they're moving the files to an NFS share and
having each Audrey use it through a symbolic link.

I'd be careful about race conditions, though...

http://www.madtechview.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2

Robert Rozman wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have 3  Audreys and would like to use their gdbm data (all using one set
>of files) also from MH. I know there is some support for that, but I'm
>curious whether anyone did two way synhronization between those or even
>maybe made web frontend through MH to those gdbm files - the main goal is
to
>have all data in one file...
>
>Regards,
>
>Robert.
>
>
>
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If I understand it correctly, it not a signal 'sucker' more of a noise
emitter.
Some switch mode power supplies generate a lot of noise/interference back
onto the ring main.
This interference can be so great as to mask the X10 signal (which is after
all interference itself). An X10 filter should prevent the noise that device
creates from leaking back onto the ring main. I use one on my UPS unit,
ironic isn't it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Womack [mailto:arw...@wo...]
Sent: 30 March 2004 01:03
To: Alan Womack
Subject: re: [misterhouse-users] appliance module does not work with
attached computer


 >>  I have two computers with identical hardware attached to two different
466
 >>  wall outlet modules.
 >>  They are both directly connected to the computer.  One of them will
switch
 >>  only when the computer is NOT connected.
 >>  The other one doesn't seem to care if the computer is connected or not,
it
 >>  will always switch on or off.
 >>  To eliminate a faulty module I attached a 3-prong plug-in module in the
 >>  outlet which doesn't work when the computer is attached and I get the
same
 >>  result - the module only works when the computer is not attached.

 >>  Any ideas?

If I understand correctly, you are having a signal sucker in the second PC
which prevents the module from working.  you can isolate it with one of the
X-10 XPPF filters, or other suggest the much more expesive ACT filters.  The
XPPF are 5A run about $20-$30 each, and really need to be run no more than
5A.
They can melt down with a higher load.

i have a PC in my house which prevents lights from working when plugged in.
I
bought a XPPF and it went away.  Changing PC power supplies can also fix on
occassion.



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I happened to come across this today - it might lead you in the right 
direction.  It looks like they're moving the files to an NFS share and 
having each Audrey use it through a symbolic link.

I'd be careful about race conditions, though...

http://www.madtechview.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2

Robert Rozman wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have 3  Audreys and would like to use their gdbm data (all using one set
>of files) also from MH. I know there is some support for that, but I'm
>curious whether anyone did two way synhronization between those or even
>maybe made web frontend through MH to those gdbm files - the main goal is to
>have all data in one file...
>
>Regards,
>
>Robert.
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Hi,

I have 3  Audreys and would like to use their gdbm data (all using one set
of files) also from MH. I know there is some support for that, but I'm
curious whether anyone did two way synhronization between those or even
maybe made web frontend through MH to those gdbm files - the main goal is to
have all data in one file...

Regards,

Robert.

Here's one that I'm interested in ... and it is open source to boot.
http://www.dashpc.com/

Max
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To: <mis...@li...>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:44 PM
Subject: [misterhouse-users] Mr car?


> Has anyone used mr house in a car yet? I  ask because I am in the process
of building a car pc. If anyone has a websight with info, please post it.
>
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There was a really cool article a couple years back in maximum linux (
jan/feb 2001 issue and mar/apr 2 parter. 1 part hardware 1part soft). I
was able to track down the author and his pages with an overview of the
project. http://www.anders.com/projects/route66/
I really wish that he had the whole article/howto there, but alas the
mag went away :( ... But this page should get the creative juices
flowing.

I was contemplating a MH derivitive/add-on that would wirelessly
exchange information with my master MH server to sense the presence of
the car(s) and adjust the lighting accordingly (auto on when coming home
at night), as well as having it sync data, music etc when in the garage
.... Just some quick thoughts (though I do some with my zaurus sl500d
anyways) Add some remote capacity (cell satelite, hotspots ...) and
viola remote anywhere ...

Just my $.02

-Pete

On Mon, 2004-03-29 at 20:44, Thomas Harding wrote:
> Has anyone used mr house in a car yet? I  ask because I am in the process of building a car pc. If anyone has a websight with info, please post it.
> 
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Has anyone used mr house in a car yet? I  ask because I am in the process of building a car pc. If anyone has a websight with info, please post it.

 >>  I have two computers with identical hardware attached to two different 466
 >>  wall outlet modules.
 >>  They are both directly connected to the computer.  One of them will switch
 >>  only when the computer is NOT connected.
 >>  The other one doesn't seem to care if the computer is connected or not, it
 >>  will always switch on or off.
 >>  To eliminate a faulty module I attached a 3-prong plug-in module in the
 >>  outlet which doesn't work when the computer is attached and I get the same
 >>  result - the module only works when the computer is not attached.

 >>  Any ideas?

If I understand correctly, you are having a signal sucker in the second PC 
which prevents the module from working.  you can isolate it with one of the 
X-10 XPPF filters, or other suggest the much more expesive ACT filters.  The 
XPPF are 5A run about $20-$30 each, and really need to be run no more than 5A.  
They can melt down with a higher load.

i have a PC in my house which prevents lights from working when plugged in.  I 
bought a XPPF and it went away.  Changing PC power supplies can also fix on 
occassion.



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Yes, back EMI from your computers power supply is preventing the module
from receiving codes.  Some power supplies are noisier than others, as I
have discovered.  An EMI filter might help.

Why are you doing this?  Killing power to a PC is generally not a good
idea.  Why not shut the system down through the OS?

tho...@sa... said:
> I have two computers with identical hardware attached to two different 466
> wall outlet modules.
> They are both directly connected to the computer.  One of them will switch
> only when the computer is NOT connected.
> The other one doesn't seem to care if the computer is connected or not, it
> will always switch on or off.
> To eliminate a faulty module I attached a 3-prong plug-in module in the
> outlet which doesn't work when the computer is attached and I get the same
> result - the module only works when the computer is not attached.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
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Thanks,
Russ