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Thanks Daniel and others for your suggestions.

The #define NDEBUG suggested by jo mateix works fine to prevent the
assertions to compile.

I already tried to run my program from the DOS prompt, but I did it by
closing Windows and start computer in DOS mode. When I do that I get "This
program cannot be run in the DOS mode".
When I do it the way Daniel suggests it works fine, and I can read the
message.

Wobien

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Glenfield" <sp...@ho...>
To: <wo...@pl...>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] using assert


> Try something like
>
> #if DEBUG
> assert(a<b);
> #endif
>
> and see if that does anything when compiling in Release mode.
>
> As for the irritating closing of the console window you'll need to run the
> program from a dos prompt.
>
> So do Start -> Accessories -> Command Prompt (it all depends on what OS
you
> have - in ME it is in Start itself).
> Type
> cd C:\Dev-CPP\MyTest\      <--- this is where the exe is
>
> then type
> MyTestProgram.exe
>
> That should work.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> >From: Wobien <wo...@pl...>
> >Reply-To: Wobien <wo...@pl...>
> >To: dev-cpp-users-list <dev...@li...>
> >Subject: [Dev-C++] using assert
> >Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:27:45 +0200
> >
> >Using assert is supposed to be a big help in finding bugs in your
program.
> >
> >#include <cassert>
> >assert(a<b);
> >
> >should stop your program if a>=b and print the file and line number of
the
> >assert statement that failed, if and only if you run in debug mode. If
you
> >are not in debug mode, the assert statements should not be compiled.
> >
> >Now I have 2 problems:
> >
> >1: my program stops if the assert fails, even if I did not compile in the
> >debug mode.
> >
> >2: when the program stops it does not wait and stop to give me the
> >opportunity to read the message about the file and line number. The
system
> >("PAUSE"); statement at the end of the main procedure does not help here,
> >because the program never gets there.
> >
> >A simple test "program" to try this is:
> >
> >#include <stdlib.h>
> >#include <cassert>
> >int main()
> >{
> >     int a=5;
> >     int b=1;
> >     assert(a<b);
> >     system ("PAUSE");
> >     return 0;
> >}
> >
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Hi Leonel,

> This is my first message to this list and i'm sorry by my bad english 
> speaking.
> The question is ¿where is the 100% ISO/C++ compilant compiler?? I'm learning 
> C++ step by step in the free time between my visual fox developer work and 
> the university and i was read a hundred articles about the ISO compilant of 
> that compiler but no one about a compiler like that...

I'm not sure if they do not like to be compliant (except for MS
implementations). But, AFAIK, the problem is that beeing 
completely compliant is not that easily feasible. Read the
following article written by Herb Sutter: "C++ Conformance
Roundup". (I couldn't find the link according to the server
problems, but take heart and search for it!)

> There is some one?

Unfortunately, no!

> There is a project of something like that?

Hmmm... Every implementation (by default) wants to be compliant
to be more widely usable. So there are lots of them!

> Why the GNU compiler is not one?

They're one of the ones trying to achieve that.

Regards,
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Hi list!

This question goes to the more experienced devs on this list:

Has anyone of you made performance tests comparing the code optimization 
results of the MingW compiler with what you can gain with MS VC++ 6.0?

I'm especially interested in multimedia performance tests - processing 
large buffers of 32bit floats, computing complex floating-point 
algorithms, moving large blocks of memory, etc.

MS VC++ 6.0 does a fairly good job optimizing the output code, only 
beeing beaten by the Intel-C++ compiler in some cases.

Anyone having any figures where Gcc/MingW optimization stands?

Best,
Stefan

Dear Joe,

> I'm trying to build a simple text editor that edits text and saves them.
> This is working fine.  My question is that I want to implement a custom
> syntax highlighting to it.  Can anyone make any recommendations to me on how
> to implement something like this?

I myself don't know how, but I've heared that XML has got stuff,
using which having these done gets easier than eating a dock
soup!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Glenfield [mailto:sp...@ho...]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:15 AM
To: F.W...@wi...; dev...@li...; Opacki,
Joseph
Subject: Re: Antw: RE: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler


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>From: "Frank Wagner" <F.W...@wi...>
>To: <dev...@li...>,<Jos...@ng...>
>Subject: Antw: RE: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler
>Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:56 +0200
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm using Dev-Cpp with Cygwin and it works for me in the most cases.
>I also looking for someone I can share experiences with.
>
>Greetings
>
>Frank
>
> >>> "Opacki, Joseph" <Jos...@ng...> 10/09 5:31  >>>
>Although I thought I had read somewhere that you could plug Dev-C++ to =
work
>with Cygwin.  That would be very interesting for me to see.  If anyone =
out
>there has done something like this, please share or point me to a =
page.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David McKen [mailto:ci...@ya...]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:13 PM
>To: dev...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler
>
>
>First let me point out that Dev-C++ is NOT a compiler, it
>uses Mingw
>(avalible at www.mingw.org) as the compiler, on top of
>which Dev-C++ adds an
>Integrated Desktop Enviroment (IDE).
>
>As for mingw, I am not too sure about ISO but it is ANSI
>compliant (I am
>guessing they are similar at the very least). The thing to
>watch out for is
>the extensions that are avalible. Mingw is a copy-cat
>version of the gcc/g++
>compilers (avalible on almost all Unixes) that runs on and
>generates win32
>executables. As for the extensions they can be turned off
>by using the
>"-ansi" switch.
>
>If you need any more information either someone else on the
>list may be able
>to help you or check out the Mingw web site.
>
>Signed
>David McKen
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Leonel Quinteros" <qui...@ho...>
>To: <dev...@li...>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:48 PM
>Subject: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler
>
>
> > Hi List!
> > This is my first message to this list and i'm sorry by my
>bad english
> > speaking.
> > The question is =BFwhere is the 100% ISO/C++ compilant
>compiler?? I'm
>learning
> > C++ step by step in the free time between my visual fox
>developer work and
> > the university and i was read a hundred articles about
>the ISO compilant
>of
> > that compiler but no one about a compiler like that...
> > There is some one?
> > There is a project of something like that?
> > Why the GNU compiler is not one?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Leonel
> >
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>From: "Frank Wagner" <F.W...@wi...>
>To: <dev...@li...>,<Jos...@ng...>
>Subject: Antw: RE: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler
>Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:31:56 +0200
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm using Dev-Cpp with Cygwin and it works for me in the most cases.
>I also looking for someone I can share experiences with.
>
>Greetings
>
>Frank
>
> >>> "Opacki, Joseph" <Jos...@ng...> 10/09 5:31  >>>
>Although I thought I had read somewhere that you could plug Dev-C++ to work
>with Cygwin.  That would be very interesting for me to see.  If anyone out
>there has done something like this, please share or point me to a page.
>
>Thanks.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David McKen [mailto:ci...@ya...]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:13 PM
>To: dev...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler
>
>
>First let me point out that Dev-C++ is NOT a compiler, it
>uses Mingw
>(avalible at www.mingw.org) as the compiler, on top of
>which Dev-C++ adds an
>Integrated Desktop Enviroment (IDE).
>
>As for mingw, I am not too sure about ISO but it is ANSI
>compliant (I am
>guessing they are similar at the very least). The thing to
>watch out for is
>the extensions that are avalible. Mingw is a copy-cat
>version of the gcc/g++
>compilers (avalible on almost all Unixes) that runs on and
>generates win32
>executables. As for the extensions they can be turned off
>by using the
>"-ansi" switch.
>
>If you need any more information either someone else on the
>list may be able
>to help you or check out the Mingw web site.
>
>Signed
>David McKen
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Leonel Quinteros" <qui...@ho...>
>To: <dev...@li...>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:48 PM
>Subject: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler
>
>
> > Hi List!
> > This is my first message to this list and i'm sorry by my
>bad english
> > speaking.
> > The question is ¿where is the 100% ISO/C++ compilant
>compiler?? I'm
>learning
> > C++ step by step in the free time between my visual fox
>developer work and
> > the university and i was read a hundred articles about
>the ISO compilant
>of
> > that compiler but no one about a compiler like that...
> > There is some one?
> > There is a project of something like that?
> > Why the GNU compiler is not one?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Leonel
> >
> >
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Frank,

My experience so far has been with VSC++, and now Dev-C++, in which I =
prefer
Dev-C++ over the M$ product.  Unfortunately my experience has been =
limited
to Windows and I am only starting to branch out into the Unix/Linux =
markets.
Cygwin is a good choice for me since I won't have to forfeit my windows
environment, however, command line compiling and writing my own make =
file is
foreign to me.  When I read the you could tie Dev-C++ into Cygwin and =
use
g++, I wanted to get as much information as I could.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Wagner [mailto:F.W...@wi...]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 4:32 AM
To: dev...@li...; Opacki, Joseph
Subject: Antw: RE: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler


Hi,

I'm using Dev-Cpp with Cygwin and it works for me in the most cases.
I also looking for someone I can share experiences with.

Greetings

Frank

>>> "Opacki, Joseph" <Jos...@ng...> 10/09 5:31  >>>
Although I thought I had read somewhere that you could plug Dev-C++ to =
work
with Cygwin.  That would be very interesting for me to see.  If anyone =
out
there has done something like this, please share or point me to a page.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: David McKen [mailto:ci...@ya...]=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:13 PM
To: dev...@li...=20
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler


First let me point out that Dev-C++ is NOT a compiler, it
uses Mingw
(avalible at www.mingw.org) as the compiler, on top of
which Dev-C++ adds an
Integrated Desktop Enviroment (IDE).

As for mingw, I am not too sure about ISO but it is ANSI
compliant (I am
guessing they are similar at the very least). The thing to
watch out for is
the extensions that are avalible. Mingw is a copy-cat
version of the gcc/g++
compilers (avalible on almost all Unixes) that runs on and
generates win32
executables. As for the extensions they can be turned off
by using the
"-ansi" switch.

If you need any more information either someone else on the
list may be able
to help you or check out the Mingw web site.

Signed
David McKen


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Leonel Quinteros" <qui...@ho...>
To: <dev...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler


> Hi List!
> This is my first message to this list and i'm sorry by my
bad english
> speaking.
> The question is =BFwhere is the 100% ISO/C++ compilant
compiler?? I'm
learning
> C++ step by step in the free time between my visual fox
developer work and
> the university and i was read a hundred articles about
the ISO compilant
of
> that compiler but no one about a compiler like that...
> There is some one?
> There is a project of something like that?
> Why the GNU compiler is not one?
>
> Greetings
>
> Leonel
>
>
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Hi,

I'm using Dev-Cpp with Cygwin and it works for me in the most cases.
I also looking for someone I can share experiences with.

Greetings

Frank

>>> "Opacki, Joseph" <Jos...@ng...> 10/09 5:31  >>>
Although I thought I had read somewhere that you could plug Dev-C++ to =
work
with Cygwin.  That would be very interesting for me to see.  If anyone out
there has done something like this, please share or point me to a page.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: David McKen [mailto:ci...@ya...]=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 6:13 PM
To: dev...@li...=20
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler


First let me point out that Dev-C++ is NOT a compiler, it
uses Mingw
(avalible at www.mingw.org) as the compiler, on top of
which Dev-C++ adds an
Integrated Desktop Enviroment (IDE).

As for mingw, I am not too sure about ISO but it is ANSI
compliant (I am
guessing they are similar at the very least). The thing to
watch out for is
the extensions that are avalible. Mingw is a copy-cat
version of the gcc/g++
compilers (avalible on almost all Unixes) that runs on and
generates win32
executables. As for the extensions they can be turned off
by using the
"-ansi" switch.

If you need any more information either someone else on the
list may be able
to help you or check out the Mingw web site.

Signed
David McKen


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Leonel Quinteros" <qui...@ho...>
To: <dev...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: [Dev-C++] ISO C++ Compiler


> Hi List!
> This is my first message to this list and i'm sorry by my
bad english
> speaking.
> The question is =BFwhere is the 100% ISO/C++ compilant
compiler?? I'm
learning
> C++ step by step in the free time between my visual fox
developer work and
> the university and i was read a hundred articles about
the ISO compilant
of
> that compiler but no one about a compiler like that...
> There is some one?
> There is a project of something like that?
> Why the GNU compiler is not one?
>
> Greetings
>
> Leonel
>
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What kind of advice is that? :|
Do you know anything about C or C++ at all?
C does not know about the concept of namespaces, so "using namespace std"
would only generate an error.
As for the C++ "#include <conio>", this will not work either. conio is not,
never was, and never will be a standard header, and trying to include it in
the C++ header fashion won't make any difference whatsoever, you'll still
get errors.
And of course, conio.h isn't a standard header for C either, so the chances
of "#include <conio.h>" working are small too. MingW provides a contributed
(and broken) conio implementation, because so many Borland and Microsoft
users think this header is standard, and come crying to the lists when it
doesn't work on a standards-compliant compiler.
My advice is to avoid conio at all costs. For Win32 you're much better off
using the Win32 API to accomplish the same tasks (positioning the cursor,
etc), and for true DOS console manipulation you should be using a different
compiler (try DJGPP for example), because MingW is for Win32, and creates
only Win32 executables. You could also look for a "curses" implementation,
which tends to be a bit better at cross-platform compiling, and is a true
third-party library, not something people expect to be standard but isn't.

Regards,


Paul

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dev...@li...] On Behalf Of Alvin
Thompson
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:41 AM
To: al...@vi...; co...@gm...; dev...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] conio

for c++:
#include <conio>

for c:
#include <conio.h>

for both:
using namespace std

hth,
alvin



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I don't know what you mean by "compiling in debug mode", but if you want the 
"assertions" not to be compiled I think you should

#define NDEBUG

either in the source code or trough the command line.
I hope it helps.

>From: Wobien <wo...@pl...>
>Reply-To: Wobien <wo...@pl...>
>To: dev-cpp-users-list <dev...@li...>
>Subject: [Dev-C++] using assert
>Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 16:27:45 +0200
>
>Using assert is supposed to be a big help in finding bugs in your program.
>
>#include <cassert>
>assert(a<b);
>
>should stop your program if a>=b and print the file and line number of the
>assert statement that failed, if and only if you run in debug mode. If you
>are not in debug mode, the assert statements should not be compiled.
>
>Now I have 2 problems:
>
>1: my program stops if the assert fails, even if I did not compile in the
>debug mode.
>
>2: when the program stops it does not wait and stop to give me the
>opportunity to read the message about the file and line number. The system
>("PAUSE"); statement at the end of the main procedure does not help here,
>because the program never gets there.
>
>A simple test "program" to try this is:
>
>#include <stdlib.h>
>#include <cassert>
>int main()
>{
>     int a=5;
>     int b=1;
>     assert(a<b);
>     system ("PAUSE");
>     return 0;
>}
>

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