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Marcel Koopman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> How do i get libxml2.6 to work in Dev-c++?
> The only devpackage i can find is 2.4.22, which does not include stuff i 
> need (xmlreader.h).

maybe you could try official 2.6.3 binaries:
http://www.zlatkovic.com/libxml.en.html

(but I didn't tried them)

Hello,

How do i get libxml2.6 to work in Dev-c++?
The only devpackage i can find is 2.4.22, which does not include stuff i 
need (xmlreader.h).

I do have the libxml 2.6.22 source for windows downloaded, do i need to 
compile this? And how? Or should i make a dev-package?

Thanks,
Marcel

hu...@cl... wrote:
> Hei all,
> whats the diference between this statements :
> 
> int v[1000];
> memset(v,'\0',sizeof(v));
> 
> and .....
> 
> int v[1000];
> memset(v,0x00,sizeof(v));

Actually, nothing. 0x00 and '\0' means the same thing. 0x00 is simply 0 
in decimal form. '\0' means the ascii-code of the \0 character (note: 
NOT the ascii-code of '0') as far as I know, and it is also 0. So the 
behaviour of the two memset's are identical.

It depends on the context which one is more appropriate. If you wish to 
initialize a character buffer with the same characters, for example, 
with the letter 'a', then the first form is more straight-forward:

char v[1000];
memset(v,'a',sizeof(v));
/* v[1000-1] = '\0' */

But in your case, the second is better, as you initialize an integer 
array, and I suspect, that you wish to zero it out.

int v[1000];
memset(v,0,sizeof(v));

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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 age...@co... wrote:

> I think .rc files vary between compilers.

As far as I know, they're a Windows standard: to me some problem has only
occurred for pathnames, because Dev-C++ required '/' instead of '\\' - or
something similar, I can't recall.

For the problem itself, line indicated by windres is only to find involved
object, so error can be anywhere (again, I don't really remember - too
much time I don't write my own resource files): I think he hasn't
defined the value of IDI_MYICON, tipically not including the resource.h
file.

Note that Dev-C++ handles resources with a private part, so an #include
should always be present in the rc.

Ferdinando

It's the reverse. There are a number of mathematical operations available
on complex that doesn't make sense with int.

pow, cos, sin, sqrt, tan, polar, ...

sin and cos returns a result in the -1..1 range. An integer can only
store, -1,0,1 which obvisoulsy means you can only process the angles 0,
90, 180, 270.

A complex number is by mathematical definition a superset of a floating
point number, containing a real and an imaginary part (each a floating
point number) so obviously you can't use two integers.

/Per W

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Mohamed Iqbal wrote:

>
> > Some of the matematical operations are not meaningful if you can't
> > represent a fractional value.
> >
> > /Per W
>
>
> can you give examples for that. which basic operations make sense with
> int but not with complex<int>?
>
> Mohammed
>
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Mohamed Iqbal wrote:
> >
> > >  26.2/2: The effect of instantiating the template complex for any type
> other
> > > than float, double or long double is unspecified.
> > >
> > > Does anybody know the reason for that?
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> Some of the matematical operations are not meaningful if you can't
> represent a fractional value.
>
> /Per W


can you give examples for that. which basic operations make sense with
int but not with complex<int>?

Mohammed

>
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Mohamed Iqbal wrote:
>
> >  26.2/2: The effect of instantiating the template complex for any type
other
> > than float, double or long double is unspecified.
> >
> > Does anybody know the reason for that?
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You are absolutely right! as the message below says:
========================
Option -I is deprecated for setting the input format, please use -J 
instead.
========================
But I cannot correctly set this variable,  I tired:
"Tools --> Compiler Options ==> Add these commands to the linker command 
line", but I got this message:
========================
g++.exe ../cygwin/Fox/fox-1.0.46/calculator/help.o 
../cygwin/Fox/fox-1.0.46/calculator/HelpWindow.o 
../cygwin/Fox/fox-1.0.46/calculator/icons.o 
../cygwin/Fox/fox-1.0.46/calculator/main.o 
../cygwin/Fox/fox-1.0.46/calculator/Preferences.o 
../cygwin/Fox/fox-1.0.46/calculator/Calculator.o Project1_private.res -o 
"Project1.exe" -L"C:/cygwin/lib" -L"C:/cygwin/usr/lib" -J -mwindows 
../cygwin/lib/libFOX.a ../cygwin/lib/libz.a 
../cygwin/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/libgcc.a 
../cygwin/lib/libcygwin.a g++: unrecognized option `-J'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
warning: cannot find entry symbol _WinMainCRTStartup; defaulting to 
00401000
../cygwin/lib/libFOX.a(FXApp.o)(.text+0x73fe):FXApp.cpp: undefined 
reference to `__TrackMouseEvent@4'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [Project1.exe] Error 1
Execution terminated
========================
If I change this to:
Project Options --> Compile  ==> -J
Project Options --> C++ Compiler -J"C:\cygwin\usr\fox"
I get:
g++: unrecognized option `-J'

==========================

Can you please be a bit more specific as to where and how this '-J' is used


age...@co... wrote:

It seems to say use -J in the linker options. You are using older 
headers it says. Use the <header> and <cheader> options instead also.

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Great book. I got it a while ago, and it is very nice. Two editors of gamedev.net wrote it. it first goes over basic win32 stuff. Finish the www.winprog.org/ tutorials and complete them after the Win32 part of the book for a better understanding. Then it goes on to OpenGL. After you can do all these OpenGL demos, you learn the parts of DirectX you will be using, and finnaly put them all together into a simple 3-D game. Note that it doesn't really cover 2D games, and you might have to reread some content to understand it. I highly reccomend it to anyone who wants to make games with OpenGL.

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> hey scott!
>     thanx for the info! .... by the way is OpenGL Game Programming a good
> book? i have been planning on buying that one.
> 
> dinesh.
> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <age...@co...>
> To: "DevCpp User Group" <dev...@li...>; "Dinesh
> Pillay" <dp...@gm...>
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dev-C++] [OT] OpenGL SuperBible 1st edition
> 
> 
> > I know of a site with some examples similar to that... Go to
> http://nehe.gamedev.net/. There are several tutorials and each one has
> Dev-C++ optimized code as ann option! Some stuff might help you. I know how
> the CD thing feels. My CD to OpenGL Game Programming broke, and I have typed
> in at least 2,000 lines so far on a few examples, but I retyped some for
> different computers and reformats.
> >
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> > > Hello ppl,
> > >     i have been reading the Opengl SuperBible and using devc++ to do
> it;s
> > > examples ... i got the book from my friend actually and he's lost the cd
> > > .... so i don't have the source code and it can get cumbersome to write
> all
> > > of it ... hence if someone has the source could u please email it to me
> at
> > > dp...@re... ... it would be of great help .. thank u
> > >
> > > adios,
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Yes, there are things that you have to change:
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> Binaries --> c:\cygwin\bin
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> Libraries --> c:\cygwin\lib
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> Includes --> 
c:\cygwin\include
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.2
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.3.1
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.3.1\backward
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.3.1\i386-pc-cygwin

And remove all the references to Dev-Cpp MingWin, that's it!

age...@co... wrote:

>You can use Cygwin with Dev-C++. You simply have to download it and switch compilers. You simply need to change a few options. I have never done it, so cannot help you. Check the documentation for mingw and cygwin for more info, and also the Dev-C++ info.
>
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>  
>
>>Hello
>>
>>This is my first post :)
>>I hope someone could help...
>>
>>I want to use DevCpp for a .c source with an external makefile and external 
>>headers and libraries. Furthermore, I don't want to build a .exe but a .mi file. 
>>That binary is supposed to run on a digital signal processor and not on a pc.
>>
>>Up to now, I successfully used Cygwin to build this special .mi. So I have that 
>>makefile to do this. The makefile calls "tmcc.exe" which is a special compiler 
>>for trimedia devices. 
>>
>>I installed DevCpp 4.9.8.0, created a new empty project and added 
>>(project->project options->makefile ) my external makefile to the project. I 
>>tried to compile the source and got a error :
>>
>>/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>Compiler: Default compiler
>>Building Makefile: "C:\Programme\dve-2\examples\vivo4work\Makefile.win"
>>Führt  make... aus
>>make.exe -f "C:\Programme\dve-2\examples\vivo4work\Makefile.win" all
>>gcc.exe -c vivo_init.c -o vivo_init.o -host nohost -el  -O5 -DNO_DP 
>>-DL2_LOAD_ADDR=0x00000840
>>
>>gcc.exe: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
>>
>>make.exe: *** [vivo_init.o] Error 1
>>
>>Ausführung beendet
>>//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>
>>Any ideas ?
>>best wishes,
>>Timo
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Also, v[2] is uninitialized. That could lead to a problem. And be careful with C standard code. It is almost obsolete.

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> Quoting hu...@cl...:
> 	
> > 		Hi all, 
> > 		in others compilers this is the result : 
> > 		
> > 		10 
> > 		200 
> > 		
> > 		of this program : 
> > 		#include 
> > 		main <http://pcp.clix.pt/images/canais/webmail2/smile/kiss.gif> 
> > 		{ 
> > 		int v[3],i; 
> > 		v[0]=10; 
> > 		v[1]=200; 
> > 		i=0; 
> > 		while(v[i]!='\0') 
> > 		{ 
> > 		printf("%d\n",v[i]); 
> > 		i++; 
> > 		} 
> > 		} 
> > 		
> > 		in dev-c++compiler i have the this result : 
> > 		10 
> > 		200 
> > 		2293664 
> > 		4198592 
> > 		4210688 
> > 		4210692 
> > 		2293664 
> > 		4198757 
> > 		1 
> > 		4138088 
> > 		4139640 
> > 		4198553 
> > 		
> > 		
> > 		Why ????? 
> > 		
> > 		Thanks. 
> > 
> > 		--
> > 		Hugo Dias
> > 		  
> 
> 
> Well, to me it seems that the explanation is that GCC stores the variables
> declared in main on the stack! If you put the declaration of the v vector
> outside main, the program will "work" just as with the other compilers. This
> probably is because windoze will clear the memory (setting to zero) allocated to
> the program before loading and executing it. The memory occupied by the stack is
> cleared just like all the rest, only it is messed up by some initialization code
> executed before main starts executing.
> 
> If you put the same code in some other function than main it won't work (except
> by chance) regardless of which compiler you use.
> 
> 
> A way to verify this behavior is to put "int v[3000000]" outside of main and
> inside. And yes, the program crashes if you put the declaration inside main,
> because windows don't allow you to allocate that much (at once) on the stack. My
> guess is that the other compilers treat declarations inside main as if they were
> put outside of main (go ahead and try). 
> 
> Note that the clearing of memory before loading and executing the program is not
>  part of the C/C++ standards but is dependent on the OS. Visal C++ (when
> debugging) even initialize memory to 0xaa (or was it 0x55?) to help detecting
> this kind of bugs. 
> 
> /Paul I
> 
> 
> 
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Where exactly do I put that '-J'?

age...@co... wrote:

>It seems to say use -J in the linker options. You are using older headers it says. Use the <header> and <cheader> options instead also.
>
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> Hello ppl,
>     i have been reading the Opengl SuperBible and using devc++ to do it;s
> examples ... i got the book from my friend actually and he's lost the cd
> .... so i don't have the source code and it can get cumbersome to write all
> of it ... hence if someone has the source could u please email it to me at
> dp...@re... ... it would be of great help .. thank u
> 
> adios,
> dinesh.
> 
>  - Perfection or Nothing.
> 
> 
> 
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You can use Cygwin with Dev-C++. You simply have to download it and switch compilers. You simply need to change a few options. I have never done it, so cannot help you. Check the documentation for mingw and cygwin for more info, and also the Dev-C++ info.

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> Hello
> 
> This is my first post :)
> I hope someone could help...
> 
> I want to use DevCpp for a .c source with an external makefile and external 
> headers and libraries. Furthermore, I don't want to build a .exe but a .mi file. 
> That binary is supposed to run on a digital signal processor and not on a pc.
> 
> Up to now, I successfully used Cygwin to build this special .mi. So I have that 
> makefile to do this. The makefile calls "tmcc.exe" which is a special compiler 
> for trimedia devices. 
> 
> I installed DevCpp 4.9.8.0, created a new empty project and added 
> (project->project options->makefile ) my external makefile to the project. I 
> tried to compile the source and got a error :
> 
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> Compiler: Default compiler
> Building Makefile: "C:\Programme\dve-2\examples\vivo4work\Makefile.win"
> Führt  make... aus
> make.exe -f "C:\Programme\dve-2\examples\vivo4work\Makefile.win" all
> gcc.exe -c vivo_init.c -o vivo_init.o -host nohost -el  -O5 -DNO_DP 
> -DL2_LOAD_ADDR=0x00000840
> 
> gcc.exe: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
> 
> make.exe: *** [vivo_init.o] Error 1
> 
> Ausführung beendet
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> 
> Any ideas ?
> best wishes,
> Timo
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Thanks. www.gametutorials.com has some stuff on conio.h. conio.h is not a standard header, you might get some strange errors. There is no standrad conio either, it varies with compilers. I have heard the most complete header is Borland's header. You can download their command line C++ compiler for free from their website at www.borland.com. I have never used it before, but have heards you need to include conio.cpp sometimes. Some people on this mailgroup have used it. I don't use consoles for anything less than text, otherwise I go to a window and OpenGL. If OpenGL sounds cool to you, look at http://nehe.gamedev.net/. It is the best openGL resource I know of besides www.opengl.org/. I feel better, as I have already played jedi Knight 2 for four hours straight!

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In regard to proper header order, there is none. I normally go like this:
1. Custom headers I have made.
2. Headers to libraries besides the standard C/C++ libraries.
3. Standard C++ Headers
4. C Headers

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> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Daniel Watson wrote:
> 
> > I have included string.h and also checked Compiler Options->Linker->Do
> > not use standard system startup files or binaries as suggested on
> > another linker error posting.
> 
> Uh? What post? If you check this, linker won't find anything of the
> standard library, including strcpy.
> 
> > Any suggestions on what could be causing this? Is there a specific order
> > that the header files should be included?  This is the order I have them
> > in.  Is the string.h file included in one of the other header files.
> 
> A _linker error_ depends from linker, headers are relative to compiler, so
> you'll better check the linker line to know what's going on (it writes
> the affected module or 'undefined reference', which means you haven't
> included in linking any library with that name, and this seems to be your
> situation).
> 
> Bye.
> 
> Ferdinando
> 
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I would look for a absic hardware API. You might be able to do this with the aid of Win32, I would check win32. Other than that, Dev-C++ comes with some libraries. You might be able to use a CD library to do this. I am not very sure about this, as i have never done any hardware access.

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I think .rc files vary between compilers. Do you have any industry standard compilers with you such as Borland C++ Builder, VC++ 6.0 or .NET, or at least another compiler to try the code on? I am not sure about resource files under Dev-C++. Winprog.org had some stuff on resource files, I would say try checking it out and searching the web or any books you have.

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> I am using Dev-Cpp for development of my application but I have run into a
> problem with the resource file.  Specifically I am trying to load an icon
> from the resource file not from a *.ico file.  I used the shareware version
> of Resource Builder to see how they make this work and then borrowed" their
> code to see if I could get it to work in Dev-Cpp.  The code attached is the
> copy from the resource builder *.rc file which compiles in that program but
> when I paste it into dev-dpp it does not compile and says that there is a
> parse error cause by the first line.  Does anyone have any ideas that would
> help me?
> 
> -Geoff Baker
> 
> IDI_MYICON ICON 
> MOVEABLE PURE LOADONCALL DISCARDABLE
> LANGUAGE LANG_NEUTRAL, 0
> BEGIN
> '00 00 01 00 02 00 20 20 00 01 01 00 08 00 A8 08 '
> '00 00 26 00 00 00 10 10 00 01 01 00 08 00 68 05 '
> '00 00 CE 08 00 00 28 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 40 00 '
> '00 00 01 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 '
> '00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF '

> 'FF 00 CB FE FF 00 99 FE FF 00 65 FE FF 00 33 FE '
> 'FF 00 00 FD FD 00 FE CB FF 00 CB CB FF 00 99 CB '
> 'FF 00 65 CB FF 00 33 CC FF 00 00 CB FD 00 FE 99 '
> 'FF 00 CB 99 FF 00 99 99 FF 00 65 98 FF 00 33 98 '
> 'FF 00 00 98 FD 00 FE 65 FF 00 CB 65 FF 00 98 65 '
> 'FF 00 65 65 FF 00 33 65 FF 00 00 65 FD 00 FE 33 '
> 'FF 00 CB 33 FF 00 98 33 FF 00 65 33 FF 00 33 33 '
> 'FF 00 00 32 FD 00 FD 00 FD 00 CB 00 FD 00 98 00 '
> 'FD 00 65 00 FD 00 32 00 FD 00 00 00 FD 00 FF FF '
> 'CB 00 CB FF CB 00 99 FF CC 00 65 FF CB 00 33 FF '
> 'CC 00 00 FD CB 00 FF CB CB 00 CC CC CC 00 98 CB '
> 'CB 00 66 CB CC 00 32 CB CB 00 00 CB CC 00 FF 99 '
> 'CB 00 CB 98 CB 00 98 98 CB 00 66 98 CC 00 32 98 '
> 'CB 00 00 99 CC 00 FF 65 CB 00 CB 66 CC 00 98 66 '
> 'CC 00 66 66 CC 00 32 65 CB 00 00 65 CC 00 FF 33 '
> 'CB 00 CB 32 CB 00 98 32 CB 00 65 32 CB 00 32 32 '
> 'CB 00 00 32 CC 00 FD 00 CB 00 CB 00 CC 00 98 00 '
> 'CC 00 65 00 CC 00 32 00 CC 00 00 00 CC 00 FF FF '
> '99 00 CB FF 99 00 99 FF 99 00 65 FF 98 00 33 FF '

> '99 00 00 FD 98 00 FF CC 99 00 CB CB 98 00 98 CB '
> '98 00 66 CC 99 00 32 CB 98 00 00 CC 99 00 FF 99 '
> '99 00 CB 98 98 00 99 99 99 00 65 98 98 00 33 98 '
> '99 00 00 97 98 00 FF 65 98 00 CC 66 98 00 98 65 '
> '98 00 65 65 98 00 33 65 99 00 00 65 98 00 FF 33 '
> '98 00 CB 32 98 00 98 33 99 00 65 33 99 00 33 33 '
> '99 00 00 32 98 00 FD 00 98 00 CC 00 98 00 97 00 '
> '98 00 65 00 98 00 32 00 98 00 00 00 98 00 FF FF '
> '65 00 CB FF 65 00 98 FF 65 00 65 FF 65 00 33 FF '
> '66 00 00 FD 65 00 FF CB 65 00 CC CC 66 00 98 CC '
> '66 00 66 CC 66 00 32 CB 65 00 00 CC 66 00 FF 98 '
> '65 00 CC 99 66 00 98 98 65 00 65 98 65 00 33 99 '
> '66 00 00 98 65 00 FF 65 65 00 CC 66 66 00 98 65 '
> '65 00 66 66 66 00 32 65 65 00 00 65 66 00 FF 33 '
> '65 00 CB 32 65 00 99 33 65 00 65 32 65 00 32 32 '
> '65 00 00 32 66 00 FD 00 65 00 CC 00 65 00 98 00 '
> '65 00 65 00 66 00 32 00 66 00 00 00 66 00 FF FF '
> '33 00 CC FF 33 00 98 FF 33 00 66 FF 33 00 33 FF '
> '33 00 00 FD 32 00 FF CC 33 00 CB CB 32 00 98 CB '

> '32 00 65 CB 32 00 32 CB 32 00 00 CC 33 00 FF 99 '
> '33 00 CB 98 32 00 99 99 33 00 65 99 33 00 33 99 '
> '33 00 00 98 32 00 FF 66 33 00 CB 65 32 00 99 66 '
> '33 00 65 65 32 00 32 65 32 00 00 66 33 00 FF 33 '
> '33 00 CB 32 32 00 99 33 33 00 65 32 32 00 33 33 '
> '33 00 00 31 32 00 FD 00 32 00 CC 00 32 00 98 00 '
> '32 00 66 00 32 00 31 00 32 00 00 00 32 00 FD FD '
> '00 00 CB FD 00 00 98 FD 00 00 65 FD 00 00 32 FD '
> '00 00 00 FD 00 00 FD CB 00 00 CC CC 00 00 99 CC '
> '00 00 65 CC 00 00 33 CC 00 00 00 CC 00 00 FD 98 '
> '00 00 CC 99 00 00 98 98 00 00 65 98 00 00 32 98 '
> '00 00 00 98 00 00 FD 65 00 00 CC 66 00 00 98 65 '
> '00 00 66 66 00 00 32 66 00 00 00 66 00 00 FD 32 '
> '00 00 CC 33 00 00 98 32 00 00 66 33 00 00 32 32 '
> '00 00 00 32 00 00 FD 00 00 00 CC 00 00 00 98 00 '
> '00 00 66 00 00 00 32 00 00 00 00 00 EE 00 00 00 '
> 'DC 00 00 00 BA 00 00 00 AA 00 00 00 88 00 00 00 '
> '76 00 00 00 54 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 22 00 00 00 '
> '10 00 00 EE 00 00 00 DC 00 00 00 BA 00 00 00 AA '

> '00 00 00 88 00 00 00 76 00 00 00 54 00 00 00 44 '
> '00 00 00 22 00 00 00 10 00 00 EE 00 00 00 DC 00 '
> '00 00 BA 00 00 00 AA 00 00 00 88 00 00 00 76 00 '
> '00 00 54 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 22 00 00 00 10 00 '
> '00 00 EE EE EE 00 DD DD DD 00 BB BB BB 00 AA AA '
> 'AA 00 88 88 88 00 77 77 77 00 55 55 55 00 44 44 '
> '44 00 22 22 22 00 11 11 11 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA '
> 'FA FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA '
> 'FA FA FA FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FA FA FA '
> 'FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '

> 'FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FA FA FF FF FF '
> 'FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FA '
> 'FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF F9 FA D8 FA FB FB FF '
> 'FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FF FF FF FA FA '
> 'FA FA FA FA FA FF FF F9 F9 F9 D8 D8 FA FB FC FC '
> 'FC FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FA FA '
> 'FA FA FA FF FF F9 F9 F7 FA D8 D8 D8 FA FB FB FC '
> 'FC FC FB FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF FA '
> 'FA FF FF F9 F9 FA F7 F7 FA F9 F9 F9 FA FB FC FC '
> 'FC FB FC FC FB FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA FA FF FF '
> 'FF F9 F9 F7 D8 F9 F9 FB FA F9 F9 9F F9 FB FB FC '
> 'FC FC FB FB FC FC FB FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FF F9 '
> 'F9 F7 F7 F9 F9 FB FB F7 FA F9 D8 F8 F8 F9 F9 FB '
> 'FB FC FC FC FB FB FC FC FB FF FF FF FA FF FF F7 '
> 'F7 F9 F9 FB FB F8 F7 F7 FA F8 F8 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 '
> 'F9 FB FB FB FC FC FB FB FC FC FC FF FF FF FF F7 '
> 'F9 D8 FB F8 F8 F7 F7 F7 FA FA F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 '
> 'F9 F9 F9 FB FB FB FC FC FB FC FC FC FB FF FF F7 '
> 'FB F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FA FA F9 F9 F9 F9 '

> 'F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 FB FB FB FC FC FC FB FB FF FF F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FA FA F9 F9 '
> 'F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 FB FB FC FC FC FB FF FF F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FA FA '
> 'F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 FB FB FC FB FF FF FF '
> 'FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'FA FA F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 FB FB FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 F7 FA FA F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 F7 FA FA F9 F9 F9 F9 F9 FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FA FA F9 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 F7 F7 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '

> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 '
> 'F7 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF F9 FF FF FF E0 3F FF FF 80 1F FF FE 00 '
> '07 FF F8 00 01 FF E0 00 00 7F 80 00 00 1F 00 00 '
> '00 03 00 00 00 01 80 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 '
> '00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 '
> '00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 E0 00 00 00 F8 00 '

> '00 01 FE 00 00 07 FF 80 00 1F FF E0 00 7F FF F8 '
> '01 FF FF FE 07 FF FF FF 9F FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 28 00 '
> '00 00 10 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 00 00 '
> '00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 '
> '00 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF 00 CB FE FF 00 99 FE '
> 'FF 00 65 FE FF 00 33 FE FF 00 00 FD FD 00 FE CB '
> 'FF 00 CB CB FF 00 99 CB FF 00 65 CB FF 00 33 CC '
> 'FF 00 00 CB FD 00 FE 99 FF 00 CB 99 FF 00 99 99 '
> 'FF 00 65 98 FF 00 33 98 FF 00 00 98 FD 00 FE 65 '
> 'FF 00 CB 65 FF 00 98 65 FF 00 65 65 FF 00 33 65 '
> 'FF 00 00 65 FD 00 FE 33 FF 00 CB 33 FF 00 98 33 '
> 'FF 00 65 33 FF 00 33 33 FF 00 00 32 FD 00 FD 00 '
> 'FD 00 CB 00 FD 00 98 00 FD 00 65 00 FD 00 32 00 '
> 'FD 00 00 00 FD 00 FF FF CB 00 CB FF CB 00 99 FF '
> 'CC 00 65 FF CB 00 33 FF CC 00 00 FD CB 00 FF CB '
> 'CB 00 CC CC CC 00 98 CB CB 00 66 CB CC 00 32 CB '
> 'CB 00 00 CB CC 00 FF 99 CB 00 CB 98 CB 00 98 98 '
> 'CB 00 66 98 CC 00 32 98 CB 00 00 99 CC 00 FF 65 '

> 'CB 00 CB 66 CC 00 98 66 CC 00 66 66 CC 00 32 65 '
> 'CB 00 00 65 CC 00 FF 33 CB 00 CB 32 CB 00 98 32 '
> 'CB 00 65 32 CB 00 32 32 CB 00 00 32 CC 00 FD 00 '
> 'CB 00 CB 00 CC 00 98 00 CC 00 65 00 CC 00 32 00 '
> 'CC 00 00 00 CC 00 FF FF 99 00 CB FF 99 00 99 FF '
> '99 00 65 FF 98 00 33 FF 99 00 00 FD 98 00 FF CC '
> '99 00 CB CB 98 00 98 CB 98 00 66 CC 99 00 32 CB '
> '98 00 00 CC 99 00 FF 99 99 00 CB 98 98 00 99 99 '
> '99 00 65 98 98 00 33 98 99 00 00 97 98 00 FF 65 '
> '98 00 CC 66 98 00 98 65 98 00 65 65 98 00 33 65 '
> '99 00 00 65 98 00 FF 33 98 00 CB 32 98 00 98 33 '
> '99 00 65 33 99 00 33 33 99 00 00 32 98 00 FD 00 '
> '98 00 CC 00 98 00 97 00 98 00 65 00 98 00 32 00 '
> '98 00 00 00 98 00 FF FF 65 00 CB FF 65 00 98 FF '
> '65 00 65 FF 65 00 33 FF 66 00 00 FD 65 00 FF CB '
> '65 00 CC CC 66 00 98 CC 66 00 66 CC 66 00 32 CB '
> '65 00 00 CC 66 00 FF 98 65 00 CC 99 66 00 98 98 '
> '65 00 65 98 65 00 33 99 66 00 00 98 65 00 FF 65 '
> '65 00 CC 66 66 00 98 65 65 00 66 66 66 00 32 65 '

> '65 00 00 65 66 00 FF 33 65 00 CB 32 65 00 99 33 '
> '65 00 65 32 65 00 32 32 65 00 00 32 66 00 FD 00 '
> '65 00 CC 00 65 00 98 00 65 00 65 00 66 00 32 00 '
> '66 00 00 00 66 00 FF FF 33 00 CC FF 33 00 98 FF '
> '33 00 66 FF 33 00 33 FF 33 00 00 FD 32 00 FF CC '
> '33 00 CB CB 32 00 98 CB 32 00 65 CB 32 00 32 CB '
> '32 00 00 CC 33 00 FF 99 33 00 CB 98 32 00 99 99 '
> '33 00 65 99 33 00 33 99 33 00 00 98 32 00 FF 66 '
> '33 00 CB 65 32 00 99 66 33 00 65 65 32 00 32 65 '
> '32 00 00 66 33 00 FF 33 33 00 CB 32 32 00 99 33 '
> '33 00 65 32 32 00 33 33 33 00 00 31 32 00 FD 00 '
> '32 00 CC 00 32 00 98 00 32 00 66 00 32 00 31 00 '
> '32 00 00 00 32 00 FD FD 00 00 CB FD 00 00 98 FD '
> '00 00 65 FD 00 00 32 FD 00 00 00 FD 00 00 FD CB '
> '00 00 CC CC 00 00 99 CC 00 00 65 CC 00 00 33 CC '
> '00 00 00 CC 00 00 FD 98 00 00 CC 99 00 00 98 98 '
> '00 00 65 98 00 00 32 98 00 00 00 98 00 00 FD 65 '
> '00 00 CC 66 00 00 98 65 00 00 66 66 00 00 32 66 '
> '00 00 00 66 00 00 FD 32 00 00 CC 33 00 00 98 32 '

> '00 00 66 33 00 00 32 32 00 00 00 32 00 00 FD 00 '
> '00 00 CC 00 00 00 98 00 00 00 66 00 00 00 32 00 '
> '00 00 00 00 EE 00 00 00 DC 00 00 00 BA 00 00 00 '
> 'AA 00 00 00 88 00 00 00 76 00 00 00 54 00 00 00 '
> '44 00 00 00 22 00 00 00 10 00 00 EE 00 00 00 DC '
> '00 00 00 BA 00 00 00 AA 00 00 00 88 00 00 00 76 '
> '00 00 00 54 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 22 00 00 00 10 '
> '00 00 EE 00 00 00 DC 00 00 00 BA 00 00 00 AA 00 '
> '00 00 88 00 00 00 76 00 00 00 54 00 00 00 44 00 '
> '00 00 22 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 EE EE EE 00 DD DD '
> 'DD 00 BB BB BB 00 AA AA AA 00 88 88 88 00 77 77 '
> '77 00 55 55 55 00 44 44 44 00 22 22 22 00 11 11 '
> '11 00 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FA FA '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FF FF FA FA '
> 'FA FA FF FF FF FF FA FA FA FA FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FA FA FA FA FF FF FF FA FF FF FF FA D8 FB FC FF '
> 'FF FF FA FA FA FA FF FF FF FA FB FA F9 FB FC FC '
> 'FC FF FF FF FA FF FF F9 FB FB FB FA F9 F9 FB FC '

> 'FC FC FC FF FF FF FF FB FB F8 F7 FA FA F9 F9 F9 '
> 'FB FB FC FC FC FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FA FA F9 '
> 'F9 F9 FB FC FC FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 FA '
> 'FA F9 F9 F9 FB FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 FA FA FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF F7 F7 F7 '
> 'F7 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF FC FF FF FF F0 3F FF FF C0 0F '
> 'FF FF 00 03 FF FF 80 00 FF FF 00 01 FF FF 00 00 '
> 'FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF 00 00 FF FF C0 00 '
> 'FF FF F0 03 FF FF FC 0F FF FF FF 3F FF FF FF FF '
> 'FF FF FF FF FF FF '
> END
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it is Dev-C++ alright. You can use the C solution, cstdio instead of iostream. you can then use printf() to do everything. Some cout messup.

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What do you mean? is it an installer or a zip file? If it is an installer, run it. if it is a zip file, unzip it, and copy the files to the correct location. If it is a Dev-C++ package, use Packman. I need more info on the package.

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I tried what you suggested, or at least I think I did. This how I did it:
===========================================================================
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Compiler --> Add the following command 
when calling compiler => -D__GNUWIN32__
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Compiler --> Add this commands to the 
linker command line => -lFOX-1.1
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> Binaries --> c:\cygwin\bin
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> Libraries --> c:\cygwin\lib
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> Includes --> 
c:\cygwin\include
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.2
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.3.1
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.3.1\backward
Tools --> Compiler Options --> Directories --> C++ Includes 
-->c:\cygwin\include\c++\3.3.1\i386-pc-cygwin
===========================================================================
But I still CAN'T link, I get this error message:
===========================================================================
Compiler: Default compiler
Building Makefile: "C:\Dev-Cpp\Makefile.win"
Executing  make clean
rm -f Templates/main.o Project1_private.res Project1.exe
g++.exe -D__DEBUG__ -c Templates/main.cpp -o Templates/main.o 
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/include"  -I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++"  
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.2"  -I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.3.1"  
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.3.1/backward"  
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.3.1/i686-pc-cygwin" 
-I"C:\DEV-CPP\\include\fox"  -D__GNUWIN32__ -g3
windres.exe -i Project1_private.rc -I rc -o Project1_private.res -O coff
Option -I is deprecated for setting the input format, please use -J instead.
g++.exe -D__DEBUG__ Templates/main.o Project1_private.res -o 
"Project1.exe" -L"C:/cygwin/lib" -lFOX-1.1  -mwindows -lfox -lwinspool 
-lwsock32 -lpng -ltiff -ljpeg -lz
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld: 
cannot find -lFOX-1.1
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [Project1.exe] Error 1
Execution terminated

===========================================================================

As I said in my original message, the version of FOX I am using is the 
one that came with the Fox.devpa; I am afraid that the problem might be 
due to incompatible versions of GCC.
Now, I have another copy of FOX, that I compiled installed '--prefix = 
c:\cygwin\usr'. This copy I am sure will not have any incompatibilities 
with the compiler; since I use GCC 3.3.1 to compile it. The only problem 
is that I don't know how to setup Dev-Cpp to seek for this version of FOX.
If someone would take me through the steps to set it up.. that would be 
VERY MUCH appreciated.

Thanks in advance

fro...@ko... wrote:

>
> Try linking against -lFOX-1.1
>
> -=Frode=-
>
>
>
>
>
>   Maya <Esc...@ne...>
> Tel:
> Sent by: fox...@li...
>
> 12.12.2003 15:08
> 12.12.2003 06:08 PST
>
>          
>         To:        Foxgui Users <fox...@li...>, 
> Dev - C++ <dev...@li...>
>         cc:        
>         Subject:        [Foxgui-users]Cannot find -lfox
>
>
>
>
> I am using FOX version =  FOX_MAJOR  1, FOX_MINOR  1, FOX_LEVEL  30.
> When compiling I get this message:
>
> -I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.2"  -I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.3.1"  
> -I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.3.1/backward"  
> -I"C:/cygwin/usr/include/c++/3.3.1/i686-pc-cygwin"
> -I"C:\DEV-CPP\\include\fox"
> windres.exe -i Project1_private.rc -I rc -o Project1_private.res -O coff
> Option -I is deprecated for setting the input format, please use -J 
> instead.
> g++.exe Templates/main.o Project1_private.res -o "Project1.exe"
> -L"C:/cygwin/lib" -L"C:/cygwin/usr/fox" -mwindows -lfox -lwinspool
> -lwsock32 -lpng -ltiff -ljpeg -lz
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-cygwin/3.3.1/../../../../i686-pc-cygwin/bin/ld:
> cannot find -lfox  
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make: *** [Project1.exe] Error 1
> Execution terminated
>
> I installed fox using Fox.devpak, what else should I d?
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* You cannot exercise your power to a point of humiliation.
                               - Jean Chretien

* The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the 
  power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty 
  innocent, and that's power. 
                                - Malcom X
* "Innocent until proven guilty", no... not in Canada!!